The test that made Luke Donald switch to the hollow body Mizuno Pro 245 irons 

I hit both 241 and 245 better then 243. So I play a combo 241/245

@@gachulonsito Does that not result in any gapping issues? I thought the 245s were much stronger lofted compared to the 241?

@@CocorumbaWinsmy 241 are strong the 245 is weak. Works quite well

Just went from the 225 to the 243s and love them! Very easy to hit and a little easier to work the ball if you need to.. the 225s seemed to produce straight pushes & pulls to me with a bad swing. Don't have this problem with the 243s.. best iron I've owned

Early version of the 245.

@@mizunogolf1906 Yes! Hollow body irons are a game saver 🏌🏽‍♂️🙏🏽 Thanks Mizuno 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

I got the hmbs when they came out. Found them a little punishing for me. Switched to the cobra forged tec. Maybe I'll go back to them when my ball striking improves

I've had the JPX 900S for about 5 years and you are right, it's hard to wear these out. But yes I want those 245s

Coming soon.

We’ve had a few - this one seems to appeal the most.

I've heard he went 4⁰ weak. I'd be surprised if he didn't get a sole grind to reduce some bounce.

Best to forget male / female when it comes to a modern fitting. Just head speed, tempo, attack angle, release point and other more useful swing data. The ball doesn’t care about gender.

Only good answer is to test both. 245 is a little more compact. Might just be which suits your eye.

Under control with 245s.

I play MP 60s and have hit everything Mizuno has to offer as well as pretty much everything else out there...I settled on the 245s and I am happy I did.

I have been playing the 221's since they came out a couple of years back but recently re-shafted my old MP4's which I always loved. I think they are a slightly better club. A tiny bit more powerful and the sole is better for me. My 221 9 Iron has also suffering from some chrome flaking/chipping off which is a shame. Makes no difference to performance but never had that happen on my MP4's or MP32's which I played for donkeys years way back when. Blade design is really to do with sole grind and minute changes in location of the muscle back. It is personal choice. The 245's though do look like an interesting club. Something I might be interested in in a few years when my speed drops off a bit.

You’re right - prices have moved on an uncomfortable amount. Afraid it’s a combo of a lot of other costs into us going up - materials, labour, shipping.

Our money worldwide is almost worthless. 2018 vs 2024 prices are just inflation (or shrinkage of currency value)

Eff jay bee

We shall inform the editor!

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@@g_nw thanks

Loft is irrelevant because the lower cg is a big factor. Just look at the outputs peak height/decent, distance, and spin.

241s should feel a little softer - due to the copper underlay.

@@mizunogolf1906 Oh ok, I need to try them. Thanks.

Why rush?

@@mizunogolf1906 why not take all week ..I mean, the clubs are what, $3k for a set?

​@@mizunogolf1906 it just looks ridiculous for one golf-club mfg to come out with at least 3 "new" clubs whose basic function is to replace the evil blade design with what looks like a blade but is actually a "game-improvement" design. But wait, again, it's not how they loo that matters :) it's how they play. Because standing in the clubhouse or on the teebox it's important that your irons look "Tour-level" but after you tee off you want to be on the green or at least on the fairway a chip-shot in front of the green. Not because your clubs are so great! but because you're such a great player. So your clubs can't look like "obviously you suck but we're going to do the best that we can to help you, without going hybrid or wood"" So what happens if the player is so bad that they can't even hit a game-improvement club well, but still wants their clubs to look like proper blades? Do they need to break 100 to even swing your clubs? Because of course you don't want the company name on irons that are played by bad players. . Well none of these three guys are bad players, not great players but still not bad, decent Tour pros or at least a Tourpro like player. So they should all play well even with blades. The few mis-hits they have with blades we'll never see because those will be edited-out of any video for mass release. so we never get to see how much they help good players...and we don't get to see how much they help bad players because you aren't going to put bad players in your ads. so what is the point of this? Just to keep saying Mizuno and 241, 243, 245 etc like a mantra. and gosh how long does that really take

​@@mizunogolf1906 what makes a lot more sense but still has obvious pitfalls: 1-get more low-handicap players playing GI equipment. 2-improve the blades just enough to get decent players to rave about how much better they play with them despite the fact that they look almost exactly likek their dads' blades And I can see that there is some of #2 in this ad. Kinda the point of 3 differrent types. But no matter what Mizuno does, first of all, someone has probably already tried it before and second they certainly can do whatever Mizuno does in the future. And for Chrissakes, who is really going to go out and buy new clubs? they might go out and buy used clubs. but how often does the average player change their irons...out of their own pocket? I've been playing for 30 years and I've bought two sets of irons. My current set cost me $100 on ebay 20 years ago. Would I like to have a 180 yd 7-iron? Sure. is it going to happen? Not any way that I know of. is it going to happen by upgrading to these clubs? Now THAT would make for an interesting ad. Bring in a bunch of players with 20 handicaps and show them the beneit, in real-world numbers, hard data, in switching from their current irons to these new Mizunos. Not that they can pick up 30 yards on a range. That they play significantly better shots on a course, more consistently. My normal 7 is about 135-145 yds. I put 30 yards on it, that's a big difference. I would also hope that I hit more consistently and score lower, eh? And if not, then what is the point of upgrading.

Because that head design needs those lofts. All the 7 irons peak and descend as 7 irons should. Some of us need more help than others - due to head speed, attack angle etc.

Obviously the 3 players are on staff with Mizuno - but we’re showing the differences between Mizuno models. No incentive to like one model over another.

So, that is what you picked up from this vid!? He will def smoke you´re ass on the course any day of the week.

Also used hickory shafts and feather balls?

@@Juddly05 No, just modern, state-of-the-art blades

@@algernonwolfwhistle6351 then your argument falls apart already.

@@Juddly05 In your mind maybe.