The Three Languages of Politics - Russ Roberts 

Excellent talk. Good ideas and theories presented!! I will have many reflections to do. Thanks for the opportunity

I never take notes. I did here. Thank you.

Great to hear Russ. For a long time I was a subscriber to his econ talk podcast

I haven’t read Kling’s book, but your description of his theory is nearly identical to one proposed by Wittgenstein - down to the word “viewpoint.” W asserted that it is impossible for religious believers and non-believers to effectively communicate (particularly about G_d) because their viewpoints - or lenses through which they see the world - are so different. He later allowed for a continuum whereby some understanding was possible. Also, I was surprised you didn’t discuss the desirability of remaining agnostic when not enough evidence has accrued in one direction or another, or when you simply don’t know enough about something. I think students (everyone) should be encouraged to say, “I don’t know enough about it,” or “Based on what I currently understand…” more often.

Extremely good lecture. So terrible to see the bored student faces........

I wouldnt expect of him quoting Thomas Swell.

There are times to listen. When people deny that the Nazis are marching, it's time to ring the alarm. The rest of the time, sure, conversation is nice. It's not just in ancient times that more was at stake. If you are a refugee crossing the border and being locked up, put in imminent danger, conversation seems rather bougie. As far as his economist friend, if you're a minimum wage worker on the verge of being kicked out of where you live, it's not conversation. There are too many "are you actually in imminent danger" vs. "I am in imminent danger" stories regarding Israel and Gazans for there to be consistent ongoing conversations. PS Economics should be about tailoring, yes, not ideology. Much of it is pragmatic and applied, so to make the case that "the minimum wage is wrong" immediately pricks my ears up to dogmatism, to ideology. Regardless as to whether in some circumstance it's valid. PS There is another way of sorting conservative, liberal, libertarian emotional drives, and that would be the Maccabees and survival at your moral core, vs. Hillel, Tikkun Olam, and healing and repairing the world at your moral core. Core. And thinking about those behavioral drives. Anyway, for your consideration. Gur has been great to listen to because his behavioral analysis is deep. PPS I'm 62, stood next to Bela Abzug in 1974 in my movement chultzah outside the UN protesting when Arafat spoke. Unlike the assumption made above, where perhaps more Jews were disgusted and felt threatened by October 7th, there were just as many if not more who were disgusted by the brutality, the barbarism (whether defensible in argument or not) in terms of numbers of innocent, innocent Palestinians so far killed, which in no way can be entirely chalked up to Palestinian actions. So no, I don't think Russ Roberts hears both equally. Speaking of hearing others, note that there wasn't much conversation after October 7th. And there is a lot now, just not among those who are fighting for survival in Gaza. I know an incredible number of layers to the onion. I would recommend more study in human behavior, human mass behavior, situational behavior. And hear as many narratives as you can. These lectures, while great, have a slight echo chamber bias to them, at least what I've seen so far. I haven't seen any Palestinian narratives and analysis FROM Palestinians. It matters.

@1:03:00 "Some of the people on the other side are bad people." should instead be "Some on the other side _and on my side_ are bad people." Tribalism makes this difficult to see.

"we don't talk to each other any more" is true for lots of relatives living in Ukraine and Russia. It's sad how easily people stick to a tribe and become extreme adherents. Admitting mistakes raises credibility, why attempts to hide do the opposite. There is a credibility crisis between palestinians and jews.

Last comment on what happened on the 7th i read today was in a yt video saying Hamas didn't attack civilians, and they gave statistics of civilian vis army deaths to try to prove that

Judaism uses multiple lenses at the same time. Shalom is about harmonizing all aspects and truths. God doesn’t make mistake. Palestinians, Israel, the war, everything is serving a role. Dialectics.