An Extraordinary Introduction to the Birth of Israel and the Arab-Israeli Conflict 

Haviv is made a mistake. The first leader to bring the Israelis back to independence in Israel was Prophet Moses AS, he was the first Zionist leader, some 3300 years ago. The second in importance was Ezra the scribe 538 BC.

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1897 Zionist Congress - read - Palestine ID as the land they would occupy -127 years ago.

So Russian, Polish, German Jews migrated to Palestine And then they started oppressing native Palestinians there.

@Readinganddifference Thanks for the tip!

@Readinganddifference It is not I/P it is I/A or more accurately I/J. P was artificially invented in July 1964, for reversing the Goliath vs David image, part of the cold war.

@Readinganddifference Arabs, Jews.

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Nothing justifies stealing other people's land, nothing and nothing justifies blowing children up, starving people, apartheid or keep on expelling people off their land. You should have visited Gaza or the West Bank. Stop genocide Free Palestine

You are a jew.

Do Jews believe in Jesus?

127 years ago and 44 years before the holocaust - 1897 The Zionist Congress.

Genuine question - if the Israeli Jews are mostly Arab? Why do they speak of the “Arab” palestenians with so much distain. Why did Miko peled and other Israelis say that they grow up called palestenians “the Arabs of Israel” 🤔 it’s just interesting right, if ur Arab yourself why are you isolating a group amongst ur population as Arab Israelis…. Could it be this guy is talking nonsense and the truth is Israelis are not Arab at all and KNOW it. They’re all white Europeans

@@tjc4085 um, I guess id suggest you visit Israel. Or, less commitment, even watch an episode of Fauda. There's a hell of a lot of brown Jews. I mean this isn't an unknowable thing right? But if you just think the Israeli puppet masters are all white and kinda Bennetton ad-ed their way into this fantasy, I'd say that's, well, pretty bigoted. Which I'm sure isn't what you were going for, but sometimes we're the baddies.

​@@tjc4085 Eastern European Supremacy. Ashkenazi Jews get a pass for being incredibly racist because they weaponize the holocaust.

​@@tjc4085900,000 jews were expelled from the surrounding Arab nations from the 1940's through to the early 50s. That's why there are barely any jews in the surrounding Arab nations. Some of these jews came from African nations as well such as Ethiopia and are blacks. Moreover, the jews in Europe were never considered as indigenous to Europe. That's why there was so many discriminatory laws, pogroms, expulsions and finally the holocaust. So the jews in Europe decided it was time to return to their homeland that they were expelled from by the Romans. Perhaps you need to get off tik tok sound bites of nonsense and read history books.

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The Christian attitude that jews not the roman are the cause of Jesus's death. Minorities everywhere have frequently been scape coated. Jews are given unpopular jobs and are unwelcome wherever they live for millenia whether Europe or the middle east. Pogroms vary in severity and number depending on where but the Islamic messianic vision includes the murder of all jews. Jews don't accept the majority religious attitudes. Basically they are hated for being Jews

Then you need to read my comments where I explain what happened in my country Romania while the Jewry was there at the beginning of the century. There are a lot of historians, articles, books, witnesses, documents in archives who talk about what Jews were actually doing.

@@Catalina-zu8xx can you link something? I don't see any other comment by you.

I do not know but I have heard others say it is because they crucified Jesus. Jesus is the son of God for billions of Christians. They broke their promise with God to prepare the world for Jesus’ coming so they are no longer the chosen people even though they still believe they are. Or perhaps jealously because they are successful business people. Maybe both combined.

they are very crafty at writing propaganda.

"If you don't follow the law, you'll get into a fight."

Exactly, Haviv is wrong.. The first leader to bring the Israelis back to independence in Israel was Prophet Moses AS, he was the first Zionist leader, some 3300 years ago. The second (in importance) was Ezra the scribe 538 BC.

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And yet Einstein was a Zionist, and raised money for the state of Israel.😊

Ha! Tell it to the Arabs!

@@shainazion4073 Any proof of that???? Or is it again Israeli propaganda!

And then when the Moslems decide they don't want the Jews around anymore? And did Einstein really believe that the Moslems would share power with the Jews? Do you believe the Moslems would have? Just curious - would you cite the source please for the Einstein quote?

«Einstein’s support of the Zionist movement and his interest in the Hebrew University were lifelong. He quarreled with Weizmann more than once; he was highly critical of the Hebrew University and, in particular, of its first president; he deplored the shortcomings of Zionist policy toward the Arabs; but he never abandoned his belief in the central principles of Zionism. If young people (or others) today, whether Jews or gentiles, who, like the young Einstein, abhor nationalism and sectarianism and seek social justice and believe in universal human values-if such people wish to know why he, a child of assimilated Bavarian Jews, supported the return of the Jews to Palestine, Zionism, and the Jewish state, not uncritically nor without the anguish which any decent and sensitive man cannot but feel about acts done in the name of his people which seem to him wrong or unwise, but, nevertheless steadily, to the end of his life-if they wish to understand this, then they should read his writings on the subject. With his customary lucidity and gift for penetrating to the central core of any issue, whether in science or in life, Einstein said what had to be said with simplicity and truth. Let me remind you of some of the things he said and did, and in particular of the path which led toward them.… www.nybooks.com/articles/1979/11/08/einstein-and-israel/

no justification to engage in genocide if Palestinian children & women. It is not a war.

@@lizbethartemis4886thank you! You speak the truth.

Page 7 & 8 of the report mentions it.

127 years ago 1897Zionist Congress -44years before ho lo cáustica - they ID Palestine for invasion.

I am so sorry.

It has to be stressed for people who do not live in the middle East, because most people don't know that Arab muslims kill other Arab muslims.

There are lots of so called facts and then beliefs. Mostly I'm just saddened that they want oppression and slaughter over peace for all. Convincing self that all palestians Wang to wipe israel off the map. River to the sea means lots of things depending of what u believe. I don't personally like the chant cos it's to much a hot potatoe

The Naqba means "catastrophe" in Arabic. This word had nothing to do with the Arabs that fled the land because of the war they started. The Naqba (catastrophe) was that 5 Arab armies could not win against a ragtag group of Holocaust survivors all speaking different languages, with 1 gun for every three men. The Naqba (catastrophe) was that the Jews bought malarial swamps and rocky deserts and made these lands bloom, when the Arabs could not. What is called the Nakba today, didn't happen the way they pretend. *The Institute for Palestine Studies,* an Arab organization based in Beirut stated, *68% of Arabs left their villages without ever seeing a Jewish man with a gun or a soldier* Search, *_"How we really became refugees, 13 Palestinians tell their personal stories"_* Mamoud Abbas and 12 others from all over Israel, tell the truth about why and how they left the villages and houses and it wasn't because of the Jews!

The Indigenous people of the land are the Jews. The Jews are the descendants of the Israelites and Hebrews. All the diaspora Jewish communities still show 50% of ancient Canaanite DNA even after 2500 years of diaspora. The Jews speak the Only Canaanite language still in Use today. The Jews worship the Canaanite God YHWH and el. The Palestinians do not have an indigenous language, Arabic is not indigenous to Canaan. The Palestinians are 98% Muslim, the Islamic religion is not indigenous to Israel/Canaan. The God of the Palestinians is Allah, the Pagan Moon God of Arabia, not of Canaan.

Firstly, "nakba" actually originally referred to the Arab failure to destroy the state of Israel in 1947. You need to read the Arabic press of the time to understand this. Secondly, some 700,000 Jews were ethnically cleansed from Turkey (Smyrna was a flourishing Jewish community!), Morocco, Iraq, Syria, Iran.. and came to Israel. These Jews, it has been calculated, left behind land and property some four times the size of the newly created state of Israel. Thirdly, atrocities were committed by both sides. Fourthly, The Arab Palestinians got the lion's share at Partition - Greater Palestine (that is, Jordan, Lebanon, Southern Syria). Read the words of Zuheir Mohsen who admits this : "The Palestinian people does not exist … there is no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese", though Palestinian identity would be emphasised for political reasons. In a March 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw he stated that "between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese there are no differences. We are all part of one people, the Arab nation [...] Just for political reasons we carefully underwrite our Palestinian identity. Because it is of national interest for the Arabs to advocate the existence of Palestinians to balance Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons...

You clearly learn from comic books.

@@khubza8999he is not a good historian?

@@charlesedwards5333 If I remember your name correctly I asked you on another video where you had seen Hativ speak about this, managed to find it myself, thanks for the tip, was well worth it.

63BC Roman’s invaded Palestine - it is their ancestral land.

To that point, I would dare anyone who believes that Palestinians suffered 74 years of compassion from the Zionist state of Israel, to convert to Islam and go live in Gaza or Hebron for two weeks in a Palestinian house. Only in this way you will get to know this compassion first hand. Bless ❤

@@Catalina-zu8xx The old community of Jews that used to live in Gaza perished in Islamist riots of 1929, concurrent with dozens of other communities, the massacre in Hebron was documented, you can see the photos of that ISIS style massacre in archives of the NYT. Photos like the gut churning photos of the massacre of Oct. 7 only in black and white. *In 1929 the massacres were committed mostly by mobs. 1929 is 19 years before the reinstitution of Israel, 38 years before Israel got into Gaza strip, 37 years before the process of appropriating the title Palestinians by Arabs has even started.

@@Catalina-zu8xx now thanks I prefer visiting the Jewish people in their ancient Jewish city of Hevron.

Apparently that is too much to ask for. Appalling this blind slogan shouting going on.

Both sides: Arabs against Jews Muslims against Jews 21 Arab countries against Israel 56 Muslim countries against Israel Islam vs. Judaism Shia vs. Sunni Iran vs. Turkey vs. KSA vs. Egypt USSR/Russia vs. USA East vs. West Partial list of drivers of this conflict

But lets also not forget to mention Soros, Gates, Rothschild, Rochefeller, Epstein, Woody Allen, Scovel in the UK, that Hollywood pimp called Swine...or something similar, the warmonger in the US who died recently....and had dedicated his life to destroy other countries and to change regimes. Etc...

right and duty.

Only if they will not betray and disobey Him by becoming hateful killer settlers in Israel.😅

The difference between the two is that Israel has >25% citizens that are not Jews while in Jordan, in Gaza and under the Palestinian authority there are no Jews and by law selling a property to a jew carries a death sentence. Every person in the world wants to live in peace, however, for some tribal societies peace is what one's tribe achieves by eliminating rival tribes.

It’s my understanding that quite a few Palestinians have dual passports and use them. Maybe you can ask the Palestinians who you know about that to find out more. And your attempt at a gotcha wrapped in multiple versions of the same uneducated question, lacks the nuanced understanding of Jewish/middle eastern history to be able to cut into this topic any sharper than a butter knife. And it’s not respectful.

@@OffbeatsMusic ​​Thank you for replying, I’m assuming you’re educated and knowledgeable and that’s the best you can answer?!?! I feel you’re just twisting my questions were for honorable speakers who claimed to have dual passport, and for your reference I would ask the same if the claim was from a Palestinian. If you don't know the answer, I have no appetite to have further conversation with you. Peace.

Greater Palestine is Jordan, Lebanon and Southern Syria. So the Palestinians already have their country. Israel itself is intrinsically the heartland of the Jewish people. There is archeological evidence to prove this, dating thousands of years ago. The Jews reluctantly accepted the portion given to them, the Arab Palestinians did not, wanting all or nothing, and as a result, they have nothing.

@@TMF78The reply to your question was in the interview itself. About 60 plus percent of the Jewish population of Israel are Middle Eastern Jews, who had to flee their original countries. They became refugees. Their lands and possessions were taken. None of them have passports of Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Syria and so on. NONE. And no one ever champions their “right of return”, for some weird reason. It’s only the special Palestinian flowers that deserve such special right I guess? Like they deserve the right to be the only hereditary refugees in the world, too? Because the Jewish refugees of same time period didn’t get to pass the refugee status to their children for some very weird reason - only Palestinians get that right. Very very interesting, wouldn’t you say?

And, if you repeatedly start wars against Israel and lose, sorry, but you don't get to have a dual passport...

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There was no 700,000 Arabs kicked out by anyone, the proof from Arabs show. *The Institute of Palestine Studies,* an Arab organization based in Beirut said, *68% of Arabs left their villages without seeing a Jewish man with a gun or a soldier.* Search, *_"How we really became refugees, 13 Palestinians tell their personal stories"_* Mamoud Abbas and 12 others tell the truth about how and why the Arabs fled their houses and villages, and it wasn't because of the Jews.

And the Hadids who claim to be Palestinians - but they are Americans !!

The majority of Israelis are descendants of refugees who fled to Israel from Arab countries, you can right away understand they can not get passports of countries that expelled their ancestors.

And other peoples don't?

@@1234singer most Americans don’t.

Well , Maby Europeans do as well as ex refugees​@@Hakeem357

@@1234singer The majority of Israelis are descendants of refugees who fled to Israel from Arab countries, you can right away understand they can not get passports of countries that expelled their ancestors and define them as citizens of an enemy country.

@@Hakeem357 I know many North Africans that migrated to Canada with dual citizenship. Why you so worried about the Jewish people having dual citizenship? In any case, we love and appreciate our Canadian Jewish communities.

Read Avi Shlaim's memoir. The Farhud was not all from Muslim Iraqis...

THAT IS NOT TRUE. JEWS IN IRAQ WERE NOT WILLING TO MOVE TO ISRAEL FOR THEY WERE CONTENT BUT LITERALLY THE ZIONIST FORCED THEM. JEWS WERE ALWAYS SAFE IN THE MUSLIM WORLD.

@@sibelshinaishin5170 is your ignorance of the Farhud ‘chosen’ or part of your DNA?

@@sibelshinaishin5170 Jews were persecuted, tortured, massacred etc in Farhud….Grand Mufti, Hitler’s ally who promoted the ‘final solution’ of Jews in the Middle East, incited horrific hate and violence against the Jewish people in the Middle East and Judea and Samaria (renamed by the greco-roman ‘Palestina’ by roman invaders).

@@sibelshinaishin5170 Jews were second class dhimmis in muslim states. And I can give you an extremely long list of persecutions, humiliations, exploitation, pogroms, massacres etc against the Jewish people in the Middle East, North Africa. Not all of us non-Jews are stupid enough not to notice too much Tequila in your Taquiya

It was posed during the middle of a huge wave of terrorist bus bombings. Israel was kind of busy at the time.

He says explicitly (around 1h5m) that Algeria is the model for *Hamas*.

that isnot what he said...

And what of the ills of racism?

Which country has no racism. Which one? Israel is not perfect but its high time the Jewish people had their own country and they have had for thousands of years

@@makhorubhiyo4053why?

To me Israel 's Basic Law is based on ethnocracy, not true democracy.

​@@PaulGrinderQueer69because they do a damn better job of it than you would do over there

And people are more ignorant than ever, unfortunately

@@lalalalalalalala709 Educated by 15 sec videos on social media.

Teach the children a bunch of BS? These guys are basically saying most of Israeli Jews are Arab and not European settlers 😂 do you know how funny that is. Just take a peak at Israelis.

@peterhixon371 Sorry to say but your version of current events is quite warped & inaccurate.

@@beverlystraus9300 in which way? I am always prepared to be corrected as long as there is reason. If you feel that the Polish never expelled Jewish people, I was only referring to the information that was given within this post. If you do not feel that Israel is attempting to annihilate the people of Gaza, it begs an awful lot of questions. Why are the press being targeted, why are schools and hospitals being targeted, is the Israeli state acting with an eye to gaining control of the gas fields off of the Gaza shore,? It all appears to add up to the same conclusion and the majority of the world appears to think in similar vein

@@beverlystraus9300 No its not

Yes it is. The jews in Poland were not terrorizing the Polish

It is completely inaccurate. There is a huge difference. The Jewish population in Poland murdered during the holocaust was 3 million. That means there were probably more than 3 million Polish Jews before the Holocaust. In 2023, there is a core Jewish population of 4,500. Using these numbers, approximately 99% of Polish Jews were annihilated. Now, that’s what I call a genocide! Let’s look at Gaza’s population. In 1950, it was 63,444. In 2023, 778,187. And despite this war, that population will grow. Also, 20% of Israel’s population is Arab. Israel is not doing such a good job at genocide. If anything, a better comparison to what Poland did to the Jews would be the neighboring Muslim nations who refuse to accept Gazans or any Palestinian, although the refugee status of Palestinians is their own fault as their leadership has refused to accept the MANY offers for a state of their own through the years.

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Obviously, Israel created Hamas, we all know Islamists do not have free will, incapable of creating terror groups and are easy to manipulate, especially by Jews they hate so much.

I can confirm that the Romanian state had the same politics regarding Jews at the beginning of the century, despite The Nazi regime of Germany and the Horty regime of Hungary.