The time Gary Neville tried to convince Steven Gerrard to sign for Man Utd 👀 

Warra PL title for Gerrard.

I've never heard gerrard of being overrated

@@saynomoredontask6077 literally, think everyone knows he was great, maybe hes talking about people who think hes worse than lampard or scholes

Who says Stevie was overrated? Maybe Chelsea fans during the whole Lampard vs Gerrard fiasco, but they were not genuine critiques. To say he was immense for Liverpool would be an understatement... I say this as a United fan who despises Liverpool. Nothing but respect for Gerrard.

Lots of people thought Gerrard wasn't a top player and you watched him week by week you'd kno' why

Oul davey Jones likes to stir the pot

Davey creates a debate atmosphere as a neutral mediator, when theyre on their own it's a conversation so hostilities of a debate aren't needed. All for ratings at the end of the day, I do like this format all the same

They'll end up married.

@@broken1394 they act like they've been married for 20 years

He’s there to play Devil’s advocate between Gary and Jamie. The same with Simon Jordan, Jim Whyte and whomever is opposite Simon.

The number of bangers Gerrard scored in every derby as well as other matches. Real BMT. The MVP of midfielders but the fact is Scholes has all the PL titles.

@@CA213FAN he didn't score in EVERY Derby

@@CA213FAN the difference. Scholes play smart. Gerard play Hard.

Gerrard was an overrated midfield player whose best position was as an attacking half.

We need to stop using the word narrative

Hahaha, water under the "Bridge"

@@jamesmichaels4979 Haha.

Lol! That’s terry ble.

Pack it in lads 😂😂😂

Lol

Haha only to Newcastle fans. For everyone else hes remembered for his unplayable Blackburn days.

@@moz7777 depends on your age I think, I’m only 20 years old and my memory of shearer is Newcastle

@@josephhoskinson6758 How? You were 4 when he retired 😂😂

@@choke9270 I didn’t say I watched him that’s just what comes to mind when I think of Shearer

Shearer I think is better than Henry

He's not a loyal player he went to LA galaxy

@@HarryKanee lol

He was out the door to Chelsea till Liverpool gangsters threatened him

La galaxy doesnt exist

Totti ~ “he would captain my dream world XI”

both things can be true at the same time... you can be world class and overrated. for example player A might be world class but some ppl clal him the greatest ever... that would make him both wc and overrated Gerrard was a wc player but also a tier below xavi iniesta Scholes Zidane etc

@@vkdeen7570 Well either or, that's what I meant. Yeah but some people don't even put gerrard in the world class bracket, and that's wrong. He was

People talk about him being a loyal player he isn't though he went to la galaxy

@@Ajs_1988 I mean I'm a utd fan and I'm putting Gerrard firmly in the wc bracket.

@@vkdeen7570 nah scholes and Gerrard should be in same tier below the others u mentioned

Legend says he is still Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeein --- coz he is yet to join ... lol ....

The scouse gangsters death threats to his family is the only thing that stopped that transfer.nothing to do with lfc

@@bartman01021988 you must be one of these people that are into conspiracy theories and belive that the earth is flat!.

He “backed out” because his family got death threats 🤣

He got scared of death threats from fans that's what changed his mind not his so called love for liverpool fact

@@michaelmyers4053 you call speculations and heresay as 'fact'? You need to go back and learn what fact is.

Could have won so much more at Chelsea fc (just saying)

Or are blinded by bias..

Agree, but he had that Chelsea fiasco in 2005 where there were serious rumours he was trying to leave. Hats off to him though, one of the best to ever do it!

Loool he was threatened to stay at liverpool by gangsters he had his bags packed to go Chelsea

@@MargotDobbie Exactly

@@williamfranzen8548 the whole fiasco happened cos Rafa/The club were delaying the contract talks. Gerrard mentioned in the book he wasn't sure what was happening

@@itisdarren19 I remember hearing on Carra's pod that Gerrard takes responsibility for his flirtations with Chelsea, but he did it in part because he wanted Liverpool to know what he had. Gerrard definitely played a role in that

@@anthonypantzillar8862 stewards probably hated luis figo just as much

Make a good stew lol

This is why Madrid will always own Barcelona. Taking a player who was candidate for winning Ballon D'or that year(he actually did win after that transfer) at the peak of his career from your most hated enemy, nobody could ever do. Perez 👏

Cell phones too when he visited the Barca stadium.

That reaction from thr barca faithful was next level stuff.

His first touch at important moments could let him down a bit.

@@jrobs1133 He said he was MOST complete. Every player has something they need to work on

Never Scholes was miles better then

@@elfsborgsupporter274 scholes never carried united on his back that was Roy Keane.. there's a reason why Gerrard was picked over scholes for the centre and scholes couldn't tackle.. scholes was seriously talented but he was nowhere near a monster that Gerrard was who carried liverpool on his back for 10 years..scholes only truly was lauded when he left

@@elfsborgsupporter274 and earth is flat yeah.

How many of the class of 92 do you think would of stuck around united in there prime at united now

He was so overrated Scholes 12 prem titles Gerrard 0

@@frankdoherty5687 I do think most of the class of 92 where loyal, Beckham would've got off but I think the rest would've stayed, but I get your point, he stuck to his guns, fair play to him

@@elfsborgsupporter274 Scholes should try winning the league when you have players like Dudek, Flanagan, Traore, Cisse in the first 11

RU-vid highlights videos do not lie. Gerrard was the MVP boss in England But Scholes got all the trophies. fact.

I do agree but also Liverpool partially hampered his career as from 17 years old he got played far to much and after he left LFC he had an injury prone career.

Carragher actually did a podcast with Owen as a guest on there and spoke quite openly about this, it's fascinating the agendas behind certain moves, give it a listen if you ever get the chance.

@@james-yn4zz why don’t u just give us the gist of what he said ?

@@paulgal simply said he wouldve loved to have gone back to liverpool instead of man utd it just wasnt on the table and at that point no other offer was even close to playing for man utd. he didnt have the legs to play every game so being a super sub poacher for one of the biggest clubs in the world was absolutely the most amazing opportunity and right fit. he said if liverpool offered anything close to that he wouldve taken it.

I was mad at Owen at the time but years later I've got over it and more fondly remember his time at Liverpool when he was a Balon d'Or level player, he was nothing but a bit part player at United the whole episode was pretty forgettable.

Liverpool were very bad then

@@elfsborgsupporter274 it's a shame he hasn't won the premier League

Yes good prem team what to sign players to join then 😂. We signed almost every good English baller like Ashley young. Is Ashley young good?

Overrated doesn't mean bad 🤦‍♂️

I don't know where you are going with that. Players can be overrated and still be required for a specific club as per their needs. So basically clubs can sign overrated players even if they are not world class to fulfill their clubs need.

*their

Indeed.

Michael wasn't really prolific at United. He came from relegated Newcastle team and knew that he was there to keep the bench warm. Owen's best years were at Liverpool. I can't hate him for going to United when Liverpool wanted nothing to do with him at the time.

Language.

We Man Utd fans don't hate him though. We simply didn't care. He was a good player at united and no one could take this away from him. He helped us win matches and trophies. Some people only hated him cause he said something bad about Fergie. People forgot that quickly and moved on with life.

True, that was Fergie’s fault. United fans seems to think Fergie was infallible.

I read something ages ago now that Tevez, sometime in 2007 or 8, said he intended to retire with 4 or 5 years. Allegedly Fergie didn't think paying £26m for a player looking to retire before long was worth it. He was a great player for us, no doubt

@@charlesstilesmysterydinersfn Correct

* wouldn't have left United. What is it with people not being able to use words properly!?!

😂😂😂😂😂

It’s happened again🤣

Even the fans have embraced the Bottling mentality 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Says it all tbh

SAD UJ

He wouldnt have been able to expand his brand but maybe be regarded as an even better football if he just stayed there

Tbf he left at 29. He's a United player, not a Madrid player.

Then we wouldn't have gotten CR7...

@@ryanmitchell1265 *28 But the point still stands, he didn’t leave as a 21 year old.

lol dont lie

Yeah sure he's gonna cry himself to sleep with his premier league winners medal

Well he's on the United stand now so I'm guessing he watches man united

We Man utd fans still love Paul Ince.

I can't believe you love Ince more than ferguson. Shocking

Once a Man United player always a Man United player. Same with the fans. Ince is regularly on the United Stand & Michael Owen is always at the United stadium/studio talking about Man U like the fan we all know he is 👏 listen to his pundit commentary

I IDOLISED ince as a child. My most embarrassing memory is 8 year old me handing him my bobble hat outside the players exit, and him trying to sign it with a biro “I don’t want you to sign it Paul, just to touch it. I love you!” I’m not sure he’s loved at United, I certainly don’t love him anymore.

He chose to remain a big fish in a little pond. We will never know how important Stevie G would have been in a league winning team. He was in a few liverpool teams good enough to win the league,but never did. Take away the olympiakos goal, the milan goal, and the west ham goal (but why would we, you might fairy ask) and hes not even in the gerrard/lampard/scholes debate. He was a fantastic ,well rounded player. No more. For a few seasons he was world class, lampard and scholes spent their whole careers being world class. Loyal to liverpool? I call it a damning lack of ambition. He was guaranteed game time at liverpool because of his cult of personality, he was too afraid to play for a team full of stars.

@@helenkennedy6493 and whats wrong staying with the same team all your career? Unfortunately in football these days you don't see loyalty. He was faithful for Liverpool, when your faithful to a club or anyone or anything you go through the ups and downs with them

@@joewhite2203 Yh all you see is Jack Grealish going for money and lying to Aston Villa that he wants to stay forever and others. I always liked loyalty and stayed within your club thin and thin but sometimes when you want to win trophy or anything you move to a bigger club not just for money but to win trophies abs make your career satisfying.

Take away those goals and what? You have goals against Top top clubs in important games. Really retarded narrative have against gerrard. Fact is it you ask fans all over the country they’d have gerrard in every big game. Lampard over the course of a full season and only united fans are mentioning scholes

he had a clue

Cos things have turned around so well since ole was sacked? Hang on…

@@youhalgh Carrick was very good for United sit and hold. He would walk into the team now. My pick will all ways be Keane Scholes. All you have is name calling.

First person who came to mind.

Mourinho, Fergie, the all write negative stuff. But in reality the chekbook was ready for Gerrard.

PSG treatment on Cavani and thiago silva aswell, they didnt offer them a contract after 8 years being in the club, silva even said they didnt offer him and cavani even a single euro to stay at psg

I agree. Football is full of conditional loyalty. A player could be at a club from academy and barely get a shot. Many players get shifted without a bat of an eye whilst people expect players to be loyal. It's all conditional. As long as a move makes sense then there shouldn't be a problem.

They didn’t say its right but its just the reality. Whether it was the right thing for the player to do or not basically becomes irrelevant because peoples perceptions are unfortunately more important in football than the actual reality

How's that going? Lol

There could be loads of reasons for why he never left. It’s not just loyalty to Liverpool.

But he didn’t go and he never won league throughout his career. People will forget loyalty in years to come. Only what you win will remain

@@seyibey8126 opposite

So true. he could havewon many trophies and been captain at any of his suitor clubs.

Gerrard didn’t win the league due to a lack of talent personally, so it’s always a slightly hollow taunt. Who would have wanted carragher though?

Look what people have said about De Gea at times, look what we did to Ole after only 3 months of being crap. At the start of the year we were going win the league, corners turned, back on track! 3 rubbish (really rubbish though) months, and he’s shown the door.

@@paulshuttleworth6261 Yup exactly my thought. I think some fans forget just how fickle and disrespectful they and the club can be to their (sometimes former) star players, yet it's wrong if a player decides to ply his trade for another club because they're supposed to be loyal, even if the club as a whole is significantly underperforming and not showing any real ambition for more. Don't get me wrong, Liverpool was able to reach back-to-back Champions League finals, one of which they won, that's no small feat, but to go 20 plus years without a domestic title is embarrassing for a club of that pedigree. It's great to have the desire to bring trophies to the team you supported as a kid, but for Steven to have to play his ass off year after year trying to drag Liverpool towards being a champion in the Prem, only to come up short time and time again, I'm sorry, but he had every right to seriously entertain other options.

Ronaldo is and always will be a legend at utd. As for suarez. . .

So was Gerrard...

@@CallMobDuty why is this absolute myth still alive?

@@CallMobDuty watch "What I Wore" from BT Sport

So many clips of him wearing Everton shirts. Maybe he just doesn’t care as much as most people and it’s all an act? I’m not sure I could bring myself to wear a Liverpool shirt or a City shirt, maybe if the kids lives depended on it, but I’d have a good think first.

@@tobilandsfried8083 have a look, loads of clips since he retired of him in an Everton shirt. Fair play if he doesn’t care, I know I do though.

Gerrard got massively underrated after his retirement due to him not having won the league but during his playing days majority of players and managers picked him over Scholes and Lampard.

That would be sickening 🤮

He'll go back one day. Not this summer one after

Yeah and the fans will take to him again i know it but it will never be the same.

maybe. but grealish moving to city gave aston villa a hundred million pounds. that is valuable too in a way. countinho leaving liverpool allowed them to get alison and vvd and that helped them win champions league and the premier league. lukaku leaving gave inter a 100 mill when they desperately needed it after lost revenue because of covid 19. grealish, if he had stayed his whole career would have been a club legend. at city he probably won't be because there are kdb, sterling, silva, foden, gundogan and mahrez that all do what grealish does. in my opinion his function at city is like a whetting stone. city bringing in top players helps prevent the current ones from becoming complacent. city is a top club and the mental strength and discipline required is different than being at a mid table club where the expectations are different. the high price tag hanging over grealish won't help either. but rodri took a season to bed in, maybe this will just take time. i hope he comes good, but we shall see.

Trent Alexander Arnold might hit that status? Maybe Rashford or Foden?

@@mitchaelhollingsworth1698 good point be intresting to see

He came to Old Trafford, with Fenerbahce and the Utd fans sang his name as he left the pitch , cheered when he scored his goal, so I think utd fans like him.

@@DeanoFrank nah ofc they like him bc he won the league for them. But he’s not a United legend and he’s not even top 10 strikers in United history.