This is a more in-depth look at Rush. It is a story about a man whose hubris led to the death of the trusting passengers, including a trusting teenager. A sad story, indeed.
well the submersible industry obviously needs an overhaul in the way it conducts its operations. There's no point in warning him , the whole company should have been scrutinized and not allowed to offer its services to paying customers until everything is above board. In a carnival, a ride gets stopped immediately and inspected by engineers if there's any issues with the ride. It wont be allowed to continue operating until it gets the thumbs up from engineers. It wont be up to the discretion of parks management whether or not the ride continues, yet this scenario is exactly what happened here. No point in making one man a scapegoat when so many who could have taken action did nothing. Even the companies boast that the Titan was worked on with the collaboration of Nasa and Boeing on its website was a lie, yet neither company took action to have this removed, Only after the tragedy did they distance themselves from these claims made by the company. HALLO. Shame on them for keeping mum all that time. Any lay person reading that would have believed it including the passengers who died.
@@MrArdytube Well the submersible industry has has an impeccable safety record. They been going down to the depths of the Titanic and even deeper since the middle of last century with no major incidence. Maybe complacency had crept in? Still i think if one is going to offer paying customers a service there would be some regulatory authority? What makes the submersible industry any different to any other? The erroneous claims they made on their website , should have been enough for people to have raised concerns as to the companies overall operations. I could never figure out how the company lied so blatantly and no1 raised an eyelid. Very bewildering. It took a tragedy for all the experts to come out of the woodwork . So u may well be right. there was no body to legally regulate the company but certainly on their website there was. Otherwise i can offer my services as a brain surgeon and everything will be fine if we went by the submersible industry standards.
@@westnblu As it turns out… there are place that you CAN offer your services as a brain surgeon. Stockton Rush did his “brain surgery” in the middle of the ocean where regulations are nonexistent. You could offer your surgery expertise out there… or mexico too as well for that natter
I am waiting to see two key data sets: The official transcripts of the ship to sub comms and the analysis of the onboard data and telemetry (if there is any). Given Rush's corner cutting ways, I can only hope there is data still available from the recovered electronics and hardware systems... This accident was preventable and a warning that a safety culture is non-negotiable with deep diving, just as it is in my own industry of spaceflight.
He reminds my of an old business partner of mine, arrogant, a bully and a con man. However this B/S lowlife is a murderer in my eyes as well because he knew what was wrong and for the all mighty dollar didn't care about safety.
He honestly thought he was right though. It's manslaughter at worst. If he didn't have his head so far up his own arse this wouldn't have happened, like the lady said - hubris.
Just so we're clear, what stockton rush actually told david pogue was, "...safety... just is... pure waste." Stockton had told another interviewer that the submersible was "extremely safe"... During the interview OUTSIDE of the vessel, pogue told stockton that some components seemed "macguyvered", and stockton said, "I wouldn't say that" ( or words to that effect). When pogue & stockton were INSIDE of the vessel, pogue, again, mentioned some of the vessel components being "macguyvered & jerry-rigged", and stockton said, "yeah... pretty much". That begs the question, "so which one is it, Rush?" Stockton neither listened to himself nor seasoned, experienced experts. My assessment is that stockton wanted to be the underwater elon musk, richard branson or jeff bezos. Stockton's vessel was an oversized bath toy. It's a wonder that thing didn't implode earlier.
The difference between millionaires and billionaires! And Rush was no billionaire. I'm fairly sure he was having money problems which was why he was so desperate for customers - sorry, "mission specialists" and to do a couple of dives even though the weather was unsuitable this season , he couldn't afford to write off the season. Plus he was a smug git who could never be wrong.
I'm sure the 16 year old lad who was terrified of going was an expert in his field! They tried to spin it like a nasa mission to space with their own mission patches and fake titles like mission specialist and then they get bolted into an elongated dustbin... I wonder if they felt a bit silly once they crawled into that dustbin and sat there, cross legged and cramped together as the 'pilot' got out his knock off PlayStation controller and proceeded to kill them all?
When contact was lost… there were only a few possibilities…. Best case was the sub was self surfacing because of its emergency systems. If the sub was stuck at depth…. There was no way to rescue it… no technology to rescue the passengers from the sub…. And no technology to raise the sub from depth. Ultimately the final possibility was catastrophic implosion
@@grindelston5968 Not sure how they got the remains up. My hunch is the implosion pulverized the bodies into meat and bone mush… maybe some remained inside remaining fabric… which might have been retrieved
*Titan Sub in a nut shell* Rich men throwing their money at a DIY Home Depot Sub that was glued together with Peanut butter, so they could *Brag* About how rich they are and how special they are on social media after.
I agree, I don’t feel like I’m being lectured like other channels and she’s not repeating herself, saying the same thing multiple times to pad out her video 😀I’m impressed
While I agree the rich passengers should be left alone, Stockton Rush is fair game. He was a narcissistic, arrogant, entitled, lying p.o.s. that convinced them to go. EVERYONE told him this would happen, but he thought he was better and smarter than everyone else. I agree with Karl Stanley, Rush killed those people.
The Mother of Suleman, who I would think knows much more than his aunt would, said that she was supposed to go with her husband on Titan but Suleman wanted to go so bad that she gave up her seat to him. He was also excited about setting a record by solving the Rubik's Cube while they were by the Titanic. So his aunt saying he was scared is simply not true, he wanted very much to go and was very excited to do so. :)
Of course the mother is going to say that. What sort of mother is going to admit to letting their son be forced into a situation that made him uncomfortable, let alone one that led to his death? That entire interview was so off. Most mothers would be too busy grieving the death of their young son. For some reason, this one felt like she had to come out and give an extended, chummy interview mere hours after the announcement, explaining how he absolutely, 100% wanted to go so badly he elbowed her out of the way, and there was nothing she could do to stop him, promise. There was no sense of guilt, no sense of contrition, no sense of grief. It reeked of cynicism. It would be like Kate McCann giving a chummy interview to the BBC the evening after Madeleine disappeared, in which she explained that her three year old daughter had actually insisted she and Gerry go let their hair down, and not to worry, because Madeleine had in fact been terribly excited at the prospect of abduction.
@@theoclutterbuck You do have a point but the trip was supposed to be for her and her husbands anniversary. So I would ask why would she force her anniversary gift on her son? Maybe she was to scared and shoved it on him but I still wonder. I still tend to believe the Mother over the Aunt but in the end I guess we never really will know. :)
It still raises the question of informed consent- did he (or his father) really understand the risks he was running? Was he told everything he should have been, by Rush and the company?
@@theoclutterbuck Suleman did want to go. He was actually very excited to go to in hoped of setting a world record. This story about him being terrified is a false story spread by his clout chasing, estranged aunt that the family had no contact with for years.
@@alisonwilson9749 I agree, I have a feeling Rush was hiding a lot more than people realize yet.But I will admit on the consent form it did say numerous times that you could die in the process but as with you I have a feeling Rush made it sound a lot more safer than it really was. :)
Im guessing there was a time the Titan stopped making cracking sounds so then Stockton got the feeling it is cool and can handle it now... Then there was that last dive the sounds came back .. Gives me chills thinking of it 😢
One of the best accounts I've seen of this horrible tragedy and the circumstances leading up to it. Stockton Rush seems to have been permanently high on risk-taking Kool-Aid and unbridled hubris. An elderly and very wise clergyman of 60+ years' parish experience (i.e. of dealing with a wide cross-section of humanity) and whom I used to visit in his care home said to me more than once that the most dangerous people on the planet are the ones who KNOW they are right. He was thinking of dictators and religious fundamentalists but exactly the same seems to apply to Stockton Rush.
I don't want to make light of this tragedy, but there's a certain poetic justice in watching a company that scoffed at safety measures and filled a vessel with crazy rich people getting into trouble while trying to go gawk at the remains of a company that scoffed at safety measures and filled a vessel with crazy rich people and got into trouble.
Please keep in mind that there was a 19 year old young man on that submersible, who, I'm sure, had great plans for his future. He didnt deserve to lose his life on that deathtrap and I wonder if his Father knew how dangerous that submersible actually was. My sympathies go out to the families of these people - may they rest in peace.
I didn't realize that RU-vid channels were still milking this subject without even being able to give any new (valid/confirmed) information. Regardless, the Ocean Gate incident seems to have forever turned the Titanic into the RMS Clickbait.
Stockton Rush was in fact a dangerous engineer. His attitude(s) were dangerous and it was obvious that he did not care... thinking certification was a joke.
If you Google carbon fibre it warms that it isn't good in compression and that is the force that would be acting on the titan subs hull. It would be mega compressed in all directions. So what would be the sense of using it especially in a tube shaped design.
I really can’t believe they where worth that much money, And went down 2 plus miles deep. In a sub that only cost a lil over a million dollars. Wt did they feel before they died. I really think they where beating the fk out of Stockon Rush…
Lol no. This wasn't a research mission. All of those rich people wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. They weren't human. They sold their humanity to become rich people.
I hope they go after OceanGate and sue them into oblivion. I hope they sue his family and all the people involved in charge of the safety testing as well. These people are directly responsible for killing these folks. Not that I care a whit about some billionaire but there are some things that are just unforgivable. This was one of them.
Stockton Rush seemed like a combination of Elizabeth Holmes who only received a prison sentence and David Miscavige (Scientology) has not yet gone to prison.
She did it again, when she mentions a text that was sent out by one of the passengers on June 17th the night before the dive. Dive. She says it was June 19th when they were dead. Doesn't any of these people have proofreaders?
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If this same money had been spent on remote technology using robotics and artificial intelligence we would be so much better off. Such usable technology could have provided much better pictures of the Titanic without endangering human life. There is no point in sending people into hostile environments without a sound reason.
Thanks for pointing out all the people that were saying it was good and they were glad it happened because they were billionaires. That's a grisly awful attitude brought on by jealousy. May God rest their souls, even though Stockton Rush has such a punchable smug self satisfied look on his face. Good documentary, even though there wasn't much new info in it, I still enjoyed it, very well made and I'm surprised how low your subscribers count is.
What a terribly written script of this video. Why are you lying about the kid not wanting to go? He was slated to set a Guinness record - doing a Rubik's Cube the deepest ever done by a human. He wanted to go just as bad as everyone else. This video has been downvoted and channel blocked for being purposely disingenuous. Get your act together and be honest or this channel will go nowhere.
