The Top 5 Commander Precons of ALL TIME 

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And for the guys who made the video that think I really wanna watch it. Maybe this could have been a short? I didn’t even make it past the ads

I'd say out of Ixalan Pirates is the strongest tbh, but I don't know if it would make the list either.

Everyone I talk to have the same conclusion that the merfolk is the weakest and needs the most work

@@famousstranger8468 Really? I’ve both watched and played games and the merfolk deck is consistently the one doing the most and being the archenemy. Comments on videos where it was played (including Mostly Casual Commander and The Spike Feeders) concur with that.

@jackmcnally8706 fair enough, but that pirate deck never seems to have a bad game. I don't watch spike feeders that much tbh

@@famousstranger8468 While I was not watching the pirate deck that closely in all honesty, it seemed to me to be the worst of the four by a good margin by decklist. The commander is too expensive for what she does and the alternate commander has a fun strategy but the deck is not properly build for it. It seems very all over the place to me.

Beezy hates Aesi. Like irrationally so

I don't remember hating her T_T

I love the idea of Aesi, my upgraded version (which I've had to purposely make weaker that it should be to be fairer at my LGS) is great, super consistent in what it does, fun silly things to be done in every game and it has never once felt unimpactful. In practice however it makes me feel guilty due to the time issue that results from having to repeatedly shuffle then draw. I feel like it bores the table too often because I could easily end up shuffling half a dozen times or more in a turn for multiple turns in a row, then when people do get their turn and try to cast a big hitter or their commander or a board wipe, they often just get countered by the heavy complement of counterspells I run and it ends up with me having 5+ min turns vs "untap, upkeep, draw, fail to get a spell off, end turn" that opponents get reasonably often. Fun deck to play, hateful to play against which makes it one of my least played decks at that power level. The amount of shuffling is just a huge problem for table satisfaction, not really what you want to be doing in casual games, even high power ones.

@@NitpickingNerds Dudes right Aesi is way better than most these n I'm not talking out my butt I have done a precon tournament using 16 pre-cons and Aesi came out on top n easily clapped necrons in tournament. Test these things not just say things based off deck list cuz y'all missed hard on this for example Tyranid out of box plays better then all other Warhammer decks when play tested 😁 😉

@@malkie2682what exactly are the fun silly things you mention? What you described is exactly what I would expect when someone sits down with aesi….

That deck out of the box with 0 changes is really good for a precon, honestly better than most of the ones on this list in my view

I just opened a box of Commander Masters and upgraded Kamiz. They absolutely deserved the jeweled lotus to get out even quicker. That deck was pretty slept on and is a definite fave.

Thanks for joining the last stream! We had fun editing the deck 😁

damn i played with the eminence knights and i hated it haha

I love my Necrons but it was heavily upgraded. Not sure how well it would perform out of the box.

I'm thinking scrapping mine as I can't get it to function even out of the box

​@@famousstranger8468I've made some slight upgrades, but just had a lot of fun with all the gruul choices (especially the recent adventure and enchantments).

@@patriciosoler3861 I might have to rebuild the precon from the original list and try again. My plan otherwise is to make etali primal conquerer the commander

@@famousstranger8468I’ve been editing mine to include treasure generation and discover mechanics from LCI. I found that the deck is mana intensive because there are not a lot of spells you can cast for free OR let you cast other spells for free so adding treasure helps save mana for when I need it and discover is better cascade. Brass’s Tunnel Grinder is a great include because Faldorn feeds the descend mechanic so you get the bore counters quick and then it flips into a land that lets you discover when you cast spells with it.

I would think 2017 was the best year overall for precons. You had Edgar, and the Ur Dragon come out the same year. The Feline Ferocity deck isn't no joke either. If Breed Lethality (2016) had come out that year instead of the Wizard deck. Maybe the breed lethality deck isn't best overall without upgrades, but it does have the best commander of all time in it.

Lathril is a great shell, but it lacks some important elves, reanimation, ways to protect them (no golgari charm, no Heroic Intervention). And considering that it also lacks card draw, since it doesn't have protection, deck stops after a boardwipe.

My roommate also bought that precon. She has already upgraded it a lot but the skeleton was nice. She still doesn’t have a lot of reanimation but instead her deck is focused on being aggro, creating plenty of tokens and using Lathril’s tap ability. Plus, some of the elves have very useful abilities and/or are able to grow really big really fast. Tyvar also lets her untap Lathril. I’m glad her elf army can be tamed with a boardwipe. ”xD

An honorable mention? It deserves the trophy, that deck is ridiculously good. I’ve played all the precobs mentioned and Urza is definitely the best.

Agree. Surprised it is not on the list.

Abso-fricken-lutely! It might take the cake for me, honestly.

This video is about the Justice League, you just listed off the Legion of Doom

Kalemne?! Please explain your reasoning

​@@JonReid01I think they were joking. They had me going until they mentioned Kalemne. I had that deck and I thought it was butts.

I was always told Atraxa was the best

​​@@TiltedSquarefor sure, my first pre-con was the 2014 ob nixilis one and boy is that thing a slow burn, easy to upgrade though after you cut 5 lands, lol

Yeah that deck is nuts, kinda hate playing against it to be honest.

I completely agree@@blemski

Pretty good guesses!

My pick too. My brother used it in our pod with real decks and straight up clobbered us.

Yeah that deck and the knight pre-con from March of the machine both have very similar play patterns and are not only strong but they can bounce back from removal and board wipes so freaking well.

It's not even the best precon of the LOTR set. Food and Fellowship is the strongest LOTR deck out of the box.

@richjames998 doubt. I've seen lots of gameplay of the four of them against each other and riders is really overwhelming. Maybe if you're talking duel comm. But riders really runs away with the game with all its anthems and tokens

I would say it's more the commander that is busted, but the 99 aren't as great.

I have this one... it's amazing!

I have an upgraded version and it’s so strong

@@StandYourGroundTV I have an upgraded version as well, It has mana crypt, mana vault, rhystyc study, FoW, Fierce Guardianship...

Is atraxa in a preconstructed deck?

​@@ExeEspe-by2ctatraxa was a precon

@@gasupplisson huh, did not know that

Oh and happy Thanksgiving kids!

Try having Eisenhorn as your Commander, he has a few ways you can play with his abilities, namely making a bunch of artifact tokens that can be used for pay offs or be a spellslinging deck with his upkeep ability. He's an Inquisitor that works with Xeno tech, so it would make sense with him using Necrons in battle against Doctors, Elves, Merfolks, Demons and so on.

The upside of running mono black is usually speed, the deck has a lot of inexpensive combo lines you can execute and just win on the spot early in the game. You also have a lot of mill options, graveyard recursion and the best tutors in your arsenal, so at a high power level the deck shouldn't struggle all that much. If you feel like you get destroyed by Vandalblasts and such, you could try running Blood Artist or Syr Konrad -type effects to punish your opponents for removing your stuff. That, or you could just sacrifice them yourself for some value with the multitude of sac outlets and payoffs at your disposal. Mass reanimation might also suit your fancy. If all else fails and the artifact hate you're facing is a permanent like Collector Ouphe, you could try running more removal to help you deal with the threats.

Run a black counter spell. Withering Boon

​@@RvBnerd618that's a cool concept that I've never thought about, thanks for the idea.

​@@Lenvyathantrue, and yeah, generally I do dominate the board early and gain a good advantage, but even when I'm well ahead a Bane of Progress just stomps me. My power level is around 7 I suppose and generally in our group we don't tend to focus on combos and shy away from the OP tutors but at this point I think your right, it's literally the only thing I can do and my friend just tutors Bane of Progress and reanimates it anyway, and just like that I go from winning to losing. It's kind of frustrating because it dosn't even target and it eats all my enchantments and mana rocks aswell, so there's not much I can do. About Syr Conrad and Blood artist...again, I think your right, I was avoiding those staples exactly because I wanted to keep the identity of the deck and didn't want to play the same cards everyone's playing but Syr Conrad and Marionette Master are too good to pass, I suppose I could create some custom art proxys to make them fit with the Necron theme. Anyway, thank you a lot for the tips, I could also post a list of the deck if you don't mind having a look.

The white pip is in brackets which indicates it's reminder text and doesn't count as a white pip.

@@blibbertibsThanks!

I played it in a pod With a scarab god, a ishin and a jetmir. Even With this very strong commanders i still Was considered The treath With My Doctor and rose

maybe finish a video b4 you comment on it XD they said it was the only mono colored release GROUP @ 3:40. Which is true

I think the deck isnt too great, the commander is just insane value so it feels like a solid deck.

Not at all. It need way too much time to do anything. And even then it's mostly random simic good stuff cards without much synergy. I never why it get recommanded so often.

@@Furchtfliege I don't think so. I think the cards and the synergies arent that good but the commander is so broken that it carries the deck to the top ten by itself

Name a better combination!

Except for TP,Edgar's deck was very mid

I didn't really count those as precons for this episode

Masters enchantress gets so freaking crazy with any kind of populate