You know.. It's honestly shocks me that people overlook that Henry and his family live in a fictional version of Ashton-under-Lyne in Greater Manchester, a place that's unfortunately not known for being well off, with so many issues of younger kids being neglected growing up, then turning into monsters in their teenage years. With how Henry's parents do treat him, that could really be a reality in a future where Henry actually grows into a teen. It's a reality I've seen growing up living in a not so great neighborhood myself too.
@@Thecontactchannel.HORRID HENRY THEORY CONFIRMED (also i really like the idea, he could want Kris' soul so he would be loved by everyone. He could use the Blue soul, since idk, it fits him. Also what speech quirk could he have?)
horrid henry is not a show about a horrible boy and his perfect brother. its a show about two boys being raised in an abusive household, the older lashing out because he knows his parents are cruel but he just doesn't know how cruel, the younger having had given into his parents abuse and is now trying his best to meet their impossibly high expectations that no one his age could fufill.
As a child I thought that Henry's parents constantly yelling at him was justified due to all his shenanigans. Now that I'm older I can see all the red flags as clear as day. I watched a LOT of Horrid Henry when I was little and I feel like the only reason I don't see the abuse as normal is because I was hardly ever yelled at as a kid.
i was yelled at for absolutely no reason but being in my dad's way and when i saw little tid bits of this show i always wondered "why do i understand you, and why are you're parents being mean to you for no reason, your just playing" wow.. But i say tid bits because it's not like i watched enough to remember i just remember feeling very odd about his parents and how they treated him
I think it's the people making the media amping up certain character behaviors for comedic effect without realising that they're making those characters look like they belong in a mental institution (like the writer of diary of a wimpy kid accidently writing greg as a borderline sociopath.)
It's interesting, because I think in the books, Henry was just the worst; more horrid than he was in the show. It's like they swapped it around, probably so kids can like the main character more to keep watching.
@kitty3999 I think the creators logic was if they make Henry as awful as he is in the books, no parent will let their kid watch it incase it 'influences' their kid to be mad. So they tone Henry down, but then that just makes his parents awful instead because nothing about them really changed? They aren't dealing with an impossible child anymore, they're neglecting their child's needs.
That's what I was going to say as I didn't have a healthy household either and was in a similar situation except me and my siblings were decent kids who just misbehaved every now and then.
@@WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI think all of this is a stretch. We’re overreacting. Henry is still a troublesome kid. And his father ain’t that bad. But it would make sense that him being an enabler is from the abusive mom or his own (or the mums) parents being douchebags.
Henry: Does literally nothing. Henry's parents: "You're a disgrace to this family. You'll never amount to anything and we're ashamed to call you our son."
@@Norf.F.C.Zoomeri kinda agree. While i know and agree that a kid his age will be mischievous, he should also be corrected for it time to time. Not saying be as horrible as the parents literally are, but teachings and lessons here and there are definitely required.
I like the inclusion of Peter here, Peter basically suffers the same has Henry, but in a different manner, He constantly has his parents' pressure on his back, the reason he's "happy" when he behaves or plays music is because due to mum and dad's, he's given a false sense of enjoyment, basically fake pleasure, Peter doesn't spray Henry solely because he knows he won't get in trouble, but rather it's because Peter finally snapped, couldn't take it anymore, and decided to experience true enjoyment for the first time in possibly a long time, at this point it honestly seems like Mum and Dad treat peter more as a pet, rather than their own son.
@@mozzasleeping As adults, Henry will most likely experience severe depression and anxiety, making sure everything he does, doesn't get tampered whatsoever, Peter on the other hand is somewhat up for debate, if he doesn't realize the truth, he'll be exploited, defenseless, will find himself in the wrong places and won't understand how the world works. If he DOES learn the truth and understand the reality of his life, he might develop severe PTSD and anxiety as well, and might mentally force himself to be perfect for everyone, even tho his parents may not even be in his life anymore.
@RacoonySkaloonyOfficial not to mention, perfectionist children often end up having a lot of feelings of anxiety, inadequacy, and imposter syndrome. Peter will 100% have those as an adult
@RacoonySkaloonyOfficial Peters still going to suffer from profound insecurity and neurotic behaviour either way, I think he'd probably develop some form of OCD later in childhood
Nevermind I just rewatched, he gave no shits and just said in the end (unless the clip is cut cause I could only find it on RU-vid) but damn I thought he said something
@@jasper.quartz1325 How tf did he not know or care, I think he thought Henry would be fine since he saw Henry survive before and views Henry as his protector sometimes.
How is it Henry's Fault the Traffic Jam was bad!? He wasn't even in the car for crying out loud! Horrid Henry's Parents and Peter annoy me so much! It's their fault for leaving Henry behind at their own house!
My parents blamed me for their flight being delayed by 4 hours. I WASN'T with them nor had they planned me to be. This incident occurred last month and I've been moved out for almost a year...smh
i didn't watch this show as a kid because i could never catch it airing but seeing this now and having anger issues real bad, i actually get mad like this kid is a real boy, idk, does he ever get any help? some friends a really good teacher? this just seems like Abuse: the cartoon 😅
One of the shocking things to me is that I GENUINELY thought being locked in your room by yourself was normal because of horrid Henry, the worst things is that it happened to me for real
Alright. Being grounded is completely normal (at least in some households). But you know what isn't? Turning your kid's room into a prison cell by stripping all of his belongings!!!
This guy reminds me a bit of the whole walking on eggshells sort of parent: you can get berated to tears for a minuscule mistake, yet you can get coddled over a grave error. It makes you anxious to be around them throughout your childhood and well into your adulthood, not to mention all the guilt that comes with it; every time you try to bring up something bad they’ve done, their good deeds are used against you like a weapon. “Dad, I didn’t like it when you yelled at me for locking myself in the bathroom…” “Oh, I guess that makes me the worst parent in the world, doesn’t it?! I never hear you talk about the time I built you a brand new go cart - why do you only talk about the things I’ve done wrong?!” It teaches kids how to suppress themselves as a whole, especially when it’s done at as young of an age as Henry is. Apologies for my rambling - I have a lot I could say about this cartoon. 💀
"Don't push it, Henry." "oKay!" I'll be honest I've never watched the show or read the books or seen the movie, but a LOT of what I've seen- he isn't being "horrid", he's just being a kid, one that doesn't have proper guidance from his parents at that and is constantly compared to his brother who is seemingly perfect in his parents eyes.
I think that’s the point tho I related to horrid Henry growing up and it comforted me to see that family dynamics like mine existed elsewhere and gave me some comfort about a life I couldn’t control eventually I realised I wasn’t at fault I just wasn’t taught things such as behaviours and coping mechanisms like most other kids as my parents were so hyper focused on my sister and just assumed I’d copy and learn from her which is how I learned to walk and talk from my sister and cause of this my parents never made any effort to educate me they assumed I knew better and would pick stuff up on my own and I challenged myself to learn and re wire my brain from a young age
Henry wasn't a good kid, he wasn't truly awful either but people are far to relaxed on parenting these days and it's no surprise there's an epidemic of main character syndrome and self importance these days.
One thing I notice here is, Henry is actually a pretty decent older brother to Peter. He’s still calling him a “worm” but hes looking out for him on the logic that HE gets to treat Peter like that. (even though Henry doesn’t go anywhere near as bad as using him as a chair.)
He even tried to teach his brother to defend himself against Bill, when that didn't work, he came up with a different approach. Kid's smart enough to know when to leg it.
Me too. They know they're in the wrong they're just using the authority to put themselves above you, that's delusional and powertripping but they're not above you if anything you, hope you're like alright
Silly Simon’s definitely the better parent since there were times where he actually did things with Henry like building him a Go-Kart when his old one broke and the time when they went fishing together. Also I’m not defending him, just pointing out that he’s the better parent towards Henry
I also haven't seen people mention them bonding over gross class zero because it is something them both love and in the episode with the good day chart simon tries to take henry to the cinema to watch a gross class zero movie. Also there was the episode where simon was up late to do work and instead of telling henry and later peter to go back to bed just asks what henry is doing still up and then lets henry and peter help him and was ok with them staying up whilst their mum tells them off and to go to bed.
6:33 I like to think that moody Margaret is horrified at henry dissapearing since she only wants him around to have a sort of arch nemesis, where if he just dissapears she would have a boring life
@@Zombot_1000 doesn't that not apply to family why would you be like ha, stupid my child, i actually think you're annoying secretly thinks to self..oh but if only he knew! i actually love him because he's my son! im just confused can you guys 😂 elaborate
YES, please cover Golden Child Syndrome. Not enough people knows about topics like Golden Child Syndrome, Invisible Children, or even Scapegoat Children. Shit we seen Simon use Henry as a scapegoat FOR THE DAMN TRAFFIC JAM OUTSIDE OF THE 8 YEAR OLD'S CONTROL!!!
Great arnt Greta is convinced that henery is a girl so buys him girls clothes and toys a 8 year old girl would want, and she thinks Peter is a teenage boy, so she buys him presents a teenage boy would want including some things that are useful to the parents, so they don't do anything about it, thats antoter from of abuse.
I don't think that counts as abuse. Greta is senile and has no idea what is actually going on. She even fed Henry and Peter cat food not having idea what she's feeding to them. She's few of these characters who cares about Henry as well as Peter. I would blame parents for getting someone like her as a babysitter.
@@bendordoy4815 sadly you can't really correct that kind of thing when it gets that far and its better to "go along" with it, like asking for the receipt as you "see a hole" or something or say that you think the food might have "gone bad"
This video made me realize how truly abusive my parents were. I use to think "I wasn't abused cause I wasn't hit" but the trauma and ptsd are still there
That was some ironic justice with that survey response. Bad parents thought good kids act like robots and got sent to parenting courses because they were incredibly unrealistic and abusive.
Do people forget abusers don't abuse all the time???? They can abuse one second or this case episode and be non abusive the next, such as; my dad and mom are abusive but I still had some good moments with them, my parents were manipulative tho so that was just how they kept me keep going back to them
@@sumsumplays yes but the amount those two parents(from the show) treat Henry I don't think they were ready for a kid and took it out on him even when he did nothing wrong, also hi
My keyworker at a kids' home I lived in was abusive, but we had good times as well Context: I went into a children's home when I was 14 (not for the reason you may think), and my parents and I thought I was gonna get help. We were wrong. Staff were abusive af.
Being an older sibling I think most can agree that Henry was a relatable character when being blamed for everything/seeing favouritism to the younger sibling
Not gonna lie, Simon and Francesca should see Henry not wanting to go to a fancy restaurant. This and Polly's wedding should've been when Henry was left with a sitter.
Fr i hated the wedding episode they forced henry to be ring bearer altho they knew he might cause trouble and cant sit still but they did it anyway and got suprised when he caused trouble
It’s by design. Kids are meant to find Henry relatable. Always being blamed, getting in trouble, not being “perfect” like peter. The creators make him take the blame for things he didn’t do so they don’t encourage actual bad behaviour.
I hope Francesca is the mom name because if the dad is called simon and the creator is called Francesca simon I just think that’s just damn right clever
They are like the Heffley family, if Susan and Frank expected Manny to be perfect, and they neglected Rodrick and Greg to the point that they blamed them for all of their problems.
@@AnimatedBlastWhat I don't get is why he is such a simp over Henry's mum who isn't even drawn remotely attractive(she has wispy hair and very nerd like appearance,I was shocked when I saw the film version!)look wise instead is a abusive monster of a mother,ruining the lives of two children! Especially confusing why he's with such an awful person when you consider that Simon was Henry in his childhood and him and Henry have common interests such as gross class zero.
The book and the show are so different. Like, in the book the parents are seen to just be both trying to teach Henry how to behave but in a really unorthodox way that they don't realise is causing his behaviour. Essentially emotionally neglecting him. There are similar moments in the book where he gets told off in public and someone looks at the parents funny, so obviously still bad. But in the show they just are dialed up to 1000 and full on berate and bully their kid😭
The topic of Henry's dad sort of dwindled near the end, but it's still entertaining to look at a children's show I regularly watched a few years ago and dissect it to see what it truly showed. Good vid :)
@@SnipeSnap for some reason I'm feeling that peter is not Simon's kid and that the "mom" is a cheater and I feel like she uses the threat that he won't see the kids if he disobeys her, he's nice to him when the mom is not around
@@SnipeSnap my theory is that Simon wants to be a good dad but the wife forces him to be abusive because he's nice to Henry when the wife isn't around so like and then Peter just is being controlled by the wife
My mom actually got rid of all my belongings once. What's worse is she boxed them up while i was at school and then made me carry the boxes out when I got home. One of the worst punishments I've literally ever received tbh.
I know you wouldnt have deserved that no matter what, but... I'm genuinely curious what you did that she felt that was appropriate. God, I'm so sorry, man.
So I grew up with golden child syndrome. My mom treated me as the second coming of Jesus and my brother like he'd be lucky to have a normal life. And I'm still recovering from that mind set. It's put me in very unhealthy and dangerous situations because I was told my life would be easy as long as I pleased her. The truth is I now hardly ever contact any of my family, my mom's health is in the trash and life is harder than ever for them. Same for me, but that's my responsibility on my own. Due to my past, I heavily feel for the treatment of BOTH Henry and Peter. They are brothers and should be raised to love eachother, not compare each other. There are no winners and losers in life. It's up to you to live the life you want to live. We all want and deserve happiness.
Broooo the position Henry and his Dad were in at the start is crazy, the way it cut to his Dad's face after that and the faces he pulled were the cherry on top I swear 🤣🤣
1:00 Really Henry's Dad!? If Henry needed to use the public toilet for 5 minutes.... Why scream at him and unfairly punish him over him needing to use a public toilet on the way for 5 minutes!? Do you want Henry to pee himself!? NO! Also 94 and a half years old is way too long for a child too handle his punishment and even worse, you wouldn't be alive at all! Seriously parents, Quit over reacting over your child needing to use a public bathroom during a long car journey! Also, DON'T YOU DARE SAY NO TO YOUR CHILD NEEDING BATHROOM BREAKS! THAT IS VERY BAD PARENTING! 😡
I always hated watching that cartoon as a kid. I didn't understand why my cousin enjoyed it so much, and why British kids in general enjoy it. As a kid, I preferred Ben 10 and other American cartoons.
Becuase people weren't soft and wet when this was about, everything wasn't over analysed about the "generational trauma" it might cuase or whatever nonsense they say now. A TV show was a show for entertainment and every kid I knew loved this show and none of them are now monsters becuase of it.
Wow, I did not expect a video on the father of a British cartoon boy literally named Silly Simon to be so eye-opening to my own childhood trauma and treatment from my parents
When I was younger I KNEW that his parents behavior was abusive, I would spend hours in front of the tv analyzing the show when I was 7, I would try and find so many details to prove my theories to my mom and now that im older it makes me so happy to see people doing the same
We had a kid in school who was a perfect Peter and he was a social outcast literally no one wanted to be friends with him it was really sad thinking about it. But how you be friends with someone who will rat on you without any hesitation.
So glad I found your channel SnipeSnap, great video. Horrid Henry is my childhood and hearing you talk in depth about Henry’s parents is amazing in 2024!
You spoke of a Horrid Henry reboot with Francesca Simon involved. That’s something I’ve been thinking for sometime actually being interested in acting and writing. If I was doing the show, it would be a live action tv series as a coming of age drama like Sex Education. Henry would have more of his book counterpart but still have the same likability and sympathy in the cartoon. A plot twist I had in mind would be that Peter is adopted, an idea set by the mum since she didn’t want her second child to be like Henry, much to the shock and dismay by the dad. She would also often fake pregnancies to further push the adoption idea towards him, showing the manipulation and dark side of his personality. This would be kept from Peter for years until it’s finally discovered through an unfortunate circumstance. Knowing his life and family has essentially been a lie, Peter goes on a full mental breakdown and Henry, seeing how he is just a much of a victim of the their parents, as he is and the emotional journey they went throughout the series, comforts him and decides to do something about their family, especially the mum. The dad, finally seeing the facade, decides to stand up for his sons and tries to atone for what he’s done. I know it’s massive change in tone and a more mature take on the series, but a story like this is full of great dramatic potential. It obviously needs more fine tuning which is why I would have Francesca’s contribution too. What do you think? Would an adaptation like this work? You can disagree if you want but it’s just an idea that’s been buzzing in my creative mind for sometime since the series has resurfaced. Your vids on the series are great too and I look forward to more of them, especially towards the mum which you said has potential to be a ten part series.
I have a theory maybe they had Peter to replace henry? Or a another theory I think that the mom wants the dad simon to be abusive to him be she abuses simon too? And forces him in some episodes simon is super nice to henry but he keeps changing Another theory:maybe henry was an unexpected baby and they had Peter to forget about him or henry is just a abuse toy to the mom?? Anyways i hope you see this i love your content 😊
@@middleeasternforhire8985 Bruh no that's so messed up! The reason Peter has golden locks is because his mum has it and it can even be seen his dad lineage(his brother Francis is a blond too) It's common for children to inherite looks from both sides of the family! It is common in Britain for one sibling to be a blond and another redhead!
See, the interesting thing about horrid Henry, is the fact that when I used to watch it on tv, my mum would always say that Henry has some kind of neurodivergence, such as autism and ADHD, it makes sense as well, since the food issues around vegetables and stuff are very similar to autistic traits. (I’m actually autistic and have ADHD so I kinda know my stuff lol)
you know its bad when the only reason they noticed he was gone was when he didn't respond to getting yelled at for traffic. Like how tf can you call yourself just "Bad" parents yet pull that shit off?
If they reboot Horrid Henry, they should do an arc or episode where he talks to a teacher or school counselor about what REALLY goes on at home and the parents are investigated. Henry and Peter are removed and put into a loving foster home and eventually adopted. True they could go the angle where they parents go to therapy and parenting classes and eventually get them back, but that usually only works if the parents aren't aware what they are doing is abusive. Simon and Francesca seem to be well aware they are abusive. Abusers who are fully aware of their actions rarely change. Or perhaps Simon could divorce Francesca (she seems to be the parent who instigates things the most) and take custody of Henry and Peter.
Never mind what he's called. People are head over heels for tall and remotely good looking people. Nowadays even that isn't a requirement with hormonal 13 year old girls going mad over kpop .
The fact that the mother demanded Henry listen to his dad when all his dad was doing was reprimanding him for something he didn't do, it's disgusting. It also hits on a deep level. Anyone else feel that entrapment and miserable stress of the "Being forced to listen to and pay attention to verbal abuse, and read your parent's mind to guess whether the rhetorical question is supposed to be answered or not" on a personal level?
I've been threatened to get all of my stuff, my bed frame, my clothes, and my toys taken, and I'd have to work for it back or wait for holidays at age 8. Now imagine if a parent with the same threat follows through + if you're bad, no meal. Thanks Horrid Henry's parents.
Tbh I used to think that being yelled at and constantly being blamed for everything was normal because that's exactly how I was raised. Now I've realized why I have so many issues as an adult and how abusive my upbringing was. Poor Henry deserved so much better.
A lot of abusive parents aren't abusive all the time. It's more common to play with your victims by pretending to be a good parent, then abusing them, then going back to being nice and denying the abuse ever happened. If you give your kid enough gifts, that means you can't possibly be abusive, right? But even if you act like a decent parent sometimes, abusing them at all proves you don't love them.
My mum did this. One day she'd buy me art supplies, a ring light, and offering to take me to legoland, then the next, she'd be like "U never text or call" when I declined an invite to an early Christmas party at her house during covid quarentine whilst I lived with my grandmother
I always thought that Henry's parents behaviour was the depicted exaggeration through the eyes of a child. Like that time moment when your parents tell you no, you can't have XYZ and it was the most world ending, unreasonable, betrayal of your baby life.
I still appreciate what lucinda whiteley did in making the show we all loved growing up. I doubt she was the one convincing francesca simon to sign away the rights to her creation. I doubt she was the one declaring horrid henry as making no profit. As toxic as the behaviour as the parents is, it certainly is what subtly makes the show what it is, and makes henry more relatable for more of the viewers. I think a reboot of the show with francesca simon as a big role would be amazing.
I never watched horrid Henry growing up, but I do remember feeling upset whenever a I saw a child character treated unfairly; especially, if the program painted the adult characters to be in the right. This was a great breakdown man. You've got a new subscriber 👍
The gnasher one? The British Dennis the menace is the only ‘bad boy’ who is actually a twat. The American Dennis wants to help, but often makes mistakes, and Henry is mistreated. Even then, British Dennis spends a concerning amount of time with his more lenient grandma, and she is the one person he truly cares for, becoming worried when she hits her head and has a change of personality, and taking the blame for her when the police came because she had been pranking people. It feels like British Dennis prefers to stick around his grandma because she’s the only person who treats him correctly.
I dont think its necessarily bad to portray abuse in a children's show, especially not abuse as realistic as this, as it could help children realise when they need to tell another adult. I think the main issue is that it isn't presented clearly as abuse, which would be very important in a show for kids. You sometimes get characters giving Henry's parents funny looks, but thats way too subtle. I think if another adult or a teacher in the show at least tried to intervene on more than one occasion then it could have been really great.
The parents are meant to be exaggerated parents. Not to be taken as what parents would literally do. Like any cartoon it's not meant to be taken as something which would actually happen that way. The issues only appear when you take it more seriously than it's meant to be taken.
Horrid Henry was discontinued years ago but because of how bad he was treated by both his parents years later we got ppl making thories whole videos about henry's neglect/tramua which just shows how bad his parents were 21:56 i would also reccomend that
Ennit mad that as a kid I didn't even have a full grasp on abuse, but me and my sisters all knew Henry was treated pretty awful. Kid wasn't a saint (I mean, that's the point of the books/show) but the way he was punished and spoken to was pretty harsh. Sometimes he was even ragged on just out of nowhere! But gotta agree with most comments. Dad wasn't perfect, but mum was awful