The Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro May Be Old, But Can It Still Keep Up With The Ford Bronco Up A Mountain?

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@jeffontwo8636 2 года назад

1:55 in and wow, this is a very well put together video, great post-production!

@jeffontwo8636 2 года назад

It only gets better, thanks for the great reviews guys

@GurcharanSingh-np8qg 2 года назад

@@jeffontwo8636 uoooo ok ok

@maxkuker1878 2 года назад

Comments that did not age well

@persaud101 2 года назад

If your buying long term then 4 runner. If your leasing 4 runner still and Bronco or Jeep. Toyota is proven. There reason in jungle all you is Toyota land cruisers and in Middle East in rough terrain Toyota vehicles…

@BenLapke 2 года назад

One of best things about the 4RUNNER is that you can actually buy one.

@MrInternationalSound 2 года назад

😅😅😅

@chuckderuyter 2 года назад

Yeah at over MSRP especially these TRD Pros. In 10 years it’ll still be on the road and probably still worth 50% of its MSRP

@youtubecarspottersguide1 2 года назад

$15000 over sticker

@angelgjr1999 2 года назад

They’re expensive but they hold to value very well.

@JayElement13 2 года назад

I’ll take the bronco

@grantchallinor5263 2 года назад

Tommy's summing-up of both vehicles was spot-on. The Bronco is a very desirable vehicle with much more rubber, more lockers, better departure angles and is a brand-new vehicle - benefitting from the use of more modern technology. But the Toyota, without many of the toys the Bronco has, will still go just about everywhere the Ford will go but, like Tommy said, 15 years down the line a Toyota will still be going strong but the Ford will probably be on the scrapheap. There's a reason why the UN and other NGOs operating in the most remote and harshest terrain in the world pretty much only use Toyota and Japanese vehicles.

@wilfredocarracelas7351 Год назад

Nice comments 👍

@Zepyhp Год назад

well said.

@zeropointstar 5 месяцев назад

I guess, but honestly there’s more to it than just “ford makes cars that break.” That 2.3 will go a LONG ways, the 2.7 in this Bronco can be the same, and Ford uses amazing gearing with the only real exception being their stupid automatics. I’d say the 2.3 ecoboost with a manual transmission will last just as long as the Toyota, especially since Toyota’s longevity benchmarks have been a little bit more unclear recently. Hell, newer TUNDRAS are blowing main bearings at low miles.

@chandleredwards 5 месяцев назад

And now the legendary 4.0L is gone, after guzzling more than our fair share of dead dino juice. Replaced with a turbo, one would think the reliability will undoubtedly take a hit. Turbos need more attention. Period. Meanwhile I hope the new FJ has a good EV option with better range. Solid state batteries should help lower weight, but that's another episode. Great episode 🙂

@pumpkin1escobar 4 месяца назад

@@zeropointstar It just can't go as long as that 4.0. You have so much more shit that can break on the new turbo engines, you're gonna be placing a turbo long before the end of the engines life. Not to mention other shit like HPFP.

@acebrawler 2 года назад

Tommy is becoming my favorite reviewer on RU-vid. Crawl control sounds like “Sneakers in the laundry”. I have a 21 TRD Pro, and that is dead on!

@TugHillGuy 2 года назад

"Sneakers in a drier", is what I think he said. I recently saw on RU-vid (Driving Sports TV) where Crawl Control got the driver up a difficult hill that he got stuck on when driving manually. It seems like a highly effective off-road system.

@genostylez3 2 года назад

What dream-like relationship between father and son. I think this is your best Bronco video and I've watched them all! Finally Pops drives it!

@DeerUNIT42 2 года назад

Man, I was literally just thinking - If I can be a dad like this guy one day. LEGEND

@Elite_Employee 2 года назад

Bronco is trash

@jimparchert5806 2 года назад

I just went over Imogene Pass in a stock 2003 Suzuki Vitara with 28” KO2 (stock size) tires. I had no issues at all. It just shows that you do not need a new very expensive 4X4 to be able to go on trails.

@Paiadakine 2 года назад

Wow. Thanks for that comparison point. Now I can take this channel with a grain of salt.

@RickysHP 2 года назад

Just did it a few weeks ago in an F350 (Tremor)... Was a little tight around a couple of the switchbacks (had to do a multi-point turn a couple of times), and when there was oncoming traffic in a couple of spots, but knowing the edge of your vehicle is a great thing. The looks on some people's faces when the beast came through was hilarious. Had at least 4-5 people on the trail give me kudos for using it like it was meant.

@sofloflow 2 года назад

@@RickysHP I didnt know about the Tremor until just now when I read your comment. Basically an off road package for the F350? Freakin sweet! Now I want one!

@sargeredteamleader1762 2 года назад

@Jim Parchert I did the same trail in my old 2009 Hyundai Santa Fe on stock tires no lift and not even a 4x4, it was a 2x4 fwd.

@RickysHP 2 года назад

@@sargeredteamleader1762 stupid is as stupid does. I'm sure you had to take every bypass on the route with it, too.

@Magellan678 2 года назад

Plot twist: Any trim level 4x4 4Runner could have easily done this trail. No need to always get caught up in the TRD hype

@txrunroutdoors 2 года назад

True. But to be fair the TRD Pro "looks" alot cooler 😎 than the other trim levels. And most people buying these are doing it for 80% looks 20% capabilities. I've seen 4runners with snorkels, roof racks, mud terrains, etc, and when I ask the owner about their lift kit it's either: A) I don't know the dealer did it for me B) It's just some spacers from Amazon I always say "that's cool", and feel bad for the truck. Almost the same feeling I get when I can't rescue a lost puppy.

@cocx88 2 года назад

100% fact, an sr5 with ATs and atrac on can do pretty much anything Colorado has to offer.

@matte8441 2 года назад

I'd rather buy the SR5 and use the $15K i saved vs getting the TRD PRO on my own accessories and having a unique build. I work as a tech at a Toyota shop and we call them the turds because of the price hike for minor cosmetic changes esp on the cars. The only car maker that could get away with slapping their performance badge on their regular cars is BMW, i owned a 335i with the M// package and although the excessive badges were tacky they looked distinctive from the regular models and they tune the suspension and steering on later ones.

@uuuu260 2 года назад

TRD does look badass. I want to take my 16 limited to a trail but I’m afraid of messing up the trim due to the lower clearance :(

@txrunroutdoors 2 года назад

@@uuuu260 get some rock sliders made for that trim. You'll be fine

@khakiswag 2 года назад

In all of the videos you’ve done the Bronco doesn’t seemed challenged. It made this trail look like it could be done in a CR-V.

@CoyoteFTW 2 года назад

the bronco makes it look effortless, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rx34Tbefh4A.html put a stock 4 runner on this trail

@mrvwbug4423 2 года назад

Imogene can be done in most stock 4x4s on 31s, there are alt lines for lifted vehicles, but the main line is not that hard

@paulstandaert5709 2 года назад

I wouldn't take a CRV on the Ouray side of Imogene, but it could do the Telluride side. In either case, pretty much any high clearance vehicle can make it, even 2wd with a locker and banging it up the obstacles as needed. A couple years ago, I watched a guy force his CRV up that last switchback on the west side of Engineer pass. He did it. I am sure he scraped a bunch, and was lifting wheels like crazy, but he didn't totally destroy it.

@groberts1980 2 года назад

Trust me the trail could not be done in a CR-V. We've personally rescued two off of this trail. The Bronco is just capable.

@CP-kb1du 2 года назад

@@CoyoteFTW what is your point ? let's see how long the Bronco Lasts

@stevevice9863 2 года назад

Thanks for the memories! Just did Imogene last month with my daughter and had a blast! Fun to see all those obsticles and fantastic scenery again. We did it in my 2000 4Runner with 225K miles, (been in our family since new). It has a 2" lift and 33's. Climbed over everything in it's path without lockers...I was impressed with it's capability, and also got us all the way back home to Kentucky without any drama.

@unodfredy 2 года назад

Impressive. I have a stock 4th Gen and I needed my rear lockers once. I’ve seen a stock 3rd Gen do it though with 4WD and a locker.

@stevevice9863 2 года назад

@@unodfredyI kept it in 4WD low and first gear going up the steep stuff. I'm running Falcon Wildpeak AT3w's...it was wet that day and those tires gripped really well. Only spun on one steep switchback, but picked a better line and they crawled right up. I just wonder if we will be seeing any '21 Broncos in 2041 still climbing a 13000' pass.

@jimren5638 2 года назад

And that is why I'll never give up my 4Runner. Yeah, it's old tech but it still goes pretty much anywhere off road and on and you know it has iconic reliability. Something no American brand can say, unfortunately.

@stevevice9863 2 года назад

@@jimren5638 You will have to pry my 4Runner out of my cold dead hands! 😂

@unodfredy 2 года назад

@@stevevice9863 that I do not think so. Unless they were like garage kept, have low mileage, and a granny drove it

@ronaldsteiger7562 2 года назад

How cool is to be able to work as a father son team in such beautiful country You guys are so far above all the other auto review folks

@hikikomori69 2 года назад

Man, I left SW Colorado for Portland due to a job and now headed to the Bay Area. You guys never fail to make me homesick lol... Great video!

@pbranham3508 2 года назад

I just left the Bay Area it’s becoming quite dangerous be carefull up there!!

@mini2nut67 2 года назад

Long term durability is where the 4Runner shines. The old school Japanese assembled 4Runner will last 300k with very little routine maintenance and minimal repairs.

@usz28 2 года назад

Yes but as much as people hate to admit it Ford vehicles are pretty reliable. Just like every brand they have recalls Toyota just had a massive recall. There's so many old '94 ford's cruising around with over $250,000 miles on them

@billyhughes9776 2 года назад

@@usz28 Of course there are some Ford models that end up being reliable but overall Toyota as a brand buries Ford from a reliability standpoint. Even with the recalls.

@brookdavis8425 2 года назад

Tell me about those old Toyota timing chains, head gaskets, and frame rot just to name a few. This coming from my own experience.

@GoDaveGo 2 года назад

Fact: if you get 100,000 Toyota anythings and compare them to 100,000 Ford/Jeep/Nissan/any brand comparable, the Toyotas will have more cars that continue to work and fewer that have significant problems. There are lots of reasons not to buy a Toyota, but they are the best at what they aim to do. In fact, every industry on the planet has tried to copy how Toyota does what they do, and Toyota is still the best at that process. They have the secret sauce built into their culture, and no manufacturing, tech, healthcare, or any other kind of company has been able to better them.

@luchaDor 2 года назад

Yeah, everywhere except the salt belt. Mechanically great, the best IMO...but their vehicles on frames, FJ's, Tundra's, 4Runners, etc, just don't last. Maybe these last couple model years they've finally turned a corner, but a 2017 Tundra I looked at last week, was already rusting through the bed where it mounts to the frame. Which is apparently a common issue.

@TugHillGuy 2 года назад

I've noticed auto reviewers seem to like to talk about the exhaust sound on vehicles a lot. My priority in that regard is that it be as quiet as possible. I thought the old Subaru commercial was very effective where the family comes up on some deer browsing near a dirt road in their relatively quiet Subaru. Then, a truck with a V8 comes roaring up behind them and scares the deer away. The guy in the truck puts down his window and asks "What are y'all lookin at?"

@joe1071 2 года назад

Haha, same. I've shopped to replace my rusting exhaust and all I can find are exhausts that has more sound. I want less!

@elijahmontgomery4146 2 года назад

@@joe1071 Hate to break it to you, but you fill a very niche portion of the aftermarket exhaust market.

@joe1071 2 года назад

@@elijahmontgomery4146 I've noticed, hahaha

@alonsoconstantino5493 2 года назад

Try travelling with exhaust drone for a four hour trip across the desert to Vegas.

@joe1071 2 года назад

@@alonsoconstantino5493 exactly! I have a family and tow a camper cross country every year. Not interested in a louder exhaust!

@FreakyT333 2 года назад

I’m actually quite impressed that Bronco got over 19mpg with such an off-road biased set up at elevation like that. No surprises on the 4-runner mpg. I bet if you put 35’s and the same lift on the 4-runner you’d see less than 19mpg. Great vid guys!

@KTMcaptain 2 года назад

Yeah, quite a bit less. I put 265s plus 2” lift and on my Tacoma and my mpg dropped by 3.

@angry-newyorker9070 2 года назад

The fuel economy test did not include the off-road portion. The test was for their drive there I believe.

@trailrunnah8886 2 года назад

From what I see in the 4Runner groups, 35 inch tires on a 4Runner get you 12 to 15 MPG at best. Not to mention, they don't really fit right, so you have to lift it a few inches and do some cutting of the inner fenders and the chassis. You also need to regear, since the 4Runner is geared marginally for its stock size tires.

@StubProductions 2 года назад

@@trailrunnah8886 Yes but the 4Runner doesn’t need 35’s! So it’s moot point.

@brentworls8509 2 года назад

The 2.7TT is a greatly underappreciated engine design. Ford is lightyears ahead in engine technology over all other automakers, especially the Big 3 and Toyota.

@TheCree2010 2 года назад

The amount of information I’ve gotten from TFK is just amazing. Always positive videos, and I’m always happen when a new one came out. I have a new 2021 Rubicon (2 door) coming in shortly, I’m going to have to get to Colorado and try this trail looks beautiful

@elliottloomis4383 2 года назад

Nothing like seeing an awesome father/son adventure. Well done fellas!

@TugHillGuy 2 года назад

Great video and good review! The 4-Runner reminds me of my '07 Explorer Sport Trac in some ways - 4L V6, 5-speed, spare mounted underneath. Both have highly reliable drive trains. I suspect if you took the 4-Runner up the trail that stranded your Defender (conquered by the Bronco and Wrangler 4xe) it may not have fared as well, due to the large rocks and its 32" tires. When you need to drop the spare there tends to be a bunch of dirt and rust on the top side (which I know from experience) and the cable release can rust to the point of not releasing the spare. That happened on my chimney sweep's van in my driveway a few weeks ago. He ended up taking a sawzall to the chuck that held his spare up to get it to drop.

@brianussery7095 2 года назад

I just did Imogene, Black Bear and several other passes and trails in a 2007 Pathfinder with open diffs. I think you guys need a little challenging trail to really judge these 2 vehicles.

@Rommer2258 2 года назад

After what happened with them and subaru, I think they pick a semi challenging trail, but nothing crazy so they don't burn their relationship with anymore manufacturers

@duey1083 2 года назад

@@Rommer2258 Hey Joe, which video are you referring to?

@Rommer2258 2 года назад

@@duey1083 this was like 6 years ago now. Look up tfl subaru issues

@davep2945 2 года назад

Yep, both of those trails are old mining routes that are now semi to well maintained adventure sightseeing trails. They can be dangerous because of the elevation and drop offs but as far as challenging a serious off roader, nope, not at all. The differences in these two will only come at the extremes of capability where the Bronco has the advantage. But how many people who buy either of these vehicles will ever push them to the point of near failure to find out? For most people, most of the time and going to most of the places where non rock crawlers go, either will work and so will a couple of dozen other models on the market. And, by the way, although it never got much respect here in the US the R51 Pathfinder was a very capable off road vehicle if it's driver ever asked it to be.

@MrFordguy73 2 года назад

Yes, this is good compare video, my 2000 F150 with open diffs did Imogene, it's still challenging depending on the snowmelt and maintenance but I think the Bronco is more aggressive and needs a more challenging trail to show it's full potential.

@CarnutMM 2 года назад

I love your off road video. I can’t get enough of those Colorado views. I would like you to bring back the series where you go to mountain towns and trails like airplane wreckage.

@nickknee3515 2 года назад

Love these trail videos, I've been catching up on all of them they're just so fun to watch. Must be so much fun living in Colorado with all these awesome trails to go to, I live in the western mountains of Maine and all we have are old logging roads, some of them are so grown in you'll get your car, what we like to call, bushwacked where the alders scratch the hell out of the sides your car. That Bronco looks like so much fun to take to the trails but I wouldn't want to drive it everyday, but that 4Runner is almost as good and can be driven everyday for hundreds of thousands of miles.

@IslandMonkProduction 2 года назад

Great video - I had an order for the bronco but canceled b/c of the 4R being bulletproof and i didnt want to have any Turbos much less 2 of them. Makes me feel good knowing my 4R can make it up these crazy places same as a Bronco - though i expect some places it would not do near as well. but thats years away.

@jaradderosa3252 2 года назад

Toyota should make their Pro models run 33’s and at least the Ridge Grapplers. Bet it would be a game changer for the 4Runner.

@OGcottoncandyrandy 2 года назад

My Pro came with Ridge Grapplers, not 33’s but still nice to have over the Terra Grapplers!

@yourlame9795 2 года назад

A game changer? The 4 runner is one of the most highly sought after vehicles in the U.S , there’s a reason you can sell them damn near close for what you paid for them , no other vehicle can compete in resale value.

@txrunroutdoors 2 года назад

@@yourlame9795 I have an 01 4runner that still takes me through the trails, hunting ranches, fishing spots with no problem. My wife's 2016 Trail Edition came with all the same off road technology in this video that the TRD Pro has. Only difference is suspension, skid plate, and emblems. We were 6k upside down on a trade in. Now it's worth more than we owe. The "Toyota Tax" is real. I love our 4runners and get compliments on them from alot of other people into this kinda stuff. With that said, those Broncos are pretty sweet, I'm so glad Ford didn't do to the Bronco what GM did to the Blazer.

@JTR253 2 года назад

@@txrunroutdoors They did and it is called Bronco Sport.

@daltonv5206 2 года назад

@@txrunroutdoors I bought a 18' pro with 20k miles a year ago for a steal. Dealership just reopened after Rona and wanted to move vehicles. It's actually gone up in value since I purchased it, even WITH the 20k miles I've added to it. It's nuts

@zacharyhasselberg9246 2 года назад

Great video. Been waiting for this comparison.

@jonfreeze 2 года назад

Great video, awesome comparison, but amazing father and son relationship! This was so much fun to watch you guys.

@dalejones4322 2 года назад

These videos are great. Through them I have learned that you don't always need every off road option to have fun. Big tires and four wheel low can get you most places. Thanks guys

@derekmorris2045 2 года назад

Amen

@davidonewayticket3388 2 года назад

And 🔒 👌

@DogTownRiverRat 2 года назад

Just got back from an overnight trip in the Ozarks in my ‘21 4Runner Off Road, stock with 275/70/17 Falken Wildpeak AT3Ws and it did amazingly well through some pretty gnarly stuff.

@TheCapn23 2 года назад

Pretty much. Remember the kind of trucks people were driving on these trails decades ago. You really don't need all the bells and whistles on modern trucks.

@Bacnow 2 года назад

That Bronco needs more of a challenge! So far, it has effortlessly smashed these trails!

@jcart011 2 года назад

from what i hear imagene isnt much of a challenge at all. people do it in full size and hd trucks all the time.

@WW-wf8tu 2 года назад

It has been challenged on more than just Imogene. You just need to do a little bit of searching to see it in proper action. But then, you can see the 4R being put through more extreme scenario's as well with a little search. ;)

@yourlame9795 2 года назад

The bronco already has enough challenges man lol they can’t even make the tops work right lol

@kevinlogan2306 2 года назад

Wont happen

@Bacnow 2 года назад

@@robertyoung8289 - i know the roof has been an issue (seems to be resolved) but 100k miles? Which part of the vehicle will fail? The engine? Built specifically for turbochargers and composed of Compacted Graphite Iron and and is literally one of the most durable V6 blocks in existence - check with the millions that are on the road including fleet and service vehicles and get back to me on that…many of these vehicles have exceeded 200k miles and are well on their way to 300k miles The Tranny? Co-produced by Ford And GM and is in most Ford, Chevy and GMC (cars, SUVs, cargo vans, trucks etc…) - once again, check with the millions of vehicles that are in service and see if they are still running after 100k miles or even 200k miles… The suspension? Get real! Most suspensions (even the crappy ones) usually outlast the vehicle!

@caifan444 2 года назад

Oh yeah! You guys did it again one of the best videos I have watched here on RU-vid keep it up tfl

@trmooreztube 2 года назад

The videography was amazing in this! Great video!

@Jmonty580 2 года назад

Sounds like sneakers in the laundry. Spot on! I can never unhear that now.

@neverendingweekend 2 года назад

If I’ve learned anything from these bronco comparison videos is that unless you’re doing something very extreme, it really doesn’t matter what ‘rugged’ truck you drive. It’ll get you there. 🤷‍♂️

@EricsonHerbas 2 года назад

This is such a great review. I enjoyed the dad & son chemistry.

@ShiftyS550 2 года назад

TFL is a national treasure! This was a great video. Both vehicles are definitely setting the bar when it comes to off-roading excellence. I’d take either one in a heartbeat, but I’m partial to the bronco as I’m a larger guy and the interior of the 4Runner tends to be a little more narrow. I’m like Roman, I looks for comfort first. Lol

@mosescortez711 2 года назад

Like an old shoe! Fits and is comfortable. Roman prefers the linguine mode. Great video Mica team. 👍👍👍

@ivannarvaez367 2 года назад

I love these big trail videos! Can’t go wrong with the Bronco or Toyota.

@twystedhumour 2 года назад

exactly! buy what you want that you can afford!

@stevendhanjal3679 2 года назад

So nice to see a strong, and healthy relationship between father, and son.. Sweet Video guys !!

@mohanedbadawi9993 2 года назад

Nice Vid! Loved the comparison and the trail. Please do a similar one Bronco vs FJ 😎 Thank you for putting out enjoyable content as well as knowledge!

@zaphods2ndhead193 2 года назад

That 35 degree climb. I remember the first time I went over that in my FJ Cruiser. It was the first time I had done serious off roading. The trail had just opened that same day so everything around that climb was still covered in show, so no alternate lines. I missed the line the vehicle in front of me had taken. I started climbing and had nothing to see except sky. Scared the hell out of me. The next year it was a piece of cake. Lol.

@thepebblesexplore83 2 года назад

I think that was the “wall” they struggled with on hilow from donut media. Dunno how.

@rc51bigdaddy 2 года назад

Great video! I bought a new TRD Pro last February and have been very happy with the overall versatility of the truck. It's perfect for my needs. Both the TRD Pro and the Bronco are very impressive.

@daveg.4862 2 года назад

Beautiful camera & post prod, two great off roaders. one of your best Father & Son reviews.

@charlesknight5140 2 года назад

Showing LOVE for my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE CHANNEL PERIOD Thank You for another great video once again gentleman. Have a Blessed day everyone

@ricwestdoesitwork 2 года назад

I’m impressed with the mpg of both vehicles. Great off road video guys.

@ajmedeiros77 2 года назад

I love both for what they are.

@JohnSmith-zi9or 2 года назад

You guys have the best job. Seeing Colorado from your videos makes me want to move there.

@stanfordbanks3399 2 года назад

First of all I love you guys. I watch your channel because it does help me better understand the trucks and their capabilities before I buy. Now with all that said it's time for your show to start setting up these trucks with the same off road tires with like speaks so we can see who is best on road, mud, sand, rocks, gas mileage, tow and snow. I believe the only changes you would need to make are tires, close gearing and ride height. If you put ten to fifteen videos together showing these trucks in sand, mud, road, towing, rocks, milage and snow views like myself will be glued to your videos and most likely they will become most viewed... Thanks for reading and good luck guys... The Banks Family

@BradKoester 2 года назад

This is hands down my favorite trail that I have done! I was able to make it our to CO this past July and was able to knock out a few badge of honor trails. Great video as always!

@DUNEATV 2 года назад

How long does it take?

@BradKoester 2 года назад

@@DUNEATV We took our time and stopped a few times (to see the old mines and lunch), we did it in a little over 4 hours.

@DUNEATV 2 года назад

@@BradKoester Was that 4 hours total up and down?

@kennethwomack8678 2 года назад

Love your videos! We did Imogene from Ouray 2nd week of Aug. this year. Our vehicle is a 2000 Cherokee XJ with a 3” lift, 31” Duratracs, no lockers or skid plates and with 4 people on board. This is my favorite trail of all time! Spent 3 weeks in CO. Some up by Ya’ll.

@txrunroutdoors 2 года назад

Love those XJs. Hold onto it man. They are so hard to find now unless you find a beat to crap one. Such a classic look, and they are super light weight. I was looking for one for months but ended up getting a 3rd gen 4runner instead.

@kennethwomack8678 2 года назад

@@txrunroutdoors Thanks! I looked for 8 months. It’s a keeper!

@noehctuccmliw 2 года назад

I have a lifted 97 xj on ko2 33's with 4.5" lift & rear ARB lock for 'fun' and a 99 xj stock on 235 Duratrac for daily/work. Love these old XJs! Cheap, reliable, easy to fix with tons of after market. The 97 has just over ½ mil on the odometer.

@txrunroutdoors 2 года назад

@@redrider7730 are they solid axel in the front though? I think that's why the XJ was sought after. And they only weigh like 3400lbs

@txrunroutdoors 2 года назад

@@redrider7730 good to know. I've always liked that generation of jeeps. So do yall obtain lifts by using taller coils on all 4 corners, just like an IFS would?

@scottsakamoto4162 Год назад

You two are awesome! Keep up the great work. Happy New Year

@benilk5716 2 года назад

The quality of this video is movie like, excellent job!

@TracyKMainwaring 2 года назад

I see the title "This Toyota is old..." but I don't see an old Toyota anywhere LOL. I drive a 2001 SR5 4Runner. 😁

@pauleric1746 2 года назад

Yeah I didn’t know we were calling a newer 5th gen four runner “old”

@nascarfreek23 2 года назад

No. Their Toyota is old. Yours is a classic car... 20 years old right? Haha

@unodfredy 2 года назад

And if you have 4WD and a locker you can do this pass as well. I’ve seen it done in a stock SR5 3rd Gen.

@MC4D. 2 года назад

Do you mean an old ford?

@TracyKMainwaring 2 года назад

@@pauleric1746 it's so new still I can't afford it LOL.

@jmua8450 2 года назад

“We’ve had this Bronco a month and never taken it off road.” I’ll wager that 90% of Broncos will never see the off road.

@davidnalls8628 2 года назад

Tommy has taken it off-road, but Roman hadn’t.

@nofyfb123 2 года назад

They may not see the road either. Other than from the tow truck bed.

@usz28 2 года назад

90% off off road vehicles*

@TubeRLH 2 года назад

Same with most 4X4's including 4runners.

@TubeRLH 2 года назад

@@nofyfb123 NOT!

@georgearevalo781 2 года назад

Great vid as always thanks tfl

@JL-dk3te 2 года назад

Awesome video great overview of both vehicles 👍🏽👍🏽

@ruizpaul642 2 года назад

Really like the styling and the overall stance of the stock bronco but I just don't know how reliable it would be longevity wise and so forth. My 1999 4Runner has 480,000 mi original transmission and motor. Only time will tell .

@speterbilt 2 года назад

Now they do, cuz engine are blowing up amd the 4 runners are still going

@TugHillGuy 2 года назад

According to many RU-vid reviews I've watched, where Bronco exceeds its competition the most is in high speed off-roading in Baja and mud-n-ruts type terrain. Some of the early ride-along reviews at King of the Hammers and Moab demonstrated that. Both Wrangler and 4Runner owners who did ride-alongs commented on how much better Bronco (with advanced HOSS suspension) rode on such terrain than their vehicles. I suspect Bronco inherited at least some of that capability from the Raptor.

@ernestjohnson1807 Год назад

Bronco failed hard at the Baja.

@DM-tf6mk 2 года назад

Another great video! Definitely looked like a great day!

@billjamison2877 2 года назад

Guys. Your channel is bye far is the BEST one on RU-vid for giving the BEST reviews out there. All of you at TFL do a tremendous service for the buying public. Bill from Linglestown Pennsylvania

@leonmawudzi705 2 года назад

This is a really good video. I absolutely love the Ford Bronco, wouldn't mind owning one🔥🔥

@weekendwarrior8179 2 года назад

I still like the 4 runner better... After owning a Wrangler... The soft top noise gets old quick

@303MoTo 2 года назад

Indeed, all that noise would drive me crazy

@dialupdavid 2 года назад

Really not a big comparison if I'm being honest. 4Runner will be basically worth the same as you paid for it in 3 years, and work flawlessly for 300K+ miles. Ford's Bronco will probably due for a tranny swap day after warranty expiration and be worth like $7. If my life depended on it, I'd only ever take a Toyota into a dangerous/skilled trail system.

@timber543 2 года назад

@@dialupdavid you nailed it, I wouldn't trust a Ford anywhere that I couldn't easily walk home from

@nerfboy61 2 года назад

Luckily the bronco factory soft top is far quieter than the one in the Jeep’s.

@Captainslow556 2 года назад

Broncos are trash

@Followthelemming 2 года назад

Great video guys!

@ostmk496 2 года назад

Great Video guys!!

@blossom30x4 2 года назад

“Your bigger tires are better in the dirt…” love it.

@christianbolt5761 Год назад

I wanted to get the Bronco, but the engine and roof issues, along with availability deterred me. I ordered a 2023 TRD Pro at MSRP and four and a half months later.

@prescrobot500 2 года назад

Thank you for the fuel mileage section. Super helpful!

@richh650 2 года назад

There are no more beautiful videos from any other vehicle reviewers. Another A+ video guys!!!

@TerryGrayTX 2 года назад

Great video. Just did this about 3-4 weeks ago in my 5th gen 4R. So cool being able to say "Hey, I've been to that exact spot on the trail!" Which one for me? Well, for me, I gotta think about how far I am from the trails. I'm in Dallas, so the closest place is about 4:00 or 4:30. Because of that time on the road, I fall to the 4R side. However, I might change my mind after the v2 Bronco comes out in a few years! A few little improvements here and there and it might even out a bit...but then we will be comparing to the 6th gen 4R!

@stevenlefebvre2991 2 года назад

Great video I am glad you showed where the 4runner shines. And it did not need a 10 speed transmission to get better gas mileage than the Ford. I love the powertrain in the 4runner. With proper maintenance it will last a very long time.

@lincolnmicrophonellc Год назад

Thank you so much for the video and for sharing the name of the summit so i can try to make it out that way, beautiful!

@adventureawaits3646 2 года назад

great video, both great vehicles, I just prefer the convertible, but am looking forward to see what Toyota might do with the redesign. And what a gorgeous trail, I hope to make it out there one of these days to explore all these passes. Such a beautiful area!

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 года назад

Great video! I did Imogene Pass in my 3.5” lifted 2019 Honda Passport back in July and it was the most beautiful trail I’ve ever been on. Hope to see you guys at Overland Expo 🤞

@rockymountboy 2 года назад

I watch your vids! :-)

@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 года назад

@@rockymountboy thanks 🙏. I’ve been watching TFL since 2012, and I thank them for the honest real world reviews.

@resharddurdley6987 2 года назад

Good video. Bronco is very impressive. Ford nailed it. Ford has really shined with their off road vehicles. As Americans venture out to remote areas more than ever! But Toyota us tried and true. Great job guys!

@markabr13 Год назад

Great video! Amazing views!

@DanyRivard 2 года назад

Wow !! the Colorado landscape is awesome !!

@marklaster8781 2 года назад

I have to smile when I see you guys in Colorado go through a water crossing that is based with rock and think you are mudding. If you can still see your rims when you come out the other side, your aren't mudding, you are driving through a swimming pool. And I say that with the upmost respect.😁I love Imogene Pass and watching you guys drive it really allows those of us that have done the trail the ability to see exactly how those vehicles react on familiar ground. Love your videos!

@drakedrake8405 2 года назад

Toyotas are the best vehicle, I’ll choice 4Runner any days!

@mattbrew11 2 года назад

whenever you get your license make sure dad knows your preference

@TheMeanmarine13 2 года назад

@@mattbrew11 lmao ☠💀

@ipdjbt 2 года назад

Apparently English isn't your choice language.

@keenra 2 года назад

Thanks for making this!

@whiskey4609 2 года назад

loved this series!!! great father son team

@alanwhite4809 2 года назад

I saw a Bronco on the road the other day and noticed how far it looks like the mirrors stick out. Looked weird in person and now I cant unsee it.

@firebir11 2 года назад

My thoughts exactly after seeing it….it looked (with the top down) like a slab sided 4 door bathtub. I think it was better designed as a 2 door.

@bellasky83 2 года назад

It is not a good looking vehicle, in my opinion.

@alexs3187 2 года назад

@@bellasky83 some people prefer bland.

@Rzagski 2 года назад

I’ve been up and down the Imogene pass outside of telluride. I didn’t think it was that difficult. Did it in a ‘96 LR Discovery with a 5 speed manual in 1996. Maybe the road has changed since then? I do remember it was beautiful. I think as long as you have the most import tool in the vehicle ( that being your brain) you can make it with a lot of modern off SUVs

@andrewwilkey6195 2 года назад

I agree, it’s not hard at all. I did it last month by myself in a stock rental jeep… in the rain. In fact I passed a bronco sport between the summit and telluride going the opposite direction towards telluride. The only thing I really wanted was the cameras of the bronco, passing on the shelf road can be tricky solo.

@rocketcity4x449 2 года назад

Nope. Still pretty easy.

@Contest4Freedom 2 года назад

Great video! Thank you!

@g.fortin3228 2 года назад

I so wish I had some cool places to go with my rig ! So much private land or trails are so narrow you wreck your paint where I live. Have to wait for snow to have any fun LOL. GREAT video guys ! Nice perspective and mountain scenery/trails was awesome.

@JAMESWUERTELE 2 года назад

When you use the locker in the 4Runner, select ATRAC for the front end!!! The front acts like an open diff still.

@nicholascooper1193 2 года назад

agree. rear locker + ATRAC + steady throttle = 99% of the capability of a front locker in the type of wheeling you see on this channel.

@DogTownRiverRat 2 года назад

It’s the best setup for the 4Runner. I never even touch crawl control.

@paulgrinold1103 2 года назад

That is why pseudo lockers like a trac work so well in 99 percent of situations.

@BullionRookie Год назад

Now let’s see that bronco go 500,000+ miles😆

@Bananahammock88 4 месяца назад

As a 4Runner owner, I don’t agree with you. There’s good in both vehicles. That’s like when people compare the 4Runner to a Jeep. The Jeep is an offroad monster and the 4Runner is ok at best when rock crawling. Everything has their place.

@rodneyhanbaum697 2 года назад

This was great! Thank you!

@davidwayne9982 2 года назад

LOVE THAT VIDEO.. thanks so much..

@StubProductions 2 года назад

The Bronco engine compartment looks like the plumbing section at the hardware store. 😄

@jerroldshelton9367 2 года назад

You left off the "after a 1,000 pound bomb went off in the tool department and made the whole place a jumbled mess."

@StubProductions 2 года назад

@@jerroldshelton9367 😄

@robbinconner9061 2 года назад

Very nicely produced video and as always engagingly presented. However, in the clips it certainly appears there is a jouncier ride in the 4 runner which looks very familiar (not terrible) to those who have driven them; the Bronco looks really well tuned and comfortable off road with less side to side head motion and is really remarkable for such a capable vehicle running almost 35" tires. Secondly on road the engine transmission combination of the 4runner is awful. It sounds coarse and strained when asked to accelerate and feels delayed and slow. The infotainment system is seemingly form another era. The Bronco I test drove was miles ahead in the engine/transmission combination. If you want a second vehicle to go off-roading, I don't think it is even close. If you only occasionally off-road and on trails that are not extreme (like some of the harder Moab trails or taking the harder lines on intermediate trails) the 4runner is a more versatile choice as an all around vehicle.

@tomguertin7713 2 года назад

Good job with this comparison guys. Thank you…

@4x4-RV 2 года назад

Excellent video. It’s great to see that more simple nature of the Toyota is still a great choice. And it’s definitely proved itself over the years. Thank you Tommy for keeping your language clean! Nice to be able to see a video that I can show my family. 👍

@justlivelovelaughfrugally 2 года назад

So no one wants to discuss how Roman played Tommy when he said, “which you can’t do that in. Jeep by the way” 😂😂

@crisbeveridge 2 года назад

Tommy should have used the Multi-Terrain Select in the Rock or Loose Rock setting with the Rear Differential locked; the 4Runner wouldn’t have spun the front wheel at all on the final rock ledge. You don’t need to “ignore the technology” to lock the rear diff….unless you are trying to emphasize the 35” inch tires and the Front Locking Differential on the Bronco (which are unique to the Sasquatch).

@PAKraig 2 года назад

Or just used ATrac in tandem with rear locker

@CP-kb1du 2 года назад

Tommy has zero clue how to drive a 4RUNNER ...

@garthhowe297 2 года назад

Wow, spectacular scenery!

@bruceclyne5254 6 месяцев назад

Great comparison and enjoyed the father-son camaraderie. Nice work!

@craiggullett2922 2 года назад

Tommy really doesnt want to give any credit to the Bronco. Love you videos.

@angrychilimango630 2 года назад

I’ll take the 4Runner any day , even tho that bronco looks awesome and I’m a big fan of the bullnose Broncos , Toyota reliability reigns supreme !🤘🏼

@buckhorncortez 2 года назад

Yeah...those 50 year old Broncos are barely running ...

@angrychilimango630 2 года назад

@@buckhorncortez most of them have a Chevy 350 SB in them lmao

@krasnaludek298 2 года назад

@@buckhorncortez 🤣👍🏻 Old Ford trucks & Broncos are very durable. I don’t know where some of these guys are getting the impression otherwise.

@LaughingPyrate 2 года назад

@@buckhorncortez Apples and oranges. I'd consider buying an old Ford, but the new ones? Nope. Maybe in a few years after they've had a chance to sort things out. Doesn't really matter, though. Not like you can buy one of these things anyway.

@IDontKnow-bb6mt 2 года назад

@@buckhorncortez Sorry but most of anything Ford has made in the past 15 years has been plagued with problems and reliability. Ford makes cheap junk, has been doing so for a while now.

@realMysta 2 года назад

I was just up there 2 weeks ago! Never been offroading so did a tour, really cool(and a bit of a clincher).

@samjohnson9894 2 года назад

I did that trail last weekend, albeit in the other direction. #80series You captured it very well. Another great vid TFL!

@MHix63 2 года назад

These videos just make me appreciate the 4Runner more. I need a vehicle capable of off-roading, but not a dedicated extreme rock crawler. And I also need to use that same vehicle to tow my boat to the launch. 4Runner can do both, Bronco can't.

@JeepCherokeeful 2 года назад

So can a 2003 4Runner

@mr75204 2 года назад

Then you realize you’re in a Toyota that hasn’t changed their interior, engine or transmission since 1998.

@dwightk.schrute5455 2 года назад

@@mr75204 What

@billredding2000 2 года назад

True, and that's one reason I got a Jeep Gladiator: To tow more than 3500lbs. And, it's my Daily Driver so it has to do everything else I need, too. A Wrangler or Bronco just wouldn't do towing-capacity-wise...so it HAD to be a MID-size TRUCK, but, one that was also a "serious" (!) off-road 4x4 (so not a Ranger, Canyon, etc.). Plan A though (back in February 2021) was a Chevy Colorado ZR2, but due to GM's chip shortage I never was able to GET it so in mid-April, got the Gladiator (Rubicon) off a Jeep dealership's lot -- no waiting! -- BR

@mattgray6436 2 года назад

The 4Runner isn’t even close off road. It’s more comparable to an f150

@mattg8116 2 года назад

When you are talking about the price difference I think you should remember you are in a first edition, not a Badlands or even a Basesquatch which all would have done exactly the same on the trail with different levels of creature comforts. The Badlands would be similar or cheaper while offering the same off-road improvements, and while the Basesquatch may lack refinement, its cost compared the to TRD pro is just incredible.

@jpoRS 2 года назад

The same could be said about the TRD Off Road instead of a Pro.

@luisinhoens90 2 года назад

I'd say the Black Diamond has most of the off-road capability at a much cheaper price than the Badlands or 1st edition.

@christophercarillo6342 2 года назад

You can configure a badlands like the first edition with lux pack leather and Sasquatch. My mom owns a manual Badlands with luxury package, and I was waiting until the Sasquatch was offered with manual. I’ll be getting a badlands manual Sasquatch luxury package with power leather seats. (The only way to get manual transmission and lumbar support is on the high spec badlands). The only thing I’ll be giving up to the first edition is the 2.7 otherwise the truck will be the same.