Perth has a highly successful bus system. But fact is that the journey from Gnangara and Darch into the city and other centres requires more than a bus service. It needs dedicated lanes and large buses/trains to carry large numbers of people. There are huge areas that are too hard being serviced by multiple bus trips into the city.
This video is terrifying, it shows a sales pitch for a boutique solution. Electric articulated buses and BRT is more suitable than locking yourself in to a solution by one manufacturer. It also shows a solution looking for a buyer rather than comparing against buses and traditional trams.
"Trackless tram" is just a fancy phrase for a bus. No one ever mentions how these monsters require significant reconstruction of the roads they run on.
@@thevannmannbased on the animations? If ride comfort is the desire build a traditional tram 🤷🏻♂️ the video I watched of ride comfort it was similar to BRT.
Buses are single vehicles or two vehicles put into one(articulate bus). Trams are many vehicles put together like slinky. That's why at Disneyland, they call the thing that takes people to the park from the parking garage a tram, even though it has wheels.
That is true. Stronger roads. Some would be sufficient. E.g leach hwy. But others wouldn't.. It is more than a bus though. We all know why they call it trackless trams. Its smarter than you think.
ABSOLUTLY RIGHT ! It's a self-deception for those cities, which politicians are still addicted to the so called "car-friendly city" of the 60s and 70s and therefore do not really want a change in the "modal-split" between road traffic and public transport. It's a crampled, technically perverse attempt to make the Bus "rail-level"... without the benefits of a Tram. Instead of green, grass covered “Turf-Tracks” in the middle of streets, within green belts or parks, those bus lanes just expand the asphalt deserts in our cities, even more. High capacities and therefore cost-effectiveness, such as train formation in units (multiple-traction) for Trams, are equally not possible. Neither does the shared use of railway lines in mixed traffic, like in Karlsruhe (GER) or in Manchester (GB). This FAKE of a Tram is just a longer Bus. And our citizens still see it as a “bigger car” and therefore not as an attractive competitor TO the car ... That's the whole story about, if we really want a true paradigm shift in our cities ! ☝️🧐 🇩🇪
There has to be a better and quicker way of servicing corridors and major routes. To Gnangara on Mirrabooka Ave and/or Alexander Drive. Great Eastern Hwy through to Midland. Curtin to Fremantle on Canning Hwy. Wanneroo Rd from Wangara.to city. Stirling station to Karrinyup and up Marmion Ave. Fremantle to Coogee to Cockburn (or extend rail from Freo). We need major shopping centres like Karrinyup and Morley to city and other transport connected with a fast moving transport means. Express lanes through traffic lights. Its really critical with the development to the north and Charles St and Alexander Dr increasingly becoming a carpark, thereby making public transport unattractive. Its not going away. Currently, Morley to the UWA and hospitals is very successful. But how can services from other routes to the north be able to make the journey on this type of transport, driving through the city or outskirts of CBD before ending up at UWA and hsopital precinct...
I feel this video did not illustrate why trackless tram technology is superior to the light rail technology used in, for example, Gold Coast or Canberra. Rail is inherently more efficient due to it being metal on metal, instead of rubber tyres on road. The tyres also pollute due to the rubber particles that get spread into the air. Road pollution is a growing problem across the world, it's not just exhaust from engines, even electric vehicles are bad for the environment. You know what isn't bad for the environment? Electric rail transport. Rail is also faster, more reliable, and has a significantly larger economic impact over its lifespan compared to rubber tyre transport like BRTs and busways which is what trackless trams are. It seems all of these local and state governments are too selfish to spend the money needed to fix our car-dependant American style suburban cities. But are happy to spend money on new highways and car parks. We need to spend hundreds of billions redeveloping all metropolitan areas to follow the same logic that European cities use. Medium density development, lots of parkland, shops beneath apartments, trams and trains everywhere.
Yes, we in Europe expanded our suburban lifestyle a 100 years ago by colonizing Oceania@@jukio02 But we keep realizing our suburbs become independent and no longer part of Europe. It's now so bad even the UK left. Please send help!!! We only know how to invent pedestrian friendly and public transport environments.
@@jukio02 interested to hear where in Europe is adopting American Burbs on a wide scale basis... Most of the countries I visit are great examples of good Urbanisation with cities banning cars in the centre's rather than building for them.
Untuk berangkat Upacara dari jakarta ke IKN a orng sekitar (Rp.2.000.000 x 2 =4.000.000) + hotel 1 hari Rp900.000,- maka jika peserta 2.000 org = Rp. 9.800.000.000,- Ini hanya untuk Transport dan hotel...belum transport lokal dan makan.
Great video, and I really hope these projects go well. Perth DESPERATELY needs better transit solutions in the inner ring, and the quadrants that arent serviced by rail.
I don't know anything about trams, I am a 100% cyclist (around 700km / 435miles per month in the city + metropolitan area), but you are truly beautiful, dear Linda. 🥰❤ Have a wonderful life. 😌
Trackless trams are much safer than cycling and you won't feel so tired. If off peak time you will also be able to bring the bike on the trackless tram too.
@@kingcoong honestly, our city is the city of trams, not buses. Let Brisbane keep their title but i will not stand for it (I will lean on the weird butt/back rests found on trams for it)
@@turtlelazers476 The politicians saw the cost-saving benefit of this implementation then all went in like moths towards the light bulb, without proper consideration of the downsides
Trackless trams have a definite future in Australia. LRT does however have the added safety of rail guidance, but the cost of delivery is obviously higher. The rubber tyres on the road is an issue when compared to running on rails.
Each of the different transit options has its pros and cons. There is definitely a role to be played by autonomous rapid transit systems like trackless trams, especially in certain areas of Perth where light or heavy rail aren't viable.
But it's not autonomous, it has a driver! Sure you can call it semi autonomous, but how much more does it cost compared to a 3 carriage electrified articulated bus? Plus you have the added friction and maintenance of road surface and tires... I'm yet to be convinced why you'd choose over BRT or Light rail Aja trams.
There isn't the road space required necessarily. On Alexander driver you don't have enough space on Fitzgerald and then on Alexander you'd rip up many hundreds of trees to create the space for tracks. This was the plan mind you, but they decided to not go with trams and instead increase the train network. But the requirements for transport for certain routes reman.
They shouldn't be called "Tram" because they are clearly buses, but i don't think they are terrible in every situation. They can be a very good upgrade in BRT systems (or how can a good BRT system be in the future) by using a better design, a smooth ride and a more automated technology (when compared with BRT) for cities that don't have the budget for trans but also need good transit solutions. But I understand how people are hating these idea. If they targeted the technology as a improvement of the traditional bus and not a substitute for regular trams the acceptance in the community would be a lot better.
It's a self-deception for those cities, which politicians are still addicted to the so called "car-friendly city" of the 60s and 70s and therefore do not really want a change in the "modal-split" between road traffic and public transport. It's a cramped, technically perverse attempt, to make the Bus "rail-level"... without the benefits of a Tram. Instead of green, grass covered “Turf- Tracks” in the middle of streets, within green belts or parks, those bus lanes just expand the asphalt deserts in our cities, even more. High capacity and there- fore cost-effectiveness, such as train formation in units (multiple-traction) for Trams, are equally not possible. Neither does the shared use of railway lines in mixed traffic, like in Karlsruhe (GER) or in Manchester (GB). This FAKE of a Tram is just a longer Bus. And our citizens still see it as a “bigger car” and therefore not as an attractive competitor TO the car ... That's the whole story about, if we really want a true paradigm shift in our cities ! ☝️🧐 🇩🇪
@thevannmann wheel covers don't make it better looking, just make it harder to maintain. Ride quality will depend on the road surface. And we should be building buses in Australia, not importing fully completed units from China.
@@bakasheru Perth has a very good bus system and rail system. But increasingly there are large areas that require a form of transport that is more than just buses for long journey and to travel quickly. Melbourne is a different type of city with transport and the shape of city is different and enables more rail lines that service more of the city. In Perth if we keep having more rails then it will mean a lot more tunnelling through suburban areas and the costs just don't stack up. The return isn't there.
