The Tragic Downfall of the Battlefield Franchise 

Great video man! And screw you for making me upset! I miss BF3 🥹

You don't have anything to apologize for. You made a great video. There's no way to please everyone.

not sure if i missed it, but bf4 had much more "detail map design" that convinced you you are in a battefiled, where as BF2042 had unbelievably sterile maps (supposedly in an utopic future). Also, i see way more "meaningful" building destruction in BF4 than in BF2042. First and last pre-order for me for sure. And I really need conving to go back to BF. I rather play BF4 while i still can.

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No worries man! Great video. RU-vid seldom has people making quality gaming content like you did with this video. And I happen to agree with you completely in you overall analysis. I hadn't even thought about what felt different between Battlefield 3 and 4, but seeing your video made me remember how much I loved BF3. Found this video because I was looking for what BF game to play in 2024, and you really made me dodge some bullets (no pun intended). So I just bought BF 1 :)

Too right

And bf4

Close quarters was such a special dlc for me poured so many hours into that map pack alone

My best TDM record, going up to 300, was 95-29. God I miss that game.

No sorry kids, you had to be there for bf1942. BF3 was when they started to pivot the series to be a direct competitor to CoD and every other multiplayer FPS on the market. People were stoked for BF3 because it was a return to a classic especially in light to some of the things in MW2 (eg dedicated servers, laying off the original devs of CoD4) rather than new innovation. BF1942 and it’s mod, desert combat, are pretty janky but really were something new. It really felt like a sandbox to play in rather than the tailored and managed experience designed to hook even the most ADHD addled brain so they can get the largest market share.

Luckily there’s still enough players to continue playing the game :,)

at the time if felt 5-7 years ahead of it's time. Now it seems like it was ahead for an undefined period since the industry took a nose dive and everything from 10-15 years ago feels like a groundbreaking masterpiece.

@@kirillholt2329 Thats why BF3, Black Ops 1 & 2 and Battlefield 1 are gaining more players now. Nobody wants to play these 100mph run and gun sweat simulators. We just want classic action.

@@kirillholt2329 BF3 is what killed the franchise. Run n gun mindless cod style gameplay. small maps, and a shit ton of features cut from BF2. What is it ahead of its time exactly? Its just cod with vehicles. No real battlefield fan liked it. Of course it got a lot of sales from cod fanboys who have no concept of teamplay.

It really was one of those "you had to be there" games

They absolutely are arrogant. It's probably why 2042 doesnt get the changes it needs because the devs are too stubborn and arrogant to accept player feedback.

@@snzrIt's painfully evident that they don't play their own game either

All the long time devs left DICE within a few months after BatV's release - ever since then it's been constant screw ups.

how have they fought against the community with 2042. Say what you want about 2042 but almost every update has been made to specifically address community complaints. You got better maps, balancing changes, spread changes, classes, etc.

To be fair, I think that was EA who said, “Don’t like it? Don’t buy it!” to which Battlefield fans said, “Sure thing!”

Pretty much yeah lol

They don't care about copies sold or even microtransactions anymore, all they care is ESG scores

@@danielaponte4054 lmao

They're just being innovative. Trying to make bad games now instead of good ones is just a change of their formula.

They are the devs that turned it into slop though. A lot of devs who are working with the frostbite engine now have no idea what they’re doing with it. It’s why 2042 development has been so slow.

yea the old dev team is long gone

​@@nitroxylictv The Old Battlefield devs left to form Embark Studios (makers of The Finals), Fall Damage Studios, Time to Kill Games, and a few others.

Lmao do you think studios hire people who went to school? Most of the college educated coworkers I've worked with don't last long, or they are completely clueless and just lost, not knowing how to do the most basic of things... they do know all the useless terminology, however.

@@mitri5389 Because college students come out having this inflated ego and arrogance and likely haven't worked at all in the field they're trying to enter and it's a shame that they ruin the perception for everyone else. I'm facing the same thing in culinary school lol

They were top tier, unfortunately we’ll never see that kind of quality again :/

I still play bf4 weekly. Servers are full

Are you serious? BF3 campaign was notoriously bad, and even BF4, while better, was still pretty mediocre. Honestly only the Bad Company’s had good campaigns. But that’s okay, because BF3 is still my favorite in the series (although I love them all, from 1942 up till BF 1)

@@UnchainedEruptionBF3 had a great campaign wdym?

@@UnchainedEruptionwhat are you talking about campaign you sound like a clown these are S tier multiplayer games

Beautiful game that created beautiful memories, this was me for Battlefield 3!

Same and I still do

The dreadnoughts were delicious!

Me too man

Bf1 was another shitty game tbh

I was the same with BF3. I have nearly 3K hours across Xbox and PC, and I loved every moment of it.

from BF42 till BF3 (didn't play much of BF2 cause i was mostly playing Americas Army V1.65 until 2.85, then it turned to crap), i would have put an easy 10,000 hours into it [edit - BF3](same with AA), weekdays work, get home by 4pm game til 5:30AM, up at 7:30 work repeat till the weekend, then sat 24hours, sunday 18hours, did that for 2.5 years; Had jobs that were only 4 days; Starsiege Tribes, first time i played that it was a long weekend, so i played for 72 hour straight (minus food, toilet, coffee/water), i've been gaming for 26 years... Was really into Vietnam back in the day, so BF Vietnam and BC Vietnam were my jam... My reaction times are too slow now for FPS MP, playing Half-Life, the long dark, stranded deep, Generation Zero, homeworld and WH40k DoW1, trying to get back into Elite dangerous sigh atm, ...

Absolutely! Had so much fun with bfbc2, bf3, and definitely bf4. It's always been a blast and had at least 1k hours in each.

Same, BF3 looked amazing but didn't run as good as BF4 after its updates and BF4 map packs were a chiefs kiss with the remastered maps.

I'd still be playing but unfortunately it's showing it's age.

Haha! At least you still get to play the game. Meanwhile Rockstar literally scammed gamers by releasing individual re masters of GTA 3, Vice City, and SA only to say fuck people who only got *one* title alone and RE-RELEASE the trilogy collection like that didn't fucking happen.

This is why I haven't bought a new game at launch since BF3

Ya I bought a PS5 just for BF 2042 release. Just to buy for a game that was unplayable. The game is still terrible

My buddy booted the game up day 1 on his pc a 2080 super and an 8 core processor, runs every other game like a champ. we were so excited to play until we were met with an unplayable lagtastic ugly mess even on potato low settings. Checked all drivers of course that had to be the issue nope everything was updated. Rebooted hopped in a different game nope. Total time in game…less than 15 minutes before we requested a refund.

@@LayzeeJay ya PlayStation honored refunds too because it was unplayable. The PlayStation store even took it off to buy for awhile. Pathetic. That franchise is done. Trust me, the next one will suck too. I just tried their free trial just for the hell of it. Ya they fixed a lot of the issues, took them two years, but the maps are still trash, and so is the game

Me too. The ending message was just something I wanted to say because it’s how I felt with Battlefield. I also wanted to point out that the message wasn’t just for Battlefield, it’s for other games and franchises too.

Battlefield won't comeback because Dice quit. They're at Embark now.

You definitely didn't do BF4's comeback justice. They overhauled so much that I can't fit it here.

@@pleasureslave6473 you’re absolutely right, but I was worried the video would get too long and it would discourage people from watching. Now that I think about it, I should’ve just spoke about it! 🙃

It's kinda sad because it's not only Battlefield that is like this. Almost everything in life works that way. Enjoy the things you enjoy for the time you can until they are over...

At the time I didn’t think it was necessary because of how old the games were. But now the videos out and I saw someone actually comment on that, I realised I should’ve just done it. RIP to those games 🪦

@@snzr yea, I get that. At least I managed to 100% the main game beforehand

@@snzr my question remains, about the reason as to why? My thought, is so older fans come to newer or something. Also sweet baby inc, has creativd control and leading design for the games, so that's something

EA is just pure greed. Obviously keeping the older games running costs them money and if they're not making profits from it, just kill it. Which is worrying because BF3 could be next. And that game is on life support. Essentially dead on PC and on console.@@littlegamingj2003

@@snzr yea, I wish they actually give a damn, and be genuine. And it's surprising to me that something old as cod 4 still running.

I heard about those kinda servers on Xbox. Jets were so hard back then, I actually respected people who were insane in jets, it’s really hard to master!

@@snzr They were actually much easier than they are now, jets are nerfed to the ground and near-useless in 2042. In BF3 a good jet pilot would single-handedly kill every vehicle on the enemy team

I'm still friends with someone I met in BF3 to this day. We were both 14-15 years old at the time. We had sniper duals on Caspian Border. After years of being friends, we still keep in touch. We call each other every once in a while to catch up.

Tried playing it the other day, it broke my heart to see 'kicked by punkbuster' over and over again. Loved that game on xbox

Keep playin please 🙏🫡

Still playing it with friend nice to just relax and play vehicles or kill and annoy enemy tryhard players

Yeah still playin and still enjoying! It’s good to come back after a while again, every time!

BF3!

I agree with this statement 100% It’s sad I just want a fun multiplayer shooter again

It is weird as fuck to hear people call those ones nostalgic. I can understand people feeling that way about BF 1942 and BF 2, but BC2 and 3? Like, those are the new ones to me lol. That’s Frostbite era, with its amazing graphics, War Tapes sound, and destruction.

@@UnchainedEruptionshut up

Exactly how I was at first ☹️

Playing battlfiekd 2042 after playing battfield 1 is just a sad comparisson

BF1 is trash too though and also feels nothing like the good battlefield games. Even 2042 is better than that

@@HugoStiglitz88no BF1 is a better game than 2042. Even BF5 is better than 2042

Wouldn’t be such a bad idea. A nice bridge to bridge the gap for the new 2025 game!

Do you really trust them to do that?

They would fuck it up. And plus people still play BF3

If they would remaster it, it would be bad. Diversty BS, gender BS, pol. correctness BS, Skin BS and Challanges BS. Keep BF3 as a good game in your mind.

They did, Back to Basics mode. It was incredible. Standard rifles and map weapons only. In hardcore with no hud it was insane. Trench whistles blaring, mass bayonet charges with the explosions from the field guns all around. Literal chills.

​@@nicsuggitt176I never even knew this game mode exists because it's so unpopular it's never in any server let alone years after launch :(

I mean there were machine guns in WW1 actually plenty. Many were used near the end of the war like the BAR but guns like the Chauchat, Lewis Gun, Maxim gun, Hotchkiss, etc. Realistically the only guns that shouldnt be there are sub machine guns.

The amount of crazy mods for singleplayer still blows my mind

@@garrettjones9549 They made a complete Star Wars game out of BF 1942.

BF2 is something special

BF2 is where the series ACTUALLY peaked, only real ones will understand modern combat + bad company were a step in the wrong direction that all of the later games followed

Maybe it’s time to quit gaming hahaha No I’m just kidding. As a console player this sucks a lot but on pc you have sooo many alternatives, that’s crazy!

​@@venjo639 Ehhh I wouldn't quit console entirely tbh, the Japanese developers like FromSoft, Nintendo, even Capcom, Sega and Square Enix still pump out amazing titles like Street Fighter 6, Armored Core 6, Tears Of The Kingdom, FF16 and the 7 Remakes and the Yakuza series, there's also the indie devs and occasionally you'll get the multiplayer games that are actually fun like Helldivers or The Finals

BF3’s gameplay was unmatched

I gotta say BF2 and BF1 made me feel like I was in an actual war

Every battlefield up from 3 to 5 felt somewhat like a war 2042 felt like a generic video game shooter

Soon BF3 is banned by asian nations and in the west.

I’d argue it IS brilliant, most people playing it have put in like hundreds of hours into it it me included, it may not be as great as bf1 but bfv is still very fun you know even if it has its problems and even if it wasn’t finished, it’s a banger game that a lot of people enjoy, I know this because I’m on the game a lot and I do see a lot of people on it lol, most of them have been playing the game for a while now to, again sure it may not be as great as bf1 but the servers on the game are still very much active and I will honestly say I do kinda prefer the gunplay in bfv over the majority of the other battlefield games Specifically talking about the newest bf5 build, pacific war and all, if you mean launch I can’t really state anything about that I never really played it on launch, and also assuming by BatV you mean bfv lol

I find it quite sad that we never got see what it could have become.

​@@bluscout1857brooo same

They should have continued improving BF5 rather than launch BF2042. Bring in Russian factions, Italian Campaigns and add famous battles etc. It could have been great.

The times when we were excited for new updates and expansions. Now it’s just whatever.

Same bro. Same.

Companies hire incompetent people who barely get any work done and who can be paid less, the drop in quality is not surprising whatsoever.

@@dkkanofkash8798 Far from surprising tbh. It’s a damn shame.

MechWarrior2 was cool..........

Battlebit brought that fun sandbox experience back to the formula, something the newer games lacked. That’s one of the reasons why I think it did so well for a while.

@@snzr i think i also just love how huge scale it is and the prox chat. It adds a feeling of “this really is a huge scale war” Some parts will be frontlines with constant gunfire, explosions, and screaming of the injured, the other will be a few snipes all huddled together chilling and chatting, up in the sky a bunch of guys chatting before the heli drops em off into enemy lines, 2 guys going around like partner’s picking each other up when the other falls to keep pushing through a war too big for them, and another group acting like seal team 6 as they go into the enemy base, and somewhere you have a maniac playing freebird as he takes down a tank single handedly with 8 bundles of c4. Thats what battlebit feels like. Battlefield never got close to that.

@@snzr i think its only dying as a game since the people who play it too long get too tactical about it, and get bored, and finally leave. Games at abt 3k players now so its kinda dead in the water. But it was great.

epic, only reached 247, though i was playing on U.S servers with a ping of 350-500( long way from Australia ;D )....

AGREED.

Nothing is cooler than last stands and tanks. A formula that always hits

Nah the ending sucked it should've been Mueller telling the others and fighting the Americans till he dies so that his crew can retreat.

@@regularguy2807 you missed the point then. By the end of the war they’ve seen thru the lies of the Nazi Party. They just bombed the bridge with them on it and stranded them behind enemy lines. They hung his young loader for deserting when he was doing his duty, a boy way too young to fight. He saw the civilians dying by the hundreds in cologne, despite the military claiming all of them had been evac’d. Müller realized that they meant nothing to the regime they fought and died for. He lost his faith in his country, hence why he discarded his iron cross. There is no retreat, they are quite literally stranded and surrounded.

What lies, and he understood that he is nothing in army with millions of soldiers? No shit i dont understand endind​@@joshazie5296

Exactly that. It’s really simple to do well with the next game. The game needs exactly what you just said, as well as load of day one content.

Pretty sure if all else fails and they just can’t for the life of themselves think of anything new they could probably remaster the old games

Add a captivating and motivating Progression and I'm all sold 😍💯

Nope, thats not only EA that would be to easy. Dice is completly out of touch and has no good devs anymore. They are all long gone and they are working on other project outside of Dice

I wasn't aware of that. That makes a lot of sense. Guess that's what they get for chasing trends 💀

@snzr Yup, to make it worse with Hazard Zones fail too 💀💀. I remember seeing Tom Henderson tweet about it, DICE scrapped and re built 2042 over a year into development or something.

I love the service star system, I have not forgotten it. I mentioned it in newer videos that it’s something DICE need to bring back with leaderboards. I think T1 system was good because it rewards free skins, so why not have both? 😀

I never got to play that one! I’m sure it was great! Thanks for watching

Yeah I feel the same. BF1 beat CoD IW in 2016, then in 2019 things changed and CoD MW beat BF5 in pretty much everything. Now they both fail, MW3 is a failure and BF2042 is boring and unplayable. I just hope they get it together, but so much talent left BF recently.

​@@j.d.s.8132 Microsoft bought Activision and I'm hoping Activision new corporate lords will make them better games.

Thanks mate, I really appreciate that!

I was referring to the first beta, I’m pretty sure that one only had downtown.

@@snzr Ah, the closed one. Never played that one so you're probably right.

It had more to do with the entire vibe of the game rather then historical inaccuracies. A game doesn't need to be and honestly can't be 100% historically accurate. And that's fine. As long as the vibe and feel is right. In bf1, the vibe was just right. In bf5, it wasn't.

@@direct2397 bf1 had nothing to do with ww1. It was a ww2 shooter wearing a ww1 skin

@@SleepySoviet and you completely missed my point. Yes it was far from a authentic ww1 experience like beyond the wire or isonzo. But again, the vibe was right. The music. Ambience, colour patterns, art style everything came together to create a incredible feel. Bf5 failed to do that. Bf5 wasn't a bad game. But it just didn't have a vibe at all. It was just a game nothing more nothing less.

Great game for the time!

Those were the days my man!!!

Respect brother, you’re an OG!

Once the next games out and it’s good, we’ll all forget about 2042!

Same, battlefield 3 is GOATED 🐐

i used to have the discs from BF1942 till BF3 after what they did to BF5 i threw them out never to touch BF again (miss the Vietnam editions, BC2 and BF3 alot)...

Thanks for watching, the song is called Aquarium by Casino Versus Japan

@@snzr thanks! Watched some of your other videos, you're a very talented player which is kinda rare for youtubers who do essays like you. Looking forward for more videos!

Cheers mate!@@Vulmen311

Agreed, I personally really enjoyed what that game had to offer and the infantry experience was very unique.

Cheers man, I appreciate that

Thanks for watching, I’ll try to make more videos like this in the future!

That’s very true, I think Infinite Warfare releases that year and nobody cared for it. Thanks for watching I hoped you enjoyed it!

Same man! I absolutely love the Battlefield formula, nothing is quite like it. The franchise has to come back from this!

@@snzr exactly man, honestly, no other game can capture the atmosphere and rock paper scissors formula as good as dice did, even battlefield v had that dna that made me sink hundreds of hours despite all its flaws, 2042 lacks that dna i feel, praying it comes back

Thank you! And I hope everyone feels the same. We need to be vocal as much as we can in hope that the franchise will change, otherwise it’s doomed.

Played since BF1942 days, really hooked since BF Vietnam till BF3, then i was over it.

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the sub

Yeah BFV was such a waste of time in the games franchise.

Thanks mate!

I think I didn’t need to. Everyone knows how incredible it was, and I didnt want the video to be longer than it already was because I was afraid this would discourage people from watching jt

B-but muh black female snipers in the Marine Corps!

@@echodelta2172as long as we have ____ admirals.... we good brother

Very true, they missed out.