Archer's recommendation for more weapons and the new captain be ready to use them always struck me as tragic. Archer was not a military man, he didnt want to be military, he didnt sign up for military. He wanted to be an explorer, a discoverer, and a pathfinder for humanity. Instead, he increasingly found himself in combat and sending people to die. He was jaded, angry, and depressed.
Experience will almost always let you know that your high ideals are bs. The real world, or galaxy, is mean, nasty, and unforgiving. Yes, they needed better offense and defense. Archer learned that you must be prepared. Pacifists are often the first to die.
Still though.......who goes out to explore without the most basic of defense functions? NX-01 didn't even have phasers, sorry "Pulse cannons", operational when they first launched.
Not all the crew were killed in the vortices, one engineer survived, he was mid transport when the intense energy hit the ship, his transporter beam rematerialised in an alternate universe. A universe that was similar but diverged in the timeline from around the 1990s, he struggled with the loss of his crew mates, with never being able to return to his family or to his home, as he knew it. He almost gave up being enlisted but he pulled through, went into command, made a new home, new friends and one day became the captain of a ship called the Orville. It's 100% cannon
I just realized that Enterprise was the first shuttle, and Columbia was the second, Enterprise was retried after the test flights, while Columbia didn't make it to retirement....
@@atticstattic if I remember correctly the plan was to use Enterprise for testing, and then re-fit it into a full orbiter, however the cost turned out to be way higher than estimated so they retired it.
@webduelist If I am remembering correctly, and, as an aside, James Doohan gave a presentation about this at the U of I Chicago around 1977 - there were no plans beyond using _Enterprise_ for testing the 747 transport and its glide/landings. If intended for space, why not simply build it that way from the start.
@@webduelist The first orbital capable shuttle was supposed to be named Enterprise (as a direct result of TOS), and the test shuttlewas going to be named Columbia. But there was public confusion (people didn't realize that the first shuttle wasn't going to be going to space, ever), leading to a large public outcry by Trek fans, leading to the names being switched.
Interesting! I owned an X-BOX 360 game called- Star Trek: Legacy In that game, it is revealed that it was V'GER who created the Borg in order to assist it in completing its mission! To learn, or "Assimilate" all there is to know and gave them the autonomy to operate and complete their objective! Eventually, V'GER became self-aware and realized that it needed to evolve. Which is when it returned to earth, to "join with the creator.". Once V'GER accomplished that, it no longer needed the Borg. But it didn't shut them down before joining with the "creator" a.k.a. Captain Decker. As a result, the borg continued to assimilate until they grew beyond the original programming. Unfortunately, they didn't take a big step away from the original programming. They just adopted a new reason for assimilation. The pursuit of perfection!
you could not blame them for creation of borg,since the celliar created unknowingly a timeloop,leading always to the big issue that displaced that one city into the past,with just the right kind of psychopath on it. It had always to happen. which makes it even more tragic as it already is. (awesome story btw, my favorit borg origin story of all time)
I personally believe that Borg was just a tool of greater force. What was using Federations for own means (totally not robot squids from future). For reminder Gainan stated that Borg behavior toward Earth was irregular. Borg usually send thousands Cubes to ensure total assimilation of the target. But in case of Earth ships were send one by one. If you think about it if not Wolf 359, Earth would be vastly unprepared for Dominion War. And they did not learn they lesson where Starfleet was almost wiped by alien virus. But they did get the point after Borg attacked them during Fleet Day and so they start dispersing own forces more carefully. Same First Contact actually has impact on the Cochrane, who take inspiration seeing Sovereign in the sky. So random Borg emergency signal probably was not the cause of issue. It was part of the greater plan.
Technically they did but the only reason Borg knew of humanity in the 21st. Century was that when Picard blue up the escape sphere he created a chicken egg loop the Borg in archer time were able to send a message using the 24th century nano tech so Borg were already heading toward earth in archer time
The Caeliar created their own time loop that caused their own destruction as it were which lead to the creation of the Borg and the ultimate end of the Columbia. I'd hazard a guess that Columbia's presence probably wouldn't have changed things much, with the exception of the end of the Borg.
The Star Trek Destiny novels are a MUST read. Spoilers: It was Columbia crew members who were the first Borg with one of them being "occupied" by a Caeliar who went on to be the Queen.
I always thought when Paramount made Star Trek: Beyond. They missed a way of further tying in that the Kelvin timeline (especially with Leonard Nimoy having passed away) as an offshoot of the Prime timeline. Instead of the Kelvin timeline's Enterprise 1701 crew finding the Franklin they could have found the Columbia instead.
That would have been cool. I wonder if copyright restrictions were part of the reason why they didn't use the columbia. The Kelvin USS Enterprise had to look different from the TOS one because of copyright restrictions. Since the Columbia existed before the Kelvin Timeline, it should look the same, but copyright restrictions will surely apply to it.
Oops .... i *"accidently"* created the Borg ..... silly me!!😎😎 Thank you for another great video, Lt Cmd Adam. Your injection of humour makes it much more enjoyable. 💪
one of the most underrated nx class vessels, it never got to get its refit. The neat thing is that the nx refit was named after the Columbia after it was lost
So, a revolt aboard an early Starfleet Ship created a butterfly effect which created the Borg? There's an irony. I had a feeling something bad would happen to Columbia in the series because of what happened to the real life space shuttle Columbia, but at least it has a good story to it.
Unfortunately Enterprise was caned after the war. Though considering that according to Beta canon books, holo-recording from show finale was fake. I do believe that it actually fall in temporal anomaly. Speaking of that Archer Drive was notorious for causing those and I believe the same happen with Columbia. And crew only assumed it was due to dilatation. After all similar incidents happen with Ceres class SS Bonaventure and Freedom class NX Franklin. So there was a pattern. It also would explain why Vulcans agree to share own classified Warp 7 drive. To rid off Henry Archer Engines.
From what I remembered about Star Trek Enterprise's Series Finale, the final episode Riker fast-forwarded to their tenth year as the show was terminated on Season Four and they skipped 6 whole seasons to the point when Archer signed the charter. The non-canon books wrote two stories. The Romulans made it to Earth to destroy Starbase One and Earth, Columbia being a victim of that incident blowing up. The second one said they disappeared in Tau Ceti like the Bermuda Triangle and wound up in the Gamma Quadrant buried on a desert with all lives lost.
Are there any Starfleet ships named Titanic? I heard there were was one named Challenger and another the Titan. I guess the ship named never read "The Wreck of the Titan" or "Futilty" by Morgan Robertson. Must be bad luck to name ships after those who suffered disasters , including the Space Shuttle Columbia and the submersible Titan who took 5 passengers to visit the RMS Titanic.
@virginiaconnor8350 The Titan was an expected disaster for me. The instant I heard that the main hull was carbon fiber, I expected some form of critical failure. I pity the poor souls lost, but I don't think you should let events of the modern world tinge how you see the naming conventions in Trek.
The NX class was such a great theatrical design and addition to Trek. Loved it when the Enterprise & the Columbia vertreped Trip from Columbia back onto Enterprise.🖖🏽
I smiled as soon as I heard the disclaimer. THIS was going to be a good video concerning the Columbia. 🖖Live long and prosper Trek Central. This is the video that I hit the subscribe button on...
I choose to ignore non-canon for some of these points. By tying Columbia to the creation and destruction of the Borg you make the Star Trek Galaxy WAY smaller whilst making the story unrealistically complicated. It's just kinda shoddy writing imo.
I have to agree. I don't like the idea everything has to be linked to everything. Columbia shouldn't have been involved with the creation of Borg at all. It went missing the end. Bad writing/lack original ideas how i felt too.
@Dixa1 The story doesn't contradict that. In fact it explicitly mentions a small group of Columbia survivors and Caeliar being sent back in time several thousand years and that's where they somewhat accidentally create the first drones. The video didn't go into that as he said - its for another time
@blackyvertigo Columbia was sent waaaay back in time, resulting in the surviving crewmembers being forced (against their will) to fuse with the Caeliar who had been sent back with them. The Borg were born when the fused entities assimilated the inhabitants of the planet they were on. The Caeliar use Omega Particles as a power source, hence the Borgs interest in Omega.
I really liked the Destiny Trilogy. Then again I read a lot of the books so I was already invested in USS Titan and other post-Nemesis stuff I just thought "Finally, we've put the Borg to bed. No more '... But one survived, and adapted' shenanigans". I mean, they had the deactivated defeated Cube itself become sentient then Janeway getting assimilated in another book! Also bear in mind the Shatner-verse Borg origin world, that assimilated Voyager probe for TOS movie, with a massive circuit breaker that turned off every Borg
The ST Destiny books are the only ones I've read and they were great. I'm planning on reading the ones after it called Typhoon Expanse or something like that. Happy to have had my memory refreshed listening to this.
Very cool to see coverage of some of that alternate pre-Kurtzman novel material. I remember reading the Destiny books years ago. Still have the all-in-one trilogy compilation they put out. It was a fun enough story. Always cool to see those characters as their lives continue on, like Captain Dax.
I've never seen the Star trek Enterprise episodes with the Columbia, but I've read the 3 novels had the journey that Capt. Hernandez took with the Caeller and involving the Borg war.these were great novels.
Talk about temporal loops…The first NASA Shuttle was named ‘Enterprise’ after the USS Enterprise, the next ships Columbia etc…in a strange way, without NCC 1701, there would be no NX-01 or Columbia. I guess Shatner will take credit for that 😂
I have long wished that the Destiny trilogy would have been turned into a Trek movie or mini-series. Then the story would have become cannon. I'm sure some adjustments to the story would have been needed due to real world considerations. Still, the basic plot and story of Destiny is quite impressive. In my opinion, those are still the best Star Trek novels.
Listening and watching the latter part of the video in regards of the rediscovery of the NX-02 Columbia, it would've made a great couple of Episodes for "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" to have been aired. It's too bad it wasn't done or explored. Perhaps it could be done in the form of a "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" movie that could be released.
That would have been really cool to see both movie wise and show wise but, i think you forgot Star Trek Deep Space Nine was create before Start Trek Enterprise was even thought on a piece of paper as the info in the show was create after DS9 Finish airing, that would have been alot of gaps to fill with no back story. Take Star wars episode 4 it came before the prequels and none of us at the time would have though Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker was the same until you got the back story
@@Criptid Please forgive me for wanting to see a potential good movie or series of "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" Episodes being made. However, I did get a "Loved Comment" from the poster of the video. That's a 'Consolation Prize' for me.
I meant bo disrespect i would also love to see that movie or show I just pointes out the fact that DS9 came before Enterprise so the elements of a movie or episode wouldnt make sense in that time without an explanation
OK, New to the channel, and happy to be here! That was interesting and well told, AND I am happy to get the recommendation on a new trilogy. I have heard so many mixed things about this or that Star Trek book covering years of them, I just, er, wrote them off.
Thanks for relating this really interesting story of the NX-02 USS Colombia. I think it falls into the bracket of those lost 22nd-century shops, such the USS Archon, USS Essex, USS Franklin, etc. Not sure about Starfleet inadvertently creating the Birg, though. I think the Borg fit better with a much longer entrenched history from with the Delta Quadrant. Good stuff, though. Worth revisiting ST:VOY. 👍🏾
"I have sworn eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." From the bridge plaque of the USS Yamato NCC-71807. United Federation of Planets
Nice job. I'm a huge Star Trek fan and was curious about the NX-02 Columbia. I would have liked to see Columbia's delightfully girl-ish captain serve as an officer under Archer to battle aliens and T'Pol for Archer's attention. She reminds me of Julie McCoy, Cruise Director of the Love Boat.
If I remember right, there was an episode where Borg were found on earth centuries before, as they crashed in the Antarctica ice, then found by 2155 eara scientists, so your train of thought of the Federation creating their own enemy is off a bit. As the Borg queen explained in the movie First contact.
The Borg were created centuries prior, we didn't explain in this video as its a whole other topic, but the caeliar and humans went through a vortex which sent them back in time to the delta quadrant. Those Borg found in the artic was from the Borg Sphere that the Enterprise-E blew up in orbit of Earth in First Contact - Dom
I find it interesting now, where you had the Klingons basically unloading on an unprotected Earth and juxtapose that with the end of Picard with Space Dock being a beast and protecting the Earth from the most advanced Fleet in the Galaxy.
Wow that was fast the Ensign at the helm of Columbia just got promoted to Lieutenant before they even left space dock. Forever Ensign Harry Kim would certainly be jealous.
I guess she could have taken Archer's advice. But that would have meant listening to someone who was experienced with the issue they were warning her about.
In the Star Trek: Destiny novels, it is revealed that they technically did. The surviving NX-02 crew members that travelled back in time with the Caeliar were absorbed by the last surviving Caeliar, the now-degenerate Sedin. This confirmed the Borg originated from the planet Arehaz. So yes, they would be active in the 17th Century, but there creation came about much, much earlier :) - Jack
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and form on this format and the subject matter provided on the NX-02 Columbia and all of Her duties and missions that she preformed till the time of her disappearance and then being found crashed landed in the Gama quadrant in 2373 by the U.S.S. Defiant!,👌.
Whoa! At 6:04 is that Babylon 5? I never realized that the Vorlons, Shadows, Minbari, Centauri, Narn, or League of Non-Aligned Worlds were in Star Trek!
At 6:10, that is the USS Frankilin from the Adramverse. And it was the Romulans from Picard series that created the Borg, but because of that battle, maybe they were both to blame.
I watched most of this show when it first aired but haven't seen it in years. Been tempted to buy the series but I still haven't watched "Andromeda" in the boxed set which was also done by Roddenberry.
I personally don't count Enterprise as cannon, as it outright contradicts facts giving in the The Original Series and TNG; such as the Romulans didn't have warp tech till they stole it from the federation. But in Enterprise they have warp 5 ships, and were trying to make a warp 7 ship.
That's because the Columbia crew and the Caeliar were sent back even further to the year 4527 B.C.E. in Destiny Book III: Lost Souls. The Borg were created by a botched merging between the two groups. Sort of like the predestination paradox that Dulmer and Lucsly described in DS9's "Trials and Tribble-ations." It sounds confusing, but it works out when you think it through. 🖖😎👍
@@MyBretski That was likely guesswork on her part, based on how incredibly advanced they were. Then again, she admitted that she wasn't at her homework when it was attacked, so it's unlikely that she would have any firsthand knowledge of them. Besides, the Borg were never especially forthcoming when it came to their origins, beyond what little the Queen revealed to Data in First Contact. 🖖😎👍
Bruh you can not just start with “a city got blown up” say “a series of events” and then end with “the star went supernova” that’s only allowed in warhammer 40k
The Columbia had it pretty bad. From the telepresence unit taking the ship to the engine damage to the mutiny ect. When aventine found her she was in impossible shape.
I have a question that might put a few holes in the "Rise of the Borg. If the Borg were in fact created by Starfleet, then why did the Borg try to communicate with their 21st century counterparts during "First Contact"? If the Borg were not created until the late 21st century, then who were the Borg trying to contact during First Contact?
The Borg were created centuries prior, we didn't explain in this video as its a whole other topic, but the caeliar and humans went through a vortex which sent them back in time to the delta quadrant - Dom
Even with warp capable ships, these early Starfleet ships still would've been handicapped by the most notorious and insidious of exploration issues there is, "logistics". Food, water as well as medical supplies and other common needs would have held back the mission. This is before the advent of replicator technology so like the ocean going ships of old starships would still need resupply. Still this period of star trek was those "heady days" of exploration and people just wanted go see what was out there beyond our telescopes.
The NX registration means Navy Experimental... there were more then 3 NX registered starships... the ones you mentioned yes!!! But even the defiant was an NX ship... it's call number being NX - 74205 for example
There's some artwork of Columia crashed on a planet, with the Feds having small craft and people checking it out. I believe the artwork is associated with something other than one of those novels mentioned?
How many borg origin stories are there? The only one I heard of before now was that Voyager 6 landed on a planet that did some stuff with it and then released it back into space, eventually leading it to the events of the motion picture, and the species on that planet eventually became the borg.
Ada Maris, did a good job as Hernadez, I reckon. Didn't figure as much in the series as I thought it should. Even if the series was named Enterprise. Not a bad job, you need to stress down, heaps.
I am a big fan of Larry Niven’s “Known Universe” series of short stories. In the Star Trek cartoon series the Kzinti were introduced by adapting the Niven short story “A Gift of Empire” into the series. The Kzin have a unique anatomy. They have a geodesic bone structure. In WWII there was a bomber that had such a structure, Vickers Wellington. Look at that plane’s structure to get an idea of what it may look like. Niven also had a drawing in one of his shirt story anthologies.
3.37 ,I notice that Columbia's bridge is the same as the bridge of the NX-01 Enterprise except for the 8 total energy pole in the background & the tablet / computer panel pole between the Captain chair & the weapon system chair ,,
As its the same ship, it's expected that the bridge is identical. I would have found it better to not try to change it. Making the bridge an even more lethal space by letting the plasma conducts running through it
Brilliant video. I hate when creators in trek have mine the borg for ideas and the borg were already around before the launch of the nx02. Stupid idea that starfleet created the borg. When the cybermen from classic who have a better backstory you need to stop
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!!!! I wanna know more of the Borg lore you speak of? I had my hunch one the alien ship with Veger (lol) from the motion picture I MUST KNOW MORE!!!!!!
Aside from canon-issues.... The Federation strives for a harmonious Universe in which all species exist and cooperate side-by-side to solve problems together and to work towards a better future united in purpose. The Borg strive for a harmonious Universe in which all species exist and cooperate side-by-side to reach absolute perfection. The Federation and the Borg have only ONE significant difference. And this difference is found in the autonomous individuality each organisation allows their members to have. The Federation strives for the perfect future in harmony by allowing every individual member to be their best self for themselves so that the community may benefit from the individuals best self. To create perfect living conditions so that the individuals can focus their time and energy on being the best they they can be and through that work towards and even better future. The Borg on the other hand unify their individual members into a hive mind, removing individual goals and ambitions in favor of being able to focus all ressources into the final goal of the perfected harmonious collective. The Borg are the natural enemy of the Federation, not because they are so different, but actually because they are too similar with the one dividing point being a the only necessary direct opposite to make an extensive alliance impossible. But one thing remains, the Borg are not the opposite of the Federation. They are a different approach to the same question. It is actually no surprise that something like the Borg could be the result of Federation research and development.
All federation ship could be invincible with the propper management of engineering design teams. If I were in-charge, it would be simple. I would issued the order : "Which ever team is responsible for designing and installing the artificial gravity system, you now are in charge of all systems!". I mean that system NEVER fails. You could find a old, shot up, abandoned, derilect federation ship, and guess what is still working? The artificial gravity.
There's obviously a budgetary reason for that, as production costs skyrocket as you increase the number if zero-g shots. The hand-waving I've heard on this front is that the "grav plating" relies on a heavy rotating disc to generate the field, and that it can continue to spin for several hours without powder as it slowly spins down. But there are a few obvious exceptions to this, such as Archer suddenly losing (and then suddenly regaining) gravity while showering, as well as shooting the klingon ship's central gravity generator in Undiscovered Country. From a purely realistic point of view though, an artificial gravity effect is probably not physically possible in any form we're familiar with.
Physical appearance. Apparently no Human had seen a Romulan until Balance of Terror. That is why the bridge crew was shocked when they appeared on screen. Of course Spock already knew what his cousins looked like.