The Tragic History of NCT Struggling With Sasaengs 

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I was looking for this comment!!! Aaaaaaaah i'm so mad rn

...and still stalking and attending group promotions after making said allegations.....The craziness is unreal.

@Visionbaby don't fight with them it has no point, they aren't going to change their opinions

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@Visionbaby Just don’t fight with them. I get that you wanna protect Lucas and thats okay. But lucas himself would probably say don’t fight with someone because its really just useless. and expect them to go hard on you. If you wanna continue fighting with them then i guess its your choice. But fighting with them online is just rlly stupid & childish. So you brought this upon yourself if your starting to lose your sanity. And in the future, if your getting into fights it will 100% make you lose your sanity. In short, just don’t fight with people when you know its pointless & won’t change their mind.

Couldn’t agree more with the comment it’s beyond ridiculous that SM entertainment doesn’t take the safety of their Artists seriously the continuing problems caused by the Sasaengs is getting worse and worse and the CEO and management needs to tighten security in order to protect their Artists better

because sasaengs spend so much money on their invasive and creepy tactics on the face value they want their idols to be healthy and look appealing as always and be nice pleasant etc but they just want the money still did anyone ask why the bus driver just let those people on their tour bus lol

Let's be realistic here. SM are not the best at a lot of things and have some history. But you can't pin a lot of these things on the company because realistically there is nothing that they can do for them. Phone numbers being sold off or given away are probably coming from individual people (personal "friends" or staff close to them), so what can SM really do about this, realistically? In the case of the tour bus, yes, that was a horrendous breach of privacy but again, it was one single idiot bus driver who let everyone down. This one incident isn't suddenly proof that tour buses are some ridiculous idea when some of the biggest artists of all time have done the same thing for decades. What's the alternative here for SM? Security around them has been decent to the point where fans *usually* can't get too close to them. The only thing that SM might be lacking in is legal action, but then that's an argument within a Korean legal system where this gets messy.

It really is always sm too... for me personally that Video of a taeyeon ssg coming on stage and just taking her with him comes to mind its terrifying and I can't imagine how scary that must be

Even if sm put saesang in jail or increases their security towards their artists IF the saesang has more connections or more wealthy than the company that seasang can have what he/she wants in just a snap we personally don't know some saesangs they could be a chaebol , they could be the Daughter or son of a billionaire we don't know.

Back in the day, they had some that actually would hit fans if they got too weird. I guess since people got too sensitive and cry over everything, they had to stop it

I swear I see you everwhere

Unfortunately normal fans don't know what is difference between picture taken by ssng or not they don't so it's not normal healthy fans fault I mean if they don't know how would they get blamed for it

@@sadiqazia5100 sorry, but that isn't an excuse. sasaeng pictures don't pop out out of nowhere. if you find sasaeng accounts it means you already stan the group and have been interacting with fan accounts for that group. and telling the difference is common sense. I'm a "normal fan" like you say, and I know when the pictures have a lot of zoom or too close to the idol, are taken at airports, at places where pictures aren't allowed, private schedules or from behind a tree, that it was taken by a stalker, it really isn't that hard to tell. plus idols never look happy when they look at sasaeng's cameras. there's no excuse for supporting sasaengs. if you're a kpop fan you can recognize their work easily.

@@ttom8875 well unfortunately you are right in this .. I just said we aren't culprit if we know it's picture from ssng we don't see it but some fans don't know source that's well could be excuse or not I don't know I was just telling you facts cause I'm also nctzen since 2018 dear

@@ttom8875 it's still makes me angry how things are lately but recently Korea announced a law I hope things get better now

It does. I think they need to make dating, having friends, hanging out, living life like a human be, normal. Fans might cry at the start, but they'll get use to it, eventually

That's what i thaught. The proportions are weird. And you can also recognise it by colour because his "hand" looks really white and the cup was also white.

In most of this situations NCT members were using their phones datas or were using it to show something that's why we noticed sassaengs calling them. But the thing is they only call during live to make sure the number is real and then later they call them. Jeno has already changed his numbers multiple times.

@@dncm5405 What I'm saying is that if sasaengs called during a live to make sure the idol's number is real, and the idol's phone didn't ring or the call just didn't get through because the phone was on 'do not disturb' - or the sim wasn't in - then there'd be the possibility that the sasaeng would assume the number they had was wrong - and not call. It's the idols reactions that they want, just any attention. And who knows, if they thought the number they'd bought wasn't real then they'd call out the person that sold it to them, even if it was just amongst other sasaengs. I've only got a basic, cheap smartphone but any numbers that ring that aren't recognised I can immediately block & report. But let's face it, the real reason the information's out there is that company employees - and who knows how many of them are sasaengs themselves or friends of them - are selling the new numbers as soon as idols get them. They should just give their managers number to all the staff that might need to contact them and keep their numbers private!

In some ways the phone issues seem easy to fix. It happens repeatedly though. I have wondered if it is done on purpose, by the company. It creates attention, and it creates sympathy for the idol... Similar to how they parade the idols through the airport, putting them and many others at risk of injury,

@@cameo403 I get your point. About the phone issues, I genuinely think that there must be a way around it, and if it was a problem I was facing then I would have a phone with a sim just for myself, members and family, and another sim for manager and staff. They don't have to have phones on lives, they could use tablets to read and respond to comments. It's not complicated. And I agree about the airport. Not all idols or their company's have enough money to hire private planes (I assume chartering means you don't have to go through public terminals) so they should give them better security. And I've got no doubt that some companies welcome the hysteria, especially with rookie groups but it's got ridiculous, and it's obviously frightening. I love to read and watch what the groups I stan are doing but I don't watch what's been posted by crazy people jumping on idols just to get a photo they can sell or a video they want likes for. A lot of it is business as money can be made by selling info or pictures.The thing is, once the attention for groups has started it just escalates into chaos as they get more popular. There must be a kind of competition between the obsessed 'fans' to see who has done the worst thing. It's frightening.

@Sleepy Sarah. There are ways to secure a phone, these things are just too common with idols. That's why I am starting to think it's a bit suspicious, as to who is behind it. As far as the airport chaos, all the hype is exactly what the companies want. Most countries, other than SKorea would not and do not allow such behaviour of VIPs parading through the airport creating a hazard. Major airports have specific areas for VIPs to prevent chaos. But, as idols are so financially viable to Korea, they encourage and allow them going through the airport.

That's definitely a middle finger. There's no cup visible in that hand to think that

@@LovelyKissess The proportions would be way too off for it to be his middle finger. His hand would be huge and the finger very long. Also you can see a slight colour difference. The "finger" and the part right underneath it look lighter than the rest of his hand and arm. So i really think it's the white cup he was holding earlier.

@@klaramell Well he was t holding the cup in his hand so the only way that's possible is if he took the straw out of the cup. Then what would be the purpose of holding it up? Plus middle fingers are the longest finger and can look longer when all others are down. Guess we'll never truly know

@@LovelyKissess no no, i meant he holds the whole cup in his hand not just the straw. That's what i meant when i said his "hand" looks huge and white, because i think it's actually the cup not the back of his hand.

@@klaramell Oh okay. It doesn't look like a cup to me, but you could also be right

I think just like with other celebrities that if you run in to them on the street by accident being polite and ask “hi I’m a big fan of yours if it’s okay could we take a picture?” And then thank them afterwards. And if they say no just accept it because if they don’t want to that’s okay. Just be polite and don’t fallow them around.

See they have private schedules that they don't share to fans but some psycho fans approach there also

If you meet them respect them and ask if they are comfortable with autograph and photo but remember don't invade them

I think it depends on situation and the body language. Like, there's nothing wrong about asking for picture or signature if they're not in a rush or something.

Thanks, everyone!

Money and illegal methods.

I would love to hear a sasaeng's background for once to see any reason why they would do this. It makes sense if they didn't get any love from family or they are often lonely.

The tes that we're noticing the sassaengs calling the boys are when they're using their phones data therefore the phone is on

seems like it was during 2baddies era when they did the morning fanmeet at music show

they’re idols with busy schedules. what if they need to be reached..?

@@nnn9854 a lot of idols put their phones on do not disturb when they’re doing vlives specifically for the reason of randoms calling them. their staff/team should know when they’re doing a vlive, so they won’t try to reach them during that time/they’re in the room with them lol