EDIT: I made an error stating that T3 did not use discord. He does and has since 2016, but wasn't actively participating in the Prime 1 speedrunning discord at that time. Also, here's some additional context from T3 on being contacted about the bounty: "I was contacted on discord by jacktherigger and several others about the bounty in Feb 2022. I responded, he never replied and ghosted. I run prime for my personal enjoyment not money so I don't really care if he delivers or not." Thank you all for watching!
I'm definitely getting old (or at least more cynical), because I saw "$1000 bounty" and immediately thought it wouldn't be worth it once you converted it to an hourly rate.
@@drowningin If he was just giving a prize if new records were set, then maybe. However these were clearly designed to get people to really work, and work hard, to find new routes or just grind out attempts until all the RNG fell into place.
Bounties aren’t supposed to be a sustainable source of income. This is the same fundamental misunderstanding that happened with the BotW Multiplayer bounty. They’re meant to serve as an extra little bit of motivation for people who are already trying to do something, in this case set a lower and lower record.
maybe he was just "overflowing with money" with the crypto rise, and when the crypto crashed, he lost almost everything and went back to being a pleb xD
This. I don't think he intended to scam people out of their winnings, but because he was a dumbass cryptobro he didn't get out when the going was good and lost all the prize money
I missed this Era of gaming for some reason, so these are always fascinating to me. The Strafe Dashing reminds me so much of Unreal Tournament 2003 / 2004. You could link side hops to double jumps for something very similar and people would be navigating the world sideways.
@@Laerbn I remember when I finally figured out how to use the speed of the strafe jump to get up a level on some of the maps in those little shortcut panels. I never had great aim with snipers, etc. But I could work out the angle on rockets and use them to push my opponents to a dead stop and set them up because the speed of the movement meant I could get in close and be hard to hit. Then I remember being so crushed when I finally go to play Unreal Tournament 3 and they had like this awkward hoverboard thing. The movement in UT04 is still the pinnacle for me in any FPS game.
Been really into Metroid Prime over the last few weeks from doing Multiworld Randomizers to now the Remaster being out. Learned something really cool today and didn't realize there were bounties surrounding this game. Thanks for the great video, Doc :)
And a name like Jacktherigger; I don't know if this person plays a role in the Metroid Speedrunning community. But still a name like that, and to payout in Bitcoin as a choice. Seems fishy.
The theory at the end about Bitcoin would make sense, if only he didn't say that there was an option to be paid in USD. This makes me think he would've, if it was ever real, converted his money to Bitcoin at the time of payout, not prior to anyone completing the bounties.
Me at the beginning of the video: Uhoh, I know where this is going Me 3/4 of the way through the video: Oh, its just that the runner is weird and won't be contactable, that's good that the person isn't going to scam people out of their money like I thought Me at the end of the video: ShockedPIkachu
@@TRR010 he didn't seem to be aware of the bounty or active on the discord discussing it. that would be the most important thing to the overall story, because it might have been different if he was.
Never knew that Metroid Prime speedruns were as crazy to see like this as they are, especially for a game as amazing like this. Wonder if the community will be as eager to try and speedrun the remaster with how good it controls and looks now, or if the OG is just got all the right things going for it that there’s no need
Huh, System Shock 2 music does fit Metroid pretty well, as long as it is used for a more action focused moment. And then Beelzebub from SMT 3? Man this is a treat!
Jack sounds like the crypto bro who got in early, thought nothing would ever happen, make claims, and reality set in. Smarter if he just put the 4k of btc out at the height. But then again imo 99% of cryptro bros are gamble addicts.
Honestly I regret not buy into Crypto because I thought it'd crash into oblivion 10x faster than it did. Could have easily swindled some fools of their money
@@ShadowEclipse777 Eh...I see it more like lottery tickets. That ticket you passed on happened to win a million dollars? I mean yeah that could have been you...but there was a reason you didn't buy it, and if you saw another lottery ticket next time it still wouldn't be smart to get it.
The moral of the story: don't use cryptocurrency. With that out of the way, I shoutouts to the runners who spent so much time and effort to get new records. They're awesome.
I guess jack really should have worded his bounties as "0.016 bitcoin" or whatever it was instead of "$1000". Then he could still pay them out (even though they'd be worth less).
@DoctorSwellman, I love your videos and the way you present them, going over different points, important factors, history, etc. Really, really enjoyable content you make.
Solution: bounties should be paid into a holding immediately where its kept there by a 3rd party company. Easier said than done but that will certainly solve this in the future.
Sorry honey i can't pay the mortgage this month i promised some gamers thousands of dollars in prize money for playing games good lol. Yeah not suprising all be it scummy
What I find interesting about this is the legal aspect of the situation. There is no precedent for something like this. In theory, Jack clearly stating in writing that he will pay a certain amount of money should be binding. However, the nature of a bounty like this means there is no formal contract, meaning Jack may not be required to do anything. It might be a good thing for someone to sue Jack and straighten out these ambiguities.
A couple of issues... first, it sounds like no-one knows Jack's real identity so it's going to be tough to prove any contractual obligations in court. Second - even if a few lines in an anonymous Discord _did_ qualify as a "written agreement", Jack did give himself a right of refusal as the final reviewer before paying anything out (it wasn't just the mod's validation). And third - litigation is _very expensive!_ It would cost more to sue Jack than the value of his bounties, so it's a net loss to you. You'd also deter other potential bounty-issuers who don't want legal hassles over a few hundred bucks to incentivise fellow gamers. At the end of the day, it's not a formal competition but a good-faith promise which (like everything else on the internet) should be taken with a grain of salt. It sucks, but it's not a legal issue... a very different situation to Charlie/Critikal's bounties.
So he set aside the $4k worth of bitcoin but then couldn't pay it when the time came because it wasn't even worth $4k anymore. Can't say I'm surprised, but back when the challenges first went up the pitfalls of crypto weren't so well known i guess
What's so difficult about a damageless run? I wouldn't be able to do it but doesn't sound that unfeasible for a speedrunner. Am I forgetting something important? (Hi)
There’s several points in the game where taking damage is almost unavoidable. A lot of them are in the endgame, particularly in the Metroid Prime boss fights Try avoiding damage when the Prime Exoskeleton charges at you or fires its poison missiles, it’s super rough
It's a boring explanation, but it's likely Jack doesn't actually have the money after BTC's dropping prices. I doubt he's doing this maliciously and doesn't know how to approach the community now.
Comma and period are the hotkeys to advance frame by frame backwards and forwards. Of course, you could have easily searched google for the answer to this, not sure why you're asking in a random speedrunning video.
