The TRAGIC Story Of The Primordials! 

If the ancients at the citadel were actually primordials, what does it say about Martin that he established himself as their leader within 20 seconds?

Considering that The Lich’s hand was duplicated across the ENTIRE MULTIVERSE which was stated to be infinite by a lot of sources. The Lich may actually have a chance to make a come-back against the cosmic authorities and avenge his people as well honor their legacy. As now The Lich is a Multiversal Constant meaning even in Universes where he never existed or realities where he was defeated before even encountering Billy or where he was just outright destroyed by more competent versions of Finn and Jake, The Lich now EXISTS within those timelines. Furthermore I was under the impression that when The Lich was scattered throughout the Portal he simply was sent to every Universe in the Multiverse but this seems to be of a much greater scale than that as his hand was also sent to the Land of the Dead despite the Land of the Dead not being a place that exists in the Multiverse but instead exists outside it as the final destination for the souls of the Dead. As such it is safe to assume that The Lich wasn’t just sent to every Dimension but every conceivable REALM in existence AS A WHOLE. Meaning The Lich is right now in every Location across Space-Time as a WHOLE. Including places that are disconnected or otherwise existing outside the normal multiverse. Including Lumpy Space, The Night-O-Sphere, The Spirit World, The Crystal Dimension, and even possibly the Void where GOLB-Betty resides… We also know as a FACT that The Lich hand in The Land of the Dead WASN’T the same Lich Hand that Sweet P killed as according to Mr. Fox anyone who is dead in the Dead Worlds can take on the appearance and form of any of their previous incarnations and The Lich wasn’t able to return to his original form at full power, which means he wasn’t dead at all… He was just naturally sent to the Land of the Dead ALIVE…

The Lich states, before time there was nothing, and before there was nothing there were monsters, I have a theory based on why the Lich phrased it like this. Before everything, and even before nothing, the entire "universe" was not filled with monsters but existence itself was monsters. Everything was monsters, as single entity that at the same time could be composed of colective of infinite horrors. The primordials, like Orgalord, are remanants of that "everything" and somehow split up when nothing came to existence.

Really nice I personally believe the primordial monsters straight up wiped each other out, leaving barely any survivors as we can see in the show

It seems like the laws of physics themselves weaken the primordials. Like how the square cube law prevents creatures from getting too big but on a cosmic scale. It would make sense why only the weakest and smallest of those primordials are still alive because they were the only creatures who weren't so harshly affected by the sudden "pressure" exerted onto them

It's likely that nothing created the primordial monsters. Consider the Lich's gold star speech. He never mentioned any of the monsters being created. He just said "there were monsters." Nothing created them, they simply were.

When you do see Orgalorg becoming gunter and having a child called Kitten gives you hints Gunter was not only trying to make himself a heir to take his place but also restoring his people also hinting why Gunter jump on Jake and try to mate with him back in the episode still hinting why he play with jake ear hinting he felt was a perfect match for him and a new way to make more Primordials to restore his people

Maybe the lich hates all life, because life killed the primordials and life left him being the last scholar of golb and alone. Maybe life had something to do with their eradication. I don't think the lich is a villain from his perspective. Also he lost control of his self when finn infected him with life. It's like, life is a threat, a virus for them. Golb merged with life. I wonder what the implications are. It seems that life is their end and they try to prevent that. (i might be wrong, or have some facts understood wrong).

Well then, did the lich still alive? i don’t know man, because he last seen was being thrown to space

I'm not going to lie this is like some next level Cthulhu mythos type stuff, and honestly adventure Time lore is a lot darker than I initially thought it was this is crazy! Really like to continue doing great and phenomenal by the way. 😁👍🏿

OK I’m in. Everything about the Lich or the Primordials that you are talking about. The Lich is my favorite character in Adventure time. I will watch anything that talks about the lore of the Lich and the Primordial.

I never even knew about the Cosmic Imagination before watching your video on it, but now it definitely makes me think that the Primordials were the nightmares it had before it dreamt up the world of Ooo

If the lich is a primordial and turned into a catalyst comet, is finn a primordial too?

Your videos are refreshingly concise and you bring new insights to an age old show deeply revered by its fans

I think the reason why the primordial beings began to die is because the universe exists. Since they are being that predate creation/existence they likely lost there immortality while residing within said universe since it binds them to the laws of existence and while they can live till the end of everything, they now can be killed.

So what im hearing is the lich just wants to go back home, so hes a doctor who villain.

I think the prisoners are primordial in the citadel because they make the same noise the primordial made when the lich shows his memories to the king of ooo.

I love how you first brought up the BigBang I was looking for someone to clarify what we were all thinking.

Maybe some of the primordials wanted existance and some of them didn't. Because there were primordials who wanted existence, the multiverse existed. And because the beings inside the multiverse wanted to exist, it created a whole other slue of problems in the way of having a primordial paradise and the primordials who didn't want existence fought the other ones over it. Although it might just be possible that the primordials weren't immortal and could die by age, but since there was no multiverse, there was no time to kill them, and when the multiverse appeared, slowly they started dying. Realistically, if Orgalorg is one of the weaker primordials, anything that doesn't exist outside of the multiverse has no shot at killing that many primordials.

A novel take I'm quite fond of. There's an element of tragedy to them I'd never before considered.

I have a theory. You see how a lot of the primordials are either a concept or a personification or founders of something. Maybe before the universe happened it maybe needed a foundation to stand on concepts that would shape it. Maybe the primordials is that foundation where the universe stood on before able to stand on its own

I can imagine its like some kind of perpetual cycle. The time of Momsters, before Nothing and before Time, could have been at the end of the previous universe. With new Primordials formed and all of them just...i guess vibing???? in the Nothing Void. Then time starts again, Primordials are killed, the battle between Good and Evil continue for eternity until Evil wins and destroys everything or Good wins for long enough that everything worth defending as reached its end of life and all the stars poof and theres nothing left.

Nothing says for sure that the Lich is a primordial. Just that he was a catalyst comet, which nobody is sure what they are other than some kind of omniscient beings that typically repeesent something. Finn is Heroism, the Lich is malice and hatred. The Lich calla himself the Last Scholar of Golb as a title/honorific. Golb isn't intelligent so that suggests its a self-stylized title like "Scourge of God". He's a disciple of chaos and entropy. The final harbinger of death. He's not a book nerd that studied Golb and Golb's philosophy, just appreciates the idea of total entropy and destruction.

They are mostly yellow ... is it Jake becoming one?

Potential counterpoint to prevent giving the Lich an emotional throughline: The "last scholar of GOLB" bit is somewhat more metaphorical, since right before it the Lich refers to himself as "the ceaseless wheel". GOLB is chaos, change, entropy and just destruction in general. He's as much a force of nature as he is an actual being. The Lich lives for those principles, so in a sense he's GOLB's student, and he's the last one because there may have been multiple people with these ideals in the past (whoever made the ground zero bomb, for instance), or because the Lich fully intends to be the last one standing in a multiverse he personally empties. This is in retrospect, mind, before we knew what GOLB was I totally imagined a cadre of evil wizards just like him when the Lich said that.

Do you think the mother gum might be a sort of dormant primordial?

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I'm confident that the Citadel Ancients weren't Primordials and are more likely random monsters from space

What you say about the Lich echoes the Vedic god named Rudra, the Destroyer, who has an auspicious aspect to himself, Shiva. Much like the Lich and Finn. Rudra was born from the desire of the Creator god, specifically the desire for the divine harmony when everything was One. Quite literally exactly what you say about the Lich in this video. This Destroyer god is not exclusive to Vedic mythology, other places (especially Europe) worshipped similar gods, many of whom were horned, like Cernunnos, Gwynn ap Nudd, and Pan.

This completely changed how I see the Lich

Bruh. You made me feel sorry for the Lich.💀

So when the Lich made the the wish for the extinction of all life, he just wanted to go home 😢

lmao, the sea of monsters is older then GOLB. GOLB was born in the Era of Nothing, constructed in the anti-verse. The Sea of Monsters came before that.

Finn is able to reincarnate and do incredible feats, so maybe he is an ancient and he killed the lich

1:05 orgalorg loos so small compared to the others-

It’s a bold assumption thinking that Martin was imprisoned for non galactic crimes

So in other words Primordials,are basically adventure time. Version of the pattern screamers from the SCP universel.

Orgalorg is 1 of the most POWERFUL of the Primordials

If the primodials was the equipvalent of the "Great Old Ones", what the fuck killed them ?

Is Prismo also a Primordial being ?

Its incredible that 4G was actually able to beat one of these guys

Wasnt marcelines dad also one of them?

I thought this wad a cartoon

So the Lich and Golb is like Sauron and Melkor?

I always thought golb WAS a primordial.

gud vido

Whats the background music

SO IS FINN PRIMORDIAL

maybe stupid question but how do we know than lich was a primordial?

Why the aspect ratio of tiktok

😭 I'm already at RU-vid WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT

ok but like why tf did orgalorg turn into a penguin

Whats the name of the song in the background?

I don't know if it is tragic though 😔