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The TRAGIC Tale of Kethric Thorm 

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Baldur's Gate 3 is home to some of the most iconic villains we've seen in gaming in recent time. And while choices like Raphael make solid cases for being the greatest, I wouldn't blame you if Kethric Thorm was your favorite.
This brute of a character has one of the most tragic backstories I've heard of, and in this video we'll be diving into just what sort of loss has caused him to stand before us as he does. Broken and battered.
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@thisguyducky
@thisguyducky 13 дней назад
Ketheric: maybe this god will help me out this time
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 13 дней назад
3rd times not the charm?
@HanyaPanya444
@HanyaPanya444 7 дней назад
Tbf myrkul did deliver with his promises. Sure there was a high price, but no strings or cruel ironies attached (that we saw)
@jcdenton2187
@jcdenton2187 6 дней назад
​@@HanyaPanya444 Neutral Evil at its peak.
@HanyaPanya444
@HanyaPanya444 6 дней назад
​@@jcdenton2187 Not bound by law and focused unlike chaos. Neutral evil is the alignment of just getting shit done.
@Stuartette
@Stuartette 4 дня назад
Maybe if there was a god of therapy Ketheric could’ve been saved 😅
@Belarovis
@Belarovis 13 дней назад
I think ketheric might just be my favorite character in the game and J.K simmons does such a good job
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 13 дней назад
J.K. Simmons made the character for me.
@ori7647
@ori7647 7 дней назад
"Have you ever heard of the tragic tale of Ketheric Thorm?"
@jcdenton2187
@jcdenton2187 6 дней назад
It's not a story the Harpers would tell you.
@Profesor449
@Profesor449 6 дней назад
He says my favourite line: We are copper pieces in their belts, tokens to be traded for scraps.
@ben5056
@ben5056 13 дней назад
Having a daughter myself, i can definitely empathize with Ketheric. I was so well written.
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 13 дней назад
One of the most real villains we've seen in some time.
@SuperHansburger93
@SuperHansburger93 10 дней назад
I assume you mean empathize? Yeah, so do I.
@ben5056
@ben5056 9 дней назад
@SuperHansburger93 thanks for the correction :)
@Graves933
@Graves933 6 дней назад
"Mystra, I mean the groomer"
@4m4n40
@4m4n40 5 дней назад
Iirc, she was dead for most of the time gale was alive. He was probably in his late 20s/early 30s by the time they got the hots for eachother
@Graves933
@Graves933 5 дней назад
@4m4n40 I'm pretty sure Mystra noticed Gale When he was 8, started dating around 19 or 20.
@4m4n40
@4m4n40 5 дней назад
@@Graves933I think you’re talking about Elminster, he is Gale’s mentor and a chosen of Mystra
@Graves933
@Graves933 5 дней назад
@4m4n40 No, I meant mystra. It was said she noticed him at a young age
@ThatVeryOldMan
@ThatVeryOldMan День назад
The story also has Dame Aylin, the groomer.
@lumare
@lumare День назад
part of what makes Ketheric such a good villain is the fact that you can empathize with him - he's a man destroyed by grief having lost his wife and his daughter desperate to do anything to bring them back.
@willm9376
@willm9376 13 дней назад
Ketheric intrigued me a lot in my first play through of the game. While I immediately fan boy’ed over the voice of Mr. Jameson himself delivering an incredible performance, his story made me pause. Unlike Orin and Gortash (with the exception of learning about his past through a certain companion) don’t have compelling stories like he does. Orin is crazy and does crazy things because crazy dad says do crazy things for the lolz, and Gortash is just another cog in the cyclical wheel of abuse. But when I got to Moonrise towers, I spent hours combing the place, looking for every bit of info I could to see how to remove his immortality. Piece by piece I put together his story, until it finally clicked into place after raiding his bedroom and reading the materials in there. Ketheric wasn’t a villain because his parents were horrible, or because he is innately evil, he was just a man who loved his family more than anything. Ketheric is interesting (in my opinion) because he is so human. Any one of us could become like him, minus the whole immortal death paladin living in a cursed land. He is also the only major villain in the game who can be reasoned with before and during his fights. Being able to remind him of who he was and making him reflect on what his wife would think of him now reveals traces of his humanity. Of the three, Ketheric is my favorite antagonist in the game, and the competition doesn’t come close, which is saying something considering how incredible Orin’s acting and animations are!
@angelstarlight6030
@angelstarlight6030 7 дней назад
Elfanity (he's an elf) lol J/k I agree with what you mean though, he's definitely one of the best written characters in the game.
@josephm8294
@josephm8294 7 дней назад
J.K. Simmons was the voice of Ketheric. Although they probably both like Jameson Whiskey! LOL
@RazielTheUnborn
@RazielTheUnborn 6 дней назад
​@@angelstarlight6030He is a half High Elf. Still got humanity in there.
@angelstarlight6030
@angelstarlight6030 6 дней назад
@@RazielTheUnborn ahh I thought he was a full elf and Melodia was human, sorry my mistake 😅
@willm9376
@willm9376 6 дней назад
@@angelstarlight6030wait, does that make Isobel a quarter elf?
@Gigawolf1
@Gigawolf1 5 дней назад
It's possible that an agent of Shar approached Ketheric during his moments of weakness and eroded memories that would've kept him faithful to Selune. I could really see his tragedy be played out in a Demiplane of Dread, though I'm not sure how it would work with his role as Chosen of Urkel
@Hyperbuzz10
@Hyperbuzz10 5 дней назад
Me, marching in as a True Soul: "I've gotta be honest with ya general, I don't think religion is your thing. Have you considered atheism and grief counseling? I can refer you to a guy I know."
@DT-267K
@DT-267K 10 дней назад
Pro tip: When attempting to acquire pictures of Spider-Man, don't consort with evil deities to get them. Not fun, would not recommend.
@tomless
@tomless 13 дней назад
I was really joping you'd make an analysis on this! Ketheric was easily my favourite out of the three chosen and, at least in my opinion, the best written. A villain, yes, but ultimately a broken man who lost everything and felt abandoned by the goddess he upheld. All he wanted was his daughter back. Also helps that J.K Simmons nails every role he's in.
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 13 дней назад
Thanks for waiting patiently! I hope you enjoyed.
@Tarz9
@Tarz9 6 дней назад
I can't get over the fact that he is voiced by j k Simmons. J Jonah Jameson! Omniman!
@theshackledgamer799
@theshackledgamer799 4 дня назад
Only JK Simmons could portray General Edgelord so compellingly. He is by far my favorite of the Chosen.
@gamercore5216
@gamercore5216 11 дней назад
Actually the Mystra you meet in BG3/5e is Midnight (Renamed Mystra), the First Mystra and the Second coming of the goddess of magic was murdered
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 9 дней назад
Thanks for the clarification! These forgotten realms deities can get a bit confusing 😅
@HanyaPanya444
@HanyaPanya444 7 дней назад
1:15 just a quick thing here. In the forgotten realms Myrkul is not actually the god of necromancy, that is another god known as Velsharoon (not like forgotten realms ever uses him, also he is dead last I heard). Myrkul was the god of the dead, (now a semi deity with the much more minor roles of decay, aging, and other stuff related to that) and the whole undead and necromancy situation was just myrkul being an asshole with the role and powers given to him (tho tbf most death deities do that). Good video though.
@MGMac_
@MGMac_ 11 дней назад
This channel is criminally underrated. Very awesome BG3 video essays! Had a pretty crappy day and watching through all of these has helped a lot, so thank you!
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 11 дней назад
Happy to hear I could help you out for a moment in time! Thank YOU for watching and enjoying!
@TheRedneckGamer1979
@TheRedneckGamer1979 7 дней назад
The current goddess of magic is the fourth iteration of her. Mystryll died during the events of Karsus's Folly, the first mystra died during the time of troubles and the third died in 1385 assasinated by Cyric causing the spell plague
@DISTurbedwaffle918
@DISTurbedwaffle918 7 дней назад
In typical mage fashion, she dies very easily.
@GeekandGlory
@GeekandGlory День назад
I honestly didn't know JK Simons did the voice of Kethric Throm until I heard his voice in game for the first time. It was absolutely epic.
@Red-qv4nb
@Red-qv4nb 13 дней назад
You got one of the best BG3 channels out there
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 13 дней назад
Thank you so much! I aspire to be peoples' go-to for fantasy content like this.
@marbleherogaming735
@marbleherogaming735 12 часов назад
From the iteoduction of Ketheric when you enter Moonrise to seeing the intro of the apostle of Myrkul act 2 really gave us great cutscenes
@queldron
@queldron 3 дня назад
Ketheric is the most serious figure of the Chosen three.
@VeeOfTheEight
@VeeOfTheEight 3 дня назад
I love Ketheric's writing, and the fact that Aylin gets to kick his ass is amazing to me. I have never once handed Isobel over. Mostly because her and her girlfriend are perfect together
@marbleherogaming735
@marbleherogaming735 12 часов назад
The lesbians are adorable together
@seraphim4586
@seraphim4586 8 дней назад
these videos are really high quality and deserve way more views, this channel feels like your a youtuber who already knows what hes doing from another channel but could not branch out so you started this one as a new start, i know some youtubers that have done that. this content is really nicea nd well put together please dont give up on it because its not getting crazy views or subs yet
@aspermwhalespontaneouslyca8938
I've only watched half the video, but I've played through the game a couple of times and I feel compelled to comment. Almost ANYONE would do what ketheric did if he truly loved his daughter and wife. What we see of him in the actual game is just the husk left after his deal with the dark gods. The fact we cannot progress towards act 3 without killing him is a testament to this - it is a mercykilling.
@bp6h
@bp6h 11 дней назад
This is a great video, my man. He’s so well-written.
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 11 дней назад
Happy to hear you enjoyed!
@bezyn2291
@bezyn2291 День назад
This Mystra is more of a 4th incarnation of Mystryll, rather than 2nd.
@Superplayer_2
@Superplayer_2 6 дней назад
Amazing video 👍
@aurorajof9857
@aurorajof9857 7 дней назад
A lovely and very interesting video once more, my friend. Are you planning to do the companions or the other chosen as well? I'm kinda curious to see you do Gortash
@kendalltaylor897
@kendalltaylor897 13 дней назад
Great video!
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 13 дней назад
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed!
@skullkrusher-dx4kg
@skullkrusher-dx4kg 16 часов назад
Only person scarier than kethric is Durge and Kethric knows it lol
@LeoTheDarkAngel
@LeoTheDarkAngel 3 дня назад
I personally don't think it was the combined forces of Druids and Harpers that brought Ketheric down, at least not alone. As you said, there is evidence for people surrendering to him but him showing no mercy. While I'd argue that as a good General (which is stated more than once that he is/was), he wouldn't chase after his enemies if he didn't have the upper hand by a lot, there is also the architect of Moonrise in Raphael's house. He sold his soul to Raphael so Yurgir would tear down Ketheric's army and I think that played a huge part in Ketheric's defeat. Without the Druids and Harpers, this sacrifice might've not stopped Ketheric himself, but in my opinion, without Yurgir's intervention, the Harpers and Druids wouldn't have been able to defeat Ketheric either. I'm not sure if it is actually stated in the game, though I feel like it was. But even if it is not outright said, that is my personal interpretation of what happened prior to the story of BG3.
@swaim6995
@swaim6995 10 дней назад
Have you thought about making any videos about Elden ring, Or for its DLC perhaps?
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 10 дней назад
I have some older videos of mine on Elden Ring, and let’s just say it’ll certainly be making another appearance on the channel!
@DenofLore
@DenofLore 6 дней назад
You need more subs. This channel is great. I added mine to their number.
@Freshpickedrainbows
@Freshpickedrainbows 7 дней назад
Note. Selune was originally the Goddess of Light period, full stop. And of course Mystril favored Selune, she's Selune's daughter.
@chrispysaid
@chrispysaid 12 дней назад
Did you ever mention when and how Isabelle died?
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 12 дней назад
It wasn’t explicit, but implied through the portion of his monologue: “when she was killed…” It’s not specified specifically when or how in the lore either. The specifics seem ambiguous.
@1vandread
@1vandread 10 дней назад
Originally Halsin killed Isobelle in a fit of rage using a halberd he named Sorrow, he regretted what he did cause Kethric unleashed the Shadow Curse as a result. This was ultimately cut, though the halberd can still be found in the Emerald Enclave vault but, now has no narrative sense to exist. Isobelle’s death is unfortunately a mystery. Larian probably wanted to keep the focus on Kethric and alluding to blaming Selune and by proxy Aylin, for not protecting his family.
@SuperHansburger93
@SuperHansburger93 10 дней назад
We still don't know how Melodia and Isobel died...
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 10 дней назад
According to some in the comment section, there was apparently supposed to be some context surrounding at least Isobel's initial demise related to Halsin. But overall there doesn't seem to be hard answers regarding their deaths.
@frankzappa9853
@frankzappa9853 9 дней назад
Grief over the death of a loved one would be so much different in the forgotten realms then in the real world, in the real world I understand why it breaks people we don't know if we will ever see them again, but it's not the same in D&D in D&D everyone knows the gods are real and everyone knows there is a afterlifeits such a obvious topic that is always missed. Why would Kethric miss his wife and child at all he knows exactly where they are, they are with the moon maiden, why does he break down at all?
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 9 дней назад
Kethric was never as devoted to the moon maiden as Isobel and Melodia were. He followed because of them and felt betrayed by Selunah once they died as a result.
@frankzappa9853
@frankzappa9853 9 дней назад
@@FiguringOutFantasy that is true, but in the D&D word everyone knows gods are real, its a rather interesting concept when you break it down, how would society structure itself if we knew god was real?
@adeptustacticus3112
@adeptustacticus3112 7 дней назад
@@frankzappa9853 many people know the gods exist but either don't feel they are worthy of worship or refuse to believe that they are omnipotent or more than powerful magical beings. Ketheric may "know" that Melodia and Isobel are with the moon maiden but also because he wasn't really a true believer he likely wouldn't be claimed by Selune and thus wouldn't get to see them again in the afterlife after his death, which makes his damning actions all the more tragic
@paladinbuzz7895
@paladinbuzz7895 13 дней назад
Is this a re upload
@FiguringOutFantasy
@FiguringOutFantasy 13 дней назад
A re-upload with an additional 11 minutes thanks to youtube finally working properly!
@zero3045
@zero3045 12 дней назад
So I heard that some things were cut with Ketheric being a potential character to talk to in camp. I feel like that is partly why the story around Ketheric felt kinda incomplete. Playing through it feels like there were some weird gaps? It's hard to explain but think those who have played understand.
@Gummycow
@Gummycow 12 дней назад
I don’t play these nerd games but I love your videos!
@frankzappa9853
@frankzappa9853 9 дней назад
I disagree Kethric Throm is fundamentally a weak man, he constantly blames everyone around him if it's his God he worships to his underlings, his judgement of Mithara highlights this and his fluttering from one god to another also highlights how weak he is it's always someone's fault never Kethric he is pathetic
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