Kpop companies: don't talk to girls, dont look at girls, don't text girls, don't date Also kpop companies: now emotionally sing this song about how much you love a girl and how much you miss her
I really don't understand how the companies make idols sing about love so much but are not allowed to experience it themselves. Makes me really sad tbh.
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The government needs to start setting up regulations on how they treat people and what is legal to put in a contract. A lot of this sounds so one sided to the agency and is simply abuse. The modeling industry is beginning to change and this needs to as well. It's never okay to treat a human being likes an object with rights.
The sad thing is that the whole music industry or any kind of “creative/entertaining” industry works like this. So everything should be changed everywhere to treating humans as humans.
Can you imagine the trainee life being a thing in America? Every parent would put their foot down and take the agency to court. I wish Korean parents were more willing to do that for their kids.
Fang Sakuu But the kpop industry in particular is abusive and the most booming and popular these days. It just has to change. But some fans don’t even care.
Love doesn't have any connection with dating love is from our heart we don't have to date to fall in love cuz love is so natural we can fall in love with someone even if they don't know our existensy we can stop dating but we can't stop our heart to love someone
As much as I love kpop, half of this is honestly horrendous. I’ve always suspected these kind of rules but it’s interesting to hear you talking about it!
right the backlash that hyuna got for telling people she was dating the one dude from a boy group and hes in her group was a bigger shock for me .. also the amount of events she missed out on .. oh lord... glad she got signed to some other label now..
Bcs idols are supposed to love their fans only, who give them their living. Not their GFs. Imagine you buy tons of albums, spend lotta money to meet someone's boyfriend for 5 mins. Every fans knows deep within that they dont support their idols for their music. Music indeed play important rules, but not the #1 reason. Dating is ok in k-pop if youre established or not an idol (artists). 2PM and SNSD dated, BigBang dated or even married, IU dated. Hyuna dated, which is ok for her but not his bf, rookie group w/ smaller fanbase which still growing. Feel bad for his team. He got the pussy but the rest of the team are left with undecided career.
nah, even Sungmin from Super Junior got so much hate when he got married he barely gets the work he once has and will probably officially leave the group when his contract ends. these are grown men in their 30s
@@samanthaepps6365 Regarding Sungmin: 1) Some ELF were upset with Sungmin because wanted to get married right before enlisting which cut Mamacita promotions short. 2) Some ELF were also upset with Sungmin because SUPER JUNIOR had no clue that Sungmin was even dating and engaged until he announced it to the public
i never really understood why the kpop companies weight you daily. you can gain pounds, and lose them the next day, so its unfair for them to focus on every pound.
They know that. They do it to control how big amount of pounds give you each food you eat, or how ot bloats you. So they can reduce the food and give you something 'better'. They actually have a point
females weight fluctuates during their period, mine at times by 3 kg. so it is actually dumb to weigh someone everyday. in trainees, muscles build up, they also make you weigh more. they should measure the body fat if they feel the need to measure anything
@@sofia_rms it is very stressful, momo from twice said she was told to lose a lot of weight in a short amount of time that she only ate ice cubes. She was so afraid to sleep, which causes even more stress, because she thought she wouldnt wake up.
I think it's because like if you debut and lots of people find you attractive and that's a big reason you're famous, they don't wanna see you dating someone? Idk
@@elenav.5470 yeah true there are many fans who will get jealous if you are an idol that would date which means those "fans" will not support you anymore becasue of that jealousy because as a fan you would think: " I was the one who made you famous, I am the person who supported you long before your girlfriend did!!!WHY NOT DATE ME OPPA OR ELSE I WILL NOT SUPPORT YOU ANYMORE" so yeah that is why Companies forbid idols to date or else they would lose money because of those crazy ass "fans". As fan you are supposed to be happy with your idol dating because if your idol is happy, then that should be enough for a real fan.
The whole basis of idol culture is built on them being your ideal boyfriend/girlfriend. Changing this aspect of kpop is kind of changing what an idol is and what they do.
Very interesting series....but I do feel like I would want to know more what YOU personally went through... like did you have a easy time adjusting or did you feel like it was difficult.. Did you meet people you connected with while you were training? what was your contract like? How did your style change? BUT if it’s too personal i understand and respect that. Or if this is more geared towards people who might want to be a trainee..that make sense.
Hey no problem~ To answer those questions most of the things I stated were personal experiences except the dating/phone inspection/ my schedule was different. But as to your questions, I did have trouble adjusting like getting used to the new environment and also language and cultural barriers. I did met a couple of people I connected with but I think that was after the debut because I got to know more people. My style changed in the kind of brands/fit/ vibe changed. I was always a casual clothes type of girl but I think when I was trainee my style shifted to more of a bolder look/ a look were you try to stand out a little bit. At the same time it had to be comfortable enough to practice in.
I would like to know how it is a trainee day, no video on RU-vid talks about it, I'm very curious how it would be a trainee day, I mean you get to the company and what you do or what are the schedules and that things, like the routine
I have so much respect for trainees and idols. The stuff that they have to endure sounds so miserable. Do some of the rules ease up the longer you train? Because the trainees that train for a long time like 10 years not being able to talk to guys and follow these strict rules for that long seems miserable. I can’t imagine doing that. Plus some of these rules are still in effect when they debut. Also, I know this is a weird question butI’m curious about how girl trainees and idols deal with periods. For me periods kill me lol like I can’t function properly on my period. Do they put them on birth control or something to stop them? I know I got a birth control shot that stopped mine. So I wonder if that’s what they do. Thank you for this series. It’s so interesting to hear an what goes on behind the scenes!!
jenna b As for it easing up in some cases there are some things that ease up. As for the period it’s usually something you have to deal with on your own but if you have severe pain sometimes you can take it a little easy on practice but like I said it’s different for each companyz
7:30 JYP stated that JYPE doesn't, he banned it. But the anti-talent-poaching rule applies. Also, it really was interesting when a member said something like: "Funny how the two of us never been roommates until now, 4 years post-debut, in an overseas show.
Awesome series!! This is the side of kpop that doesn't normally get a lot of exposure, because us fans tend to focus on the success stories and not the harsh realities of the industry. Idol life is crazy - lots of respect to you for having to go through all of that. I wish you all the best for whatever path you decide on
Alright... being a trainee sounds like you no longer have human rights. I feel sorry for all these really young trainees who have do work under this psychological and physical stressful circumstances.
Woah about dating why do I think about Miyeon (G)I-DLE.. I've heard that she got kicked out from the company because she's dating with yg male trainee.
no omg she wasn’t kicked out for dating. She left because she was frustrated about her debut being delayed for 3 years and she trained for almost 6 years. She left and dated the dude she wasn’t kicked out. Stop spreading rumors u r not sure about.
With how technology, social media, self-expressionism, and entrepreneurship is booming now (and expected to grow in the future) with patience and effort it is *definitely possible to succeed in music on your own* without the BS that companies put you through. Not only will you get most of your income, but you will also have *creative freedom.* You'll be able to enjoy doing what you've wanted to do all along: music. The whole point of being an "artist" is to *express yourself creatively.* The way the industry seems to function right now goes against that. It's more like turning people into animatronics -- animated robots, rather than letting them actively communicate with people through music. It's like forcing a painter to paint exactly what he / she sees in a photograph rather than "how" he / she personally sees it. There's no expression in doing this and it's the most suffocating feeling. *Artists need to breathe to make art.* Artists thrive on self-expression. When I hear about *the suicides, the deaths, the insane dieting, and depression* that kpop celebs and trainees go through, it's heartbreaking. The way the industry treats these people by depriving them of basic human rights and giving them constant mental abuse is disgusting. Driving someone towards suicide and psychologically abusing someone *are crimes that stands in court. But the industry dodges responsibility* for this through its contracts. There should be some kind of workers' Union or organization to be on top of that since it's literally driving people to their graves. Anyway, *with the freedom you have now, enjoy it and be the person you want to be.* Be happy and live your own life being as free as you possibly can. You have my, and all your other subscribers' and fans', support. Go for it and don't look back. Stay tough, hang in there, and *keep singing* 💞💕✨👍😊
I plan to do this in the future. Instead of auditioning for companies, I'll just post my music on youtube or whatever for fun and if it works then it works but if it doesnt then it doesnt, I just like music a lot anyway. Personally I've though about becoming a trainee and its not really something I desire, but if I did then the part I would desire is being in a group, but you can do that without really needing to be in a company. I love my creative freedom and wouldnt wanna give it up to be given cheesy songs i cant put my own creativity and thought into. :)
Honestly speaking the texting thing is insane..... like, my closest friends are dudes and I've never been interested in dating....it's just not a priority if mine....wow.
I'm sure other people have commented on this before, but whenever I hear about trainees and the whole "not allowed to text people of the opposite gender" .......... what if the person is gay/in a same-sex relationship? lol
People only see the glamorous part of idols and not this part that you're giving to us. I still think it's something that I would like to embark on and try (I ditched my first audition for this one company cuz I feel I wasn't ready) but it does make me think why some members got out of their contract make their own music and why others have continued to stay and whatnot. I have so many questions
I can imagine the stress that trainees went through on dieting esp. if they're not naturally skinny. Being skilled is alr a pressure itself. I have a big body, and even when I eat less than ppl surrounding me, I gain weight. Sad reality. But just so you know Christine, I'll support you in this whatever path you choose. Don't stop being real 😊❤
How do you keep in touch with your family if you’re the only one who moved to Korea to train? Will the companies allow social media for just that one instance, to keep in touch with family? If they do allow that, do they allow you to keep in touch with them on a regular basis?
It varies for each company but if that is the case they will let you keep in contact with them. If cell phones are really not allowed jn their company trainee rules you will either have to find another way to contact them via email or Ive seen cases making an agreement to call once a week.
There was a girl (I forgot her name) she also talked about her trainee days and she wasn’t allowed to have to contact to her family. On her birthday her father came to the company’s doors and was sent back.
i get that there should be rules that are followed but this is lawful slavery. seriously. the thing about not being able to contact the opposite sex, what if the person has a spouse?
I think the small income for your meals are only in small companies. I think twice just said the company deducts credits from them when they get food and stuff at the cafeteria.
ann It depends on the company. Rules change depending on the company and even some dieting is harsher than other companies. I know for sure that JYP is different from when Miss A/GOT7/TWICE/& Wonder Girls were trainees.
He said he did it secretly. He did it to pay for his college but got into an accident while working as a delivery boy. When bighit inquired about his shoulder injury, he admitted that he had been working to pay his tuition fees. The company said that he should have told them about it sooner and were willing to pay for his tuition.
Sounds exactly like forced labour for little pay. They know how bad these young people want to be idols so they take advantage of that. I think most people wanting that lifestyle know of these hardships so it’s easy to say to them, “ You have no right to complain, it’s what you wanted.” But it doesn’t make these things right or warranted. These situations can seriously impact ones long term health, especially when these bodies are going through puberty and major physical and hormonal changes. I hope the companies change, I think some of these things are ok within reason but to this extent, it’s abuse. You should never have control over another’s personal life unless it’s endangering them and their group, dieting should be done healthily and under a doctors supervision if underage, and forcing long practices unless they absolutely want to should never be done as it compromises the persons immune system and muscle healing time. How can they expect perfection when they’re training these hungry and exhausted people? An empty stomach and a tired brain doesn’t help. And forced weigh ins are practically begging them to have long lasting severe body image issues. I know image is extremely important since it is what initially attracts new fans, but for the love of god, do it in a healthy way. Trainees train for such a long time so that’s enough time to shape them into what they want, no need to be so harsh and use unhealthy methods.
Did you personally get into much trouble because Blady never managed to 'Break Even' with the company? I see you 'honored' your contract till the end. How did other members managed to break their contracts? Did you keep in touch with any member besides Coco? ps: On the last comment I made, I had subscribed before watching any videos. But now I've seen them all =) I even liked the shoe videos. My suggestion is, keep bringing in friends and do fun stuff, like challenges and things like that. And more Q&As please! ps2: I aways liked your facial expressions, Tina! Don't be afraid to show them all. Fighting!!
Andy Hey thanks for watching. Ending a contract mmm it’s different. there are many cases and ways but usually its your last option. And it takes a while to get to that decision. I will try to talk about the break even processes through my series soon! I keep in contact with my recent members. And thank you for the suggestions I agree with you^^
=) Thought you'd cover those in a future video, but I had to ask. Glad to know you still keep in touch with other members. Thanks for answering so promptly.
Wow major props to you for sticking it out I would not have had the patience. Seems like a pretty damm brutal career thinking that you may or may not debut. I would probably get home sick too. Thanks for sharing your experience👍😁 looking forward to more of these videos have a nice day! Keep up the good work
you should do a serie about the good things about being trainee or idol or I´m going start thinking that idols and trainnes sufers alot If I was rich and if I had a chance to be a CEO I would treat my group like they were my own daughters/sons what are the other Blady members doing ? Giru doesn´t update her instagram for about 1 year do you know news about her?
bruno silva There are good things too of course but I did want to inform people on just some of my experiences too. The members are all well. Some continue to walk down this pass and others plan on walking down different paths. I cant give detail as to it is their private life but they are all working really hard at what they are trying to do.
Your series is kind of eye-opening and it really opened up another aspect of the Kpop industry that many us are still unaware of. I've been into Kpop for a long time now, but its a first for me to hear about the many things you talked about in your series. Thanks for deciding to do this series ❤️ it's really informative and I appreciate you sharing your experiences with us as well ❤️ I have mad respect for you, the idols, and all other trainees out there. (I also read from another comment that you're planning to release your own music in the near future! I just wanted to say GOOD LUCK and I know it will be GREAT ❤️ Can't wait to hear it!)
I'm so thankful for this video and other videos like this on RU-vid. When I was really young, I desperately wanted to be a kpop star, and I even tried to convince my mom to let me become a kpop star (LOL). My mom said that the kpop lifestyle was short-lived and she was adamantly against it. We fought over it for a really long time, but I'm SO THANKFUL my mom was strict and levelheaded. Now, I'm in my second year of law school, and I feel so blessed that I can explore my own dreams and aspirations. Thank you for sharing this video!
practicing from 6am to 9pm? this is why i have so much respect for other artists/ groups whatever their company is, big or small, bc im aware of how hard they've been working and how much they've given up even just for training and thank you christine for this video it really helps us understand idols more tho i wish the government or ent companies needs to reconsider other stuffs since y'all are human beings too
thats bad ㅠㅠ its really sad , like its the path they choose and they cant just go against it .. they really fight hard and even harder when they debut cause they need to remain and to become successful like i really felt the stress just by hearing you ugh the suffer is real ... big respect
soobeanie_ exactly , i feel like knowing its the path they choose by themselves helps them to have more strengths somehow , hope companies to go easy on them ...
Kpop companies: don't talk to boys, dont look at boys, don't text boys, don't date Me: What if they find out that I watch Ship compilations and fake subs etc...
As a fan I think we always suspect how hard it is for idols but to hear it from someone with experience, it's really shocking! Another really great video 😚
I'm just curious, I have heard about this no dating and random phone inspections on other videoes. Has any Idol ever thought of changing a boy's name on their phone to a girl's name to prevent from getting caught talking to a boy? And maybe keep a secret note or something saying what alias goes to which person or just remember it in one's head? Or is there something on Korean Cellphones that reveals if the other user is male or female that is unchangeable? Or are companies so tech savvy that they can find out if a name was changed or something? Just something that popped in my head.
Lilly Bee he probably did the same thing that everyone who wants to date in the industry do, got caught by the managers, then the CEO found but didn't care and couldn't kick him out cause he's already really big and popular in the industry and even if it got out to the fandom, it didn't matter cause a huge part of the fandom supported them.
In the next video, could you talk about how some groups only start getting payed after 3 YEARS after their debut? I don't understand how that's not illegal since they are technically working already. Thanks girl, love this series!
You're paying for a debt - all investments made by the company. You're technically getting paid, but your salary goes to your debt. Essentially, it's like you loaned and the collateral is you/trainee.
the training itself is a loan.so once u make money u pay it first.. i heard that big company like big3 and some other one didnt do that,like when u become their trainee company investing on you and doesnt take charge for all money they spend for vocal training,dance,etc etc.and when u debut and make money you get your payment right away
I think they only give trainees 6 dollars for food so they can't gain weight cuz they won't eat a lot xD To be honest, i think going through this hell is not worth it..
These videos really open my my eyes to why the kpop industry is so stressful for many idols and trainees.Being on a food budget, dieting, social commutation, income, investments, debt, is alot I will always keep this in mind knowing the true side of kpop.
I don't get it.. why would companies tell girls to go on diets but not give them the money to have a healthy diet? Can't they see that there's problem with that? It's just ridiculous... I mean what do they expect girls to do? 😕 Do they expect them to get money from their parents?
If they really need to diet they would maybe order a salad plan for you or like a diet meal for a day. Or for us since I wAs in a dorm they would buy was chicken breast/ eggs/fruits sometimes so we can eat that except then we would not get money for the days we did have food in the dorms
i go to a workshop that's basically like low key "kpop training" and so i get to live my passion without having such strict rules and just learn and learn. one day i hope though that i can experience kpop training since i'm somewhat used to everything you've already listed. i know its gonna be hard, but i have this habit of pushing myself and i think thats going to help me here.
love the intro & how you want to film alone even though joan is there as one of your biggest fan and mentor, i love your series and i genuinely see the hard work you're putting on for your channel
Thank you for being honest. I've listened and read different stories. I don't think I've could of last. Sounds too stressful and awful way to be treated🥺 I feel bad for those who get in so much debt and never debut or debut and disband after a few comebacks.
Would you jump at the chance to do kdrama if you were offered a role or you were asked to test for a part? The training process seems a bit familiar to being a college athlete. The cool thing about it was getting a box full of stuff from Nike or Adidas. Shoes; t shirts; and other stuff. Did you get any gifts from like major fashion brands?
The thing with them not allowing boy's phone numbers is kinda silly. What if you don't text people but instead use apps like Discord or Skype to talk to people or whatever similar app Korea has? How are they going to figure out who on your friend is a man or women? People don't often use their real names for their usernames. So do they make you delete these apps then? Also, are you allow to play mobile games on your phone or do they consider that social media too?
Some places make you delete it. SoNi remember if people still had phones and they texted people they would delete the texts before coming to the company.
i get that the kpop industry does seem like “modern slavery” and everything, but tbh what job isn’t ? i know people don’t mean to be rude but it’s slightly offensive to say that when people dream of being kpop idols, because they are aware of what they’re going to enter :(
About the food thing, can the trainees parents/family send them money so they din't have to rely on these 4-6 dollars that barely buy a decent meal? Also don't they get groceries for the dorm?
Would you say that your idol experience was predominantly positive or negative? I know that the idol experience is different for everyone, given their company or group dynamic. Also, do you think you were in a group that had a shot at being big?
dnwalkingoneggshells wow thats a good question had me thinking. More than the good and bad I think it was very very different than I imagined to be for the good and bad. As to the group having a chance its all about the timing, talent, songs, fans, company, I think these are key points for having a chance.
Hi, I have a question. When you are flying to South Korea for round 2 of the audition how much clothing should you bring? All of it? A few? Because you might win or might not. Or should you bring none at all? I’ve been wondering about this for quite a while.
Hey Christine, love the vid. Just a suggestion, I think you should let the people contribute for the subtitle because I heard a lot of teenage girls/guys all over the world wanted to become a kpop idol nowadays. Cheers!
Geez this sounds exactly like my boarding school, no phones (u gotta send it in to the teachers and get it back at weekend), random phone inspections & no dating sounds so much like my school lmao. The schedule too except the practices would be changed into extra classes. Lmao
The diet part if it all broke my heart tbh..it truly hurts to know that a young person, with changes in their body, has to go through weighing themselves every day and worrying about their weight fluctuating even just slightly. Beauty standards are the worst in Kpop. Nothing could beat self-esteem issues or eating disorders.
