THE REAL BEAUTY STANDARDS OF KPOP| IDOL INSIDER 

@moon dust it’s two different things being tolerantly chubby or in healthy shape and horribly obese

My weight is 43 with more muscles than the kpop idols😭. Wish i could be more slim, i am just average.

Sometimes you have to take the beauty standards with a pinch of salt. It’s is an illusion, to create a fantasy.

@MARIA EDUARDA MAYUMI IIDA FUDABA i know i am beautiful but there are just some things i want to achieve. And i want to slim my legs so that i will look pretty in skirt or shorts(maybe for others i look perfect but in my eyes my legs are thick) and nobody forces me to be slim. It's just what i like.

And in America its gotten weird because they want thick thighs, boobs & hips then small waist & toned arms 🤦🏾‍♀️. All these beauty standards are freaking ridiculous. Expecting humans to defy their natural bodies is sickening

Ikr I was so surprised, almost cynical, Caus most of the female kpop idols I see are so thin (no hate all bodies r beautiful)

@@exthxr_04x21 yh yh I get what u mean

@@exthxr_04x21 i would rephrase like sticks with petite bc that could offend someone but like i understand

@@turlakids7707 Yh sorry that’s why I put the bit in brackets :)

@@exthxr_04x21 AH NOO DW IK U DIDNT MEAN ANY LIKE HARM OR ANYTHING

literally, it's your "imperfections" that makes you attractive !

That's why I like Mamamoo, not a stan just a fan. I love how genuine they are with themselves and with their fans, they don't try to portray a certain image, sometimes which are forced by the companies for kpop idols mostly female idols.

@@emotionaldamage9894 and not to mention Mamamoo members hv several tattoos. So much for kpop beauty standards, they broke all the rules, hahaha.

Mamamoo are mf Queens I'm a Moomoo I love them so much!

Sorry but since when does arms’ hair are an “imperfection” ? 😐

@@amaria6843 very true. Kpop just can get away with more cuz of the culture.

We’re all assets under capitalism

always been buddy, always been

@@amaria6843 is it the same in every company? Or are there major diffrences in the industry? i just cant belive that every company treats thier idols like that.

@@amaria6843 so its not the entire industry?

And people still send them hate

The fact that taeyeon said she doesn’t want her child to become a singer without hesitation

Krystal and jessica send her rewards Moonbin little sister wants tp debut and he doest tell her to stop

Chaeyeon and chaeryoung once said that they don't want their youngest sister to be an idol at all. So to see idols saying shows that they've definitely gone through a lot and they don't want their siblings to experience this.

Makes sense. Child stars in the usa used to carry a curse. Like we just expected child stars to have meltdowns or become addicts or something awful when they became adults. the entertainment industry is A LOT for a person to handle mentally and physically draining too. No matter the age it takes a strong person with loved ones to support them to come out sane in this industry.

yeah right

WE NEED THIS VIDEO

I think the parents don't know about this. (Just my prediction)

@@j-hooooooooooooooooooooooo9935 about them being an idol or trainee ? Cause I’m pretty sure they would notice if they pay attention to their kid a bit lol

@@j-hooooooooooooooooooooooo9935 i guess they know they just can’t do nothing about it

@G-Taehyung Back then she was considered fat when she first debuted and in sixteen!! A lot of people considered her the ugliest member and suggested she need to lose weight! But nowadays people love her body and she seems so happy about herself as well which I’m happy with. She looks so beautiful honestly

@G-Taehyung not everyone! many hate on her body. i am glad you didn't have to see those hateful comments!!

Jihyo is so damn fine, idk who the fuck would hate on her bid body

@G-Taehyung K-netz often talk shit about her breats :(

@G-Taehyung alot are probably on the korean/asian side though so unless you can read those comments you wont know

same

lol haha

BTS is the exception because they make so much money and help the Korean economy a ton. Jungkook has many tattoos, and so many more examples. I'm happy for them, but one day I want other idols to get that freedom

They have leverage because of their level influence and success. Other idols don't have the same privilege, so your comparison makes no sense.

Chaeyoung from twice cut her long hair super short soon after knock knock era without permission too. Once youre big enough the companies are a lot more forgiving

Honestly, I think they are adding up to the pressure that their idols feel and I wish people would just accept their idols’ decision. If they want to get surgery, then just let them. Don’t act like it’s natural otherwise they will feel the pressure to hide it. There is nothing wrong with having surgery if it makes you feel confident.

@@Idontknowhowtonameshit fans behaviours of thinking their idols as perfectionists are the reasons why idols never publicly accept of undergoing Plastic surgery and these kinds of things,,, they know fans would get angry if they do!

@@sanaluv4487 omg true!

Bp lisa got her whole face transformed ...actually she got 3 rhinoplasty and whenever surgeons try to raise awareness about that stupid blinks attack them as if they know better than those professionals

@@tulipflower5941 AGREED! that's why many surgeons fear to talk about idols' surgeries...especially when it comes to BTS and Blackpink! of course, why wouldn't they?? K-pop Fandoms are hella scary bruh...fans literally harras them and send death threats! Just take an example of youtuber LORRY HILL~ I feel so bad for her...

Ify🤧😭😭

felt this :(

Imperfections add character to your appearance

I feel this :(. I don’t even like to talk a lot or smile bc of my teeth and if I do it’s with my mouth closed. I’m so thankful that I’m getting braces soon.

Same:///

agree, literally almost all of our favorite female idols are wearing those things and it's pretty obvious most of the time? i mean there's absolutely nothing wrong with this, i really dislike it when someone gets bashed for it but are you all blind and seriously thinking that all of these idols are "hourglasses" suddenly? xD

I have to admit: I'm only listening to the music the most time or sometimes watch MVs so I don't really notice the difference😅

@@boombayuna536 and it’s so funny when I try to educate people on this topic bc then I get called a “hater” or with bp a “blonk” just bc I’m telling them that they wear pads...

@@LFS02 fellow blink here and lmfao i can’t believe ppl call u a blonk for pointing out the obvious. pointing out hip pads isn’t like you’re body shaming.

@@kaepiper the problem is that they literally think that I’m body shaming them and that I’m “jealous” of their body... it’s so frustrating bc they literally don’t understand how damaging their mindset is

Thanks!

Thanks🥰🥰🥰

Thank u so much 💓

Thanks ☺️

Yeah and covering tattoos and stuff

bruh

I don’t think they do, they just take care of themselves. They cover tattoos with skin colored bandages

Yes! I was looking at a thread of a male idol and his nose kept changing sizes. Until i finally realized it was makeup. Like the thread had pics of him with and without makeup. he has a BIG nose and i never noticed! he must still get contouring makeup done even when it looks like he has no makeup on. he must use a filter on his lives when he is makeup free.

@@everythingsfinett3903 they sometimes use body make up to create 11 line abs on some female idols, once saw a video about it. Like one time they have abs, the next second not.

So beautifully said.. kim jisoo is the standard.✋

@@ENFINITY_ setting the standard again humans...

And then they go to white wash, surgery, hip pad,.. LOl. They don't accept theirself at all. They only say cliches and being hypocrite.

@@adw6894 it does not matters, what matters is that she loves herself like we all should do without disrespecting other people

Big butt and skinny legs isnt automatically fake. It can happen if they have pear or hourglass body shape but thats quite rare in kpop since most of them have rectangle/inverted triangle body shape.

@@k-potato3593 true, the maximum you can achieve with skinny legs is decent proportional butt cause round butt needs fat, it's hard to target fat to the certain part of the body. I'm not against butt pad, thinking of it, it actually makes extra cushion when you sit lol

@@k-potato3593 wrong. That's just straight up misinformation. Your butt will be proportional to your legs, no matter if you're pear or hourglass. It can happen but it's VERY rare.

its all called genetics.

@@joannepranata9405 tell me that you know nothing about hips and boob pads without telling me.

You mean something like Black Swan being outsiders (in the industry) because one of the members is from Senegal?

@@jules6578 Yeah the colourism is really present in Asia(not only but yeah) I hate it because people are not happy with the skin colour they have and buy creams like "Fair and Lovely" to make there skin paler....

@@jules6578 also tzuyu, they whitewash her all the time.

@@fahmiaghose2700 yes, but I guess in India, nowadays we are getting foundation cream based on our skin type. I hope things do change.

@@parvathiph2291 I always find foundation 5 Sades lighter :(

I think the only person I can remember off my head now that actually has hips is Hwasa

But I have hour glass body and still don't wear hip pads or bra pads

@@user-yv2we6pf4w Nobody asked.

that would be really interesting! i think it's true a lot of times. like in girl groups for example, there's usually always a tomboy/girl crush member, a sweet/innocent one, the silly and loud maknae etc.

oh??? wow

yes i believe it was part of the concept that the company wanted to create. not necessarily their personality but the image that the idol will put in front of the cameras. hence why if you noticed a lot of groups (whether it’s bg or gg) have similar formats. for instance, there’s gotta be the cute one, the silly one, the cold etc etc. it’s part of the business

I think it's true. Most of the times the idols themselves are the ones changing their personalities tho

I think she has mentioned before that it's true and she was supposed to be the bubbly one

ohh i see.. i dont know much about filler and ps, could you list some of the idols who do?

I agree. You can do a lot of stuff, even surgery and botox, and still look okay, but as soon as you put filler in your face it ruins it, even a small amount. It's really sad that this keeps being pushed

i agree, i see a lot of my favorite 4th gen idols with stuff like that while not even being an adult with 16/17?

@@boombayuna536 It's especially more obvious with female idols who, after receiving tonnes of hate from pann losers over their perfectly normal body weight, will starve to achieve a skinny frame before comebacks but somehow their faces remain plump like 2 year old babies. I once read from a dermatologist who lives in Asia that those plump cheeks can only be achieved with fillers otherwise their faces will sag after dieting. I mean, sure it looks nice and all initially. But it's going to make these young idols look very strange once they hit their late 20's and 30's especially when you consider how addictive thee non invasive procedures can be.

@@boombayuna536 I’ve never thought about that before. Getting fillers at 16-17 is clearly insane, when you’re still growing and thinking that you need fillers when at such a young age is so damaging.

Its called fan service

I wish if she made video on this topic too

@@belemapeter445 well yes but many(not all) idols did dancing or singing before getting into the industry so it’s their dream to make it big n fans come w that/ literally what makes u a celebrity so why wouldn’t they be thankful for their fans especially knowing the money situation in most companies that cant be their reason in wanting to become an idol so i do think they’re all thankful for their fans

I believe that most of them do love their fans, but they exaggerate

i think the major part of them do, since we made their dreams come true, but i dont think love is the right word for it, i would say they appreciate us not LOVE us

I'd say sunmi is pretty good at embracing herself. Mamamoo too

Omg maybe that's why Shinee is my ultimate group. But you should also check out Chenle and Mark from nct. They are pretty raw on Vlives a lot of the time

I love those lives where Key just casually picks out his contact lenses and uses the camera to check if he's got anything up his nose. Dude does not care one bit, and I love it.

They used to cover up Felix' freckles (Stray Kids) all the time, now they don't do it so often because of the support from fans all over the world - gladly. You wrote about BTS (I really like their music, don't get me wrong) but they (I think Jimin) also said something like: "wow, we were so brave to show up without make up", which again just shows the beauty mania...

@bangtan trash also in the recent Festa if I remember correctly

Yeah there are injections at dermatologist to lighten their skin.

@@willowsprings7588 whhaaatt?! So that's what it was?? I always wondered how they looked tanned when they were like 18 then progressively got lighter and lighter until their skin is snow white?! Like how?!!!

@@goddog74 yeah!! and there r so many!! It's crazy how they totally change their skin tone

I also experienced this last year for almost 2 months. I didnt go to a doctor tho. It just kinda went away after always going out and hanging out with some friends, sharing my problems that must have been the reason for my anxiety. Anyways for those who are also suffering from anxiety, please get some from your doctors and hope you'll get well soon.

please stay strong, i will pray for you, i send you lots of love and strength

@@afriend9079 thank you so much for explaining, stay strong

How is that bullsiht ? Their concepts change with every comeback and a tattoo is permanent so can be a real hassle to cover every single day ! As for the slim but with curves, it's litterally the standard everywhere: slim so you're healthy and toned, but still have feminine features, and the vast majority of females manage to have both naturally so no big deal ...

@@kimjunjae I don’t get why you’re tryna defend this lmao. If Korea is gonna associate tats/piercings as “taboo” then they shouldn’t use them AT ALL for “aesthetic reasons” that’s straight up hypocritical. Same with weight/body types in Korea. They’ll shame idols for gaining weight (I can’t count the amount of times girl idols got hate for gaining before/during a comeback) but it’s okay to use hip pads, butt pads, etc for the illusion they’re slim but curvy?? No. I’m sorry but there’s no excuse for any of this.

@@enchantedpropaganda You're plain stupid, you're mixing everything up. What relation do you even manage to find between a taboo related to tattos and entertainement companies et publicists prefering idols not to wear tattoos for practical reasons related to their job ? Also, you seem to be mistaken about the slim but "curvy" thing (curvy normally meaning having curves, not being fat), it is about being slim but having a feminine silhouette (aka some chest and hip), there is no opposition between both, it's just that SOME girls have narrower hips or a smaller chest and need some enhancement to look nice. Overall, it's about balance, not fat, not too scrawny, with a nice silhouette. How hard is that to understand ?

They are not used for idols, they are used for MALE idols

@@Dyewmwiwge Sorry, could you clarify your comment ? What is used for idols ?

Some of them shave and some do laser treatments because the constant shaving irritates their skin. Suga said he did laser on his facial hair. But also keep in mind that some just aren't hairy, bts members have said that jungkook barely has any body hair

@@karlafrancis8471 oh okay ! thanks for your answer :)

Yes. Some will talk about it. Also look at their predebut and rookie year pics and you can see body and facial hair on a lot of them. They are also darker. It takes a couple years for the companies to transform them into hairless pale men.

@@karlafrancis8471 wait when did yoongi said that ? And when they talked about jk I wanna know

@@deancore719 yoongi said it in the vlive with tae and jhope when they were making the drinks and tae was showing off his moustache shadow. I don't remember where they said that about jk but I remember rm saying it and the members agreed.

It’s crazy how many idols wear padding. I’ve seen so many people comparing people’s bodies with idols who are wearing hip pads... Also when they give a certain idol the best body name when they wear hip pads 24/7😕 Jennie as an example

@@LFS02 yesss! I honestly thought they were THAT perfect!!

@@ribbit444 it’s so sad bc I know so many people who got so insecure bc of this.

first world problems, what? hahahaha.

U don't know what that means?

@@Idk-ro5ez ?

@@strawberryfraisier6446 first world problems are problems that the rest of the world would kind of be privileged to have

Same to you And Thank you so much

I think there the point is to make it obvious that it's *not* the idol's skin in that area that people are seeing. Any clothing that appears too skimpy with flesh-coloured undies would get the idols (specifically female idols) criticised for "showing" that much skin, and would also encourage creeps who might actually believe it's their upper thigh or sideboob or whatever that they're seeing. Black safety shorts etc make it obvious that the idol's modesty is still protected (which is a whole other can of worms).

@@TheOriginalJellicle indeed your comment is very wise. But let’s think about Korea’s woman standards. Remember that in that country it’s very different from America and women prefer to be more covered even tho they are not idols. Personally I think it’s something dumb, because woman have the right to be free and show whatever they want without feeling bad about they’re body. But there in Korea it’s something that it’s very difficult to change. The majority of those people have very low self confidence (there’s another word for that but English is not my first language) and they do a lot of surgery....have you seen the transformations of those people 😟 it’s even frightening because they look totally different. They wanna look like lmao this is an example don’t come for me but “anime characters” the perfect chin, double eyelids and an exaggerated skinny body. There has even been protests in the country for that reason because it’s killing people you can even look it up. There’s videos here in RU-vid of fans concerned about their idols weight.

yeah i think it’s usually the broadcasting station’s rules, like they can’t show beyond this part etc. i do hate it, because i think one of the rules is no cleavage and it’s kinda obvious that the stylists try to mend or make clothes that cover the cleavage completely, even for idols with bigger chests like twice jihyo. i say it’s obvious because e.g. in one of her alcohol free stages, she has a top that seems to cover way higher than where i would naturally expect it to cover, and it looked a little awkward (imo at least). and i hate this rule because it contributes to the idea that cleavage = sex/sexualization and therefore, any woman with cleavage can be sexualized which i highly disagree with. cleavage is just part of a woman’s chest, that doesn’t mean a man can sexualize her. also, the part about not wanting perverts to look at them, well, women shouldn’t have to cover up for that. that’s on them being sex crazed and disgusting, why should women have to change themselves for it? also, no one gets to decide if they want to “protect” women from pervs, be it someone on the internet or a broadcasting company. miss me with that argument. women can decide if and when they want to cover themselves to protect themselves from pervs, thank you very much, you don’t need to do it on our behalf. sorry this was a long ass reply.

@@jbtfp Yeah, that's the "whole other can of worms"... I was specifically replying to the question of why the safety shorts etc. are usually black, not why they're there in the first place. I agree that the women should be allowed to decide for themselves whether or not they want them, however keep in mind South Korea is very conservative and very sexist - the idols themselves have been criticised for controversial outfit decisions that were made by the company/stylists (see Sistar, Stellar, Hwasa to a certain degree, though she seems to have more autonomy with it she still gets a *lot* of criticism), and there's a huge anti-feminism movement on at the moment. One of the Red Velvet members even had to apologise a few years back for just carrying a book that relates to feminism. In an ideal world it wouldn't even be a discussion, but South Korea is very much *not* an ideal world.

@@juzo526 I was speficially replying about why the safety-wear is usually black, not the reason for the safety-wear itself.

i think its becos its too scandalous, like its exposing your near pubic area. Asian culture is more conservative than Western culture (esp American) about physically exposing yourself in an upfront sexual way. Alot of people would say this is because most East Asian countries have a root in Confucianism - which is basically revolved around pretty traditional and conservative values of such.

@@PrincessSakuno Yeah, I figured it was something along those lines, and I get that they are a bit more reserved about _some_ things than equivalent western performers (cleavage seems to be another one), I just found it interesting that this was a part that was almost always kept covered up, when they so often have very short shorts or expose the upper belly.

Also since they often use body conturing for 11 line abs, it is easier to do this on the upper belly and maybe hide the teeniest tiniest pouch you have on your lower belly. (Still don't understand where there is a pouch at 45kg but well...) Since I am a woman (European tho) and actively doing sports like bodyweight training I know how hard it is to build 11 line abs (for me sixpack abs) and to remain them. These girls are mostly eating under their daily calories so it is even harder to build up muscles. That's why it is easier to do body cont. than having the idols do extra training after letting them dance for 7 and sing for 3 hours...

@@raba9_7 that's sad

But they wear sooo short shorts. So i think it's also bc they want to hide their lower belly, you'll look thinner like that (the toxic skinny standard).

THIS.

@@celestia8681 The fact that some kpop idols has said that they don't feel beautiful says a lot how rigorous the beauty standards ar forced upon them!

Yesssssss thank you🙏

I have never worked at a place that did NOT have dress codes. they always had guidelines about hair color, tattoos, jewelry, and even scents. Worked in restaurant, hotel, library, church, and retail stores. I was not bothered. My schools had dress codes from kindergarten to college. i went to public school and a business college. If folks want to dress however they want at a job, got to work for yourself.

@@kdfkdf1711 that’s not a good thing

Dress codes are important. Cuz if you leave it upto people they can wear anything.

Yeah I would think dress code is universal. Even in summer people working in finance need to wear suits. And they certainly can't have crazy hair or visible tattoos.

as Airline Stewardess, I agree with what you said. We have to maintain ideal weight, natural hair colour, polished nails, no visible tattoos, make up with certain guidelines, etc. But still not comparable to kpop idols.

Awww🥺 thank you! 😍

Out of interest: what are the reasons for the girl groups? Since there are so many around that also seem children friendly (like weekly, lightsum or stayc f. Ex.)

@@magdagarroway909 Sabendo o quão tóxico são os padrões femininos, comparados com os masculinos, talve ela fez isso para não se sentir insegura. (Please, translate from portuguese to your language.)

@@magdagarroway909 I'm not sure if you are asking me or not, but I'll share based upon my statements surrounding the girl groups. I'll take your word for it that there are girls groups that are friendly for younger audiences, however, I'm not familiar with them. Kpop is very saturated and it's almost draining to be familiar with them all, at least for me anyway. But my husband and I decided not to allow our girls to be exposed to the girl groups because of the image they convey (sexy),their weight/size, and even some of the lyrics are borderline "mean-girls/proactive". Those are some of our reasons.

@@Dearest_Kenyetta makes sense and I totally agree on your choice. Mad respect for you and your husband not showing many of these toxic standards to chuldren and not teaching them bad stuff. As a 14 year old kid I agree with this type of parenting but it depends to all:D sorry if it offended anyone:/

@@Dearest_Kenyetta boy groups are very sexual too however? just saying as a conservative person i usually prefer my sister to watch specific female groups and not boy groups so theyre not as infatuated with men twice their ages and waste their time and ofc watch them (boy groups) rip open their shirts and hump the stage... not appropriate at all.. rather have them watch some mvs like blackpink, 2ne1 , apink etc

That's really sad...

Hmm…

I mean they literally sell their whole identity to these Entertainment industries. They decide what they eat and how they have to look like etc. so I highly assume that they don't.

From which group was she?

@@spaceblades5849 blady

I think it's depends of the body and the morphology, i think when a girl idol have a decent size of breast or/and hips she dont need pads

Lets take the BP members as examples. They arent exactly the frontrunners of having the biggest breasts nor hips - it does not seem like theyre using pads that much? or idk, not that ive looked specifically after it...and at least not when it comes to breast pads?

@@TheSeolyeon pad hips i don't think Jisoo seem having hips thicked than the others and Jennie/Lisa/Rosé seem having a thin waist but they dont have butt, i think at least Jennie use breast pad

Im also thinking about Rosé actually cuz it didnt seem like she was using anything doing her solo promos. Not too sure tho

@@NingKook_ all the bp members uses hips pads and breasts.

That is anybody in the entertainment industry. Looks are very important! one has to be extremely talented to be ok looking and successful in entertainment. Kpop just takes it a step further cuz they literally have no choice. In the usa it is more pressure from companies and comparisons to other celebs not contractual.

Hi, I watched several videos here on YT showing idols with and without hip pads. And yeah, the size seems always be the same : )

There are videos on it Jennie from BP, Nayeon from Twice

There are several videos like that already. Maybe you just didn't watch em yet

I honeslty don't really notice them. Alot of idols loose and gain weight pretty frequently between comebacks (not healthy but it happens) and your body can look a bit different depending on your clothing and camera angles, so it's not very risky to wear padding some days and not other days.

Thrice???????????????????