The TRAP of the HIGH-VALUE woman: every restaurant serves water 

A common refrain that I hear in my consultations with women is a disinterest in performing "low-value" work in their relationships. This can include things like cooking, cleaning, and (in some cases) sex. They often believe that doing this work makes them a "maid" or a "mommy" (or a "sex worker"), and that they would prefer to be utilized in a "higher-value" capacity. To save women the trouble, I decided to make an episode on my general response to this complaint. Book a paid consultation: oriontarabanpsyd.com/consultations Social Media Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090053889622 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/orion-taraban-070b45168/ Instagram: instagram.com/psyc.hacks Twitter: twitter.com/oriontaraban Website: oriontarabanpsyd.com Orion's Theme: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WrXBzQ2HDEQ.html Thinking of going to grad school? Check out STELLAR, my top-rated GRE self-study program based on the world's only empirically-validated test prep system. Use the code "PSYCH" for 10% off all membership plans: stellargre.com. Become a Stellar affiliate and earn a 10% commission for every membership purchased by a new student you conduct into the program: stellargre.tapfiliate.com. GRE Bites: www.youtube.com/@grebites4993 Become a Psychonaut and join PsycHack's member community: ru-vid.com/show-UCSduXBjCHkLoo_y9ss2xzXwjoin Sound mixing/editing by: valntinomusic.com Presented by Orion Taraban, Psy.D. PsycHacks provides viewers with a brief, thought-provoking video several days a week on a variety of psychological topics, inspired by his clinical practice. The intention is for the core idea contained within each video to inspire viewers to see something about themselves or their world in a slightly different light. The ultimate mission of the channel is to reduce the amount of unnecessary suffering in the world. #psychology #dating #relationship

One of my sisters is married to a wealthy man. The other sister doesn't understand why she's so agreeable with him and doesn't push back all the time on child rearing and some chores. I told her he gives her the life she wants and she gives him peace, that is the deal.

I overheard a conversation between two young adults that stuck with me. The girl: I’m going to marry a rich doctor so I don’t have to work. The boy: That doesn’t make sense because you don’t like to do domestic stuff and you don’t like kids. The girl: We will just hire a maid. The boy: Why would your husband want you around when you don’t do anything? Why not marry the maid? The girl: The maid is ugly, I’m attractive. The boy: Well, good luck because if I was the rich doctor, I would just marry the maid.

So many times I've heard women ask "where are all the good men", and I always give the same answer: "They're with the good women." They very rarely get my meaning.

Its shocking just how many women think that a wealthy man is going to pay all of their bills for literally no reason.

1. Be a pleasure. 2. Don't make my life harder than it was without you. Don't bring additional problems in my life. That's all.

Some women feel offended by Dr. Taraban, but I'm grateful to have the opportunity to hear some men's point of view. These are thoughts and reflections that not everyone will have the courage or even interest in telling us. This channel is a gem.

Im disgusted by anyone who thinks cooking and cleaning is beneath them.

Men are told we need to be patient, attenitive, and emotionaly open. Which every woman wants. When we ask for our three things were called names.

I am a woman, and I love your channel. The way you articulate common sense principles is brilliant.

I'm a 71 year old who has been a widow for 30 years. I hear a lot of wisdom in your advice.

Whole generations of men and women have been told lies about how relationships work, forcing an unrealistic, impossible fantasy world driven solely by material comforts and self centered-ness.

What you have described is exactly what my mother did after she married my father. She kept working for a couple more years after they married before she quit her job (she was making as much as my father) and they decided to have me. I once asked her a few years ago if it was worth it, quitting her job to become a housewife and mother. She smiled and told me that if she had another chance, she would make the very same decisions she made all those years ago.

The more women understand the male perspective, the better it is for both parties.

You’re pushing the act of explaining it all the way up to an art

I have an MBA and a corporate job which I love. I cook, clean, sew, do DIY home stuff. My husband has a double Master's degree & a corporate job. He also vacuums, does laundry and washes up. We work together to balance the necessary housework. We treat each other with appreciation, love and respect. We consider ourselves extremely fortunate to have a balanced, peaceful life where we support each other and attack any problem instead of attacking each other.

My wife does everything mentioned and does them well. She makes our home orderly, beautiful, and a place everyone we know loves to visit. I appreciate her so much for this and understand how uniquely valuable she is. There is no way I could live anything close to the happy, productive, and fulfilled lifestyle I have without her. And that's why she will NEVER want for anything, ever. She will be cared for, protected, provided for and lavished with love, affection, and yes, material things, even though she does not care so much about those things.

My grandma always told me the quickest way to a man's heart is through his stomach. Last night I made fresh naan, chicken shawarma, tzatziki, fresh veggies. The night before Korean style hot pot with cucumber salad. My man ain't going nowhere. And doing the dishes doesn't take long at all. I run the dishwasher every two days and we have a Roomba. I make the dishes he likes exactly the way he likes it. He isn't even aware how he likes his dishes and likely couldn't even get it at a restaurant. He makes more money than I do, so much so, I get to spend my money on clothes and random stuff. But in return, I take care of him so well he will never find greater comfort than at home. I don't know why women are against cooking, we all gotta eat. And eating takeout every day is very unhealthy. At max, I spend 2 hours in the kitchen a day. 1 hour if it's football night and all I'm doing is airfrying some wings and fries. The doc is right, this is an opportunity not servitude.

Wow. I've never even heard my own thoughts about ""what am I getting in return for increasing your quality of life dramatically" put so well! Thank you.

I was raised by the New Woman philosophy. When I married my husband, I was a terrible wife. But then I realized I married this man because I love him. Why not fix him a sandwich? I changed my mentality and became a good wife. He would tell me often that I was a good woman. He would brag about me to his friends. I fell so deeply in love with him when I changed how I treated him. ....and then he left me. He went into business with another woman and prioritized her relationship over mine. He has given her an enormous amount of money. And when I finally confronted him about it, he moved out and is continuing the business with her. She is 22. My heart is broken. We have been married for 13 years. He was my best friend. I just don't know what is happening. Its like he is not even the same person. 😢😢😢

I think the thing that is missing from most discussions about marriage and family is just that: people who value marriage and family will tend to get married - and have family. People who are immature or don’t value marriage and family will come up with checklists about what the other person will provide for them, it’s a complete one-way fantasy. There’s no discussion of extended family, of heritage, of culture, of religion and so on. What values they as a family want to pass on. The focus is on deal making, which is a sure way for a woman eventually wanting a divorce. Men are often surprised, thinking- I’m satisfied with the deal, why is she suddenly wanting a divorce?? The answer is “the deal”. She has been depersonalized to an employee and is now quitting.

This is why American and European men fall in love with Latinas so fast, because Latinas get this from an early age. As a man it’s literally the most satisfying thing to see how a feminine woman behaves and just makes you be the most masculine version you can be - it’s like magic.

Well done sir... You have eloquently described what modern society has lost... If this is what the ladies want, here's a clear-cut path to getting it.

They want it all: their career, marriage with a submissive husband whose emotionally available that allows her to be in control, children , a storybook romance, oh and a nanny and a housemaid & chef.

I'm a 40 year old single mother who worked at a grocery store, and this is how I married a man who makes 6 figures and owns a home. He goes to work, and when he comes home, I make certain that it's a place he looks forward to being. No fights, no demands, just peace and sex. When he's home, I wait on him and do everything I can to make sure he is comfortable and feels loved. He tells me all the time he believes he's the one who lucked out

Women are going to hate, and the same time respect the restaurant analogy. It couldn't have been constructed any better. 🙌

My girlfriend at the time said marry me or I am out. She had no job, no land, no savings. I had acerage, big house, sports cars, good job. I thought she would make a good mother. 8 years later, she divorced and took everything using the divorce court system. I slept in my car. My suggestion to young men, only marry a woman with similar resources, get a pre nup, keep money out of your marriage for back up. Never completely trust anyone with your life savings. The risk is too high.

Thank you! Your channel has acted like a catalyst for me to get back into the marketplace. I recently lost my significant other and after fully mourning her I wanted strategies for when I started dating again. The algorithm put me on to you, and it has been a great fit. I knew a lot of the techniques you talk about from working as a mental health skills trainer but how you put it together has been of great value to me. Thank you.

Some time ago, I went on a few dates over the course of 3 months with a woman who was a large animal veterinarian whose job kept her away from home. She would be on the road for up to a week traveling around the state. Everything was on her schedule. Eventually, we had a conversation about family life and the prospect of having children with a mother who was away all the time. She told me she didn't do house and would need help and would hire a nanny. To which I replied, "Is the nanny single?"

😂 I freaking love it here. The restaurant analogy was perfect. I'm happily married and I intend to stay that way. 💞

Yes, this fits my experience. Married 20+ years and a therapist. Educated modern women don’t really understand value. I built with my husband. Cooked and cleaned. Became agreeable. Had children and raised them well.

Imagine viewing your entire relationship like a transaction. Praying for y'all out there.

I LUCKED OUT - Married an M.D. that put herself through school modeling and we both help keep the house clean and cook. Another plus, neither of us wanted children.

4:12 "The only way that you're going to get what you want is by providing something I don't already have. The more I have, the harder that's going to be." 6:09 "The most dangerous man for a woman, is the man who has everything. Because if he has everything, he doesn't need you for anything." If you are a man who may even have little in life, but have an abundance mindset and feel fulfilled and happy in life without wanting more, it would make it practically impossible for a woman to provide something of value to a man.

I’ve known several couples who have taken the “economically equal” approach to their relationship, and they made themselves slaves to a never ending barter system. They count every dollar they “put in” to the “family” account, and every dollar the other person failed to put in.

A high value man is someone who has great morals, who will not abuse or cheat on you and who will be a loving and considerate companion. This video really addresses only women who are looking for men to provide financially for them. Most women can take care of themselves now a days.

One thing he didn’t mention is love. Love can’t be paid for, it can be faked by a professional, but no money in the world can make a woman truly love a man. A true heart connection is worth more than anything.

Orion, we need a behind the scenes of your meal prep and housekeeping for us bachelors trying to streamline things

This sh!t is hilarious. When it comes to dating, women HATE it when they have to consider anyone other than themselves.

My daughter's a doctor, she always said her mate didn't have to be a doctor, but he had to have the same level of ambition and dedication that she had in whatever he did. Turns out in her sub-sub-specialty fellowship, she fell in love with a doctor in that same fellowship. They've been together for 5-6 years now, and they both perform "low level work" at home.

Low value labor is the raw material we use to express great love for others.

I love this advice but I think it needs to be emphasized to the men that this dynamic only applies to those who are successful relative to the women who are interested in them. If you have no job, no ambition and no plan to progress in your standings, please do not go around demanding "obedience and agreeableness" from anyone.

Love the comment on Michelin restaurant experience. My husband always compliments me because of the LOVE I put into keeping our home and being a mother. Ladies, there is nothing better than taking care of your family. So many younger women want the lifestyle with no obligations or responsibility and they wonder why they are not happy or can’t find a man.🤔

No sugar-coating, just a straight up honest breakdown of what a guy needs and why.

The video was absolutely well put together. I like the bit about the high end restaurant serving ordinary things with enthusiasm and class. That was a clear, logical analogy. I also thought you were on point about egotism getting in the way. Man or woman, egotism is the self defeat of many, in some cases it kills. I just wanted to share, in addition, that something both men and women should remember is that your value is also contingent on what comes out of your mouth. Example, if a beautiful woman, well dressed, fit, attractive appearance ect. were to open her mouth and spout trashy sentiments and values, that would make her as appealing as a fermented diaper. Same goes for the men. If a person wants to get married they should consider what they can bring to the "table", not only "what's in it for me". I heard a quote in a show one time: " value receives value". Very true in more than one aspect

The problem started right from the very start. After years of self interested actions not realizing the impact on their SMV, they finally decide “I want to settle down and I want a family.” This notion is entirely self interested as well. You have to meet someone, love them, and have a family together. If it’s in a “I want notion” then the relationship and family dynamic will inevitably fall apart. You have to want a family with that person. Not that just you and want a family

And then there is the misconception that women tend to label themselves high value based on their own definition but it often doesn't translate to the same definition as men have for a high value woman.

High value men can afford lawyers but not a housekeeper? My parents always have had a housekeeper, a laundry service, a dog walker, a pool cleaner, a landscaper, etc. They have been married for 35 years and they enjoyed their time together and lived so well in their home together. My father was a high value man and wouldn’t have had my mom do menial work. Her greatest job was keeping her interior decorator on speed dial, planning parties and making my dad look like the successful man in the community but cleaning the house wasn’t something she did to prove she was devoted to my dad. This video is for men who can cover their bills and otherwise struggle and for women who are meeting these average men trying to decide if they want to take on the same struggle. High value men can afford both lawyers and housekeepers. My mom entertained my dad’s clients and business partners and that wasn’t something he could hire out for and it made him look good and he loved being a team with her. If a man is claiming he’s high value but wants his future wife to raise a family alone, he’s not high value. HV men know it takes good resources to build an empire and the same goes for a legacy. Struggle men want domestic labor because they can’t afford a family otherwise.

UNbelievable ! I can't imagine such negotiation ! I am 88 yrs, married in my youth , but I admit was lucky enough to find a smart, good person and a fine wife, an excellant mother to our daughters ; we didn't "negotiate" , married on the basis of attraction and love.

IF you want to understand women and avoid ending up with the wrong one please read " The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar". this book was written by a women about women.

That restaurant analogy was just brilliant. I love analogies and that one did exactly what an analogy is supposed to do: make it easier for the listener to get to the 'aha' moment.

Life’s a game of mixed doubles. You gotta know your role on the team.

short, concise, well organized and completely non-aggressive. very good video!

I have a colleague who I consider to be a high-value woman. In her early 30s, she is pretty, very intelligent and capable (PhD), whip-smart and quick in her thinking, happy and cheerful, happy to help, a great companion, vivacious, and basically a lovely person. Any thinking man would snap her up in a heartbeat. She's married to a man who is about the same age, also has a PhD, and is climbing the ladder in one of the largest US companies. He is a quiet and modest man who is very deferential to her career. She does all the cooking and they can afford the technology to do the necessary things like cleaning and facilitate cooking, but I can see how effective their partnership is. She could probably stop work and they would hardly notice the financial impact. But she is supporting his career first, without having a negative impact on hers. I think she's really got it right. They want children and it looks like they have set up their situation to start a family in the near future. Everything is looking very positive for them. He has a corporate career that allows him to work from home, and she has an academic career that gives her considerable time flexibility. They have a bright future.

crazy how you have to explain the most basic dynamics of a relationship to modern people. Our parents really failed us on this one

You are fantastic! I love hearing your presentations…they are simple and logical…and sooooo true! Thank you!❤

I cook, serve my husband & when he’s done eating, I take his plate and wash it! Bec while I was home, he woke up at dawn to work construction so our family could be provided for. I want him to always feel appreciated and cared for, it’s the least I can do for him.

The growth of this channel is absolutely insane. Well deserved.

It’s honestly embarrassing that women need to be told these things in their 20’s, let alone their 30’s or 40’s. Expecting men to provide value to you without providing them any value yourself is like expecting your job to pay you your salary without having to work. How did we ever let our culture get to this point???

I think the crux of the whole problem is that these days people approach relationships like it's a marketplace.

This is what so many people fail to recognize, if you offer no value to someone in their life then why would they invite you to be a part of their life?

Thank you so much for this content. As a 25 year old female, this is incredibly valuable.

What a great analogy regarding water and the restaurant. You eloquently described how the reservations some women have to do simple things with enthusiasm because it is 'beneath them' is a massive deterrent. Their self-evaluated worth deeming them 'too good' to do this makes them less of a good candidate. Also, really liked the comparison to marketing to see things from the client's perspective. I find that's something people don't really do or grasp much these days (even in marketing, somehow). Great vid.

Your talks are BRILLIANT ...... because you tells it how it is without waffle or mixing words !!!!

You absolutely nailed it! I wish I could send this to my wife who moved out recently but she probably isn’t ready to hear it. Keep it up, I appreciate the honesty.

It took over 20 years for my wife to figure out that her choice of meals were not the same as mine. ...........

I work with some very high paid women. Several of them have married men who are well below them in how much money they can make. However, these men are willing to take the lead on taking care of the home front, so they are of value to these women. So, it works both ways.

As a man in an equal relationship, I would never want to be in the position of the 'high value man' or the 'mediocre' valued woman in this hypothetical scenario. It seems so cold and ingenuine.

The hard truth that most high-achieving women simply can't understand is that the overwhelming majority of the type of men they want don't want them. There simply are too many choices that offer more peace, satisfaction, happiness, lower investment, and lowered risk. Prior to becoming these desired men, most of these men and even less desirable men learn to accept that what they want from most women is unattainable. It goes both ways for both genders just at different ttimes

My most recent ex of 3.5 years who is now 36 and I’m 37 couldn’t understand this. I have a 14 year old daughter that I have custody of. My ex came into my world knowing I wanted a mother figure for my daughter and knew that I wanted to have a family. Anytime I expressed my desire for her to be more helpful around the home she would say “you just want someone to cook and clean for you. You don’t care about me.” Or if I asked her to help with my daughter by taking her to school or something like that, she would say it didn’t make sense for her to have to wake up early just to take her to school. She would have a day off or she started her work day 3-4 hrs later than I did (she was a waitress and I a government contractor) but would say it made no sense for her to get up and take my daughter to school if I was already up. She couldn’t understand the importance of spending time like that with a child and also lightening my life by taking on some responsibilities. She even went as far to say “She’s your responsibility.” I’m a successful man that makes considerably more money than her. I stay in really good shape, a lot of women find me attractive, I’m outgoing, don’t cheat, don’t have a drinking or drug problem, I know how to cook, take care of everything in my home, can fix anything in a home or on a car, play sports, etc etc. She was clearly drawn to me because of these things, but she was unwilling to do anything for me because she felt like it was beneath her or I didn’t really care about her. That I just wanted a nanny/housemaid.

I do the majority of the cooking and cleaning. He helps with HIS bathroom *sometimes* and takes out the trash when I ask. But I do everything else. I am not working right now so it is my way of contributing to the home's well-being. Then, he has more energy to pursue his hobbies, which bring him joy and peace.

The trap of the high-value society: Nothing is ever enough.

Some of us take pride in our cooking, and enjoy nourishing the ones we love.

I remember my friend's mom would make these legendary Sunday brunches that were the envy of all our friend circle, and we'd all try to get invited over for it. It was immaculate. We appreciated her effort so much. They had cleaning services, and on occasion my friends dad cooked dinner, plus they went out often. The gave her the opportunity to be an artist with her meals and the style of the house.

I am a teacher and I love my job. After the kids grow up, I don't see why a woman should stop working and studying if she doesn't want to. The cleaning can be shared by the whole family and the cooking too. And I think each human being can do their own laundry.

My mother provided all three points and when she got older my father dumped her. She would have said to any young woman, get the best education or skills training you can get so you can look after yourself. if a woman stays home to raise children she doesn't accumulate the work experience etc she needs to get a job when she's dumped. btw, my father once told me, in my mother's presence, to get an education so i don't become a parasite like my mother.

Every woman gets to the point where their mere presence is no longer enough. They have to actually offer something in return.

He makes some good points in this video. I was never interested in this dynamic so I never got married nor had children. I do wish the spiritual aspects of a partnership/relationship/marriage were discussed more often. I worked in U.S. healthcare for 20 years in hospitals, schools, and nursing homes. I saw a lot of trauma in the hospitals and nursing homes. I know life can change quickly and unexpectedly. If I was ever with anyone, I'd like to know that person had my back (and vice versa). The cooking and cleaning can be worked out. A true partner/husband/wife is hard to find.

The Problem ist that chores are often seen as work with low value. It is also often associated with female oppression. What we need is a postive reinterpretation of the word 'chores'. Cleaning and cooking can be so satisfying for both, men and women.

If only I had you to help me during my dating years. Every woman thinks they're "high value", but so few really are. Most are ready to hand your head to you if they get the chance.

I had one woman try very hard to “integrate” herself into my life. We were barely dating, but she would come over and start doing shopping for me, cleaning, washing, even though I never asked or remotely suggested that is something I wanted. Maybe it’s because she wasn’t my type, but none those gestures really made any difference to me. I could do it all myself, faster, cheaper and better. I even found it annoying, for various reasons I won’t list. I know her current boyfriend from college, and the three of us went to the beach once. Afterwards, she was even changing his socks for him, as if he couldn’t do it himself. ☠️ I value slightly different things in a woman. I want us to be able to grow together, intellectually, travel a bit, eventually have a family. I would like her to at least contribute equally around the house without putting up any sort of attitude about it. And sure, sex is important too, but both people should enjoy it, not just one of us. It is far more important to me that I can trust her and not have to look over my shoulder to make sure some bs isn’t happening when I’m not around. Very few women or people in general inspire such trust from me.

They aren't looking for a high value man, they are looking for a sugar daddy.

Great tips. Classy kindness and attention to small details is huge and yields dividends.

I had to watch this 3 times in a row just cuz every sentence hit so hard and so true.

I learned a new word today... Alacrity: brisk and cheerful readiness. "she accepted the invitation with alacrity"

When I was a kid in the 80s, my father told me about one of his successful colleagues who was in a contractual relationship with a woman (not married - no govt.). This guy hit all the key metrics woman demand today. They had a contract which established division of all financial and other relationship related requirements (e.g. he paid the mortgage, she furnished the home; they each were responsible for their own vehicle, dinners, travel, etc.). This guy was way ahead of his time; it largely removes the biased third-party (govt). I wish this sort of relationship would become more common, but women are sold on fairy tales and worse.

I met a 90 yo woman once and as we talked she said she had been married for 70 years. I said, wow, what's the secret? She responded "Give 90% and expect 10%".

As a husband to a very successful woman who is younger than I am I do exactly this in reverse. Logs ready for winter, her car clean and serviced, food shopping done, house clean, laundry done. I have a job which gives me a lot of leave, I use the time I have to make her life easier. She respects the work I do, I enjoy helping her. Nothing I do for her is 'low status' as it's stuff you do anyway. I know that she could pretty much have any guy she wants, yet our relationship is stronger because we both take an even strain.

Love this guy! Truth bombs, truth bombs and MORE truth bombs. LMAO! No man wants to come home to an argument and a, "boss lady."

This one was brilliant. Doing a simple roleplay with the client and concluding that pride is stopping you from getting what you want.

Love the video. As a guy who already has his life together very well, you really hit the nail on the head for me. Also find it both funny and depressing so many women need it explained to them that they're supposed to bring value of some kind to the relationship... In my own LIVED EXPERIENCE, it is indeed very common to meet women who only ever thought of relationships in terms of what they want and what they can take from it. You're doing good work, Doc.

Dude, you make a whole lot of sense. Subscribed.

So, I suspect that the women who would take this advice, given their initial resistance, would do so only in the short term, as a way of baiting the trap. Once the bait is taken and the deal is sealed, the gradual evolution toward flipping the script would begin. Complaining about the tasks, followed by lots of discussions involving phrases such as "share of the household chores" and "share of the work", with a clearly lopsided list, which includes only those things that she is doing as "the work", to be divided. Ultimately, these women create the circumstances that necessitate the great majority of this work, while resenting any expectation that they actually do any of it. As you said, it doesn't take much effort to stay single and just take care of your responsibilities, but it is absolute misery to let someone into your life that's going to complain about and resent every little task and responsibility that arises.

I worked in a restaurant which asked me to always upsell customers to bottled water, coaching me to deliberately misinterpret any request for water as a chance to get an extra five dollars. That didn't go over so well even (or especially) with our old-money customers, who could pretty easily see through what the managers were trying to do. This was the early 90s, and I like the analogy you have drawn with some of the ideas about "equality" in dating I picked up around the same time. Both represent a very simplistic understanding of how people with choices behave over repeated interaction, short term gains which degrade repeat business, and probably only make sense in a bourgeois classroom about "management techniques" or "women's studies." Thanks to your transparent presentation I think I understand my life in restaurants in the 90s in, both as a waiter and as a (low-salary) man taking women on dates, a lot better.

The value that wasn’t mentioned in those three things is the value of a true partner in life, a teammate who is always in your corner. You don’t hire them to listen to you, they are there with you thru thick and thin because they love you and want to be with you.

By far, one of the best shows I’ve watched since subscribing. So much so, even looked for the “donation based on what I thought the content was worth” link. However, did/do not see it. Anyways, you had me literally saying “Yes! Exactly!!” out loud. Thanks for putting words to what I have rattling around in my head regarding “modern women”

That's prob one of the most brilliant explanations ive ever heard

I have a cleaning service and dating apps are great...Marriage to a modern woman does nothing for me and is a complete waste of money and emotional energy....

NAILED IT, Doc! These women should really listen to you! Modern Feminism has lied to them! Reminds me of a joke I heard recently. Woman comes to her BF and tell him her car is acting up and not starting and can he fix it. He says, "Sure, can you make me a sandwich while I'm out there, I'm getting hungry." She storms off and says, "what the hell, I'm not your Mommy, make your own sandwich!" Guy says, "Fine, I will. Let's see who's worse off, you without a car, or me having to make my own sandwich!" It's a simple joke, but gets the point across!

The agreeable obedience to benefit the man's life is spot on. My partner was not willing to be with me due to my hesitancy and thinking that he was trying to control me. Realized this after I matured a bit more and trying to work things out with him now.