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Rotoscoping changed animation forever. This is how.
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One breakthrough made animation look natural. And it involved a clown dancing on a roof.
In this episode of Vox Almanac, Vox’s Phil Edwards explores the beginning of rotoscoping, a technique animators can use to create realistic motion. Invented by Max Fleischer of Fleischer Studios (and echoed and practiced by many others), it involves taking filmed footage and using it as a traceable model for animation. The results are fluid and natural in a way animation had never been before.
As the above video shows, it started with Max’s brother Dave dancing on a roof in a clown costume. Footage of that was then used to model the classic Koko the Clown cartoons, which formed the basis for many Fleischer Studios films. Today, animators still use techniques like rotoscoping to turn real movement into animation.
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You can also read Man and Superman: The Fleischer Studio Negotiates the Real in Quarterly Review of Film and Video by J.P. Telotte, which describes the techniques used for the animated Superman series.
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The Fleischer Story by Leslie Cabarga is invaluable for any early animation fan and has lots of trivia you won’t find anywhere else.
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@Vox 4 года назад

If you want to learn more about early animation, check out this video about the delightfully weird origins of stop motion. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-80CKTOjjZFQ.html

@thanos4959 4 года назад

Vox ok

@tyleroliveira10 4 года назад

*stocks*

@winpuss 4 года назад

I want to know more about ub iwerks

@jascrandom9855 4 года назад

Now you have to talk about Sakuga Animation.

@darknessviking 4 года назад

wow im almost 40 year old and i just learned something, thanx dude

@naughtiusmaximus789 4 года назад

Imagine *Walt Disney* coming up with Rotoscoping, and the patent would've NEVER EXPIRED.

@wylnd 4 года назад

We have screens now :D

@chrismarinohardin9929 4 года назад

Naughtius Maximus you are mixing up copyrights and patents. Disney has lobbied up copyrights forever, not invention patents.

@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 4 года назад

@@chrismarinohardin9929 Nope, the OP is right. Both patents and copyrights are different sides of the same coin; one to protect inventions and the other to protect artistic creations, so to speak, but that can all be summed up as intelectual property and we all know very well how Disney tends to treat its IP. Don't forget that copyright also used to expire after a while until Disney started to lobby against it and successfully managed to have legislation changed through bribery, effectively extending it until forever. Disney wouldn't let diabetics get a hold of insulin if it had that patent!!! I shudder to think of a world where Disney has ownership of important inventions of any kind...

@ileanabriannemari 4 года назад

@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 Kinda sad about what Disney is now and what it used to be on the the time Walt was alive. Now it's just...remakes and copyright stuff.

@iamerror2091 4 года назад

I know this is a joke, but Disney isn't exempt from patent expiration. For example, the omnimover created in '67 by Disney, now can be used by anyone since it's patent has expired with parks such as KIng's Island having used the ride system in the past.

@RichardHannay 4 года назад

They used rotoscoping in A-Ha’s “Take On Me” music video

@davidlizom7556 4 года назад

I wish music videos these days had more creative stuff like that

@ChibiNyaNya 4 года назад

:0 wow I would’ve never guessed!1!1

@3rikfreshgeneration349 4 года назад

What thats cool . i always wonder about that. The first time i got high i watched a-ha "take on me" thanks for the info

@nenidetic 4 года назад

I think that's pretty obvious, considering they occasionally turn back into normal people throughout the video

@VerdeMorte 4 года назад

*AND IT STILL LOOKS AMAZING TODAY*

@amanul_2474 4 года назад

Walt Disney: I revolutionised animation! Max Fliecsher: Hold my clown...

@matrixate 3 года назад

You mean, hold on you rat.

@ramonsancheztorello7111 3 года назад

Max Fleischer pioneered the creation of animation techniques. Walt Disney pushed and perfected the potential of these and other techniques in animated films. Both are capital figures in the history of animation.

@Princess_of_cute 3 года назад

@Robert Barry Max wasn't pushed of by Disney. It was wanted that Fleischer tames Betty, what was a fall, as at that point the attention fell. Who would want to see a character that was free as a bird, in the dress of a normal woman doing laundry. It's a shame and I hate Disney for taking all credit.

@matthewzakszewski2205 2 года назад

😂😂😂

@dejazO0 2 года назад

*mcdonald

@isabellebernard5292 2 года назад

Speaking as an animator, rotoscoping can be great, but it's important to remember that it quickly ends up looking floaty and weightless. It's best to copy the main poses and look at the breakdown, but amplify the timing and spacing to fit better

@Kal-El207 Год назад

How’d you become an animator?

@isabellebernard5292 Год назад

@@Kal-El207 Went to an animation school, The Animation Workshop, and got a degree in Character Animation

@emcaco Год назад

Yes! You have to note balance changes and ground contact. I'd like to add an example for people reading this: Things like a foot lightly stepping on the ground could be nearly missed in video reference looking at the frame by frame, but in animation you'd often want to exaggerate that contact. By anchoring the foot in place, or showing the shift in balance from heel to toe more obviously. It could take more frames than in the reference, but you compensate with a faster 'spring' from the ground in the rest of the step.

@joselkimdelacruz5127 Год назад

Thanks guys. I just tried animation, like a literal amateur using Flipaclip. Will try this.

@jddrewes 4 года назад

"You can patent a device, but you can't patent a dance!" -Carlton wants to know your location

@LetsTakeWalk 4 года назад

William Drewes Still true. Also, Carlton’s dance was copied from a dance Bruce Springsteen.

@handcoding 4 года назад

I know that you’re mostly joshing, but Vox is right-you can’t patent a dance. If anything, copyright would be what would apply to dances (including Carlton’s dance), and as that goes, you might check out Legal Eagle’s video “Carlton v. Fortnite - Copyright Dance -Off” for some analysis from a real lawyer about whether dances are copyrightable. (Spoiler: It so happens that “simple” dance routines are explicitly not copyrightable. Now you might be asking, “Is Carlton’s dance a ‘simple dance routine’?” Well, that much may be for the courts to decide.)

@smallies7154 4 года назад

send location

@RealJoey600 4 года назад

You can copyright a dance, it just needs to within a larger sequence of syncopated moves. So instead of a singular move, the whole routine is under copyright

@lukerinderknecht2982 4 года назад

He actually said "you can patent a device but you can't patent that". The "that" he was referring to was the "different type of genius" it took to create this, not the dance.

@RobertJRoman 4 года назад

Fleischer cartoons were weird, but great. Their downfall came from two sources. One was that the Fleischer brothers fought as much as the Gallagher brothers of Oasis. The other was that Disney raised the stakes with Snow White, leading the Fleichers to make Gulliver's Travels, which was a studio-killing flop.

@PhilEdwardsInc 4 года назад

Sounds like you already know the history, but to anyone lurking in the comments, that book by Leslie Cabarga is a great read. It lets you imagine an alternate history for animation (one that would have been deliciously weird). And, of course, it lets you know why it didn't happen.

@WillWivellAnimator 4 года назад

The final nail in the Fleischer coffin: their attempt at a second feature, Mr Bug Goes to Town, had its Christmas release cancelled after Pearl Harbor was attacked and the US entered the Second World War.

@MizzKittyBichon 4 года назад

They really should have highlighted Snow White instead of Gulliver's Travels since it came first and was much more groundbreaking at the time than the latter.

@RobertJRoman 4 года назад

@@MizzKittyBichon Perhaps, but the innovations of the Fleischers began more than a decade earlier.

@kymmzej9173 4 года назад

Cartoon history Thank you for sharing that with us!

@rachelmcdonough1506 Год назад

I miss the old style of animation where literally every object could become anthropomorphic at any moment and then go back to normal and no one cared. What happened to that?

@zappers8027 Год назад

You.. didn't cared? as in.. you did not noticed?

@pyros6139 Год назад

The Amazing World of Gumball did that a little bit.

@RayPointerChannel Год назад

Animation started becoming more literal, lead mostly by Disney's leaning towards naturalism. On of the few times he went back to that was in shorts like Little Toot, SUZIE THE BLUE COUP, and the feature, ALICE IN WONDERLAND.

@rachelmcdonough1506 Год назад

@@zappers8027 meaning that the characters aren’t amazed by the inanimate objects moving- they just treat it as part of life.

@graysonwells21 7 месяцев назад

Well, unless you can find a creative spin for it, I feel most people would think the bit is a little dated and run dry…

@HAXAD 3 года назад

Twitter: "Tracing is a crime against the art community!" People in the 1900s:

@lyraleen1504 3 года назад

Tracing other peoples art its the crime, tracing real people its ok

@stxllr4687 3 года назад

@@lyraleen1504 exactly. as an artist myself tracing other ppls art is definitely not allowed (espc. if you claim it as your own). but using irl references are recommended because well, what other reference can you use?

@lyraleen1504 3 года назад

@@stxllr4687 yeah, when I get my digital pen (I dont remember the name In english) I Will trace real people for training

@stxllr4687 3 года назад

but to add onto that: maybe instead of tracing real people, try doing something like gesture drawing. you pretty much 'copy' the exact pose, but rather than just directly trace over, you make inferences for form and line and shape.

@lyraleen1504 3 года назад

@@stxllr4687 ok, i will try it, thanks

@Jobe-13 4 года назад

I heard rotoscoping freaked people out when it was first used.

@Ajourneyofknowing 4 года назад

Yubi K. - it is unnatural when the animated movements doesn’t seemed synced up with the character.

@Spaghettiboy359 4 года назад

Yeah i still find it a little uncanny in some applications

@Physeter 4 года назад

Uncanny valley :)

@Sketchy_Dood 4 года назад

I mean it looks human but cartoony

@cheesyquokka 4 года назад

Hmm

@TheMgutierrez 4 года назад

I mean with lyrics like "She messed around with a bloke named Smokey She loved him though was cokey He took her down to Chinatown And he showed her how to kick the gong around". This cartoon is pretty trippy

@altheaequatorin1179 4 года назад

Michael Gutierrez hideho!

@royaldeer87 4 года назад

@@altheaequatorin1179 hee Dee he dee

@namejeff5849 4 года назад

Ho de go de ho de ho!

@siddharthiyer7244 4 года назад

@@namejeff5849 Hi dee hi dee hi dee hi!

@lonewretch 3 года назад

@@siddharthiyer7244 brrrrrrrt. ain't a playa' if he ain't know my WAP. how things have changed.

@matthewishunting 3 года назад

My dad was a rotoscoper for disney 1980-1993. From Tron to Aladdin, we had plenty of frames of in between shots of animation he'd bring home for us to see

@rayx1679 Год назад

That's awesome

@ricj9594 Год назад

Wow that's so nice

@TheAccursedEntity 4 года назад

I always wondered why old cartoons had better movement than those of the 80's and 90's.

@jamonrandomstuff4294 2 года назад

Same

@fzcbh4698 2 года назад

Actually the 80s & 90s are good but not that great as 30s-50s The real disaster decades are the 60s and 70s were 90% of the animations are limited and not traditional.

@justsomeguywhoexploreforfu8236 2 года назад

@@fzcbh4698 I think these new animation that are 2020s are worser then 90s 80s or old cartoons.

@roxassora2706 2 года назад

@@justsomeguywhoexploreforfu8236 That's cause you look at things with rose-tinted glasses.

@iniquitouslemon5975 2 года назад

@@fzcbh4698 Limited can be traditional

@duchi882 4 года назад

*For some reason* This made me feel nostalgic of the time when I was not even born

@wendel5868 4 года назад

Duchi There is a name for that, but I cant remember. Its pretty common feeling.

@shadowkillz9606 4 года назад

This feeling is called *Anemoia*

@kerzariz8717 4 года назад

I have always wondered what is the term for that.

@thanos4959 4 года назад

Duchi same

@rebeccagibbs4128 4 года назад

Ah yes, all the financial depression, segregation, polio and subjugation of women; sounds peachy!

@KarlBunker 4 года назад

I love thinking about Cab Calloway laughing hysterically at the animation of himself as a walrus. And anyone who hasn't seen Betty Boop Minnie the Moocher should look it up ASAP.

@idavis094 4 года назад

I remember watching it in my History of Animation class. It's still one of my favorite Fleischer animations.

@antisfoxes 3 года назад

@@idavis094 OMG YOU'RE SO LUCKY!!

@idavis094 3 года назад

@@antisfoxes how am I lucky? It was part of the that college class. We went through a lot of different animators and animations.

@wizzelhoart Год назад

Big Mouth

@Alkivo 2 года назад

4:28 I find it really wholesome that Cab loved the animation so much he fell to the floor laughing

@robynstopped 2 года назад

Cab Calloway is unbelievably influential. Even his dance moves now stand out in 2022 as uniquely his own. Fletcher absolutely picked the perfect dancer to rotoscope.

@SeeASquaRE 4 года назад

Rotoscoping is still heavily used for harder sequences that require intricate movement. Like ice-skating or dancing etc. It's a cool technique but is used rarely since principles have evolved in animation that now that can make the job of animating something almost close to realism possible through raw skills and intuition. Edit: However even though Rotoscoping is used, it is still hard to do. The movements when traced from an actor will never feel natural and have generally "wonkiness" in their motion, it is usually difficult to account for *every* subtle movements in the human body. So a ton of cleanup work and corrections have to be performed for it to look convincing and in a way still requires a lot of skills as an animator.

@akinmytua4680 4 года назад

I think a lot of Yuri on Ice is rotoscoped. (And I love it for it)

@hamzahamid2543 4 года назад

@@akinmytua4680 I instantly thought of Yuri too, so nice scenes!

@bbumbs747 4 года назад

I would say that though rotoscoping does have it's strengths it also has weaknesses specifically when it comes to the uncanny valley with its movements,but I can't deny that yeah it is still a pretty useful tool,you just have to know when and when not to use it

@chingizzhylkybayev8575 4 года назад

@@bbumbs747 uncanny valley is strictly about faces. You can simply trace the body movements without tracing the face and you will not have any uncanny effects. The effect came from a weird and uncalled for decision of some animators to trace not only body movements but mimics as well.

@hellfish2309 4 года назад

Undone on Amazon Prime 👌👌

@bellibarra 4 года назад

What I loved about fleischer studios was their absurdity in making cartoons. People are quick to refer to Disney when talking about old animation but fleischer's weird style is what their most likely talking about subconsciously. If people thought disney was weird back then; they we're merely watching a watered down version of fleischer's cartoons.

@joshsampson5598 2 года назад

So true, it is so upsetting what happened to fiescher studio, I mean disney great and all but nobody gives enough credit to the Fleicher's cartoons

@alzack112 2 года назад

*they're *were

@StitchXDHD 2 года назад

@@alzack112 Congrats, you've corrected a 2 year old comments incorrect use of words! On the internet no less! Truly a hero. /s

@hatsunemiku5386 2 года назад

@@alzack112 congrats

@staringcorgi6475 10 месяцев назад

But disney made superior cartoons and even animated films like fantasia and snow white what did fleisher have to show compared to fantasia mr. Bug goes to town?

@cleopatraonlyfans 2 года назад

I can’t believe this is how we got the Rotoscope guy from Smiling Friends

@MillennialMcGuyver 4 года назад

So Max Fleischer pre-dates Disney’s depth camera?! This is all amazing to me. So much freaking talent...

@NestorCustodio 4 года назад

Oh wow, I had no idea the Fleischers had *invented* the rotoscope. That explains so much about their studio's success when the late 70's cartoon explosion came about.

@ghoulishjoe 4 года назад

You mean 30s-40s?

@RobertJRoman 4 года назад

Ralph Bakshi was the primary Rotoscoper in the late 70s

@cheesyquokka 4 года назад

Yeah

@davidbanan. 3 года назад

70s? Fleicher studios went bankrupt in the 40s

@RayPointerChannel Год назад

@@davidbanan. It was more complicated than that.

@sweetbread4190 4 года назад

Finally, Cab Calloway is getting the recognition he deserves !

@antisfoxes 4 года назад

Exactly!

@ratpiss147 3 года назад

the character design for King Dice from Cuphead was inspired from Cab Calloway :,)

@antisfoxes 3 года назад

@@ratpiss147 mhm!

@thehunterator520 2 года назад

Go watch the blues brothers, he is in that movie

@Kal-El207 Год назад

You just learned about him.

@angelinegerardi9082 4 года назад

I’ve done this before, as a short movie for the Academy of Creative Technologies(ACT) with layers in photoshop in ‘01. I as an artist didn’t know the depth of the history of the work I was doing, and you filled that gap. Thank you.

@arcang2102 2 года назад

"You can patent device,but you can't patent That!" Cab Caloways super- stylish-swag,was pricelessly- timeless!He took the bland standard, dry stiffness,out of Max Fleischers creative mechanical clever animation!Amongst others who Bit-n-Rippd his 1 of a kind class-act,"Birth of Cool",Be-Bop Hip figurative,origin of Original "RagTime" smooth moves!In the Real 20's Cab was "The Man"he put everybody on The Map!"Heide, Heidi,Heide-Ho!"Along with The only Chick, that was too Cool for School,was Betty-Boop!"Boo- Boopy-Doop" (Cold-Dope download)Thanx!!

@bruh-lg6ch 4 года назад

2:22 look at this poor clown, he lost one of his AirPods

@JoseFloresEC 4 года назад

bruh

@Purzify 4 года назад

Bruh

@5people829 4 года назад

Bruh

@HydroEntertainment901 4 года назад

Bruh

@idioticanimator1257 4 года назад

Bruh

@ajshim 4 года назад

Don't forget without Rotoscoping lightsabers in Star Wars would still be sticks that actors are trying to avoid as if they were threatening.

@ohrusty 2 года назад

Watching this video was awesome. It's kind of hard to explain to ppl just how groundbreaking this sort of cartoon-making was done. I don't expect future ppl to watch this whole video, either (if I were to recommend it) but it kind of leaves me with butterflies in my stomach. Thanks for making the video.

@fetusdeletus9266 3 года назад

I now want to found a movement in the world of filmmaking where we go back to the old ways and make these really weird but oddly beautiful cartoons with flowing animation that blurs and focuses the line between actual footage and animation in the best ways possible

@melchizedekpsj 4 года назад

Yes, the animation of Fujiwara Chika from the ending of Kaguya-sama: Love is War was also achieved through rotoscoping. Thanks a lot for the video!

@vividclarities7860 4 года назад

I can't wait for Kaguya-sama S2

@ubayyd 4 года назад

Haha wow

@gtabro1337 4 года назад

Thanks to Ghostemane - Mercury the interest in this animation resurfaced for a while

@johnathanmiranda9065 4 года назад

gtabro1337 they didn’t start it

@shadowrealmcitizen1149 4 года назад

Agree. I instantly recognized the dance when I saw the thumbnail. Even played the music in my mind for seconds lol.

@Coal-RubL 4 года назад

gtabro1337 this is also used in the reverb of "kid kudi" by playboi carti

@nxxdle_ 4 года назад

elder reid ya because the creator of that was most likely inspired by mercury by ghostemane

@Coal-RubL 4 года назад

Needle_Man no his came before ghostemane's... other way around

@ruiqiumai323 4 года назад

Always good to see Cab Calloway and Koko being brought up. I didn’t find out about them until this year even though they’re a part of entertainment history.

@OlafLesniak 4 года назад

Vox: You can patent devices, but you can't patent dance moves. Floss Kid: Hi

@cassanateli 4 года назад

Olaf Lesniak He didn’t Patent it though..?

@DaP84 4 года назад

His greedy mom wanted to. The mooves were even done by a bunch of people, some RU-vidrs, years earlier.

@Bakedcakeyyy 4 года назад

I don’t think you can patent or copyright INDIVIDUAL dance moves but you can do so for full choreographies as it is considered an art form I think that was why it didn’t go through

@hermeticallysealed1 4 года назад

You realize that this was all back 80 years or so ago. No, back then, you wouldn't be able to.

@goodmaro 4 года назад

@@Bakedcakeyyy No, that would be matter for copyright. Theoretically a dance move could be patented, because methods of doing things are indeed patentable. It's just that it would be very hard to prove novelty and utility of a dance move -- and you couldn't get a design patent for a dance move, only a utility patent.

@nicholas_scott 4 года назад

Snow White used rotoscoping long before the patent expires. Though Disney and fleichter did work together on some projects

@blossomingbeelzebub 4 года назад

I dont believe they did actually! I think they filmed an actress doing Snow Whites actions in full costume, but only used it as reference. They didnt actually rotoscope the images.

@JainaSoloB312 4 года назад

@RyanLaVoisin I can't speak to Snow White, but I know they didn't rotoscope for Sleeping Beauty about 20 years later, they just used the live performances as reference. Aurora dipping her toes into the water, dancing, and even Prince Philip battling the great dragon-form Maleficent were all performed by the actors on set to use as reference for the animators, there's even a very limited amount of footage of these

@kin2naruto 4 года назад

No, they used refrence video and prints of the still photos behind a lightbox. There is still copies of the refrence videos you can compaire - and its not exact. Rotoscoping has a very reconizable... jitter to it. Even modern computer rotoscoping can still have problems with jitter.

@ramonsancheztorello7111 3 года назад

The patent for the rotoscope expired in 1934, the same year that Snow White's production started. In fact, Max Fleischer upon learning that Disney was using the rotoscope tried to sue him for patent infringement, but finally didn't do so because he realized that the patent expired in 1934, and the technique was already in public use. And neither Fleischer nor Disney worked together on any projects, with the exception of the live-action film 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, directed by Richard Fleischer (Max Fleischer's son).

@Atombender 3 года назад

@@ramonsancheztorello7111 Snow White was made in 1933.

@PinkPopcorn999 4 года назад

It would be interesting to learn about the animation outsourcing industry. Many people don't know that their favorite cartoons were animated in the Philippines, Korea, India, etc. The Philippine animation industry beginnings are really interesting! It would be great to have Vox cover this.

@captainthrall 3 года назад

What an amazing video. It was informative, in-depth, interesting, and entertaining. Honestly I just wanted to know what rotoscoping was exactly. I wasn't expecting a quick 5 minute video to have such a dramatic impact, but for the rest of my life I'll never forget what you taught me about rotoscoping, Cab Calloway, and Fleischer Studios. You guys really knocked this one out of the park. Well done. Thank you!

@everberry51 4 года назад

Oooh that’s why I always wondered why backgrounds in old cartoons looked so realistic! Awesome!

@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051 4 года назад

The Rotoscoping effects on Lord Of The Rings scared me when I was younger. Those Orcs looked like they could be from a Black Metal band

@Coal-RubL 4 года назад

The Colorization Channel RIGHT?!?! Im honestly shocked that so many people know what you are talking about. I love love love that film so much.

@post-leftluddite 4 года назад

Ralph Bakshi's work has been a love of mine since I first saw Wizards when I was 5 years old (1989)..after that I sought out his entire catalog and to this day, I own The Lord of the Rings, Wizards, Fire and Ice, American Pop, etc on VHS

@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051 4 года назад

@@post-leftluddite I honestly think that American Pop is my favourite Ralph Bakshi film

@WZRD095 4 года назад

Let’s not forget the ring wraith midnight hit men murder scene with realistic stabbing sounds. Sweet dreams, 7 year old me.

@videojeff01 3 года назад

Me too. I love Wizards and Fire and Ice! Some of my favorite films.

@tested2032 4 года назад

So that’s how they made the Chika dance look so good

@LetsTakeWalk 4 года назад

Test ED Fun fact, the Chika dance was NOT rotoscoped.

@AldoLop 4 года назад

Awesome! , didn't know someone else watched Chika dance and Vox

@paipepaipe9565 4 года назад

Wait no, my bad, it was rotoscoped, confirmed by the show director

@kawakiuzumaki8166 4 года назад

man of culture

@ali99_82 4 года назад

Madlad

@chb2005 4 года назад

Love the Vox Almanac series. Keep them going!

@Destin5258 4 года назад

So animation started with motion capture, and now we have finally come full circle. Amazing.

@jasonbarraza3553 4 года назад

I could definitely see people being either unsettled or wonderfully intrigued by this when it first came out. Its like all of a sudden, drawings were moving like they were alive and it must’ve had a sort of uncanny valley feeling at first, still kind of does. Its sort of like how it seems a little odd or impressively alarming seeing those boston dynamics robots being able to do parkour and do perfect backflips and stuff. It seems a little too real for comfort for a lot of people.

@hellatina Год назад

I was thinking exactly the same. Two years later!!!

@casir.7407 4 года назад

god i love this so much.... i love that this is now becoming more popular and well known. also cab calloway had some amazing songs. id love for you guys to tackle lotte reiniger, master of shadow animation, one of my favorite animators and one of the first animation film directors (who, yes, directed a fully animated feature film before disney came with snow white). she and his husband have a fascinating history, from rubbing elbows with berthold brecht and fritz lang while in germany, to working in italy with the most respected italian directors at the time. (also she used multiplane cameras even before these guys, so)

@nandwani88 4 года назад

Yo! This video just brought back so many things I learnt in my History of Animation class at the UofL in Lethbridge! Took it as a blow off class and had no idea so much still stuck with me. Nice!

@roobindebbarma2957 3 года назад

0:26 that groovy music..

@shanekimberlin 4 года назад

Phil Edwards, the work you do for Vox is absolutely wonderful. It inspires me, and most, most likely, many others to look at the world a little differently and try something new. Thank you.

@Shinjo_Ms 4 года назад

I'd love to see you guys approach documenting the video games evolution or their own narrative, animation, planning, programming or visual art progress through the years or on certain games that changed history. Great content guys! One of my top 5 favorite RU-vid channels

@laylover7621 4 года назад

I love Vox editing, seriously. Great videos guys.

@LighterXD Год назад

I wonder how proud these people would be of modern day animators Cause like a majority of us don’t do this anymore well people who don’t rotoscope we have to come sit in our head and I wonder how impressed I would be by that

@dragonskunkstudio7582 4 года назад

I wanted a reference on how to go from sitting on the ground to standing up. I found a video and rotoscoped it, sort of. The problem with rotoscoping, you risk entering the motion version of the uncanny valley. Since I'm using a 3D model I tend to have the video in the scene next to the actor instead of directly over. That way it is still manual animation driving the character.

@natesmith3949 4 года назад

Rotoscoping is a valuable tool in any animators arsenal but it tends to put characters in the uncanny valley, meaning it has that creepy effect of being almost life-like but not quite. The real breakthrough came from the 12 principles developed by Disney animators in the 30’s and 40’s and described in detail by Ollie Johnston and Frank Thomas in their book, The Illusion of Life.

@stroopwafelfalafel 3 года назад

Internet artists: Noooo! You can’t just learn about movement and anatomy from other people! That’s pose theft! Delete your account or I’ll report you noooOOO! Golden age animators:

@animatorireenie8319 3 года назад

I'm an artist too and believe me, it annoys me a lot. I'll use rotoscoping as inspiration anyways.

@Im_Your_Doraemon 3 года назад

Are you talking about twitter?

@cookieoreouwu2521 2 года назад

So basically Disney when they 2D animated, they didnt draw stuff by theirselves, they just traced??

@merakkin 4 года назад

I love so much this cartoon where Koko becames the ghost and sings St James infirmary, it's just so well done and beautiful

@dogood8661 4 года назад

Each video of Vox is a masterpiece. An absolute joy to see and hear ♥️♥️♥️

@16o6oo 4 года назад

taking a summer animation class in a couple months and vox rlly be hyping it up for me even more w all these videos aaaa!! ❤️❤️❤️

@DhirajKyawal 4 года назад

you're gonna love it!

@maryjanesabott5183 4 года назад

The Wolpertinger good for you man

@AdamFerrari64 4 года назад

Max Fleischer’s Rotoscope invention and his stereoptical 3D process were AMAZING for early animation!

@RayPointerChannel Год назад

That's not all that Max invented. He had a early form of Aerial Image compositing in 1924 where the animation was photographed frame by frame over projected live action. That was the Rotograph.

@katamekothriis1613 Год назад

I absolutely love the style of the Fleischer cartoons, it was amazing even seeing the style adapted into a video game when Cuphead came out. I think my favorite will always be the Betty Boop as Snow White cartoon with Koko singing Cab Calloway's "St James Infirmary Blues" not just because of the dancing and singing, but because of how if you look at the background you'll see different imagery reflecting the lyrics as they're sung!

@DinoWinoSaur 4 года назад

Amazing storytelling and production. Thank you Vox.

@lanolinlight 2 года назад

I feel so ancient watching a formerly commonly known practice like rotoscoping (seen in the original Star Wars laserblasts, Tron, Ralph Bakshi films, etc) discussed like some rare archaeological find.

@tibormalinsky8751 4 года назад

The animations where everything talks or just beahve weirdly are amazing. I love ‘em.

@altheaequatorin1179 4 года назад

cab calloway is such a legend.

@AimShootDevelop 4 года назад

I’ve been incorporating this into my work and it’s stepped it up 10x !

@marco.nascimento 4 года назад

amazing, those Cab Calloway animations are incredible

@yash05195495 4 года назад

It’s so amazing to see the change in technology so fast!

@imjody 4 года назад

Very interesting stuff. Thanks for this, Vox!

@DCeeMusik 4 года назад

I always loved the Fleischer's style of animation. To me, it was the precursor to motion capture. Who would've thought this little studio in New York would be the innovator for Hollywood in the future. Disney wouldn't have pushed for more innovation it wasn't for Fleischer Studios.

@CaptainCretaceous91 2 года назад

I thought they were based on Maimi.

@ThePapaja1996 2 года назад

@@CaptainCretaceous91 they became that

@sledzeppelin 2 года назад

That Betty Boop short has so many bizarre ideas that were so great they would later become tropes. Absolutely brilliant.

@robfriedrich2822 2 года назад

3:30 Disney tried to sell this process as something he developed. But the German Fischerkoesen Cartoon Wheatherbeaten Melody has also the use of multiplan camera

@Kevin-lh1lt 4 года назад

*Now you'll never know why this comment got so many likes* 😂

@ferrancotinocarrasco4665 4 года назад

*Wrong* It knows us even better than us😳

@Kevin-lh1lt 4 года назад

@@ferrancotinocarrasco4665 hahaha that's a better one buddy!

@michaelandre6157 4 года назад

Because you spend more time watching videos on RU-vid than talking to your parents

@Kevin-lh1lt 4 года назад

@@michaelandre6157 or maybe it was just humourous to write a comment like this one, you take stuff like this seriously buddy?

@narwhal5447 4 года назад

@@Kevin-lh1lt it's a fact lol

@GlassheartRecords 4 года назад

If you haven't seen the Fleischer Superman films, you are doing yourself an incredible disservice. Also if you get the chance, check out KaptainKristian's video essay that goes over those films a ton, it's a great video from an underrated RU-vidr.

@fyeknight5705 6 месяцев назад

Man to think I pretty much had everything shown in this video on VHS. That superman villain from the robot one was unhinged. Gulliver's Travels was lit too, that one little goofy guy that finds him always gets me.

@WestVirginia1959 Год назад

I loved that you showed how they did it. Very interesting!❤️

@timsullivan4566 4 года назад

Producers for celluloid debut of "The Fantastic Four" initially thought Rex Reed's super-stretchiness could best be created with a technique combining Motion-capture with Rotoscoping, but eventually were forced to abandon this approach after failing to secure for their modeling process any real-life footage of human limb spaghettification.

@caise3910 4 года назад

oh, this is definitely cool beans.

@tyleroliveira10 4 года назад

KatsuraMu *E*

@jakecg973 4 года назад

KatsuraMu Cool beans it is

@yc2877 4 года назад

Most definitely

@ardendarling5613 2 года назад

I was about to say that you were underselling animation by tying its success so heavily to rotoscoping, but you seemed to have made up for it with that ending. Good work!

@sandyg.8318 4 года назад

I love rotoscoping in animation. When done right it’s beautiful.

@arthoe5885 4 года назад

the dancing walrus literally looks terrifying I wish I never saw that abomination

@thahdeepseadivuh7501 4 года назад

The movie Waking Life is a great example of this.

@Ajourneyofknowing 4 года назад

ThahDeepSeaDivuh - & A Scanner Darkly

@richardross1754 4 года назад

Great movies

@post-leftluddite 4 года назад

Or how about the entire career of Ralph Bakshi

@Johnlindsey289 2 года назад

Don’t forget heavy metal with the Taarna story, roger rabbit on Jessica rabbit or Undone

@sm00thgames63 Год назад

Amazing that so much animiation is still made guessing what real movement looks like instead of tracing it directly from a real source.

@S4NSE 4 года назад

I loved the moves of that ghost and was wondering why it's so groooovy, that explains alot

@streetsahed 4 года назад

great video but i'm kinda bummed y'all didn't bring up one of the most iconic animators who used this technique; Ralph Bakshi

@Johnlindsey289 2 года назад

Even heavy metal, Jessica rabbit and undone too

@justarandomguy3237 4 года назад

The dancing ghost and the old-man of the mountain was very creepy for me

@RegalCandy 4 года назад

I love the movement. It’s mesmerizing

@ryanfitzgerald9833 7 месяцев назад

that takes me back to the blues brothers where the same song was performed in a fashion every bit as iconic by calloway. the final echo so far of this animation nearly a century ago.

@cathy9423 4 года назад

Okay, for outstanding animation. You HAVE talk about “The Thief and the Cobbler”.

@masterimbecile 4 года назад

When Cab Calloway saw his dance animated, he rofl'ed.

@Fs-zo8ws 4 года назад

Nice reminder that even the ol' good animations started stiff at some point but got better over time =3

@timewarpambience1956 2 года назад

This is so amazing, I never knew this!!!

@distrillbe1928 3 года назад

AoT fans came here to learn what's rotoscoping is🌚

@onepeace9632 3 года назад

Yes! 😂

@noisyguest5249 3 года назад

True

@christopherjaigopaul3896 4 года назад

I found this page today I learned something today

@SWonYT 4 года назад

I love that video! It's actually amazing to learn more about it.

@mikkey246 Год назад

This was so interesting, beautiful editing

@TheRealLumpySpirit 4 года назад

I’m surprised there aren’t as many people talking about Cuphead here.

@altheaequatorin1179 4 года назад

Edgy Nightmeme yeah, right? cab was the muse for king dice. super amazing! also dice is my favorite cuphead character ❤️❤️

@crimeexpocon 4 года назад

Did they have to copy from real people?

@TheRealLumpySpirit 4 года назад

No, but it was partially and artistically inspired by the cartoons mentioned in this video, as well as a lot that weren’t.

@theshyguy1580 4 года назад

It looked like King Dice's head and hands are rotoscoped during the battle.

@antisfoxes 4 года назад

@@altheaequatorin1179 SAME OMG

@MrJamesdryable 4 года назад

GHOSTEMANE - Mercury

@HonARGUru 3 года назад

And honestly, having contributed to the method behind Star Wars' lightsaber effect has been another magnificent addition to pop culture media as a whole

@AnaloguePhoto 4 года назад

Have always been amazed with how naturally the "prince" walked and run in the old DOS version of Prince of Persia. Tried to find a book on physics of human movement or some mathematical explanation. Your video beats any such book. Thanks!

@n1ck2k 4 года назад

You forget what pioneers these guys really were sometimes .

@kev1nruiz 4 года назад

Anyone else think that walrus in the beginning is unsettling?

@skystation7969 4 года назад

I think the guy narrating this video is unsettling. He is clearly acting as an entertainer more than a humble teacher or informant. I'd love to rotoscope his hand-gestures. Furthermore, the piece is peppered with sensational tripe such as: when filming Dave on the rooftop, the sheet with the wind, almost blew him off the rooftop. There is better truth in the most basic books on animation written decades ago by those who were closer to the remnants of those who actually worked with this process. Leave the squeaky clean effects of time alone and stick to the fact. They're more boring.