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The Trinity: Can We Defend it Biblically? 

Mike Winger
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Every cult and false religion challenges the Trinity and a lot of Christians don't have answers. This will be a simple but detailed examination of how we support the Trinity with the Bible AND how to answer 7 of the typical questions that generally stumble Christians on the topic of the Trinity.
Granville Sharp’s rule explained with examples - • Granville Sharp Rule
Great Trinity Debate! I only recommend this debate if you can follow the arguments thoughtfully. Dr. White and Dr. Brown did fantastic and demonstrated the truthfulness of the Trinity thoroughly.
PART 1 - • Trinity DEBATE: Is Jes...
PART 2 - • Trinity DEBATE: Is Jes...
If you prefer a book resource I recommend James White's book The Forgotten Trinity. It is accessible and scholarly at the same time and deals with many of the attacks on the Trinity. This is an affiliate link to the book "The Forgotten Trinity" amzn.to/2CYzx0r

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@greginfla7211
@greginfla7211 3 года назад
52:22 Answers to the first seven question posed beginning of the video. 1:05:08 Q&A
@nathan2friendly887
@nathan2friendly887 3 года назад
Thanx man
@saidinmas
@saidinmas 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 Is Jesus God since God can never die but Jesus can die as any man can die? Did Jesus die on the cross as a man and never died on the cross as God at the same time?
@saidinmas
@saidinmas 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 Did the Jews plot to have Jesus crucified as proof that Jesus is accursed of God as as a false claimant in Deut 21:22-23 as believed by the Jews?
@saidinmas
@saidinmas 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 I have already shown you the reference in Bible that the Jews believe in Deuteronomy 21:22-23 to prove Jesus is accursed of God who is subsequently a false claimant because the Jews believe Jesus was crucified or died on a tree translated as a cross or stake in varied bible translations.
@saidinmas
@saidinmas 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 The evidence that the Jews believe Jesus is accursed of God and is therefore a false claimant is the Jews believe Jesus died on the cross as in Bible Deuteronomy 21:22-23 for you to read it as evidence.
@vincentawbrey8800
@vincentawbrey8800 2 года назад
It is absolutely mind-blowing that God, (in the Person of Christ) would take the punishment for my sins, and pay the price in full! Hallelujah! What a Savior!
@garryellison9438
@garryellison9438 2 года назад
Who did Jesus cry out to when he was dying for your sin ?
@peterquest6406
@peterquest6406 2 года назад
Yep.crazy how God could die but it wasn't God but it wad sort of.naked perfect sense 😆
@peterquest6406
@peterquest6406 2 года назад
He didn't.What does word (Logos) mean?
@nickw3463
@nickw3463 2 года назад
Jesus is God. If you don't like that, your argument is with him. John 8:24 says, for if you believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
@TS-zd2ud
@TS-zd2ud 2 года назад
Hebrews 1:10 Jesus is the Lord whose handwork is HEAVEN and EARTH!! But FACT is the parallel passage Psalm 102:26-28 says that YHWH is the Lord in Hebrews 1:10!! Thus, JESUS is the YHWH of Psalm 102:26-28
@freeman7079
@freeman7079 2 года назад
Not everyone asks these questions in a condescending way, some of us ask these questions because we are desperate to learn and understand our faith and to be able to explain the doctrine to others. But when I try to converse with a fellow Christian by asking these questions, I get a condescending response as if I’m just a skeptical agnostic/atheist or something. I wish we could talk about this without condescension..
@kahron90210
@kahron90210 2 года назад
God is bigger than all of our understanding. Don't try to figure all out for you or others. Some things you just have to believe. Like oxygen, you can't fully understand it but you know you need it to survive.
@all-thingswithbillhirsch2528
@all-thingswithbillhirsch2528 2 года назад
At least there are plenty of youtubers / sound pastors on youtube who can explain this. I’m sorry that people feel the need to get defensive. What happens is God is so dear to us we feel we need to defend His name and ofcourse He can defend Himself.
@TheGuiltsOfUs
@TheGuiltsOfUs 2 года назад
It's neoplatonic paganism, yeshua knew nothing of such things!
@enoch3874
@enoch3874 2 года назад
The messiah's name was always going to be Jesus according to Zechariah Chapter 6... which is the same name as the post exile high priest ,Yeshua! if the concept of Messiah and God are separate then it doesn't automatically follow that sins can be forgiven.. only God can forgive sins. furthermore if the expectation of Messiah is to reverse the events of Genesis 3 Genesis 6 and Genesis 11 then by Definition messiah has to be more than just a man. Jesus being born of Mary but not of Joseph is not a problem according to Jewish history because I believe during the reign of Queen Alexandra Jewish law made Heritage pass on, by matrilineal Bases. A basis for the Trinity can be established in the Old Testament by passages like Amos 4:11Isaiah 48:16.. and Judges chapter 2:1 and Daniel 7:9-14 Support for the idea of God becoming man in Scripture are Deuteronomy 18 verses 15 to 18 Focus of the verse speaks of the coming Messiah coming from lineage of Israel like unto moses. We also have Exodus chapter 23 verse 20 and 21 the context of which is speaking about the future Endeavor of going over Jordan then we come to Joshua chapter 5 verses 13 to 15 and the context of this passage is having just gone over the Jordan into Israel. Another proof of this idea perhaps most glaringly Jeremiah chapter 1 verses 4-10... the first thing you want to pay attention to is titles in verse 4 and verse 9... Hashem and the word of the Lord these titles are used interchangeably there's some definite implication there but the point of emphasis here is verse 9 because it goes a little further than just anthropomorphic language. Now the next concern is did Jesus ever claim to be God? And for this the scriptures I would provide are Matthew 26:64 Jesus directly quotes Daniel 7:13 John 10:34 Jesus claims to be the judge in Psalm 82 referencing verse 6 In John 10 versus Both 11 and 14 Jesus Yeshua says that he is the Good Shepherd and you can cross-reference this with the very first line of Psalm 23. In Mark chapter 6 starting from verse 45 Jesus walks on the water this is something designated in the Old Testament for something only God (job 9:8) can do this separates Jesus from the other people who did miracles. Where another claim would be is in the fact that Jesus forgives sins, off the top of my head is Mark chapter 2 now certainly there have always been Messianic claimants but none of them have ever claimed to forgive sins. Now the question becomes why would Jesus so secretive why didn't he just come out and say that he was the Lord God of Israel?... well one scripture off the top of my head of that I would provide here that might be interesting is this Matthew 16:20 "then he commanded his disciples that they should tell no one that he was Jesus the Christ"... my suggestion to you here, would be that the crucifixion how to take place at a certain place at a certain time and under a specific set of circumstances. Please Look into all the scriptures I made mention here I hope this helps even one person Hashem bless everyone of you... in the name of Jesus both son and God of David king of Israel, amen..!
@michaelzimmerman8959
@michaelzimmerman8959 2 года назад
Well I hope you're not talking about me as being condescending, because I really and sincerely want to help people to understand, there is nobody else in the godhead but the spirit of God. The Bible says, in the last days seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. In the year 325 AD the apostles doctrine was changed to the Catholic Trinity doctrine. Jesus even pointed out in Matthew 7:14, because straight is the gate, and narrow is away, which leads unto life, and few there be that find it. Also in verse 22 of that same chapter, Jesus said many will say unto me in that day, lord, lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils, and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
@heyyo9828
@heyyo9828 6 месяцев назад
You cannot imagine how much this helped me with my faith. I’ve been searching for the deity of Christ for these few months and struggled a lot to see that in the Scripture. I didn’t know about the Sharp rule and I started to get more and more confused. God used this video to show me the deity of Jesus and the Holy Spirit very clearly. Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart. God bless you and all your loved ones!!!
@tomteague4533
@tomteague4533 6 месяцев назад
@mikewinger please do a video on binitarianism
@MrBadway_636
@MrBadway_636 5 месяцев назад
When will you people wake up and realize that Christianity is fake? The Romans hijacked the Bible from the africans, edited it and used it start Christianity. There is no trinity, no Jesus, etc….its all lies.
@TR-qr9hs
@TR-qr9hs 5 месяцев назад
@@tomteague4533 the deity of Christ is Godhead. The Godhead is only God Almighty the Father of Lord Jesus Christ. God is spirit John 4:24kjv. God is not trinity or oneness that of devil Is Babylonian Egyptian mythology.
@debragarell1367
@debragarell1367 5 месяцев назад
So the father is all,but he plays 3 different parts...but ,,,why does Jesus say on the cross..my God my God why has thee forsaken me... or does he??
@TR-qr9hs
@TR-qr9hs 5 месяцев назад
@@debragarell1367 no that stupid the Father doesn't play all son
@GrowingWardFamily
@GrowingWardFamily 5 месяцев назад
I have to keep resubscribing to your channel. I missed so much. Thanks for putting out all the content.
@stephen1503
@stephen1503 3 года назад
These comment sections always remind me to not get my theology from RU-vid comments lol Edit: it was a mostly a joke. Please don’t be upset, thank u
@northoftoofar3772
@northoftoofar3772 3 года назад
Or RU-vid videos, for that matter...
@reginaldking9906
@reginaldking9906 3 года назад
Absolutely
@leapedrosa4475
@leapedrosa4475 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 May I request to you to read and understand my COMMENT here that disproves the trinity and the diety of Christ and likewise answers the questions asked here.
@shawnroberts5146
@shawnroberts5146 3 года назад
God I pray that I’m not just full in my head knowledge, but full in my heart ! God guide me with wisdom and weigh my heart , love and obedience to you lord! In Jesuses name I pray
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 people who don't understand what caps lock is for, are the subject of the second half of proverbs 13:20, not the first half.
@MrDrummer316
@MrDrummer316 3 года назад
ISA 9.6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Jesus is the I Am.
@michaelzimmerman8959
@michaelzimmerman8959 3 года назад
Amen to that.!
@ValerieJean757
@ValerieJean757 3 года назад
Amen John 1 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
@michaelzimmerman8959
@michaelzimmerman8959 3 года назад
@@ValerieJean757 🙂
@jessefontenot9846
@jessefontenot9846 3 года назад
My favorite scripture for this subject.
@AdmoreMethod
@AdmoreMethod 3 года назад
What we fail to notice, though, is that His name will be called Everlasting Father. There is only one Father, and that is God. “For us, there is one God, the Father.” - I Corinthians 8:6. How can Jesus be God the Father if He is God the Son? Is He both? Or, are we misunderstanding the mystery of the incarnation? “Without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh.” - I Timothy 3:16. There is only one God, the Father. Which is why Paul could write: “God was in Christ, reconciling the world to Himself.” - II Corinthians 5:19. God is not reconciling the world to THEMselves (plural), but to HIMself (singular). There is no plurality of Persons (for indeed, God is not a person). There is only God in Christ.
@aejones77
@aejones77 2 месяца назад
Brother, I’m so glad I ran across you on RU-vid. I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and they’ve been SUPER helpful!! Especially the videos on the theological types.
@sweetc1220
@sweetc1220 7 месяцев назад
The level of anger and indignance that I’ve faced when asking questions about Scripture, God, our faith, etc. is disheartening. I gave up asking. I wasn’t ever asking because I didn’t believe it and I wanted to argue against it, I was asking because I was looking for clarity. I believe the Holy Spirit can provide clarity, but I also believe that as beings created by God, He designed us to have relationship with each other and to be iron sharpening iron. But the number one answer I get - even from pastors! - is that there are just some things I have to accept. I just need to accept the fact that I won’t understand everything and I just need to believe it. That’s not me being sharpened. That’s me being dulled. I’ve learned nothing. I didn’t come away from that conversation more confident in my faith. I came away with more question marks than when I came in. Ok - sure. I agree 100% that there are things about God that I can’t apply earthly logic to. But when there is actual doctrine resulting from something we believe in - like the Trinity - there must be things that have been identified in Scripture to support this doctrine. No Biblical doctrine exists without its contents being identified, categorized and defined. So that means there is something to LEARN here. Which means there IS an answer. Why are we not allowed to learn without feeling like we are blaspheming the Holy Spirit just by asking these things? That being said, Mr. Winger, I really appreciate your instruction and willingness to lovingly teach us about our God. Thank you for giving us this gift. I refuse to be mindless about my faith. I want to be mindful and that means understanding Scripture. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
@truechristianity74
@truechristianity74 4 месяца назад
You want to know the truth read 1 Cor 15:24-28
@jakeb3055
@jakeb3055 4 месяца назад
@@truechristianity74I read this passage. It sure sounds like Jesus is not God there. Is that what you mean?
@truechristianity74
@truechristianity74 4 месяца назад
@@jakeb3055 yes
@nobodyspecial1852
@nobodyspecial1852 4 месяца назад
The ones hollering about it usually can't articulate what it means. That's a red flag, if it's not understandable and they can't articulate it, it's not defensible. That doesn't make the belief wrong but the believers are wrong in their application at a minimum. I think the nicene creed went way too far though. Jesus is the mortal shell of the formless infinite God, the "Angel of the Lord" manipulated history to make his own nation and bloodline for his "avatar". Same I AM by a different aesthetic, a new dispensation promised by older ones.
@supershenron4688
@supershenron4688 2 месяца назад
@@truechristianity74 So tell me, whose feet are all things placed under and who places all things under his feet according to those verses?
@chrishaffner6497
@chrishaffner6497 3 года назад
Hear o Israel the Lord your God is ONE!
@rebelmadesaint3118
@rebelmadesaint3118 3 года назад
Fun fact, the same word is used to refer to a multitude of people being one, in genesis 11:6 Two becoming one flesh as in genesis 2:24 And as a people answering with one voice exodus 24:3
@NickHawaii
@NickHawaii 3 года назад
@@rebelmadesaint3118 The whole Echad argument by Trinitarians fail upon closer scrutiny.
@rebelmadesaint3118
@rebelmadesaint3118 3 года назад
@@NickHawaii oh it doesn’t. Read revelation 22. You’ll find the angel attests that the god of the prophets sent him, and then later Jesus testified that it is him that sent the angel. Meaning Christ claimed the title of God. “And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22:6, 16‬ ‭
@NickHawaii
@NickHawaii 3 года назад
@@rebelmadesaint3118 Easy. Context. Rev 1:1. Jesus is not the one who received it. Then the angel is not Jesus when he gave it to John..
@rebelmadesaint3118
@rebelmadesaint3118 3 года назад
@@NickHawaii I never said the angel WAS Jesus, I said Jesus sent his angel, and his angel said that he was sent by God, calling Jesus God.
@bibiandjoshua
@bibiandjoshua 3 года назад
Just found you and as an ex Muslim I cannot thank you enough. I had questions about the Trinity and worshiping Jesus and God answered me personally. Therefore I did not have the theology behind it just that God answered me. This is the single most common attack that Muslims direct at ex Muslims accusing us of Shirk or polytheism. Thank you again.
@bibiandjoshua
@bibiandjoshua 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 " This shows that He had NO GLORY during His time on earth." I think there is plenty of evidence that Jesus had glory on earth. Like I said I asked and HE answered me personally. Does this really matter for your salvation? Jesus is the Savior. Believe in Him, Believe in the Father, Believe in the Holy Spirit. John 3:16 sums it up for me. But thank you for your response.
@bibiandjoshua
@bibiandjoshua 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 Well he certainly performed a lot of miracles, raised the dead and managed to transform himself 🤫
@Mikha335
@Mikha335 3 года назад
bibiandjoshua Just because Yeshua is the Son of God doesn’t mean he is God Almighty. If you look you will find better answers then these. Yeshua was highly exalted after his resurrection to the right hand of YHWH.
@andrewsmall3190
@andrewsmall3190 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 You make some interesting points. Even as a long time Christian I can see how both views can fit the Scriptures, but both cannot be right. Much prayer and revelation is needed here. Peace.
@andrewsmall3190
@andrewsmall3190 3 года назад
@@bibiandjoshua God bless you Brother. You are right, we don't need to fully comprehend the nature of God Almighty (in fact, in our limited human condition, that's likely to be impossible) in order to be saved. We simply need the faith of a child and trust in Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, the Son of God. Blessings.
@LuannKeller
@LuannKeller 7 месяцев назад
Always interesting & helpful.
@bethb6498
@bethb6498 7 месяцев назад
I wish there was a way to like a video this 100 times! This is such an encouraging and God glorifying message! Thank you for your ministry Pastor Mike!
@andrecummings13
@andrecummings13 7 месяцев назад
*** IMPORTANT **** Which is, is not, which is, is not. You talk about confusion . Plain and sample there’s one God and one begotten son of God . That one God ( The Father/Spirit) is inside the son of God ( That man/flesh) reconciling the world into himself . The body of Jesus now takes on the titles of the one God, such as Lord, Christ, God, The Name of The Spirit, which is Jesus and etc. ( Acts 2:36) ( Hebrews 1:4). People watch pastor Gina Jennings, to learn more Truth, we’re leaving in the last days you better make sure. Study the history of where the Trinity came from , it did not come from Bible. The Trinitarian when you tell them to explain the trinity, they just tell you it’s a ministry, and they are right. The Bible speaks about mystery babbling were even the pagan Trinity came from. The Catholic Church with conquering the world spreading Christianity they adopted the holidays and Ash Wednesday lent Friday, the Trinity and etc. from the pagans and all that bundled up trash today is called Christianity which is the children of Catholicism. People quit being lazy and do your research here in the information age we’re not in the Stone Age , ice age we are in the information age you have no excuse. God called us to be Holy not Christianity. If you look at the scriptures were king, Nebuchadnezzar had the dream of the statue. Rome was in power with military, might, at the thighs and legs, which was iron. But at the feet Rome became worldwide dominant not through military, but through religion. if you do studying you’ll find out that’s where Christianity is that’s why there is married Clay and iron mingle together. But if you notice the scripture said that the stone will come from heaven is strike the statue at the legs bringing the statue down that stone is Jesus Christ.. I hope you’re getting this. Christianity is not of the true Jesus Christ of the Bible. Because he’s not going to bring down in destroy his own people. They’re preaching another Jesus that’s what Paul warn the church about that was going to happen. Read ( 2 Corinthians 11:4). Again, please watch Pastor Gino genius to learn more truth.
@winstongrettum3412
@winstongrettum3412 7 месяцев назад
It was based upon lies
@PrenticeBoy1688
@PrenticeBoy1688 3 месяца назад
​@@winstongrettum3412 Name the lies.
@danabird22
@danabird22 3 года назад
I grew up LDS, and I really appreciate your videos, showing me what it says in the Bible (and the Bible alone). It's difficult at times to sort through truth vs falsehoods that I was taught. I feel like I've totally started over as a baby Christian, and it's taken some time, but I'm OK with that.
@danabird22
@danabird22 3 года назад
@ShetheOvercomer there were always things that didn't sit right with me. One of my dearest friends left, but she was afraid of sharing her reasons. I encouraged her to share with me her research. I was afraid to go to non-LDS sources, but I found the LDS apologists (it was called FAIR back then, but it's BYU Studies now), and they acknowledged many of the problems with Joseph Smith. That gave me great relief. It still took me several years to finally let it go, but it got me started. I had another friend that really encouraged me by showing me truly biblical concepts. It takes a village!
@JasmineJeane
@JasmineJeane 3 года назад
You have eternity ahead of you. So happy for you 💗🌸🎉
@christohees9150
@christohees9150 3 года назад
I feel you ive been thru the same process i also grew up lds and had to start over recently actually
@honeyspoonbeewrangler4550
@honeyspoonbeewrangler4550 3 года назад
@@christohees9150 I didnt grow up in LDS but was in it. I am in Utah, any of you?
@christohees9150
@christohees9150 3 года назад
@@honeyspoonbeewrangler4550 i am from south afrika i was born into the vereeniging branch of the lds church
@joshthegoony
@joshthegoony Год назад
I think it's healthy to attack your own doctrine to a certain degree to measure its weight and your ability to defend it. I feel like doing this would help our community discourse as Christians so that we would lean not on our own understanding, but come to an agreement together for accountability.
@1nsanewayn3
@1nsanewayn3 Год назад
RIGHT... TRINITY IS NOT THE TEACHING OF JESUS... IT CAME OUT FROM "AGREEMENT" OF CHURCHES CENTURIES AFTER JESUS TIME.. SO... IF YOU STILL WANT TO BE A CHRISTIAN YOU HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM... BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE THE REAL FOLLOWER OF JESUS.. YOU HAVE TO THROW AWAY THE TRINITY AND START BELIEVE IN ONE GOD.. BECAUSE JESUS DID.
@Kingrich_777
@Kingrich_777 Год назад
Right
@kalegallarde6369
@kalegallarde6369 Год назад
Attack is the wrong word question is the word to use
@stellarjayatkins4749
@stellarjayatkins4749 Год назад
It would be better if he had a non-trinitarian Christian on, instead of straw-manning the non-trinitarian perspective for over an hour.
@Kingrich_777
@Kingrich_777 Год назад
@@stellarjayatkins4749 he represented the Arian cult position perfectly. You just don’t like the way he made them look.
@livingpicture
@livingpicture 6 месяцев назад
I have no idea why YT brought this up in my feed, but I'm glad it did. I am a firm believer in the Trinity, but it helps to have a clear discussion of it when someone challenges me. One of my favorite passages to establish the diety of the Holy Spirit is John 14, because when Jesus talks about the Comforter, He says the Father would send another Comforter. If I understand correctly, this is not just another person, like a prophet, as the Muslims claim, but rather, according to the Greek, another just like Himself. So if Jesus is ruled to be God by the terms laid down in the Bible, you must conclude also the Holy Spirit is God. Btw, a question for you: should we refer to that 3rd person of the Trinity as the Holy Spirit, or as "Holy Spirit," as if this is a proper name? I've always done the former and recently have seen some doing the latter, so I'm curious what you say about this. Scriptures that say the Holy Spirit will not speak of Himself make me think that though He is God, He does not ever identify a name for Himself, and can be called the Holy Spirit. I guess Jesus does call Him the Comforter, and I suppose we could call Him that. What is your opinion on how to address different persons in the Trinity, or should we bother about that, except to pray to the Father in Jesus' name?
@buzzard6410
@buzzard6410 Месяц назад
Jesus said he would send another Comforter. He said "I will not leave you comfortless, I will come unto you." Jesus is clearly stating that HE is the Holy Spirit.
@thomasmanders255
@thomasmanders255 4 месяца назад
I totally understand 😊 the concept 🙌🏽 thankyou..
@newmoon0928
@newmoon0928 Год назад
Ok, just saying...I will refer people to your talk b/c you explain this so thoroughly and succinctly than I could ever even dream to do.
@scepticskeptic1663
@scepticskeptic1663 11 месяцев назад
its far from being airtight though there are tons fo problems with it. if you only watch one side of it how do you know its right
@daytripper8731
@daytripper8731 3 года назад
Ex-JW here. Absolutely LOVE your content. Thank you! God bless you, my brother in Christ 🙏
@carmelovella9728
@carmelovella9728 3 года назад
Wate you learn, at the Organisation of the onotied,, you are a bid lieyer,, you don't want to be disciple,, because you lusy,, don't aver speaks against his organisation,, Jehovah is only true God Almighty,,
@cyberp0et
@cyberp0et 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 Many liars have claimed to nlow the truth. The truth was revealed through tje Apostles and then the Church Fathers. The rest are lies and deceit. This is why tjere were eighr Eccumenical councils to clarify all things and expose the deceivers.
@saenzperspectives
@saenzperspectives 3 года назад
The heresy Alphonse above is reviving is a recycled heresy known as Sabellianism from the third century: “Also known as modalism or monarchianism, this is the teaching that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are merely “modes” of the one God. Sabellius (the founder of the movement) taught that Trinitarianism was wrong in saying there were three Persons who were all God. Rather, he saw them as “masks” worn by one divine Person. Besides Sabellius, another major proponent of modalism was Paul of Samosata. Sabellianism is also called patripassianism (“ Father-suffering”), because it required that the Father suffered on the Cross (since the Father and Son are one Person).”
@saenzperspectives
@saenzperspectives 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 you’re begging the question fallaciously that the Bible says that. The early church did not hold that position. The disciples of the apostles writings also did not hold that position. Historically as I said it is a heresy that arose later on ironically trying to rationalize the mysteries of God.
@saenzperspectives
@saenzperspectives 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 I would strongly recommend reading St Athanasius On the incarnation. Also, looking at the writings dealing with the modalists heretics.
@megan8123
@megan8123 5 месяцев назад
So on Judgement Day, I'm just curious how many do you think will be on the throne?
@iamfunnyipromise9605
@iamfunnyipromise9605 5 месяцев назад
Excellent question. Really want to hear what a triniterian answer to this.
@WhoIsLikeHim
@WhoIsLikeHim 5 месяцев назад
Just one. JESUS Christ. Read carefully Daniel 7. The Ancient of days (Father) gave power to the Son of man (JESUS) so all people from around the world should serve Him (JESUS)
@iamfunnyipromise9605
@iamfunnyipromise9605 5 месяцев назад
@@WhoIsLikeHim Are you a Triniterian, Uniterian or oneness?
@WhoIsLikeHim
@WhoIsLikeHim 5 месяцев назад
@@iamfunnyipromise9605 trinitarian. I believe in one God. But at the same time there are 3 persons in that one God. When God show himself to us, just one God will appear! But when God spoke to us, we know He have three consciousness'. Each of them can be differentiate from one another but cannot be separated from one another. And man are created in that image.We cannot live alone, we are independent but dependent on one another at the same time. But we can be separated but God cannot be separated.
@WhoIsLikeHim
@WhoIsLikeHim 5 месяцев назад
@@iamfunnyipromise9605 I believe in trinitarian cause bible itself tells that. I don't know why we are divided by this. The bible itself is so clear about that. Read carefully Daniel 7. In that chapter 2 persons appeared, who are they?
@AaronHitson
@AaronHitson 7 месяцев назад
Hi Mike, you said “the person is different from the being” to explain why Jesus said the father is greater than I. Can you explain what you mean by that statement?
@moisesbeyond
@moisesbeyond 4 месяца назад
the person is different from the being, How do he proves is true that statement? or people should accept that as a truth just cause he say it?
@irisconcept6639
@irisconcept6639 4 месяца назад
From my understanding is similar to the fact that we exist physically and spiritually . My spirit being is different in that my spirit cannot do what my physical can . It is when we exercise our good spirit or Holy Spirit which can control the physical flesh which is usually not the case if we act in our sin nature . Jesus is God in the flesh who although tempted was able to overcome because of his Holy Spirit being . When we receive the Holy Spirit we are given that power changing our being from the person we may have been . I know that sounds confusing but that is how I am able to make sense of it . For generations our creator has been trying to teach humanity how to sanctify ourselves which didn’t quite work and it took him coming down to show us how it is done in addition to baptize us with the Holy Spirit.
@rickhuntling7338
@rickhuntling7338 3 месяца назад
Philp. 2:6,7 explained it and Mike took note that being in the form of YHWH, equal with YHWH, emptied himself to that of a servant of YHWH, then took the form of a man. Of course, JESUS in the flesh, YHWH was greater but JESUS was still GOD in the flesh; Jn. 1:14, Col. 2:9
@moisesbeyond
@moisesbeyond 3 месяца назад
@@rickhuntling7338 being in the form of YHWH, equal with YHWH....equal in what in power?? so you are saying that exist two beings who are almighties and JESUS was still GOD in the flesh So Romans weapons could kill an almighty being
@rickhuntling7338
@rickhuntling7338 3 месяца назад
@@moisesbeyond I don't say it, scripture does. JESUS said to who, HE could call a multitude of angles to stop HIS death on the cross, instead HE gave HIS life freely, Jn. 10:18, Mat. 26:53. Scripture says three individuals one GOD in a unified oneness. The word is "echad" used also in a man and wife become one flesh in unity. HE made us this way for a reason. Gen.2:24
@vaughnlonganecker986
@vaughnlonganecker986 3 года назад
The living God, what a joy, what peace, what reality that comes by His call to us, thank you Lord!
@isleohagger5455
@isleohagger5455 2 года назад
I just read the verse "He is the one true God, and I am Jesus Christ whom He has sent." If Jesus isn't the true God and never called himself that, but we call him God, that means we have two Gods? Maybe we shouldn't follow this? Does it go against the #1 commandment?? Edit: Found some info. Jesus said "Why call me good? Only God is good." So, are some of the gospels just contradicting a lot or are they still true? I read Jewish Christians during the century 1 didn't believe them and they were made from rumours people had a hope Jesus didn't die so the Greeks designed these books. But, I mean... I'm reading this site, the Old Testament says God is our only savior and "No father or son can atone for the sins of another. Each sin is upon each person." That means, Adam didn't give us sin and Jesus couldn't?... "Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no salvation."? -Psalm 146:3 Jesus also says "I pray to your God and my God" and "Make my followers one with me just like You and I are one," so it means. . . make us follow You and not abandon Your way. Okay, Jesus already said he's not God and calls us and the prophets before also sons of God. Edit: Okay, I just read the verse Jesus tells us "Follow the commandments to enter heaven" and the sermon on the mount, the good seed, he gives us instructions in religion. I definitely think we Christians need to follow Jesus more, he says he can do nothing of his own, we should pray to the father. "The father is the only true God." Jesus never calls himself God or a true God and the NT calls him a creation... Hmm, some of these gospels are fishy, this is becoming obvious now they're copying everything word for word from the OT and it comes across incredibly forced, like, they're written so later after Jesus that they're devising a story just to appease fanatics back then. I do think they're the best we have, but I have doubts they're 'inspired' text. It's neat that the Greeks found all these clever prophecy ideas like atonement in a random verse but it doesn't appear accurate to the real old testament law. I'm checking out sects of Islam too, maybe there really are better religious perspectives out there.
@lighthousenetwork.tv-media
@lighthousenetwork.tv-media Месяц назад
​​@@isleohagger5455i honestly think that a plain reading of (the hundreds of) propheies are easily fulfilled in Jesus. maybe if it was one or two you could say its chance or contrivance, but eventually it becomes unreasonable to believe someone would have orchestrated all the events (except God himself.)
@brianeckes7minutesermonser840
@brianeckes7minutesermonser840 3 года назад
I am glad you have the Bible verses on the screen, this helps so much! Thank you.
@NickHawaii
@NickHawaii 3 года назад
Jesus wasn’t Trinitarian.
@leapedrosa4475
@leapedrosa4475 3 года назад
If you believe in the trinity and the diety of Christ, may I request to you to read my COMMENT here that disproves the trinity and the diety of Christ.
@NickHawaii
@NickHawaii 3 года назад
@@leapedrosa4475 I don’t believe in the trinity doctrine. No such description or definition of God as being three persons in one God exists in scripture. Only in post biblical creeds.
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 3 года назад
@@NickHawaii okay, justify this. Why would God, after hearing everyone at the counsel beg for his guidance and understanding, not give it, but instead knowingly allow satan to lead astray the entire church? As a nurse, I would be held as negligent if I ignored major requests for help from my charges. Are you holding God to a lesser standard? Or are you asserting that God was somehow overpowered by satan at these counsels? Either way, to say that God didn't guide these counsels is extremely unflattering.
@NickHawaii
@NickHawaii 3 года назад
@@marvalice3455 Thanks for your expressions and question. That first-century meeting of the apostles and elders at Jerusalem had Jehovah God’s approval, for its decisions had his blessing, and it furthered the Kingdom-preaching work that brought many Gentiles into the Christian congregation. However, the facts of history give clear evidence that the church councils of Christendom have never been approved by God. Later general councils were frequently overshadowed by imperial church politics. Charges of heresy proved to be a ruthless scheme to eliminate opponents who dared to defy Christendom’s church councils. Any who expressed differing opinions or even attempted to present Scriptural proof refuting the dogmas and canons, church laws, of the councils were branded as heretics. The determination to stamp out opposition led to dreadful atrocities. Most of those pronounced guilty of heresy against the popular dogma of the council were burned at the stake, suffering the agony of a slow death as a public spectacle, supposedly in the name of Christ! So it isn't unflattering it us true. Their appeal to Jehovah was just as false as The pharisees in Jesus day. Two easy levels of proof. 1. The prophecy of the wheat and weeds. The weeds take over and the wheat is mixed in but hidden to a degree by weeds or Jesus would not have said don’t pull the weeds as you will pull wheat. The believers have always existed but mixed with weeds. 2. The councils followed men. The easiest example is the 381AD council that Theodosius called. He removed bishops, appointed bishops, which he had no authority to do, and TOLD the council what to teach. The trinity, and to destroy all writings against it and persecute anyone who claims it is false. History totally supports this. Fulfills Jesus words.
@albertrenshaw4252
@albertrenshaw4252 3 месяца назад
One of the neat things about God being a higher dimensional being is you’d expect something like a “Trinity” to happen. I imagine some cube telling a some lower dimensional (flatland) square that he is 6 squares but all one Would be an odd concept for them to grasp but in reality it’s just what a cube is in a higher dimension
@darkeen42
@darkeen42 3 месяца назад
Yeah that's one of the great things about believing obviously false b******* it doesn't matter how self-defeating and contradictory and immoral it is you admitted clearly impossible from the beginning. You can have faith or you can have integrity I don't see how you can have both
@jayden8636
@jayden8636 3 месяца назад
@@darkeen42 faith is just confidence. if i say “i don’t know how you can’t have faith and also have integrity” i would be right in my world too, but i understand that not everyone sees the world the way I do. So maybe instead of talking so harshly, talk through it in a civilized way.
@darkeen42
@darkeen42 3 месяца назад
@@jayden8636 Faith is confidence in something you have no justification for being confident in.
@dreameruy9510
@dreameruy9510 2 месяца назад
Jesus and All Apostoles never taught Trinity, Triune God, 3 person Paul said For there is One God and one mediator between god and men THE MAN CHRIST JESUS (1tim2:5) VERY VERY CLEAR VERSE THE MAN CHRIST JESUS The Man Christ Jesus said I am a Man The scripture says God is not a Man The Man Christ Jesus said the Father is greater than I ( Not Co- Equal) The Man Christ Jesus praying to God The Man Christ Jesus prove that the Father is the only TRUE GOD The Man Christ Jesus said the Father is the only TRUE GOD Jn17 God is One and ALONE Before me there was NO GOD formed, neither shall there be AFTER ME God said to Moses I AM Who I AM (Exo 3:14) Paul said great is the mystery of Godliness, GOD was manifest in the flesh (1tim3 :16) His name is== JESUS Jesus said I am Come in my Father's Name Jesus said before Abraham was I AM GOD IS I AM JESUS IS I AM Jesus said if you do not believe that I Am He you shall die in your sin (Jn 8 :24) He was in the World and the World was made by him and the World knew him not Jn1:10 JESUS MADE THE WORLD ALONE He came to his own but his own receive him not (Jn1: 11)
@dreameruy9510
@dreameruy9510 2 месяца назад
"US" = Angeles are possibility God is One and ALONE Before me there was NO GOD formed neither shall there be AFTER The Scripture is Very Very Clear Whosoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God (2jn1:9) Jesus said when the dead rise they are like Angeles in heaven ( Mark 12: 25 Kjv) When Jesus Appear we shall be like him for we shall see him as he is ( 1jn3:2) "US" =OUR image is like Jesus and the Angels of heaven Jesus said the Father is the only TRUE GOD Jn17 God said to Moses I AM Who I AM exo 3 14 Paul said great is the mystery of Godliness GOD was manifest in the flesh (1tim3:16) His name is==JESUS ( Not Jehovah, Yahweh, Adonai, Elohim, Yhwh, ect.) John said for many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ come in the flesh, this is Deceiver An Antichrist (2jn1: 7) John said Only ONE SAT on the throne Rev 4: 2 Paul said Jesus throne is forever and ever (heb1: 8) Where is the Throne of Others..? If God is 3 person..? Where is the Throne of Jehovah, Yahweh, Adonai, Elohim, Yhwh, ect..? Paul said but even if we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you let him be Accursed ( Gal 1: 8)
@GoodGriefCB
@GoodGriefCB Месяц назад
Just wanted to say thank you SO much. I’ve been talking to a JW and I would just get lost. I have been studying and trying to learn but other people just go so fast! Your format was really helpful also! I feel better about it and more confident now. Thank you so much
@777Tralfaz777
@777Tralfaz777 Месяц назад
(1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
@Draganism
@Draganism Год назад
"I would give my life before I compromise on the identity of Christ. It is that big a deal." What a beautiful sentiment and heartfelt commitment. I certainly feel the same way.
@StretchMn
@StretchMn Год назад
And that's exactly what will happen if you belief wrong. Jo. 17:3 - And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. That verse explains volumes. It is a prayer from Jesus to his Father calling his Father the only true God. That means God and Jesus are two separate and distinct individuals, thus no trinity.
@John-st7bf
@John-st7bf Год назад
@@StretchMn what does this verse mean to you. Colossians 2:9 For *the entire fullness of God's nature* dwells bodily in Christ,
@StretchMn
@StretchMn Год назад
@@John-st7bf So Jesus prayed to his insides? 🤣
@John-st7bf
@John-st7bf Год назад
@@StretchMn dude His Father is omnipresent.
@StretchMn
@StretchMn Год назад
@@John-st7bf So God isn't inside Jesus?
@user-hl9rs3jh1q
@user-hl9rs3jh1q Год назад
I am an orthodox Christian from Ethiopia and we have well elaborated outlook on the Trinity. I apriciate what you are trying to do.
@andreichira7518
@andreichira7518 Год назад
​@@Explanation.513 What on Earth are you talking about?
@obiyanko2019
@obiyanko2019 7 месяцев назад
I have 1 question for you. What will you do with the verses spoken by The Lord Jesus Himself calling His Father His God, and saying The Father gave Him to have life in Himself (self-existent, Amplified Bible), and Apostle Paul's statement clarifying Deuteronomy 6:1 (Shema)? John 5:26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so also He has granted the Son to have life in Himself. 4 x here: Revelations 3:12 The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. Once here: Revelations 1:5-6 - and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father-to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
@_clownworld
@_clownworld 4 месяца назад
You lost me at “amplified bible”. Good day sir.
@TR-qr9hs
@TR-qr9hs 3 месяца назад
@@_clownworld get king James Version bible God word in English.
@anonymousanon8412
@anonymousanon8412 2 месяца назад
The problem is you're reading one of the worst translations next to the NIV. Get a KJV Bible.
@julioswat79
@julioswat79 6 месяцев назад
I have a number of questions regarding some of the information present in the video, here are just some of them split by subject. SUBJECT 1 Regarding the word Trinity is not found in the Bible question, 2 follow up questions: The concept of personhood as defined in the trinity is found where in the Bible? The concept of God's essence as defined in the trinity is found where in the Bible? SUBJECT 2 Not sure I understand the explanation on John 1:1 What does the word "God" mean? Does it mean the essence of God, the trinity, or God the Father? For example: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with [the essence of God],and the Word was [the essence of God] (This would make the Word the essence of God and separate from the essence of God) or In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with [the trinity],and the Word was [the trinity] (This would make the Word sperate from and at the same time the entire trinity ) or In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with [God the Father],and the Word was [God the Father] (This would make the Word God the Father ) SUBJECT 3 Mike used John 17:5 to support the preexistence of God the Son: John 17:5 says "And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began." However, John 17:1 reads "After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:", at around 58 minute mark Mike says that it is not God praying to another God whenever Jesus is praying but one person praying to another person in the trinity. Is this Jesus as human praying since Jesus is fully human and full divine? If so how could Jesus as a man have glory with God the Father since the world began? If this is divine aspect of Jesus praying, or God the Son then why does God the Son need to pray to God the Father if they are co-equal and co-eternal? Would this not lead to subordinationism?
@cardinal57
@cardinal57 5 лет назад
Bro this is awesome, thank you for helping me, I’m about to enter college and I want to prepare myself, your channel and understanding of the Word has been a like rock sharpening my sword.
@imagomonkei
@imagomonkei 5 лет назад
Filly Fill the best way to handle the Trinity is to never, ever try to understand it. As soon as you apply basic logic (which we assume we derive from God), it all falls to pieces. If you don't want your faith shattered, you'd best abandon it on your own terms first.
@ronniemann9014
@ronniemann9014 4 года назад
If your sword needs sharpening by a rock, youre wielding the wrong weapon. Smh.
@leonidasmartinelli4227
@leonidasmartinelli4227 4 года назад
Ronnie Mann haven’t you ever heard of a whetstone?
@junelledembroski9183
@junelledembroski9183 4 года назад
Filly Fill Don’t ever listen to the haters. I hope college is treating you well , but I’ve gone to college and I’m sure 90% of people are like the ones in your comment section. You know, ignorant and don’t like trying to think for themselves. ;)) Never let go of God, no matter what hurtful things people say. Cut off the members. It’s better to cut them off then go to hell with them.
@bignatemcbc
@bignatemcbc 4 года назад
You are certainly in my prayers! I pray your faith is only strengthened as it is challenged in your various classes!
@shamarjames5684
@shamarjames5684 3 года назад
We see God through Jesus through characteristics
@777logos2
@777logos2 3 года назад
You are not wrong as all characteristics testify of the truth that is the word born of truth, God our Father. Amen brother. Only the truth can reveal such things to men. Peace and blessings be upon you.
@shamarjames5684
@shamarjames5684 3 года назад
@@777logos2 burn truth of prophecy
@777logos2
@777logos2 3 года назад
@@shamarjames5684 yes, and so much more. The revelation of the living truth that reveals all things. Amen
@maclinkastex3059
@maclinkastex3059 2 года назад
Al Pacino, De Niro & Orlando Bloom. What is each one of them? An actor. Who is each one of them? A person. Result: three persons = three actors. It is stupid to say they are one actor. Three godly persons are three gods.
@migosi11
@migosi11 2 года назад
@@maclinkastex3059 the entire Bible talks of ONE God, seminary school and catholic church come up with 3 gods. Anybody can prove it's one God using the Bible verses esp The Gospel of John.
@uponthisrockbyjoelorr3568
@uponthisrockbyjoelorr3568 7 месяцев назад
Would you be willing to have a conversational study on the oneness vs Trinidadian doctrines?
@Upperroom254
@Upperroom254 6 месяцев назад
I am a trinitarian however I need help with a question. How would you the trinity be differentiated from what we understand as multiple personality disorder?
@smalltimer4370
@smalltimer4370 6 месяцев назад
We can take comfort in knowing Jesus would not take-part in such things. As Jesus went-on to identify His GOD and our GOD, who is His Father and our Father, as the only true GOD of whom are all things.
@coletheking
@coletheking 6 месяцев назад
No. Because Jesus never proclaimed to be the Father
@jesusstopsbullets5111
@jesusstopsbullets5111 6 месяцев назад
Multiple personality disorder is when 1 person thinks he is Multiple personalities. God is not 1 person.
@jesusstopsbullets5111
@jesusstopsbullets5111 6 месяцев назад
​@@smalltimer4370 but no one teaches that Jesus is "another God" nor do we teach that Jesus is the Father. So not sure why you quoted John 17:3.
@Upperroom254
@Upperroom254 6 месяцев назад
@@jesusstopsbullets5111 Dissociative identity disorder is characterised by the presence of two or more distinct personality identities. Each may have a unique name, personal history and characteristics.
@pazyamor1313
@pazyamor1313 Год назад
Thank you, thank you!! 😊 Yes someone was hitting me with all of these questions, and I was trying to stand my ground but wasn't truly prepared! This video is so awesome and I even sent it to that person. He is a Muslim and was really trying to make his point! I appreciate you for sharing! 🙏🏽🤗🌅
@winstongrettum3412
@winstongrettum3412 Год назад
The video was a twisting of the scriptures and very dishonest.
@2fast2block
@2fast2block Год назад
Get real, but you won't. Not much you can do when you have three 100% gods and call them one god. No reason to go to scripture when you already showed you are not honest with your reasoning. Just admit you like believing things that make no sense and that you DO have three gods but you are NOT honest and won't admit that.
@pazyamor1313
@pazyamor1313 Год назад
@@2fast2block Loud and wrong!!
@2fast2block
@2fast2block Год назад
@@pazyamor1313 "Loud and wrong!!" Followed by your evidence of.....(blank). You make a good trinitarian, dishonest and illogical.
@eduardolibrando1653
@eduardolibrando1653 Год назад
33.AD.UP.2.NOW.d.HOLY.SPIRIT.Governing.the.KINGDOM.of.God.on.Earth.where.the.1st.Firmament.Heaven.is.with.in.5.Department.for.resting.of.Souls.at.the.center.of.it.is.Hell.of.Fire.at.d.Mantel.part.nearest.to.d.CORE.wd.so.many.Dark.Chamber.of.hothottest.wd.fumes.of.Sulfuric.and.Dark.Chamber.of.Coldcoldest.wd.Fumes.of.Sulfuric.too
@tiffinydill359
@tiffinydill359 4 года назад
Man I needed this. I believe in the Trinity but I find it hard to defend and explain. I haven’t worried about trying to defend I just believe, which is not a good foundations. When I try to think about it, my mind completely goes berserk
@pauls7286
@pauls7286 4 года назад
God is not a trinity Watch the God series on the God culture on RU-vid videos The videos will explain to you about God's name and his sons name God's true name is YAHUAH His sons name is Yahushua May Yahuah bless you
@claritabaldonaza9160
@claritabaldonaza9160 3 года назад
One God but 3 divine person or trinity...in a simple short explanation...if you look at the fire it is only one but in different volume
@harreypotter5941
@harreypotter5941 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@abcd_EFGHIJKLM
@abcd_EFGHIJKLM 3 года назад
@@pauls7286 John 10:30 I and my father are one. What you are not understanding is that it’s 3 in 1 the father the son and the Holy Spirit
@selalmng
@selalmng 3 года назад
@@abcd_EFGHIJKLM I and the Father. No mention of Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the presence of both Father and Son. It's how we are reconciled to the Father. The Father is in the Son, the Son is in the Believer and the Believer in the Son.
@beckybates543
@beckybates543 5 месяцев назад
I’m watching this 5 years later, my husband and I was at lunch today, and we were discussing the Trinity. He didn’t fully understand it and I felt so bad that I couldn’t clearly explain it. So I am glad I found this video!! Thank you for all the work you do!!
@lbracknell24
@lbracknell24 4 месяца назад
Why would God give us something so confusing and not be explain in scripture?
@HowWillYouAnswer
@HowWillYouAnswer 4 месяца назад
@@lbracknell24 dont expect it to be super ez to get, it can be simplified just like anything else but its a bad thing to say "to confusing" when talking about THE ALMIGHTY GOD not everything is easy (Be WISE AS SERPENTS) not (Stupid as doves) if you catch my drift
@lbracknell24
@lbracknell24 4 месяца назад
@Babybluemarine29 it is too confusing. 3 never equals 1. There is zero rational given for it. No parables. No proverbs. No law. Nothing. The Jews see it. The Muslims see it. But Christians cant figure out the devils best heresy. Even when the other two attempt to teach the grafted in gentiles, we reject and hold fast to old pagan ways. Trinity, sabbath, holidays....all Christian made in defiance of God. And yes, I'm the biggest offender knowing it's offensive and still keep with the traditions of man
@alvinford6522
@alvinford6522 3 месяца назад
Did the apostles teach trinity?then how come they fail to mention God the Holy spirit in the beginning of all their epistles?.if the trinity was true the apostles would gave glory to God the father son holy spirit
@Dodderyfeline31
@Dodderyfeline31 3 месяца назад
@alvinford6522 Matthew 28:19
@glorialedesma6534
@glorialedesma6534 3 месяца назад
Hi Mike ,I just found your RU-vid channel ,I watch it ,so interesting to know and learn .my question is ,Are the bible all the same ?And what religion or beliefs you are following? Am very interested to know .i believe in God,thank you.
@sarahfaith316
@sarahfaith316 5 лет назад
Yay you remembered my married name!! :D Lol this stream was so helpful. My husband and I witness to JWs and Mormons in our home and those "7 questions" come up A LOT. I pray for your family and your ministry often and will continue to. Can't say 'thank you' enough!
@anthonyfrank7909
@anthonyfrank7909 5 лет назад
All Men Must Repent and Believe in Jesus Christ: “I say unto you that ye must repent and be born again; for the Spirit saith if ye are not born again ye cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore come and be baptized unto repentance that ye may be washed from your sins, that ye may have faith on the Lamb of God, who taketh away the sins of the world, who is mighty to save and to cleanse from all unrighteousness.” “Come unto Christ and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ; and if by the grace of God ye are perfect in Christ, ye can in nowise deny the power of God.” “He denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile.” “He is the same yesterday, today, and forever; and the way is prepared for all men from the foundation of the world, if it so be that they repent and come unto him.” “Whoso repenteth not must perish.” “He commandeth all men that they must repent and be baptized in his name, having perfect faith in the Holy One of Israel, or they cannot be saved in the kingdom of God. “And if they will not repent and believe in his name, and be baptized in his name, and endure to the end, they must be damned; for the Lord God, the Holy One of Israel, has spoken it.” “The Lord covenanteth with none save it be with them that repent and believe in his Son, who is the Holy One of Israel.” “I beseech of you in words of soberness that ye would repent and come with full purpose of heart, and cleave unto God as he cleaveth unto you. And while his arm of mercy is extended towards you in the light of the day, harden not your hearts.” “O then, my beloved brethren, repent ye, and enter in at the strait gate and continue in the way which is narrow until ye shall obtain eternal life.” “And again, believe that ye must repent of your sins and forsake them, and humble yourselves before God; and ask in sincerity of heart that he would forgive you; and now, if you believe all these things see that ye do them.” Those who love these words may be surprised to learn the name of the book in which they are written.
@pastorrodriguez230
@pastorrodriguez230 5 лет назад
THE FACT THAT THE EXALTED CHRIST HAS A GOD IN HEAVEN INDICATES THAT HE IS NOT IQUAL TO THE FATHER AS THE ALMIGHTY. APOCALYPSE 3: 12 1) Everyone who has a God is because that God is more powerful than themselves. 2) Everyone who has a God is because is worshiping that God. How is Christ going to be the only God and will have a God to worship? John 20:17 (note that here he is in the flesh as a limited human but in the following text he is already in heavenly glory ) In Revelation 3: 12, Christ says the name God four times, there is no text in the Bible to remember the word God appears 4 times in the same verse. Notice also that Revelation 3: 12 tells us that he receives a new name. What new name can Almighty God receive? What can be new for God ? We are going to receive a new name as Christ also Revelation 2: 17. The Father is the God of Christ, but the Father has no God, so He has no superior, the Father is the only Highest God. The only way the Father is the God of Christ in heaven is if Christ is inferior to the Father and is different from the Father. The doctrine of oneness is as complicated as the doctrine of Trinity.
@mikestranack3181
@mikestranack3181 4 года назад
Jesus the man was praying to the father that was in him as we pray to the Father which is in US. the fullness of the godhead was in him bodily. Jesus was asked show us the father Jesus said I have been with you so long and you don't know me. the holy spirit is the spirit of God just different names for the same being. in the Bible there is Spirit and there is flesh two different entities. when we pray to Jesus we are praying to God because there is a scripture that said he is the image of the invisible God. when you get to heaven you will only see Jesus the image of the invisible God because God is a spirit that is everywhere at the same time. think about it if a spirit that is everywhere in the universe at the same time were to make himself visible like a solid cloud we would not be able to see anything.
@matthewterry9413
@matthewterry9413 4 года назад
Pastor Rodriguez this video was for you
@Ranger1985.
@Ranger1985. 4 года назад
God isn't a trinity, he's 1 being called Yehovah, like the entire Tanakh says. Yehoshua ("Jesus") is his son. The holy spirit is Yehovah's spirit (life, mind, will, power). Yehoshua isn't role-playing. He was truly begotten into Mary's womb by the spirit of Yehovah. This is why is the son of God. Yehovah = God Yehoshua = Son of God Holy Spirit = Spirit of Yehovah
@arclemons1967
@arclemons1967 2 года назад
This providentially popped up in my RU-vid feed, and it's so awesome to be reminded that God has my life covered so completely! I did a horribly miserable job attempting to share the triune nature of God with one of my sons four days ago - and, of course, I'm mom...irritating white noise. So I've shared it with him. ❤️ Thank you so much for such a thorough covering of the Trinity. God certainly is using you mightily, and I'm incredibly grateful to have you as a resource, a gracious and adorably funny resource too. I love your cheesy sense of humor! 😁 💜✝️💜
@jb_1971
@jb_1971 2 года назад
@@findtruth5329 Amen. People are lead astray by vain philosophy when they're warned over and over again that there will be deception. To the lady who posted the original comment: Please, read how Jesus defined eternal life in John 17:3. Do you believe what He said there? Is your God Jesus Christ's God?
@Tony07UK
@Tony07UK Год назад
The Bible exposes false teaching - do not be deceived by those that contradict what the scriptures clearly say. Note what Jesus said to Mary Magdalene when he revealed who he was as she didn't immediately recognise him: 'Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” - John 20:17 How can Jesus be God as he directly and truthfully states that he was yet to ascend to his God and Father? (remember, that at this stage Jesus was no longer in his original human form - he had been resurrected as a spirit being and was able to materialize human form, which angels have done on occasion eg. to help Lot escape cities before their destruction) Note how John concludes chapter 20 in verse 31 > 'But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and because of believing, you may have life by means of his name.' Also, even in heaven, Jesus sits at God's right hand - the apostle Stephen was the first to bear witness that he had seen Jesus in heaven and standing at the right hand of God, as prophesied at Ps 110:1. The right hand was considered to be of great importance symbolically. To be on the right hand of a ruler was to have the second most important position, next to the ruler himself. - Acts 7:55, 56 'Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, more than that, the one who was raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also pleads for us' - Romans 8:34 'He is at God’s right hand, for he went to heaven, and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him.' - 1 Peter 3:22 The apostle Paul wrote at 1 Corinthians 11:3 > 'But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God.' (written some 20 years after Jesus ascended into heaven) Jesus' disciples were clear as to the identity of Jesus - when questioned, Simon Peter answered: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Joʹnah, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father in the heavens did." - Matthew 16:16, 17 The scriptures are clear - Jesus knew who he was; Jesus' disciples knew who he was .. the Son of God and Jesus' Father is the Almighty God to whom Jesus prayed and directed his worship. 'Jesus spoke these things, and raising his eyes to heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your son so that your son may glorify you, .." - John 17:1 "This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. 4 I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do. 5 So now, Father, glorify me at your side with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was." - John 17:3-5 Nowhere does the bible say that Jesus is God or equal to God. 'He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;' - Colossians 1:15 '[Jesus] who, although he was existing in God’s form, did not even consider the idea of trying to be equal to God.' - Philippians 2:6 "I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am." - John 14:28 At Jesus' baptism, Jehovah approves his Son .. 'After being baptized, Jesus immediately came up from the water; and look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw God’s spirit descending like a dove and coming upon him. 17 Look! Also, a voice from the heavens said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.” - Matthew 3:16, 17 Believe what the Bible says .. not false teachers who deceive such as Mike Winger.
@unacubanaenlayuma
@unacubanaenlayuma Год назад
@@Tony07UK What an extraordinary and well put together answer. I agree 100%. Jesus is the Son of God, not a part of an unbliblical trinitarian god.
@arclemons1967
@arclemons1967 Год назад
@@Tony07UK You're either a Mormon or a JV - both heretical cults. Hopefully your spirit opens to the Holy Spirit's leading and the truth about Christ before you face eternity.
@arclemons1967
@arclemons1967 Год назад
@@jb_1971 You must also either a Mormon or a JV.. Yahweh is my God - not your false one, and He is triune in nature - per scripture. If you don't believe that, it's because you're cherry-picking scriptures to support your wrong belief. True believing Christians accept God's word in its entirety.
@99flavours
@99flavours 2 месяца назад
Thank you brother. If anything this is what Christians need to understand with urgency. God bless you for this!
@raiden6852
@raiden6852 13 дней назад
Short answer: No
@gfritz88
@gfritz88 10 месяцев назад
“But for us there is but one God, the Father” 1 Corinthians 8:6
@gr4hamm
@gr4hamm 3 месяца назад
This is the first point that Mike made. There is one God. And the Father is God. There is one God, 3 persons. The entire doctrine of the trinity is built on the fact that there is one God. An hour of scriptural back-up for the doctrine of the trinity, this one verse doesn’t disprove everything the Bible teaches us. If anything it bolsters the argument for the trinity. He also directly addresses your argument at 53:54
@gfritz88
@gfritz88 3 месяца назад
@@gr4hamm this verse clearly tells us that the Father is God. That is one person, and Jesus is the Son of that One God. 2 divine beings the Father and the Son, the Holy Spirit is their spirit and not a person. This is what the scriptures teach.
@catcerson
@catcerson 3 месяца назад
imagine not even watching even the first part of the video before commenting (do not reply i'm not going to read it or answer lol, just try to be open minded about other peoples points, and take all things into factor to form a complete thought.)
@KristiMusicVideos
@KristiMusicVideos 3 месяца назад
Well, it's just like our own union with God. Yeshua is our brother. We are both in union with God and, therefore, with each other.
@vokrats9597
@vokrats9597 2 года назад
Thank you so much for this, sir! All Christians should take note of your arguments. :)
@Tessinentdecken
@Tessinentdecken 2 года назад
How do we know if a prayer is answered by God or if what we prayed for happened naturally?
@brianhanrahan7561
@brianhanrahan7561 2 года назад
@@Tessinentdecken Some guy on you tube will give the answer you choose . Then hopefully Mike winger will make a video about how anyone with an answer you didn't want is a heretic
@Tessinentdecken
@Tessinentdecken 2 года назад
@@brianhanrahan7561 so you don’t know the answer to my question.
@brianhanrahan7561
@brianhanrahan7561 2 года назад
@@Tessinentdecken I am.sure that if you prayed for something un-natural your answer would be disappointing.
@Tessinentdecken
@Tessinentdecken 2 года назад
@@brianhanrahan7561 what sort of things do you pray for?
@mermythirteen
@mermythirteen 6 месяцев назад
Bummed that I found your channel late, but glad cause I have tons of content to catch up on, thanks ❤
@SomeYouTubeTraveler
@SomeYouTubeTraveler 2 месяца назад
1:14:16 "23-19! WE GOT A 23-19 ON THE SCARE FLOOR!!!" _[hits alarm buzzer]_ Sorry, I couldn't resist the Monsters Inc. reference
@katierucker2870
@katierucker2870 4 года назад
Thank God! This is so refreshing by the way! God bless
@axript
@axript 3 года назад
Thats not all... Why does Jesus not know about the hour of Judgment? But The Father in heaven only knows... That doesnt sound as coequal to me. Why did Jesus declined to be called Good and attributed Good to The Father in heaven only? Why did Jesus say My God My God why have you forsaken me?
@ex-trinitarian5196
@ex-trinitarian5196 3 года назад
@@axript You always come up with the same verse so it becomes almost boring to talk to you Unitarians (Muslims). Matthew 24:36 (Mark 13:32) is a good example that God is a triune God (three persons and yet one: God as Father, Son and Holy Spirit). When Jesus spoke these words (from Mt 24:36 and Mk 13:32) to the disciples, even he did not know the date and time of his coming. Although Jesus was perfectly God at his incarnation (John 1:1, 14), he voluntarily renounced the exercise of certain divine attributes (Philippians 2: 6-8). He did not show them unless they were in accordance with the will of the Father (Jn 4:34; 5:30; 6:38). He demonstrated his omniscience on several occasions (cf. Jn 2:25; 3:13), but he voluntarily limited it to the things that God let him know during his human existence (Jn 15:15). So it was with regard to the date and time of his return. After his resurrection, Jesus again accepted his complete divine knowledge (cf. Mt 28:18; Acts 1,7) Check these passages and you will understand. God bless you!
@ex-trinitarian5196
@ex-trinitarian5196 3 года назад
@@axript And Jesus did not say that he himself is not GOOD but he confirms that only GOD is good. Among other things, Jesus said: I am the GOOD Shepherd. A good shepherd gives his life for the sheep.(John 10:11) Who is GOOD besides GOD? Nobody. Who is the GOOD Shepherd? Jesus Christ. Who is the only one who is GOOD? God. Who is GOOD? Jesus Christ = GOD in FLESH.
@noweternity3101
@noweternity3101 5 лет назад
Mark 14 : 60 - 63 Then the high priest stood up before them and asked Jesus, "Are you not going to answer? What is this testimony that these men are bringing against you?" But Jesus remained silent and gave no answer. Again the high priest asked Him, "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?" "I AM," said Jesus. "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven." The high priest tore his clothes. "Why do we need any more witnesses?" he asked.
@ctglenn1
@ctglenn1 4 года назад
In that text he was claiming to be the Son of God, not God, Son of the Blessed One.
@warrenjoseph76
@warrenjoseph76 4 года назад
ctglenn1 no he was claiming to be the Messiah the “Son of Man”. This phrase has specific meaning and relevance to the priests he was addressing
@PrintOfLife
@PrintOfLife 3 года назад
@@ctglenn1 Nope! CHRIST JESUS clearly declared to The ALMIGHTY GOD of Israel in Mark 14:62. Saying "Sitting at the right hand of Mighty One" is a metaphor for omnipotence or all powerful and every Jew knows The LIVING GOD of Israel come and go in the clouds of Heaven as HE appeared in the past.
@ctglenn1
@ctglenn1 3 года назад
PrintOfLife I’m not sure why you’re saying “nope”, because whether you believe that Jesus is God or not the contexts of this particular verse is referencing to him being Christ and the Son of God. Just look at the question number 61 and then Jesus’ answer in 62. “Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 62And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power...” He’s answering, “yes” to being the Son of God and Christ, this is why he’s referred to himself as the son of man. Also this position is given it to Jesus by God Almighty who has exalted his son to sit at his right hand and be Lord of heaven and earth.
@bartjo1
@bartjo1 2 года назад
@@ctglenn1 false. He was put to death for blasphemy. The only two forms of blasphemy in Scripture are “claiming to be God” and “claiming to forgive sins” of which Jesus did. He claimed to be God.
@316diag
@316diag Месяц назад
"I and My Father are ONE." Jesus declares it a unity, not a trinity.
@azopene
@azopene 26 дней назад
Yes. One in thought, one in deed, and one in purpose. An example of oneness.: My wife and I became as one when we married.
@randallwittman2720
@randallwittman2720 2 месяца назад
Related Is the NWT Bible's translation of John 1:1 accurate?
@DarthTwilight
@DarthTwilight 5 лет назад
"Before Abraham was, I AM."
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 5 лет назад
Tell me, how is what Jesus said at John 8:58 Scriptural proof that three co-equal, co-eternal persons make up the same "one God"?
@defiance1790
@defiance1790 5 лет назад
“Before Abraham was, I have been” - is what Jehovah Witnesses believe it to say, using their New World Translation.
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 5 лет назад
@@defiance1790 Tell me, what did Jesus say at John 8:58 in _any_ Bible that gives you the impression that God is a trinity?
@justthefacts9373
@justthefacts9373 5 лет назад
@@defiance1790 ----news flash......so do the Jews see it that way.....you have been spoon-fed a false doctrine and there is a RU-vid video by rabbi tovia singer that explains it
@ea-tr1jh
@ea-tr1jh 5 лет назад
@mr. mr "he said before Abraham was I existed. To think that he said anything different is putting meaning that isn't there." No. You're implying that he said "Before Abraham was, I was (prederite tense)/ I have been (perfect tense)." However, that is not what the Greek grammar asserts. The Greek says, "I am" (present tense). In our traditional understanding of grammar, using two different tenses and then connecting them (as Jesus did: "Before Abraham *was,* I *am.")* wouldn't make sense. However, it makes sense when you think of God's nature. God is from everlasting to everlasting. Jesus used the present tense to represent His eternality. You are incorrect when you say it only means is that Jesus existed before Abraham, because the verse doesn't say that. It doesn't say, "Before Abraham was, I was (or "I have been")," it says, "Before Abraham was, *I am."* A Hebrew word study of the title "I am" (the same phrase, but in the Greek in the NT) in the OT will reveal this. You accuse them of inserting meaning into the text, but it is you doing that exact thing because you say that Jesus intended it to mean like in the past tense (Before Abraham was, I existED), when He so obviously uses the present tense. The Bible never says that Jesus is a created being. Jesus was begotten, not made.
@margpeterson9721
@margpeterson9721 2 года назад
Here is something I read: " The trinity teaches that God asked himself to go to earth to save mankind. *Then he agreed with himself and volunteered himself to offer himself. *Then God impregnated a woman as himself as himself. *God prayed to himself and glorified himself repeatedly. *God strengthened himself and talked to himself. *Finally God forsook himself and sacrificed himself to prove his loyalty to himself. *While dead he resurrected himself so he could exalt himself above himself. *Then he sat at his own right hand and waited until he placed his enemies as a footstool. *Finally with Satan's forces defeated, God would turn his kingdom over to himself...that all things would become everything to himself."
@MyEpiphanies89
@MyEpiphanies89 2 года назад
Yeah, I don’t believe it makes much sense for them to be one in the sense that they are the same. They’re only one in the way that they are related and united.
@davidfrey5654
@davidfrey5654 2 года назад
The concept of the trinity is kinda ridiculous when you think about it.
@staceygrove7295
@staceygrove7295 2 года назад
That about sums it up!
@lwmaynard5180
@lwmaynard5180 2 года назад
NIMROD the Narcissistic Opposer of JEHOVAH , Is the father of the TRINITY Deities ? ? ? What has Light to do with darkness ? ? ?
@dr.sergiom3865
@dr.sergiom3865 2 года назад
@@lwmaynard5180 Nimrod's and every pagan religion's trinity: Nimrod (sun father god), Semirramis (moon mother goddess), Tamuz (sun son god). Catholicism (paganized "christinaity"): God the Father, virgin "Mary" queen of heaven and mother of child god, Jesus Christ the Son. God: God the Father, Jesus Christ His Son, God's Holy Spirit from God. Isaiah 42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
@lesliev7874
@lesliev7874 7 месяцев назад
Hi Mike. I am struggling with the concept of the Trinity. You define it as 1 God, but 3 persons; Father, Son, and HolySpirit. Here lies my confusion. Could you please help clarify these terms. 1. A person is defined as a human being regarded as an individual. (Not a group) 2. A father is defined as a male in relationship to his children. Also as creator, originator, and founder. 3. A son is defined as a male In relationship to his father, or parents. He is their offspring, descendant and heir. (This implies a lineage.)
@tisham6645
@tisham6645 6 месяцев назад
I would too. Seems God in his wisdom in Isa. passages spoke of only himself and what he was going too do though Christ too come. And that is pushed aside for3 ?? I see that Jesus had God's spirit placed upon him, saying he could do nothing of himself Saying God is sprit Declared God was with him Many other things but When Christ talked with his disciples From the last supper he explains only him and his Father spirit ...not a 3 rd And nothing was told from God in Ot about a 3rd . Yes Christ in the flesh is person of linages both priest and king . Acts 2 ( 22-36 ) I could go on , but a trini ?? 1 hour and 25 minutes for this ??
@traversniemi5342
@traversniemi5342 6 месяцев назад
Your role plays sounds like a better argument than what your belief is. You actually sold me on the fact that christ is not god . Thank you for that.
@HoldToChrist
@HoldToChrist 3 месяца назад
I mean, the Bible directly and indirectly calls Jesus God either way. You still have to wrestle with that regardless of passages that say things that seem odd to the idea that Jesus is God.
@xwingvalet5267
@xwingvalet5267 3 года назад
You are literally going through the EXACT litany of scriptures that Jehovahs Witnesses use to attack the trinity and the divinity of Jesus. This teaching is extremely valuable not only for apologetics but to fortify what we believe. Thanks Mike again and I too would die on this hill.....
@xwingvalet5267
@xwingvalet5267 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 thank you for your thoughtful reply, however I vehemently disagree . You are deceived and I pray that the Holy Spirit illuminates the errors of your false doctrine and brings you into the truth
@xwingvalet5267
@xwingvalet5267 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 When Jesus is baptized the Father , the Son , and the Holy Spirit are all present. John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Clearly they are separate persons. So much more on this. Oh and we know God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, AND sovereign, yet none of those words appear in scripture, we can infer them, same as the trinity, it is a doctrine that is made abundantly clear by the Holy Spirit himself... the Spirit testifies with our spirit
@John-st7bf
@John-st7bf 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 In Matthew 16:13-17, Jesus says my father, meaning that He is the Son of God: Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" And they said, "Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets." He said to them, *"But who do you say that I am?"* Simon Peter replied, *"You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." And Jesus answered him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven.* God SPEAKS THROUGH HIS SON. As for John 8:24 ► John 8:27 ► says They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father. Jesus was talking about HIS FATHER. John 8:24-27 is proof God was speaking through his son
@John-st7bf
@John-st7bf 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 Numbers 23:19 ► *God is not a man,* that he should lie; *neither the son of man,* that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? Hosea 11:9 - I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: *for I am God, and not man;* the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city. John 4:24 ► *God is spirit,* and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth." Even Jesus explains it in a very simple way the differences between a Spirit & flesh & bones Luke 24:39 ► Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; *for a spirit hath not flesh and bones,* as ye see me have. Half-truth and cherry-picking Denny will put you into error everytime 😉
@tongakhan230
@tongakhan230 3 года назад
Jason Kruzel : Considering the fact that JWs were once believers in a trinity theory and through a study if the bible shed such belief, it might be that they got it right. Many are on the road to destruction. Few are on the road to life as Jesus pointed out. Matthew 7:13,14 Doesn't that exclude trinity believers as they are the MANY.
@Heaveniswaitingforyou
@Heaveniswaitingforyou 2 года назад
Ex 2×2 Cult member. Thank you so much! God led me to this video and by the power of the Holy Spirit I believe it! Praise God! 🙏
@tongakhan230
@tongakhan230 2 года назад
Isn't this a case of from the frying pan into the fire? Jesus had been SEEN by humans, including the apostle John. Here is what he testified to: 'No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME.' - 1 John 4:12,20 Just something to reason on.
@destroyerofyorks
@destroyerofyorks 2 года назад
@@tongakhan230 Exodus 33 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹⁷ And the LORD said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name. ¹⁸ And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory. ¹⁹ And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy. ²⁰ And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. ²¹ And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: ²² And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: ²³ And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen. Job 4 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹³ In thoughts from the visions of the night, when deep sleep falleth on men, ¹⁴ Fear came upon me, and trembling, which made all my bones to shake. ¹⁵ Then a spirit passed before my face; the hair of my flesh stood up: ¹⁶ It stood still, but I could not discern the form thereof: an image was before mine eyes, there was silence, and I heard a voice, saying, Job could see a shape, but could not fully see it, showing that you can infact see God a little. And this right here pretty much states Jesus is God John 1 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ² The same was in the beginning with God. ³ All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. ⁴ In him was life; and the life was the light of men. ⁵ And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. ⁶ There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. ⁷ The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. ⁸ He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. ⁹ That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. ¹⁰ He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. ¹¹ He came unto his own, and his own received him not. ¹² But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: ¹³ Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. ¹⁴ And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. ¹⁵ John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. ¹⁶ And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. ¹⁷ For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
@tongakhan230
@tongakhan230 2 года назад
@@destroyerofyorks : If the Creator of this universe Jehovah God comes close to this earth, the earth will evaporate in a nuclear explosion. The earth cannot go closer to the sun. God sends his angels to speak for him They are depicted by Moses as being God himself. Because they were SENT by God to SPEAK God's words and not their own. God told Moses THROUGH an angel that humans can never see him (ie God) and continue to exist (Exodus 33:20). Because readers could assume that the angels who are depicted as God were God himself, John wrote the qualifier 'ANY TIME'. This would clear up any confusion for the reader. This certainly rules Jesus - a son of God - being God at ANY or even SOME TIME. We MUST accept Bible truth. Why would we look for ways to discredit clear unambiguous statements of truth found in the Bible.
@rickhuntling7338
@rickhuntling7338 2 года назад
@@tongakhan230 who is seated in Isa. 6:1? Who does Jn. 12:40,41 say it is? In context the "GOD" in 1st Jn. 4:12,20 is referencing the FATHER.
@tongakhan230
@tongakhan230 2 года назад
@@rickhuntling7338 : There! One is correct! Every time the term God appears, IT ONLY APPLIES to the God and Father of Jesus and his disciples (John 20:17). Under what mitigating circumstances will it also refer to Jesus? Isaiah 6:1 In the year that King Uz·zi′ah died, I saw Jehovah (YHWH) sitting on a lofty and elevated throne, and the skirts of his robe filled the temple.
@lyndawingo
@lyndawingo 6 месяцев назад
Trying to understand how it works. Please explain Ephesians chapter 1 to me using the trinity concepts you taught.
@ronhughes1407
@ronhughes1407 7 месяцев назад
This might sound dumb, I really struggle wrapping my mind around this concept. Is it right to say that God came down in the form of his own son to die for our sins? And God also makes himself personally within us in the form of the Holy Spirit. I think I get confused understanding Jesus as the Son of God making it hard for me to understand as the trinity. I am hoping someone will comment with a tip on how to help me understand. Thanks in advance.
@Clayton-ark40
@Clayton-ark40 5 месяцев назад
GOD IS ONE , JESUS IS HIS PERFECT VESSEL (JOHN 1:1)
@NATURLIST
@NATURLIST 2 года назад
In the book of Act, the Bible clearly say: "God is Spirit, so worship him in spirit and truth", so therefore the 1 God in entirety is a Spirit, so to say spirit is a separate person of a fractional part out of 3 parts that make up 1 whole GOD is absurd!
@chris092283
@chris092283 4 года назад
Your in your 40's?!?!?!? Man you look good brother, i thought maybe late 20's or early 30's!
@VitoHoffa
@VitoHoffa 4 года назад
He's 40 ? No way wow that's amazing. I thought he was like 24
@TheKingofdans
@TheKingofdans 4 года назад
@@VitoHoffa 24? C'mon I would've said 36
@queen-asia2184
@queen-asia2184 3 года назад
Right!! I was shocked too! I thought like 34.
@leonardodavincioso4359
@leonardodavincioso4359 3 года назад
@@queen-asia2184 there's a difference between the Old Testament and New Testament one God. The Old Testament one God is 'me' Exodus 20:2-3 'You shall have no other gods/elohim before me': 'I am the LORD your God/Elohim/Gods who have brought you out of the land of Egypt out of the house of bondage': there's no other God, Gods/Elohim/God, Savior, Redeemer, Jehovah/Yahweh/LORD, Rock, Creator 'who brought you out of the land of Egypt out of the house of bondage' there's no other LORD/God/Elohim/Gods 'and the LORD went before them by day ... and by night' Exodus 13:21. Jesus is the saviour from sins Matthew 1:21 'for he shall save his people from their sins', no other beside him that saves from sin. 'Having purged our sins sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high' Hebrews 1:3.
@djparsons7363
@djparsons7363 3 года назад
20's or 30's would be his IQ.
@rebekahhiebert8238
@rebekahhiebert8238 2 месяца назад
@Mike Winger. I'm learning all about Jesus and The father. I was born and raised a Jehovah's Witness. I left and feel a strong pulling to go to church and to read my bible daily. I'm about 3 years I to my new journey. I've come far in my understanding of the trinity but some uncertainty is still left if im honest with myself. It's to be expected I suppose after 27 years of JW teachings. Another question I have is why Jesus said, "All authority has been given to me by the Father," if he is of the same authority? Didn't he say this after he was risen and went back to heaven? If so, we can't say it is because he was in human form at the time so at that time, The Father was greater because he was in Spirit form at that time. Explain please.
@NelsonSerrano-iz6lj
@NelsonSerrano-iz6lj Месяц назад
In 2 Peter 1:1, does that same rule apply when they speak of Peter as "a servant and apostle "?
@dariongonzalez7730
@dariongonzalez7730 Год назад
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for taking the time to record this video.
@scepticskeptic1663
@scepticskeptic1663 10 месяцев назад
"i believe the whole bible when it says jesus is god hes god when it says jesus is firstborne hes oh wait no"
@daviddaniel2198
@daviddaniel2198 Месяц назад
Being brought up in the JW cult “never baptized changed my mind when they couldn’t answer my questions” I am so thankful to fully understand the Trinity.
@777Tralfaz777
@777Tralfaz777 Месяц назад
There is no trinity. (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him. _That is what the Bible teaches._ You done messed up. 😀
@StretchMn
@StretchMn Месяц назад
What questions couldn't they answer David?
@daviddaniel2198
@daviddaniel2198 Месяц назад
@@777Tralfaz777 correct there is one Elohim, and one Yahweh. Trinitarians do not believe in modalism so there is nothing wrong with the text and this is a Trinitarian text and one that we Trinitarians use against modalism. In Rev 5:13,14 why is it that all creation bows down and worships to him who sits down on the throne and to the Lamb? Please don’t waste my time with the thought that the Father and the Son sit on a literal throne because anyone with understanding knows that means Gods power as in his right over all creation.
@daviddaniel2198
@daviddaniel2198 Месяц назад
@@StretchMn 1975….. my aunt claimed to be a JW anointed and she preached stay alive until 75 and today it is like it never happened and there is nothing but excuses that are being made. How can a generation overlap another generation? 586/587 in comparison to 607 they also could not answer.
@777Tralfaz777
@777Tralfaz777 Месяц назад
@@daviddaniel2198 Does the Almighty have a God over him?
@dsablan319
@dsablan319 4 месяца назад
This was amazing! I have 10-15 family members who are JW & while I don’t argue with them, I will speak up to defend our faith. Do you have any pdf references or resources?
@truechristianity74
@truechristianity74 4 месяца назад
Elohim in Genesis 1: God or Gods? Robert M. Bowman Jr. Post date: January 9, 2012 Copyright © 2010 Institute for Religious Research Elohim Symbol Isn’t the Hebrew word elohim found in Genesis 1:1 (and throughout Genesis 1) literally a plural form, meaning “gods”? If this is correct, why don’t English versions translate it that way? Does Genesis 1:1 mean that many gods made the world, as Mormonism and some other religions claim? The Hebrew word elohim is grammatically a plural form, and in a couple hundred occurrences in the Old Testament does mean “gods.” However, about 2,600 times elohim functions as a singular noun. We know this for four reasons. First, in these passages it is very common for the noun to take singular pronouns, verbs, and descriptive nouns. If you read a sentence saying “Elohim is good,” you know that Elohim in this sentence must be singular because the verb is singular (“is”). The same thing applies to expressions like “Elohim our Father” or “Elohim sits on his throne.” We see this use of singular words in relation to Elohim right in the first verse of the Bible: “In the beginning God [Elohim] created the heavens and the earth” (Gen. 1:1). The verb “created” in this verse is singular, not plural. Second, the Old Testament frequently uses the word Elohim as a name or title for Yahweh (Jehovah), who is of course a singular being. For example, Genesis 2:4 refers to the Creator as Yahweh Elohim (Jehovah God). Over half of the verses in the Old Testament that use the name Elohim also refer to him directly as Yahweh. Third, the ancient Greek translation of the Old Testament known as the Septuagint translated the Hebrew word Elohim in these contexts as “God,” not “gods.” For example, Genesis 1:1 in the Septuagint says, “In the beginning God [theos, the singular word for “God”) made the heavens and the earth.” Fourth, the New Testament, written in Greek, also uses the singular form theos when quoting Old Testament texts referring to Elohim. For example, Jesus quoted Deuteronomy 6:13 as saying, “You shall worship the Lord your God and serve him only” (Matt. 4:10). In the Hebrew text, Deuteronomy 6:13 says Elohim. In both the Septuagint and in the quotation in Matthew, the Greek word used is the singular theos. These four facts prove beyond reasonable doubt that Genesis 1:1 is referring to a single God, not a group of gods, when it speaks about Elohim creating the world.
@essennagerry
@essennagerry 5 лет назад
1:03:12 that was freaky! I actually said "He did" out loud even though I'm home alone haha
@nikkibikkixo
@nikkibikkixo 2 года назад
Thank you brother!! Great approach and great reasoning. It is so important to know the Bible and be able to refute these questions from those who don't. Have saved the video and will study it in greater depth. God bless you and muliply your work.
@Mawuli_Tameklo
@Mawuli_Tameklo 2 года назад
Don't study this video, study the bible itself, and don't rely on any other external work to understand this subject. God is NOT a trinity! Read the book of John carefully with pauses.
@nikkibikkixo
@nikkibikkixo 2 года назад
@@Mawuli_Tameklo I do study the Bible. Interesting that you bring up the book of John ... ever taken a peek at the first chapter?
@StretchMn
@StretchMn 2 года назад
@@nikkibikkixo I agree. The first chapter is great to show how the trinity theory is wrong. And even more proven with the rest of the chapters. And then, even more so when you look at the whole gospel. But back to John. Who is the God with at Jo. 1:1?
@garryellison9438
@garryellison9438 2 года назад
When Jesus ascended to heaven who told him to sit at my right hand until I put your enemy's at your feet ? Why is it so difficult for you to except Jesus is the only begotten son of God and why does God have his own name Yahweh /Jehovah . You are following pagen rubbish.
@Mawuli_Tameklo
@Mawuli_Tameklo 2 года назад
@@garryellison9438 Thank you brothers. I don't understand why with everything the bible says, even though the bible doesn't consider God, Jesus the Messiah, and the holy spirit as trinity, they keep using that word and doctrine to refer to them?
@BrJD-ii4iv
@BrJD-ii4iv 4 месяца назад
It’s not that they’re attacking the Trinity. It simply doesn’t make sense. God is a Spirit (John 4:24) and not a person/man (Numbers 23:19/Hosea 11:9).
@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22
@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22 4 месяца назад
Peace be with you Friend ❤️ For Numbers 23:19 In each case God is distinguishing himself against sinful humanity. The point is that it is his actions which are different from a man's. At the same time, Jesus himself said "God is Spirit" (John 4:24). The Bible consistently affirms there is a difference between the Creator and the created (the Creator-creature distinction). Jesus is on the 'Creator' side of that divide (John 1:3). The wonder of the incarnation is not that God is just the same as us, but rather the perfect and holy Son of God became one of us. The Bible teaches that, There is One God that Exists in 3 persons: The Father(Galatians 1:1) The Son(Hebrews 1:8) The Holy Spirit(Acts 5:3-4) ❤️✝️🕊️
@StretchMn
@StretchMn 4 месяца назад
You're correct JD. The trinity is both pagan and false.
@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22
@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22 4 месяца назад
@@StretchMn Peace be with you Friend ❤️ The Bible teaches that there is One God that exists in three Persons: Father,(Galatians 1:1) Son,(Hebrews 1:8) and the Holy Spirit(Acts 5:3-4) ❤️
@reecedobson4740
@reecedobson4740 4 месяца назад
Your doing Gods work! Thank you for this teaching ❤
@777Tralfaz777
@777Tralfaz777 4 месяца назад
God's work is not about spreading the trinitarian lie. (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22
@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22 4 месяца назад
Amen 🙏🏻❤ ‭‭2 Peter 1:1 JUB‬‬ [1] ¶ Simon Peter, slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those that have obtained like *precious faith with us in the righteousness of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ:* Context: In 2 Peter 1. Peter writes this letter to encourage Christians to live out the purpose of their lives in Christ. He warns readers to beware of teachers who claim to be believers, but present a false version of Christianity. And, Peter calls on all Christians to eagerly watch and wait for the return of the Lord. Yeshua, Our Lord God & Saviour ❤ The Eternal Son of God, Uncreated & Equal with the Father & the Holy Spirit in Essence, Nature & Glory 🙏🏻✝️🕊️❤️
@snowdust5382
@snowdust5382 Год назад
I've never before found biblical founding for the idea of the trinity, but after watching this video I still haven't.
@lorenadias6730
@lorenadias6730 Год назад
Pray about it
@snowdust5382
@snowdust5382 Год назад
@@lorenadias6730 I will and I ask that you read and search for it
@Marin224
@Marin224 Год назад
Just out of curiosity, would u say u are a Unitarian or not Christian
@snowdust5382
@snowdust5382 Год назад
@@Marin224 I don't associate with any denomination. I follow the God of the Abraham to the best of my ability. And take my religion/relationship with the Father in my own hands and my understanding of what has been written. I try not to let others decide what the scripture means and I read and try to understand it as it was meant to be
@ArmorofValor
@ArmorofValor Год назад
Have you been baptized? That's how you get the Holy Spirit to be your Counselor and Helper to have discernment to understand the Word.
@forthewin369
@forthewin369 Год назад
19:35 200% is "right" because it indicates more than what we know is possible. That's the point.
@StretchMn
@StretchMn Год назад
"TRULY" he is false lol!
@MyRedeemerJesusMin.
@MyRedeemerJesusMin. 4 месяца назад
Is it safe to stay in this church? I need help.
@lighthousenetwork.tv-media
@lighthousenetwork.tv-media Месяц назад
what do you mean?
@YouSeeTheProof
@YouSeeTheProof 3 месяца назад
Can you turn on closed captions please.
@carlosrsetien7910
@carlosrsetien7910 2 года назад
50:53 felt really warm in the heart to hear this
@mbblukoke9333
@mbblukoke9333 9 месяцев назад
I think we may be wrong, cause our limited minds can't understand what is of God, he is unimaginable, undescribable, amazing being, that's why he is God, So we can know all about him once we become like him in the spiritual realm. And remember one thing he is beyond all even our minds ❤️
@mbblukoke9333
@mbblukoke9333 5 месяцев назад
@@noself7889 he is God
@catcerson
@catcerson 3 месяца назад
Not to be nitpicky but please capitalize things reffering to God, such as He, His, Him, etc. And also when He is talking in first person and you quote it, capitalize Me, I, etc. If you are talking directly to him on text, capitalize Your, Yours, You, etc. And other things too. Just be sure to capitalize things like this out of respect for God.
@mbblukoke9333
@mbblukoke9333 3 месяца назад
@@catcerson 😐 i respect him, whether I show it in my English knowledge or not. 👍
@CuriousMarg
@CuriousMarg 4 месяца назад
Love this so much. I am so sad my sister and her fiance got pulled to Unitarian views. They don’t believe in trinity because of apparently Catholics creating the word and they don’t believe Jesus is God. Please pray for them 🙏🏽
@catcerson
@catcerson 3 месяца назад
Some Catholics are Trinitarians, I will pray for your sister and her fiance.
@derekhanusch4593
@derekhanusch4593 6 месяцев назад
Being a person is a type of being. We can even refer to "being a person." Actually, it's a very significant type of being since it is self-aware and has agency. The distinction b/t three persons and one being doesn't make as much sense as you suggest unless you mean 'essential being,' or 'ousia,' in which case it is more like 'type'. Anyway, big fan of ya Mike. Just figured I'd share.
@signsinthesun6926
@signsinthesun6926 2 года назад
You started by explaining the “doctrine of the trinity” according to a pre-conceived belief or idea, then attempted to find verses in the Bible that support your doctrine. That is not how the Word of God should be read. Reading it this way can be used to prove almost anything you’ve set out to prove. Instead, you should read the Bible as a whole to find out what God wants to tell us about who He is. Not what you want Him to be according to your pre-conceived ideas. If you have to rely on outside human authors like James White to explain a doctrine that is not clearly explained in the Bible, you are misleading yourself and many others who listen to you. Unless James White, and others like him, received a revelation from the Most High directly, their books and words can tell us NOTHING about who God REALLY IS. The “Word of God” became flesh in order to tell us everything we need to know about who or what God is. No other outside sources are needed. You later claim that you believe the entire Bible and claim that Jesus is not the Son of God, but God himself. By doing so, you are turning God and His Son into liars! Nowhere in the entire Bible are the words ‘God the Son’ or ‘God the Holy Spirit’ mentioned. It’s almost always God the Father. The doctrine that you are teaching is NOT mentioned or explained by any apostle or disciple of Messiah. The trinity doctrine is a man-made philosophical abstraction meant to confuse people and turn a true relationship with our Creator into worshipping of an incomprehensible impersonal deity. We worship a REAL LIVING Heavenly Father, not a triune being with multiple personality disorder.
@StretchMn
@StretchMn 2 года назад
SO TRUE! That is exactly what trinitarians do.
@tongakhan230
@tongakhan230 2 года назад
If is similar to a Judge convicting someone. Then ordering the police to look for evidence to help with his decision. These videos alone prove that the Trinity is a scam.
@joeydelrio
@joeydelrio 2 года назад
but thats the only way the doctrine works, first you invent the doctrine, then you cut little bits and pieces out of the bible from one end to the other, place them all back together, and do your little smoke and mirror act.
@StretchMn
@StretchMn 2 года назад
@@joeydelrio Thats a great way to explain it!
@addajjalsonofallah6217
@addajjalsonofallah6217 2 года назад
@@tongakhan230 trinity isn't false You can use quantum mechanics to explain the biblical trinity Jesus Christ, Father, Holy Spirit are three aspects of the same thing Just as Space and Time are two aspects of the same thing called Spacetime Therefore Son Father Holy spirit Are three aspects of an entity called God
@debbieloy5284
@debbieloy5284 2 года назад
Thank you so much for teaching the Word of God. And that he is the Foundation of REALITY. I NEEDED TO HEAR THAT. Thank you again for clearly explaining the Word.
@bettyrose5387
@bettyrose5387 2 года назад
( 171 ) O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs. ( 172 ) Never would the Messiah disdain to be a servant of Allah, nor would the angels near [to Him]. And whoever disdains His worship and is arrogant - He will gather them to Himself all together. 173 ) And as for those who believed and did righteous deeds, He will give them in full their rewards and grant them extra from His bounty. But as for those who disdained and were arrogant, He will punish them with a painful punishment, and they will not find for themselves besides Allah any protector or helper. ( 174 ) O mankind, there has come to you a conclusive proof from your Lord, and We have sent down to you a clear light. Surat Annisaa (The Women), Holy Qur'an.
@tongakhan230
@tongakhan230 2 года назад
With respect. This sounds like a sigh of relief. 'I've believed the Trinity blindly for so long. At last someone has come along and explained my belief to me.' If beliefs were based on truth, this scripture should have been taken into consideration. 'No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME.' - 1 John 4:12,20. Jesus had been SEEN. Just some help.
@clifswan4424
@clifswan4424 5 месяцев назад
i love ya brother. im not here to troll. i may become a roots kinda Christian and i have an honest question. The history of Mary conceiving our Lord/GOD. in the history Mary is found with child by the HOLY Ghost. Doesn't that make the Holy Ghost the father.
@hoyvintagecycles2936
@hoyvintagecycles2936 7 месяцев назад
Do we need to defend it? Is there a salvation consequence for not knowing or believing in the trinity? Im actually asking and not being sarcastic fyi. thanks!
@777Tralfaz777
@777Tralfaz777 7 месяцев назад
What did Jesus say? (John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. Would "knowing God" include false ideas about God? The trinity does not come from the Bible, but from men. (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
@hoyvintagecycles2936
@hoyvintagecycles2936 7 месяцев назад
that did not answer my questions. @@777Tralfaz777
@landorl
@landorl Год назад
Thanks! I loved this presentation. This week, I am preaching along these very lines at church, and your teaching gave me some more inspiration for my sermon. I am speaking on our statement of beliefs, and am talking about the trinity this week. I was worried that people would see it as just an academic teaching, but you starting with the 7 questions shows how important it is to know these things. Thanks for that!
@NickHawaii
@NickHawaii Год назад
But the Bible doesn’t teach 3 persons in 1 God. No scripture says that.
@putjesusfirst9217
@putjesusfirst9217 Год назад
you want to understand the Trinity? Here you go The Father is God in His Glory They Son is God in flesh the Word The Holy Spirit is Gods Presence Look at it this way, we are created in God image We are also 3n1 When we die, our flesh is buried on earth, our spirit departs from our flesh an goes to heaven or hell. (now we are in two diffwrbtb places at once like Jesus), but we are one person At the rapture we will get our glorified bodies. We have our flesh, spirits, glorified bodies 1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Moses also says the same in Exodus Hopefully now you understand the Trinity
@NickHawaii
@NickHawaii Год назад
@@putjesusfirst9217 No we are never in 2 places at one time. One central place of consciousness. And there are problems with “God” being in 1 Timothy 3:16. Look at the manuscript evidence. Most trinitarian translations now have it WHOM or HE.
@reijishian2593
@reijishian2593 Год назад
For the sake of all the young people in your congregation, please do not shy away from "academic" teaching. If not answered, it is the academic questions that cause people to spurn the faith when they become adults.
@NickHawaii
@NickHawaii Год назад
@@reijishian2593 What kind of “academic questions”?
@j_5244
@j_5244 3 года назад
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
@John-st7bf
@John-st7bf 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 dude your cherry-picking, you have to deny most of the bible to fit your twisted beliefs in.
@StretchMn
@StretchMn 3 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 Jo. 1:18 - No man hath seen God at anytime... They saw Jesus! Did John lie?
@josuekamokokalunga9989
@josuekamokokalunga9989 2 года назад
@@John-st7bf what are you saying??? Go tell a Jewish that we have 3Gods noooo nooo there's no 3persons in the bible. There's nooo 3Gods but 1 God in 3 offices. Noooo 3persons. 3offices of the one God
@michaelzimmerman8959
@michaelzimmerman8959 2 года назад
@@alphonsedenny4962 that's good 👍
@John-st7bf
@John-st7bf 2 года назад
@@josuekamokokalunga9989 did Jesus Father himself?
@AdonGiboin
@AdonGiboin 2 месяца назад
To me the concept of the Trinity invalidates the sacrifice Jesus makes. How can God be and advocate for us to himself are we being tricked? how can you call the atonement a sacrifice or even a big deal if its just a essentially a clone of God in human form? The Trinity suggests God himself was too afraid to take on the pains needed to complete the atonement so creates a separate being to do that part so he dosn't have to. Or did God the Father also feel the pains the Son goes through? I used to think Jesus is literally his Son and Gods part of the Sacrifice is akin to a father giving up his child but is it? or is Jesus just a version of God, used to suffer for our sins in place of the Father?, where is the sacrifice if God is Sacrificing a version of himself he knows will be fine? how does God have the audacity to make Abraham sacrifice his son as a representation of whats to come when the Trinity suggests these two things are completely different? God knows everything is going to work out so does Jesus? did Jesus know being crucified etc was just a split second in time and 3 days later he'd be fine since he is God? If so where is the sacrifice? Why plead to change the plan in the Garden of Gethsemane if Jesus being God knew everything was going to be fine? Jesus is the only begotten Son why make this distinction at all if they were not separate but a part of the same being? . We are all children of God so are we the 4th part of the Trinity or are we separate? who can say if Son and Father don't mean how we understand son and father why use this language at all? I don't really believe in God anymore but to me the Trinity seems like the biggest nonsense used to discredit, invalidate and shroud the nature of God and Jesus and who would want to do that?.
@777Tralfaz777
@777Tralfaz777 2 месяца назад
God could not provide the sacrifice for 2 reasons. 1) and most importantly, God cannot die. 2) If God provided the sacrifice, it would not balance what Adam did, on the scales of justice, but would be infinitely greater. It took a perfect sinless man to balance the scales. The trinity is a false doctrine. It is not found in the Bible. At best, people try to show "Jesus is God", therefore trinity. That is 99% of their argument.
@ebt777
@ebt777 15 дней назад
I have recently heard people refuting the Trinity by pointing out Matthew 27:46. "My God, My God, why have you foraaken Me?". I have searched and can't find an answer. Please help!
@StretchMn
@StretchMn 15 дней назад
That is a good scripture to show the trinity theory is false. But we can also listen to Jesus. Jesus said to worship the Father only like he does. Jesus also said that the Father is the only true God.
@alwilson3204
@alwilson3204 2 года назад
Appreciate this and all your videos taking the time in properly defending our sacred Protestant faith. You are loved!
@bettyrose5387
@bettyrose5387 2 года назад
( 171 ) O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs. ( 172 ) Never would the Messiah disdain to be a servant of Allah, nor would the angels near [to Him]. And whoever disdains His worship and is arrogant - He will gather them to Himself all together. 173 ) And as for those who believed and did righteous deeds, He will give them in full their rewards and grant them extra from His bounty. But as for those who disdained and were arrogant, He will punish them with a painful punishment, and they will not find for themselves besides Allah any protector or helper. ( 174 ) O mankind, there has come to you a conclusive proof from your Lord, and We have sent down to you a clear light. Surat Annisaa (The Women), Holy Qur'an.
@tongakhan230
@tongakhan230 2 года назад
Might be good to check out what the first Century Christians believed. John was not only the beloved apostle of Jesus but also a close relative. Here is what he wrote: 'No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME.' - 1 John 4:12,20. I understand that ANY TIME takes in ALL POSSIBILITIES. Jesus was SEEN. BTW the Trinity was a RCC baby. The Protestants borrowed it when they broke away. Hope this helps.
@angelt.5276
@angelt.5276 2 года назад
@@tongakhan230 Uh, where does Scripture tell us that the apostle John was related to Jesus? Futhermore, the verses from 1 John pertain to someone seeing God in His full glory (think back to Moses' encounters with God in Exodus). John wrote about Jesus as the God-Man at length, just look at John 1 alone. I hope this helped clarify that passage for you!
@tongakhan230
@tongakhan230 2 года назад
@@angelt.5276 : Did John write 'No man has SEEN God in his full glory' or 'No man has SEEN God AT ANY TIME'? Why twist John's words to make them mean something else. AT ANY TIME will include (if possible) God in his Full, Half, or Zero glory. Even if God changed into a bird, angel or human. HE HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN. Moses was told by God: (Exodus 33:20) But (God) added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.” Did Moses respond: "But Lord. Many have seen you, I included, yet we never blew out of existence!" NO! Because Moses knew that humans can never SEE God and continue to exist. He knew that all the so-called sightings of 'God' were ANGEL ENVOYS from God. Let us take a familiar incident. Exodus 3:2 Then JEHOVAH'S ANGEL appeared to him in a flame of fire in the midst of a thornbush. As he kept looking, he saw that the thornbush was on fire, and yet the thornbush was not consumed 4 When Jehovah saw that he went over to look, God called to him out of the thornbush and said: “Moses! Moses!” to which he said: “Here I am.” 5 Then he said: “Do not come any nearer. Remove your sandals from your feet, because the place where you are standing is holy ground.” Who is it that Moses records as Jehovah and God speaking? Was it Jehovah himself? The answer is at the start. It was Jehovah's ANGEL. Remember Moses wrote many of those historic incidents. When the President send his Envoy to deliver a warning message to a leader of another country, the Newspapers state 'The President told so-and-so...' However, the ACTUAL WORDS were spoken NOT BY THE PRESIDENT but by HIS ENVOY. These angels were SENT by God. They did not come on missions of their own. That is why their words are said to be those of God's. Jesus too was SENT by God. He did not come on a mission of his own. That is why he constantly said: John 4:34 Jesus said to them: “My food is to do THE WILL OF HIM (ie God) WHO SENT ME and to FINISH HIS WORK. John 14:24 Whoever does not love me does not observe my words. The word that you are hearing IS NOT MINE, but belongs to the Father WHO SENT ME. This may come to mind: John 19:30 When he had received the sour wine, Jesus said: “IT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED!” and bowing his head, he gave up his spirit. (Jesus accomplished what God has SENT him to do). About John being the cousin of Jesus: 3. The apostle John, son of Zebedee and, it seems, Salome (compare Mt 27:55, 56; Mr 15:40) and brother of the apostle James-likely James’ younger brother, as James is usually named first where both are mentioned. (Mt 10:2; Mr 1:19, 29; 3:17; 10:35, 41; Lu 6:14; 8:51; 9:28; Ac 1:13) Zebedee married Salome of the house of David, possibly the natural sister of Mary the mother of Jesus. When Jesus was about to die: John 19:26 So when Jesus saw HIS MOTHER and THE DISCIPLE WHOM HE LOVED standing nearby, he said to his mother: “Woman, see! Your son!” 27 Next he said to the disciple: “See! Your mother!” And from that hour on, the disciple took her into his own home. Jesus handed over the care of his mother to John because he was family and believed Jesus. Jesus' half brothers were still not his disciples. Mary's spirituality was Jesus' concern.
@joelmascarenhas8105
@joelmascarenhas8105 Год назад
@@tongakhan230 The angel of the LORD is the manifestation of God just like Jesus What will you say about Abraham he directly talks to the LORD God in his spirit form is invisible he can only be seen of he manifests hims
@sparks8375
@sparks8375 Год назад
was doing a refresh on this particular teaching, and just wanted to say thank you Mike! something about the revelation of the spirit being personable brought me to joyous tears and really refreshed my soul. thank you again for your ministry, & allowing God to speak to, & through you. God bless you man much love
@NickHawaii
@NickHawaii Год назад
God is personable. But his spirit is not an actual person. Like God and Jesus who are persons.
@NickHawaii
@NickHawaii Год назад
@@Explanation.513 I am a Christian who does not believe in the trinity. You also described modalism which is not what the scriptures teach. God is one. Not three in one. Jesus has someone always that is God to him so he can’t be that God. He said to have faith in God and ALSO in him. (John 14:1)
@NickHawaii
@NickHawaii Год назад
@@Explanation.513 Thanks for writing. Can you please take a look and tell me what you think. 5:68 Say, "O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord." 10:94-95 If you are in doubt about what We revealed to you, ask those who read the Scripture before you. The truth has come to you from your Lord, so do not be of those who doubt. And do not be of those who deny God’s revelations, lest you become one of the losers. May I point out that the Bible is called al kitab al muqaddas in Arabic, literally, the Holiest of Books. Do you agree?
@NickHawaii
@NickHawaii Год назад
@@Explanation.513 The Quran says: "No one can change the words of God." (Sura 6.34 Al-An'_am [The flocks]). [In Arabic reads: "Là mubaddìla: lìkalima:t Allah," 6:34]. So if you are right the Quran is wrong. The truth is, The Quran proclaims that the Bible is the word of God in many places. (Surah 3:3; Surah 4 ) And, the Quran accepts the Bible as authentic in the 6th Century C.E. when the Quran was composed. If it was acceptable in Muhammed's time, suggesting that it had not yet become corrupted and mistranslated, what do we say of translations today based on manuscripts preceding the birth of Islam? Thousands of copies of scripture predate the Quran by centuries. When compared, as they carefully have been, with later copies, there are in fact no substantial changes in the text - no change in the meaning of the words either. You appear to be repeating what others have told you, not what you have checked and researched for yourself. The claim of Muslims that Allah gave the Torah, the Psalms and the Injil, but then was too weak to protect its contents from imperfect sinful humans is a weak claim/excuse that dishonors the God you claim to honor and acknowledge as having no limits to his power or wisdom. Why do Muslims claim he was weak and incapable of preserving the Torah, the Psalms and the Injil (though the ancient copies of each in fact prove that they WERE properly preserved, but then ask people to believe that the same God who was overpowered by weak and corrupt imperfect humans, WAS able to preserve the Quran. Why does God suddenly become powerful after being so weak that he could be overpowered by imperfect humans prior to the Quran? Are you willing to use the same standard for both books, or do you, like most Muslims, favor a double standard in favor of the Quran?? So God could and did preserve the Quran accurately, but could not and did not do so with the scriptures that preceded it?? Double standard. “He has revealed to you the Book with the truth, confirming the scriptures which preceded it; for He has already revealed the Torah and the Gospel for the guidance of men, and the distinction between right and wrong.” (Surah 3:2, NJD) Also what book of the Bible do you say we don’t know who wrote it? Thanks.
@NickHawaii
@NickHawaii Год назад
@@Explanation.513 So is God so weak he can’t preserve his Word when he says he would even in your Quran? I don’t think those who called themselves Christians really followed Christ or his teachings. The vast majority still don’t. Many have images and idols and the Bible says not to make them or use them in worship.
@TheOptimistsPodcast
@TheOptimistsPodcast 3 месяца назад
But doesnt colosians 1.15 @ 6:00 say "invisible"?? So that would mean that HE exists... right? And the "firstborn" is a "image"? Of the invisible God? Cause if its not visible, then it doesnt mean its not there right? Help me out with the first line...
@andrewcesario2194
@andrewcesario2194 6 месяцев назад
What terms are u talking about
@irvinquijano
@irvinquijano 4 года назад
i'm starting to really like how you teach mike, fascinating
@djadams7795
@djadams7795 4 года назад
Even though Mike is a total charlatan. He is misleading people away from God.
@irvinquijano
@irvinquijano 4 года назад
@@djadams7795 i don't think so buddy
@djadams7795
@djadams7795 4 года назад
Well he is
@irvinquijano
@irvinquijano 4 года назад
@messiahjesusbible dot com and you're leading yourself stray to hell so get your things together.
@davidthompson2189
@davidthompson2189 4 года назад
@@irvinquijano Jesus has a website, you should have seen the clue - DUH
@denissutherland3653
@denissutherland3653 5 лет назад
John 17 : 21 "...... Holy Father, keep them in your Name, which you gave to me, that they may be one, as we are one."
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 5 лет назад
Tell me, what does John 17:1 have to do with God's being a trinity? Didn't you bother to read verse 3 where Jesus called his Father--not a trinity--the "only true God"? The word "only" means "to the exclusion of others." Since the Father is God to the exclusion of others, how many other true Gods can there be? Answer: *NONE!*
@bobbyways2431
@bobbyways2431 4 года назад
@@cbooth151 You're explanation is the truth of Jesus, cbooth151.
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 4 года назад
@@bobbyways2431 Thanks.I also told the truth about the trinity, which is a lie.
@bobbyways2431
@bobbyways2431 4 года назад
@@cbooth151 Jesus have God. (John 20:17) Trinitarians deny that fact. They're proud being opposers of Jesus.
@lyndonray7084
@lyndonray7084 4 года назад
@@cbooth151 yes, God is One. Look up the meaning of Yahovah. self -existant One!!
@estefanosssalibi8844
@estefanosssalibi8844 2 месяца назад
My brothers and sisters in Christ, what does "Persons" mean in the trinity? I am confused.
@JesusCruz-nx9ts
@JesusCruz-nx9ts 6 месяцев назад
Are we forgiven for lifetime of all our sins? And where can I find it in the Bible.
@susanpinto1888
@susanpinto1888 3 года назад
I found this channel just yesterday, been consuming your content like crrrraaaaazzzziiieeeee since.. It's amazing...
@chergilles
@chergilles 3 года назад
You shouldn't be...
@anthonypaul8427
@anthonypaul8427 3 года назад
This is what's up!
@sphagbog
@sphagbog 3 года назад
Yes. I binge listened to Mike when I discovered him. The OT stuff is especially interesting and enjoyable.
@djparsons7363
@djparsons7363 3 года назад
@@arceneaux66 Mike is an ignorant liar!
@rebelmadesaint3118
@rebelmadesaint3118 3 года назад
He’s good in a lot of spots. Saying baptism isn’t necessary to salvation however. That’s a lie
@mo2874
@mo2874 2 года назад
Part 1. The ultimate thing to think about is if its important to know the difference? If God, Jesus and the Holy spirit are separate then what difference does that make to someone's life/actions? I was brought up in a specific Christian group that are largely despised. But one thing I will say is they are despised for knowing the bible well. In my mind at least they know the truth. The Israelites came out of slavery in an Egypt that was known for multiple gods. They and surrounding nations often believed in Triads of gods. In Wikipedia it states: In ancient Egypt there were many triads: the Osirian (or Abydos) triad of Osiris (husband), Isis (wife), and Horus (son), ... the Elephantine triad of Khnum (god of the source of the Nile river), Satet (the personification of the floods of the Nile river), and Anuket (the Goddess of the nile river). When the Israelites were released from Egypt it was done in a unique way. Israels God brought 10 plagues on Egypt, each one seems to have been specific to each of the Egyptian gods. As the gods of Egypt couldn't stop the plagues it showed who was more powerful. Exodus 12:12 New International Version “On that same night I will pass through Egypt and strike down every firstborn of both people and animals, and I will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. I am the LORD. Israels God proved his dominance over all the Egyptian gods to send a message worldwide - That he was the most powerful God, the only true one. 13Then the Lord said to Moses, “Get up early in the morning, confront Pharaoh and say to him, ‘This is what the Lord, the God of the Hebrews, says: Let my people go, so that they may worship me, 14or this time I will send the full force of my plagues against you and against your officials and your people, so you may know that there is no one like me in all the earth. 15For by now I could have stretched out my hand and struck you and your people with a plague that would have wiped you off the earth. 16But I have raised you up a for this very purpose, that I might show you my power and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth. The message of who the true/most powerful God was was heard loud and clear. 40 years later the Canaanites were still talking about what the Israelite God had done to Egypt. This led one woman to worshipping the true God now she could identify him. Joshua 2:10, 11 New International Version 10We have heard how the Lord dried up the water of the Red Sea a for you when you came out of Egypt, and what you did to Sihon and Og, the two kings of the Amorites east of the Jordan, whom you completely destroyed. b 11When we heard of it, our hearts melted in fear and everyone’s courage failed because of you, for the Lord your God is God in heaven above and on the earth below. The prostitute Rahab turned to the true God instead of fighting with her people against Him and was spared. Her act of hiding the Israelite spies was her way of showing faith in the true God. Joshua 6:25 New International Version 25But Joshua spared Rahab the prostitute, with her family and all who belonged to her, because she hid the men Joshua had sent as spies to Jericho-and she lives among the Israelites to this day. Hebrews 11:31 New Living Translation It was by faith that Rahab the prostitute was not destroyed with the people in her city who refused to obey God. For she had given a friendly welcome to the spies. Having come from lands of multitudes of gods it made sense for the True God to include something about this in the law to His people. Exodus 20:3 New Living Translation “You must not have any other god but me. Exodus 34:14 New Living Translation You must worship no other gods, for the LORD, whose very name is Jealous, is a God who is jealous about his relationship with you. However, not long after coming out of Egypt and before they received the law, the Israelites fell into worshipping other gods. While Moses was receiving the 10 written commandments in stone, the people made visible gods/idols. Exodus 32:1-4 New International Version 1When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, “Come, make us gods a who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.” 2Aaron answered them, “Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me.” 3So all the people took off their earrings and brought them to Aaron. 4He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf, fashioning it with a tool. Then they said, “These are your gods, b Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.” Due to the Israelites not trusting God when going to take over the land of Canaan, the majority were barred entry and had to wander in the wilderness for 40 years. Numbers 14:26-34 New International Version 26The Lord said to Moses and Aaron: 27“How long will this wicked community grumble against me? I have heard the complaints of these grumbling Israelites. 28So tell them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Lord, I will do to you the very thing I heard you say: 29In this wilderness your bodies will fall-every one of you twenty years old or more who was counted in the census and who has grumbled against me. 30Not one of you will enter the land I swore with uplifted hand to make your home, except Caleb son of Jephunneh and Joshua son of Nun. 31As for your children that you said would be taken as plunder, I will bring them in to enjoy the land you have rejected. 32But as for you, your bodies will fall in this wilderness. 33Your children will be shepherds here for forty years, suffering for your unfaithfulness, until the last of your bodies lies in the wilderness. 34For forty years-one year for each of the forty days you explored the land-you will suffer for your sins and know what it is like to have me against you.’ After the 40 year period the people were reminded of what was required to remain in God's favour. They were reminded how different their God was from any other... Deuteronomy 6:4 Amplified Bible “Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one [the only God]! Deuteronomy 6:14 New International Version 14Do not follow other gods, the gods of the peoples around you; 15for the Lord your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land. Joshua 24:15 New International Version But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD.” Throughout the early history of the nation of Israel emphasis is placed on there being only ONE true God.
@damarisltrevizo
@damarisltrevizo 5 месяцев назад
So with only one true God, this means to you that Jesus isn’t God and neither is the Holy Spirit? I’m genuinely asking, because that’s what I’ve been taught and I’m trying to be more thorough about this. Also, do you happen to rest on the Sabbath or on Sunday, and could you elaborate why either which way? 🙏
@damarisltrevizo
@damarisltrevizo 5 месяцев назад
Plus, thank you for your thoughtful comment and I appreciate the different Bible versions too.
@mo2874
@mo2874 5 месяцев назад
@@damarisltrevizo The bible is very clear on this... there is only ONE true God.... Psalms 83:18 King James Bible *That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.* Psalms 97:9 American Standard Version *For thou, Jehovah, art most high above all the earth: Thou art exalted far above all gods.* Aramaic Bible in Plain English Because *you are LORD JEHOVAH, The Highest over all the Earth and you are greatly exalted over all gods! John 17:1-5 New Living Translation The Prayer of Jesus 1After saying all these things, *Jesus looked up to heaven and said, “Father,* the hour has come. Glorify your Son so he can give glory back to you. 2For you have given him authority over everyone. He gives eternal life to each one you have given him. 3And this is the way to have eternal life- *to know you, the only true God,* and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth. 4I brought glory to you here on earth by completing the work you gave me to do. 5Now, *Father, bring me into the glory we shared before the world began.* John 20:17 New Living Translation 17“Don’t cling to me,” *Jesus said, “for I haven’t yet ascended to the Father.* But go find my brothers and tell them, *‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”* *Jesus is God's first and only direct Son* ....he is the one most like his Father Jehovah/God. All other beings/angels etc were made through Jesus... John 1:1,14 New Living Translation New Living Translation *In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God,* and the Word was God. 14So the Word became humand and made his home among us. He was full of unfailing love and faithfulness.e *And we have seen his glory, the glory of the Father’s one and only Son.* John 1:1 is purposefully mistranslated to say Jesus/the word is God. *Jesus is just like his Father so he is God-like...a spirit being in heaven.* 1 Corinthians 8:5,6 New Living Translation 5There may be so-called gods both in heaven and on earth, and some people actually worship many gods and many lords. *6But for us, There is one God, the Father, by whom all things were created,* and for whom we live. *And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created,* and through whom we live. 2 Corinthians 4:4 New Living Translation *4Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe.* They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. *They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.* Colossians 1:15 New Living Translation Christ Is Supreme *15Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.* He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,e Genesis 5:3 New Living Translation When Adam was 130 years old, *he became the father of a son who was just like him-in his very image.* He named his son Seth. New International Version *When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness,* in his own image; and he named him Seth. Jesus never claimed to be God, he always said God was his father...and he worshipped him... John 10:31-33,36 New Living Translation 31Once again the people picked up stones to kill him. *32Jesus said, “At my Father’s direction I have done many good works.* For which one are you going to stone me?” *33They replied,* “We’re stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! *You, a mere man, claim to be God.”* 36why do you call it blasphemy *when I say, ‘I am the Son of God’?* After all, *the Father set me apart and sent me into the world.* Matthew 4:10 New Living Translation “Get out of here, Satan,” *Jesus told him. “For the Scriptures say, ‘You must worship the Lord your God* and serve only him.’” God/Jehovah always said Jesus was his Son... Matthew 3:16,17 New Living Translation 16After his baptism, as Jesus came up out of the water, the heavens were openedg and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and settling on him. *17And a voice from heaven said, “This is my dearly loved Son, who brings me great joy.”*
@mo2874
@mo2874 5 месяцев назад
@@damarisltrevizo The Mosaic laws were often illustrative, helping people to understand a bigger/more profound truth to follow. The Mosiac laws were a shadow or outline, Jesus/Christianity was the detail or real thing. Despite that, there were literal/physical benefits that came from the Mosaic laws. Colossians 2:16,17 New International Version 16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or *a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.* To demonstrate it was part of the Mosaic law exclusively, did anyone follow a Sabbath before the laws of Moses? The first mention is in the law. The Israelites had been in slavery for 400 years, the Egyptians would never have allowed them to take a day off. *The Sabbath started when the Israelites were released...* Exodus 7:31 New Living Translation “You have six days each week for your ordinary work, *but on the seventh day you must stop working,* even during the seasons of plowing and harvest. Exodus 20:1,8-11 New Living Translation *Ten Commandments* for the Covenant Community 1Then God gave the people all these instructionsa: *8“Remember to observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9You have six days each week for your ordinary work, 10but the seventh day is a Sabbath day of rest dedicated to the LORD your God.* On that day no one in your household may do any work. This includes you, your sons and daughters, your male and female servants, your livestock, and any foreigners living among you. *11For in six days the LORD made the heavens, the earth, the sea, and everything in them; but on the seventh day he rested. That is why the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and set it apart as holy.* As shown above the weekly Sabbath was a mini version of God's own rest period...after creating he stopped for a period of time. Genesis 2:3 New International Version 3Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, *because on it he rested from all the work of creating* that he had done. The Sabbath ultimately relates to Jesus at a particular time period in the future... Matthew 12:8 New Living Translation *For the Son of Man is Lord, even over the Sabbath!”* The bible shows Jesus renews/regenerates/restores the earth and all on it back to perfection. Once everything is perfect he hands mankind back over to his Father, God. So Jesus is in charge of sorting out the rebellion/insurrection Satan, Adam and Eve started. Matthew 19:28 Amplified Bible Jesus said to them, “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, *in the renewal [that is, the Messianic restoration and regeneration of all things] when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne,* you [who have followed Me, becoming My disciples] will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 New Living Translation *24After that the end will come, when he will turn the Kingdom over to God the Father, having destroyed every ruler and authority and power. 25For Christ must reign until he humbles all his enemies beneath his feet. 26And the last enemy to be destroyed is death.* 27For the Scriptures say, “God has put all things under his authority.”e (Of course, when it says “all things are under his authority,” that does not include God himself, who gave Christ his authority.) *28Then, when all things are under his authority, the Son will put himself under God’s authority, so that God, who gave his Son authority over all things, will be utterly supreme over everything everywhere.* Revelation 21:1,3,4 New Living Translation *1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had disappeared. And the sea was also gone.* 3I heard a loud shout from the throne, saying, “Look, God’s home is now among his people! He will live with them, and they will be his people. *God himself will be with them.a 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever.”* Paul explained to Christians that the Mosiac law was only an outline of things coming. The Mosaic law focused on works/actions to get life. *But because humans are imperfect that law ultimately condemned every person to death. Jesus was the only human that perfectly lived up to the law on earth.* He earned perfect human life. He then freely gave up that life in exchange for humanity releasing them from having to earn life through impossible works. *Humanity therefore can soon enter a Sabbath/rest where they are free from sin, sickness, pain and death...* Romans 10:3,4 New International Version 3Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. *4Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.* 5Moses writes this about the righteousness that is by the *law: “The person who does these things will live by them.”* Hebrews 4:9,10 Amplified Bible *9So there remains a [full and complete] Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10For the one who has once entered His rest has also rested from [the weariness and pain of] his [human] labors,* just as God rested from [those labors uniquely] His own.* Isaiah 14:7 New Living Translation But *finally the earth is at rest and quiet. Now it can sing again!* The situation is like owing a massive debt and working all hours of the day just to make the minimum interest payments. Then a rich friend pays the debt off with some reasonable conditions. Now you can rest, not having to work endlessly and getting nowhere... The sabbath celebration ended with Jesus ransom/payment. We no longer follow the Mosaic law with its sabbath and other requirements, we follow Jesus with his requirements. 1 Corinthians 6:20 New Living Translation *20for God bought you with a high price.* So you must honor God with your body. Romans 6:14,23 Amplified Bible 14For sin will no longer be a master over you, *since you are not under Law [as slaves], but under [unmerited] grace [as recipients of God’s favor and mercy].* 23For the wages of sin is death, *but the free gift of God [that is, His remarkable, overwhelming gift of grace to believers] is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.* **One Christian requirement is to meet together with fellow believers but that is not the same as the Sabbath..*** Hebrews 10:25 New Living Translation *25And let us not neglect our meeting together,* as some people do, but encourage one another, especially now that the day of his return is drawing near.
@adhelolo6280
@adhelolo6280 Месяц назад
Brother Mike, it is always safer to stay with the scriptures, as you have done in other subjects. 3 persons in one God? Where in the scriptures can we find this definition? Any description of God that is not found in the bible, will border on idolatry. We gotta be careful, brother.
@mountainman78629
@mountainman78629 4 месяца назад
The Bible never says we have to understand the trinity to be saved. We start out as newborn babes and we usually go from knowing nothing about the Bible or this God but it’s His job to reveal Himself to us. As a new Christian years ago I knew Gods Word was true before I ever knew what was in it. I always doubted anyone could be saved and not believe in the veracity of scripture, but again, it’s not required. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. It doesn’t say “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and understand the trinity and believe in the inerrancy of scripture to be saved.” We tend to judge others by us, us being the standard. I’ve learned I can’t convince anyone of anything, but that’s not our job. Only God can do that. Matthew 13:10 10And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. Gods Word is written in languages we are all capable of reading but unless He, God opens our eyes to its meaning, it’s not possible to understand the spiritual. That’s part of the Holy Spirits job. To teach us and remind us of what the Lord has said. I always go to Luke 24:45, 45And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures. There was 12 Apostles but only one of them was an Apostle Paul. Not every Christian believes everything identical because we don’t all start our Christian journey at age 6 on September 1 like they do in school. We are told to study to show ourselves approved unto God, but not everyone has 24 hours a day to devote to Bible study. According to Jesus in Matthew 7 more will perish on the broad road to destruction than find the narrow path that leads to life. Since we all start out spiritually dead, blind and deaf you can’t expect anyone dead, blind and deaf to understand something only a spiritually alive person can understand and even then, no two Christians are at the same point in their walk with God. If Muslims or whoever doesn’t believe the doctrine of the trinity, you’re wasting your time trying to reason with them until they are regenerated.
@leenatawfek6492
@leenatawfek6492 3 года назад
Hi Pastor Mike, i appreciate all the hard work and the studies you do to answer our questions. your videos is helping my faith to grow. my question in some churches in worship time they do invite the Holy spirit to come!!? is this biblical? doesn't the Holy spirit indwels in us the believers?
@deripfina
@deripfina 2 года назад
I guess if anyone hasn’t received the Holy Spirit and they haven’t been saved that moment may be for them? And for those who are indwelled with the Holy Spirit, maybe they mean that they want the Holy Spirit to “move” in us and help us focus on praising God in SPIRIT and truth? I think that’s how my church does it so it may be the same for you
@ahlembell8843
@ahlembell8843 2 года назад
The Trinity Doctrine is a FALSE Doctrine. The first BELIEVERS Understands who the FATHER is and who the SON is. As I understand it, The Word 'GOD' has two (2) meaning. First, is about 'DIVINE NATURE', the Second is about the 'DIVINE AUTHORITY'. Jesus is GOD in Nature, the same DIETY or DIVINITY as the FATHER, BEFORE He(Jesus) became flesh. Jesus is also 'GOD in nature' because He is the SON of GOD. It is simply said 'GOD BEGETS GOD'. like as HUMAN begets Human. The SON WAS Already BEGOTTEN BEFORE the CREATION. The FATHER is NOT the SON. Because in Book of Revelations, Jesus is in the RIGHT SIDE of the FATHER who sits on the THRONE. So ONLY the TWO of THEM has that kind of Nature. The HOLY SPIRIT is FATHER GOD HIMSELF. The HOLY SPIRIT IS "THE PRESENCE of GOD the FATHER", MANIFESTING HIS POWER over HIS CREATION. In John 17:3, Jesus talks about the "AUTHORITY" of His Father over ALL even over Him(Jesus). That is why Jesus says The FATHER is the ONLY TRUE GOD and is GREATER THAN Him(Jesus). In the Beginning of Creation, the SON(Jesus) is Co-creator of GOD the Father. That is why the Bible states "Let US make man in OUR Image". In John 5:19 Jesus says He DOES what the Father DOES because Jesus actually has the same GODLY NATURE. Jesus says HE has the GLORY as the Father before the Creation. John 5:19 NIV "Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because WHATEVER the FATHER DOES the SON ALSO DOES". If the SON can do what the FATHER GOD does, then the SON is also GOD(Godly Nature). But whenever the Bible says "GOD", it REFERS to GOD the FATHER. When reading the BIBLE, DO NOT OVERTHINK more than what the verses are just EXPLAINING, and do not make doctrines.
@theistengineer2850
@theistengineer2850 2 года назад
​@@ahlembell8843 Your view is contradicting because in the OT in Isaiah it's specified that the scripture promotes monotheistic doctrine. Heck, you can even see the ten commandments in Exodus 20, it clearly says "You shall have no other gods before me.", me is singular which means one, monotheism. So if it's a monotheistic doctrine and it's demonstrated that Jesus is also God then Jesus is God, the Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God. If in the OT and NT is specified that there's only one God but three persons are God, here we have a Triune God then, three whos and one what. There you have, serve yourself. EDIT: You may also think that this doesn't make much sense, well you're right and that's why the Trinity is still a mystery and it's much easier and simpler to be Unitarian than Trinitarian, I used to be in the same boat like you. But you know when we'll know more about it? When we meet the Lord after the rapture or after bodily death. Then our knowledge hunger will be sated. God bless you, bud.
@theepicenter4106
@theepicenter4106 2 года назад
@@ahlembell8843 im soo confused about what you believe..lol..
@Skullnaught
@Skullnaught 2 года назад
@@ahlembell8843 lay off the caps lock
@vincentawbrey8800
@vincentawbrey8800 2 года назад
Oh, Pastor Mike, you make me feel so old! You're in your 40s, I'm in my 60s. Your teaching is an inspiration, and I wish you a very Merry Christmas and a Christ-filled New Year.
@jesuschristinislam9679
@jesuschristinislam9679 2 года назад
wake UP ,..jesus christ is not GOD !
@vincentawbrey8800
@vincentawbrey8800 2 года назад
@@jesuschristinislam9679 Jesus said repeatedly that He came from Heaven. In John 3:13, Jesus said," And no man hath ascended up to Heaven, but He that came down from Heaven, even the Son of Man which is in Heaven." Jesus said also in Matthew 11::25 "All things are delivered unto Me of My Father: and no man knoweth the Son but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father save the Son and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him". I pray that the LORD will reveal Himself to you.
@jesuschristinislam9679
@jesuschristinislam9679 2 года назад
@@vincentawbrey8800 what are you trying to prove ? Are you trying to prove that jesus is god ? Or are trying to prove that jesus is son of god ? Jesus can never be GOD simply because GOD is not a man , GOD is not human being , GOD is a created thing . GOD is holy and perfect ...while jesus is not ... GOD does not require food and drink to sustain His life because GOD is the sustainer and Provider ..GOD is self sufficient master ...GOD does not go to toilet or bathroom to urinate and defecate ..while jesus did eat and drink and sleep ... That is not the quality of GOD ...wake up bro ...leave the church now ! You are being fooled by their lie and thier false manmade doctrine
@vincentawbrey8800
@vincentawbrey8800 2 года назад
@@jesuschristinislam9679 Are you trying to "win" an argument or are you even interested in Who Jesus said He is? If you don't believe what Jesus has revealed about Himself in the Bible, or if you don't believe the Bible you are not saved, period.
@jesuschristinislam9679
@jesuschristinislam9679 2 года назад
@@vincentawbrey8800 i am both to defend Jesus Christ, his teaching , his message and his identity, i know who Jesus is,.. when i stand with JESUS automatically i will win the debate ,.. BIBLE is corrupted book, if you dont know that, that mean you are leave behind ,..if i want i can show you the verse ,..! JESUS did not die on the CROSS ,. he was escaped, survived and rescued by GOD ,.. JESUS was sinless and innocent ,..JESUS was not criminal ,..SO DONT THINK and dont insist that JESUS die on the CROSS ?? How did JESUS die on the cross,..? did he die as a man or as a god ?
@adlerkaufman2777
@adlerkaufman2777 5 месяцев назад
I’m in between whether to believe the trinity. But something that is staying on on my mind. Is John 20:17 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God. '" it’s confusing why would God have a God. I’m not sure. And also in luke no bible verses said about Jesus acting like God. Why would that be if this is so important? Please answer anyone I’m very confused.
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