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The TRUTH About Deltarune ► The Kris/Chara Relationship 

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The story of Deltarune is 100% connected to Undertale and I'm going to spend 20 minutes telling you why it is. Kris and Chara are connected, just not in the way you think they are.
Edited by: Fgeitas
Written & Voiced by: Rusty
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2:50 - Comparing Deltarune & Undertale
4:50 - Kris' Family Life (Theory 1)
8:14 - The Significance of Sans/Alternate Timelines (Theory 2)
11:52 - Deltarune & The Original Prophecy
13:06 - Rusty's Original Theory!
#DeltaRune #Undertale #DeltaruneTheory #Kris #Chara #Susie #Ralsei #Asriel #Lancer #Sans #TobyFox

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@Rusty._
@Rusty._ 5 лет назад
I was already finished on the edit and then MatPat uploads his video a day before mine lol gg
@RinLockhart
@RinLockhart 5 лет назад
I didn't even notice MatPat.
@DecafInvidia
@DecafInvidia 5 лет назад
Your theory is interesting nonetheless.
@YukkiofBlades
@YukkiofBlades 5 лет назад
Check the end of the genocide ending, them check the start of Deltarune, they seem very similar, just wanted to say that
@cosmicmuse2195
@cosmicmuse2195 5 лет назад
Don't worry. MatPat will probably just spew dribble as usual.
@asukalove3476
@asukalove3476 5 лет назад
Holy shit did you notice how the sword from the story of the monster and human war looks familiar
@chase_h.01
@chase_h.01 4 года назад
You'll notice how every single familiar character has a different looks except for Sans, who is exactly identical. And I refuse to believe that's unintentional.
@decidueyefan3844
@decidueyefan3844 4 года назад
Maybe it’s just bc sans was too lazy to put on a new outfit in this timeline
@user-ve1nm3tk2k
@user-ve1nm3tk2k 4 года назад
because this timeline, "Deltarune" is a fake universe/timeline, and sans can hop through universes. Gaster wants you to feel his pain of knowing that you and everyone and everything is not real.
@jackson.624
@jackson.624 4 года назад
He’s the only one that wears normal clothes to begin with lol like imagine Undyne with her armor in the deltarune timeline
@anxivty
@anxivty 4 года назад
sans universal 🗿
@gamerboyplayz4282
@gamerboyplayz4282 4 года назад
Considering that Sans can hop through timelines, maybe he hopped into Chara's world/timeline to destroy her, as he didn't die from the 9999999 attack by chara in the genocide route, becaus eof her killing his bro and everyone, that could have made im angry. the weird colured light coming from inside the room where something brightly coloured is coming out, could show that Sans is hopping through timelines, and is the place wher ehe does. Considering Sans says that he is ''New to the Town'' could suggest he has traveled from the world where chara destroyed to this deltarune's world
@HighKingOfSkyrim37
@HighKingOfSkyrim37 4 года назад
I named my character in Undertale Kris so you could imagine my surprise when the character you play as is called Kris in Deltarune.
@Kris-tm7nq
@Kris-tm7nq 4 года назад
same lmao
@rizzack7256
@rizzack7256 4 года назад
When you name it "Chara" the game say is "True Name" Right? I never play Undertale Edit: Sorry if my English is Bad
@mrs.chrispark4907
@mrs.chrispark4907 4 года назад
Actually before seeing the let's play I thought that it was just taking your name from the computer 😂😂 (Kris gang gang)
@lichypieruu9747
@lichypieruu9747 3 года назад
welp-
@cocoabeanz6171
@cocoabeanz6171 3 года назад
Whoever the fuck interrupted Gaster: "Your name is Kris." You: "Yeah, I know."
@sav_smil3891
@sav_smil3891 5 лет назад
Don’t forget Kris’ awareness to the player. Not only at the end where he removes his soul. But during the game play, whenever there is a cut scene between characters and their dialogue. When the scene is over Kris, looks at *you* the player. Similar to when sans tells his puns at the start of Undertale, he delivers the punchline looking at *you* the player.
@sav_smil3891
@sav_smil3891 4 года назад
Megatristan547 so?
@sav_smil3891
@sav_smil3891 4 года назад
Megatristan547 no I didn’t mean it in a rude way I just mean what was your point?
@jianjcgamingchannel204
@jianjcgamingchannel204 3 года назад
Is it just me or deltarune. Undertale Kris. Sans Susie. Gaster Ralsei. Papyrus Photos Of "THREE SMILING PEOPLE" that says "dont forget" Umm...
@sleekyissleepy
@sleekyissleepy 3 года назад
@@jianjcgamingchannel204 kris would be Gaster because the creator of wing dings is called "kris"
@sukiwah
@sukiwah 3 года назад
@Megatristan547 typical ? undertale is all about 'fourth wall breaks', its part of the story and universe . i don't think we can write off any meta thing toby fox does as 'just an easter egg' or anything of the sort
@nadettemalejana6851
@nadettemalejana6851 4 года назад
Deltarune in a nutshell: *Choice.exe has been deleted.*
@enonymous0.047
@enonymous0.047 4 года назад
Lool
@cinniebun5464
@cinniebun5464 4 года назад
stolen comment from deltarune in a nutshell-
@Violetgalaxyshimmer33
@Violetgalaxyshimmer33 3 года назад
Monika: let’s see what else we can delete
@vimic3
@vimic3 3 года назад
Nutdealer dealing "Nut shells"
@popepiusxv
@popepiusxv 3 года назад
s i n c e w h e n w h e r e y o u t h e o n e i n c o n t r o l l ?
@johnmaquis6272
@johnmaquis6272 5 лет назад
Mom said it's my turn to be in control
@ultimatepronoob7320
@ultimatepronoob7320 5 лет назад
Lol
@honeygod769
@honeygod769 5 лет назад
*WHEEZE*
@popi5476
@popi5476 5 лет назад
you had your turn in the last gameeee
@notmickeymouse755
@notmickeymouse755 5 лет назад
Asriel in the background: WhY dOnT I GeT a TrY
@dimityrlefterov4877
@dimityrlefterov4877 5 лет назад
Since WHEN WERE YOU THE ONE IN CONTROL!?
@31-2-5
@31-2-5 5 лет назад
You say that chara is the bad guy But who pressed the fight button
@alemoncitrus8285
@alemoncitrus8285 5 лет назад
this should be the top comment
@travisshaffer6623
@travisshaffer6623 5 лет назад
And who does Chara represent uhh if I remember we name the Fallen Child which is Chara and if we give them are name they are us! So they are us no matter what!
@travisshaffer6623
@travisshaffer6623 5 лет назад
@@alemoncitrus8285 No it shouldn't! Chara is evil on Geno but doesn't come back at all on Neutral or Pacifist! Because they don't get enough power to come back from the dead! Plus are us so yeah!
@31-2-5
@31-2-5 5 лет назад
@@travisshaffer6623 they faced us talked to us the player at the end of the genocide route. Im pretty sure that makes them a separate entity. Also the say to our faces that we were the ones who killed everybody in that scene.
@felizpcitelgonza3208
@felizpcitelgonza3208 5 лет назад
idiot 312 I don't see how geno Chara is involved, they're telling us that the killing run is the canon one but remember that Toby added that ut ende how you left and that it will remain "untouched" so this must be a different Chara of a kind, or Kris is the altered version of Chara in this game. That can make sense on it's own
@lexi.bstewart4800
@lexi.bstewart4800 4 года назад
Did anybody notice the bedroom when you wake up has darkness on kris' side and light on asriel side
@burncore55
@burncore55 4 года назад
And you notice that his brother has more recognition than krist?
@pachipachimari
@pachipachimari 4 года назад
@@burncore55 And you noticed you accidently spelled ''krist''?
@burncore55
@burncore55 4 года назад
@@pachipachimari yeah I think I was asleep
@cloudyaxolotls
@cloudyaxolotls 4 года назад
@@burncore55 Wait you can sleep type?
@burncore55
@burncore55 4 года назад
@@cloudyaxolotls I am confused now
@galloviking4766
@galloviking4766 4 года назад
Toby: "It's unrelated to Undertale" Also Toby: "You must have played Undertale first!"
@FriskyFlakes
@FriskyFlakes 4 года назад
for a reason
@sanstheskeleton3047
@sanstheskeleton3047 4 года назад
Well that's kinda for a real reason and that is because most of original undertale characters names haven't been called in deltarune as like players would already know their names so there's no need to mention it all again and that's the most obvious reason maybe other hidden reasons
@sarcasticastronaut8098
@sarcasticastronaut8098 4 года назад
Toby: is not related to Undertale. Also Toby: LOOK! WE HAVE SANS AND TORIEL AND ASGORE! AND UNDYNE IS A COP NOW! AND ALPHYS IS A TEACHEEEEEER! AND ASRIEL IS ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!! AND LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT GASTER!
@petrmatko6628
@petrmatko6628 4 года назад
@@sarcasticastronaut8098 by that he probably meant, it isn't a prequel or a sequel, but more of a pararel world, he probably just didn't want people to think this something after pacifist ending or something
@krisalena6204
@krisalena6204 4 года назад
true
@ApexGale
@ApexGale 5 лет назад
The ending song also suggests that Kris is struggling. "When the light is running low, and the shadows start to grow, and the places that you know feel like fantasy. There's a light inside your soul that's still shining in the cold, with the truth. The promise in our hearts. Don't forget: I'm with you in the dark." It's pretty clear what this is. If the "light" represents Kris's positivity, then it's being overtaken by brooding emotions. Parents are split up and mom hates dad, brother who was Kris's closest friend is now gone, he is treated like an outcast by a majority of the class and will never be the same as them physically. The storage closet literally feels like fantasy to Kris even though he's gone to that school for presumably a long time. Kris's hope is still there, but it's in the cold. He needs someone to reach out and rekindle that hope. It could be that Asriel literally is with Kris in the dark somehow. Let's not forget that these characters did have magic in Undertale. If we assume that they still can use it here, then it's possible that Asriel is attempting to project fun adventures with friends into Kris's mind, so that Kris won't feel so alone.
@brillans2752
@brillans2752 4 года назад
We are taking about Toby it is gonna be a lot more complicated than that trust me just look at all the secrets in undertale so yeah
@razziechkn
@razziechkn 4 года назад
Holy shit my mind is getting twisted from this comment
@Lucifer_Devilsluck
@Lucifer_Devilsluck 3 года назад
Give this man a like
@partitionhlep
@partitionhlep 3 года назад
@@razziechkn me too lol
@melonlord4606
@melonlord4606 3 года назад
"And the places that you know seem like fantasy..." Aka the world of "Deltarune" is not real and is a safe spot for Kris and their grief, sort of like their Headspace like in Omori.
@theinvestigator6146
@theinvestigator6146 5 лет назад
Sans said "I'm new in town" The Snowdin Shopkeeper claimed Sans and Papyrus "appeared out of nowhere and inserted themselves" HMMMM RELATIONS MAYBE?
@CyanideOwl
@CyanideOwl 4 года назад
I guess sans just takes his house along with his brother and teleports wherever the trouble is? The question is, is he trying to run away from bad or is he trying to chase it and destroy it or something.
@jaydon.2833
@jaydon.2833 4 года назад
Sans is a portion of gaster, and gaster's experminent was timeline travel. Deltarune is a different timeline, so thats why they are the same.
@invisibleghost3820
@invisibleghost3820 4 года назад
“Excuse me, I am skinless, I’m sans, I have puns, and I’m new in town.”
@victorvaz3693
@victorvaz3693 4 года назад
Or they (Sans, Papyrus and even Gaster) are like guardians, or neutral fighters, of a dimension where the two gods (the Dark - Chara - and the Light - Asriel) fights with each other in order to keep the balance of the multiverse, infinitely changing universes as they leave nothing behind for them after the great conflict. As they choose a side, being with the Light like in Undertale or the Dark in a future chapter of the Deltarune or something, they travel as well as maybe other monsters or humans can do too. Or maybe they're just a bit of comedy to distract us, the spectators of this great story. However, still the best duo...
@marikodo
@marikodo 4 года назад
@@victorvaz3693 if gaster is a guardian why is he always related to the number 666? WHAT if sans is actually following gaster through timelines for an yet unknown reason??? Just a little thing at the bunker im not sure what exactly but if u make 1 of the settings 666 its the exact perfect gaster sound the higher u put the setting (till 666) the more it sounds like the gaster sound
@Kamikazeman1234
@Kamikazeman1234 4 года назад
I think "Kris" is the character whose body the player posesses during the events of the game. All the characters note that you are acting strangely, because Kris isn't acting the way he usually does. That's because we, as the player, are acting the way we ourselves would but in the body of Kris. Before we start the game, the vessel we create and name is supposedly intended for us to inhabit, however we are instead forced into Kris's body. You can even see before saving for the first time that there's a pre-existing save labelled "Kris" that is overwritten by the *player's name*, not the vessel's. Not only that, but this doesn't seem like the first time that Kris's body has been posessed, as that bird cage seems to have seen some use already. Kris himself is trying to break out the whole time. You can tell they're conscious and aware of what is happening during the events of the game when their body has an involuntary reaction to emotion- such as when drinking the hot chocolate and having their throat tighten. He finally manages to force his body to move while we watch, unable to wrest back control. That's because we, as the primary control of their brain, are unable to act at all due to the brain's tendency to shut off our nerves while we sleep. Or something like that. Anyway, Kris breaks free and as a special prank to us, he brandishes a knife menacingly, knowing that the souls that posess him usually dont want him to commit murder. Maybe. Kris does enjoy a good morbid jape or two, after all.
@aecor111
@aecor111 3 года назад
I think like this too, and making chara the bad guy doesn't just seems right to me, i don't think Kris, frisk, and chara have anything to do with each other
@alt4388
@alt4388 3 года назад
*clap* THIS
@KirstenMarie_MS3
@KirstenMarie_MS3 2 года назад
Just to elaborate, the brain doesn't shut off your peripheral neurons during sleep. There are structures called the ventral medial medulla and sublaterodorsal tegmental nucleus that work to paralyze your voluntary motor neurons via inhibiting signals that cancel out motor signals during REM sleep. It's called REM-atonia. Everything else is still functioning... muscles of the diaphragm, GI track. You can see the way this works in a person with a type of narcolepsy that comes with cataplexy. During an attack, the person is aware but has suddenly lost all muscle tone. Similar concept is at work during sleep paralysis. The reverse is REM sleep behavior disorder. That's the one at play when you hear stories about people punching or kicking their partners or even driving while asleep.
@Kamikazeman1234
@Kamikazeman1234 2 года назад
@@KirstenMarie_MS3 with all that said, what do *you* think is going on in the scene mentioned?
@lilscrilla5081
@lilscrilla5081 2 года назад
@@aecor111 They really don't... 😑
@ryaquaza3offical
@ryaquaza3offical 4 года назад
3:26 these anagrams would make some pretty fun spin off/parody games tho Except Rental Due, I play enough of that in real life
@viskaserk
@viskaserk 4 года назад
imagine *AN* *EEL* *TURD* as an AU lol
@ewoly5
@ewoly5 3 года назад
Ur Late Den
@popatochisps6712
@popatochisps6712 3 года назад
RENTAL DUE??? XDDDDD
@rainerghost
@rainerghost 3 года назад
I'm sorry but, 69th like
@sasaalien1215
@sasaalien1215 3 года назад
Nudealert
@oddbunny3653
@oddbunny3653 5 лет назад
I don't think that last scene is Kris/Chara? cleansing themselves of their humanity, I interpreted that more as them cleansing themselves from... US. We can still move the heart around inside the cage. We can't control Kris anymore. Notice how many of the monsters in town say something along the lines of "You're behaving in an unusual way today, Kris"? Being unusually talkative... checking objects in rooms instead of talking to the other people like any normal person would... checking the card in Rudy's hospital room even though Kris already signed it... greeting Sans like you are old friends even though Sans and Kris dont know each other yet. Curious, huh? Almost like Kris is posessed by someone. Hmm... Posessed... Reminds me of the way those who played the Genocide route in Undertale often liked to say they were "posessed by Chara" (even though in reality they were the ones who decided to do the Genocide route to see all the endings in the first place...) I kinda have a feeling Deltarune is going to be about Kris (Chara?) VS Us, the players. However I'm not sure how Frisk would fit into that theory... (Also notice how Kris has all the letters in Frisk except for the F?) Another detail that's worth noting (though everyone is probably already aware of it by now xD) is that Deltarune goes way back. Tobyfox already at least thought about the story of Deltarune before Undertale even came out, afaik, which is why we can find all these clues referencing Deltarune in Undertale. For example Suzie is referenced in Undertale by a npc... and then there's Sans' workshop with the photo... God, it's all so mysterious!
@PBMusiko
@PBMusiko 5 лет назад
I've been thinking the same thing as well. On top of all that, whenever you save for the first time, Kris' save is already there and you overwrite it with the name you chose that was "discarded" in the intro. And the first save description is strange too, whenever it says that it is "a light only you can see", it sounds like it's talking about the player.
@Simcha17
@Simcha17 5 лет назад
I feel like-- Instead of frisk, I think our created character will come to play as our new vessel?
@FushiguroMegumi79
@FushiguroMegumi79 5 лет назад
@@PBMusiko has anyone tried loading that save file?
@Bitbotgaming
@Bitbotgaming 5 лет назад
@@Simcha17 holy shit that makes so much sense I feel like Toby won't add something just to have it there ya know?
@PBMusiko
@PBMusiko 5 лет назад
@@FushiguroMegumi79 I'm not aware if someone has or if it's even possible, although I believe if you start a new game after already playing the game, instead of it being Kris' file, it will actually be empty (that may be significant in some way, but not entirely sure since it could most likely be because you're just using one of the empty save files). Kris' file is only there when you play the game for the first time, and the first time you play, you are just automatically thrown into the character creation intro.
@Thegamerkid-yh5nk
@Thegamerkid-yh5nk 5 лет назад
My favorite line "sans seems to have a natural popping up in timelines whenever shits about to go wrong
@the_guy06
@the_guy06 4 года назад
Asgore actually hugging a human is wholesome
@sleekyissleepy
@sleekyissleepy 3 года назад
Chara?
@gokublackmasteredultrainst7663
@gokublackmasteredultrainst7663 4 года назад
“Three smiling faces of people you don’t recognize” “Don’t forget”.Does that mean we just saw the squad in deltarune?
@deadlyadder2330
@deadlyadder2330 4 года назад
who would the third person be???
@Norrabal
@Norrabal 4 года назад
@@deadlyadder2330 kris Susie and ralsei
@popatochisps6712
@popatochisps6712 3 года назад
Holy hecc- We got the gaang
@sasaalien1215
@sasaalien1215 3 года назад
OMG TRUE WHAT IF THAT WAS a HINT TO FELTARUNDX
@darth-krokus
@darth-krokus 3 года назад
@@sasaalien1215 ah yes my favourite game, feltarundx
@toecramps
@toecramps 5 лет назад
They were to lazy to change Sans look Just like Sans
@koimeme
@koimeme 4 года назад
Oh fuck
@mparagames
@mparagames 4 года назад
Toby isn't lazy tho
@mparagames
@mparagames 4 года назад
@Hat coming Off But not when he actually wants to stop you; though.
@airstrikegaming8263
@airstrikegaming8263 5 лет назад
Kris wasn't chara and when he got the knive he was just gonna eat some pie butterscotch pie
@juiceyphart
@juiceyphart 5 лет назад
His eye glowed red as he attacked the pie lol
@airstrikegaming8263
@airstrikegaming8263 5 лет назад
Lol
@Danny-sr5qc
@Danny-sr5qc 5 лет назад
At the end of Undertale (in a pacifist route after a geno route) Chara/Frisk’s eyes glow red too and there was a pie in the room so theory confirmed. Chara/Kris isn’t evil they just want pie lmao.
@perilmania
@perilmania 5 лет назад
he just really wanted that pie
@corinth9140
@corinth9140 5 лет назад
Imagine deltarune's final ending was just Kris finally eating that pie and going back to sleep again after killing everyone for the pie
@sussy3778
@sussy3778 4 года назад
One thing worth to mention is that the Dark World was likely real, well... sorta of real. I personally think that The Dark World is not only a product of Kris imagination but also his soul. Human souls in the Undertale universe are shown to be extremely powerful, able to manipulate even reality itself, the Dark World likely already existed on Kris head, but his Soul brought it to reality once he and Susie entered the closet.
@andurasu1204
@andurasu1204 4 года назад
Woah ok ok, i thing i agree. Nice job :0
@darckap2785
@darckap2785 5 лет назад
Chara at the end of the genocide route: "Let's move on from this pointless world, and *move on to the next."* FINALLY! I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THIS!!!!
@saylorskidds9538
@saylorskidds9538 4 года назад
U aren’t
@gokublackmasteredultrainst7663
@gokublackmasteredultrainst7663 4 года назад
Darc Kap27 Genocide path is the one that probably does not happen.People say pacifist is the one that happens...(not what I believe tho.)
@charadreemurr5121
@charadreemurr5121 4 года назад
Dude lemme send ya this
@azaclex7765
@azaclex7765 4 года назад
This is confusing I just don’t know, the internet says Deltarune isn’t a prequel or a sequel and doesn’t affect undertales story. But your theory makes so much sense
@axola6110
@axola6110 4 года назад
@@gokublackmasteredultrainst7663 I think Pacifist does actually happen because Chara wants that timeline to be the real one. She (He? Them idk I'm calling her she) deletes the Genocide route because you made her kill everyone and made her think that killing is ok the more you fill her with LOVE (level of violence) so she tells you to delete the world because it's useless, everything is gone, so she brings it back with everyone's memory being erased, and she let's you have a chance with the Pacifist route, if you do she let's you have that happy life, but she never let's you forget about what you did to everyone and her
@melledevries4685
@melledevries4685 5 лет назад
If I'm not mistaken, Deltarune Chapter 1 was more of a demo than anything else, I don't think the surprise ending was much more than just Toby giving the fans something to speculate about. I wouldn't be surprised if that's really all there is to it. Even if not, I think the soul that the human rips out of their body represents us players. We did after all create a 'vessel' (a container) at the beginning of the game, only for the game to throw it out and give us this human instead. On top of that, you can actually (meekly) move around as the caged soul at the end, suggesting that, when separated, we are in control of the soul, but not the human. On top of that, there are several lines of dialogue from Kris' friends and family that suggest Kris is acting differently today from normal. I think looking at all of that together, it seems that the player, as a soul, was just thrust into an unwilling human's body for the length of one playthrough. That's just my idea, though. It doesn't account for why the cage is notably worn out, as if this is something that happens often.
@Felsmukk
@Felsmukk 5 лет назад
No one noticed that there was no Ralsie doll or card or anything in the classroom?
@bro748
@bro748 5 лет назад
Good point.
@bongoralsei1757
@bongoralsei1757 5 лет назад
Wait so how do I exist?
@Felsmukk
@Felsmukk 5 лет назад
@@bongoralsei1757 That is a very good question
@bongoralsei1757
@bongoralsei1757 5 лет назад
*Starts to think*
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 5 лет назад
*big think*
@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185
@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 4 года назад
2:56 Sans is so lazy he doesn't even look slightly different in another rearrange dimension,his lazyness knows no bounds.
@nyanveshika1152
@nyanveshika1152 5 лет назад
"Enjoy your nightmare fuel." *Ad comes* Rusty you knew me well U____U
@amalgamitations
@amalgamitations 4 года назад
That actually happened to me as well ;^;
@popatochisps6712
@popatochisps6712 3 года назад
Lol. Same. I hated my ad.
@wushifieldo
@wushifieldo 3 года назад
Same y’all my ad was so bad Imma commit die because of it
@amayaaguilar2607
@amayaaguilar2607 3 года назад
Same
@jamesabrams3715
@jamesabrams3715 2 года назад
@@amalgamitations vc
@DylanDekk
@DylanDekk 5 лет назад
There is absolutely no way that the "Dark World = Just Make Believe" theory can hold water. The relationship between Kris and Susie starts out with her having a ten-foot thick personal shield under the guise of being a tough aloof bully. The chances of the bully sitting down with the weird kid she picks on and playing pretend with some cards and chess pieces are slim to none. It's only through the adventure itself, the shared experience of personal growth, that she lets herself soften enough to bond with Kris. Without such a bond, there's absolutely zero chance she'd indulge in childish make-believe play with a near-stranger she threatened to eat the face of just minutes prior. Just wouldn't happen.
@alauramercereau4360
@alauramercereau4360 5 лет назад
That is actually something that I thought about when I first heard this theory. I mean, I muself love a good RP, but this is pretty ridiculous. I mean, she was about to frickin EAT HIS FACE! And Susie just decides to sit down and go to some imaginary world with Lunch?
@halkon4412
@halkon4412 4 года назад
You're not really getting Susie's character if this is the problem you have with the theory. She's a societal outcast, just like Kris, and as such probably also plays make believe in her spare time, even if she would never let that on at first. Let's look at her actions and character arc in the Dark World: she begins by resisting the roleplay scenario, and continuously threatening to leave. Now obviously, she could have just left whenever she wanted to, so this behavior is nothing more than a front she's putting on - a way to defensively disassociate with her childish escapist tendencies, in favor of wearing her mean girl bully persona that she uses to cope with life. This part of her character should be pretty obvious even if you take the Dark World events at face value, as she does things like willingly joining the party but then being too cool to walk too close to Kris and Ralsei. In reality, she hates the real world. Why would she want to leave the imaginary world when her home and school life are miserable? Her disdain towards society manifested as the King, who even repeats some of the lines she used against Kris at the beginning of the game. The King's hatred of the Lightners for abandoning the Darkners is parallel to Susie's societal angst towards the world that neglects her. I mean, she shows up late to class due to what's implied to be an unstable home life, and how does Alphys respond? By immediately trying to get rid of her and the other troublesome kid for a few more minutes when she could easily have gone and gotten the chalk herself. No wonder Susie feels so abandoned when this is the way authority figures treat her in the real world.
@derekmeade1741
@derekmeade1741 4 года назад
Ori Halcon Exactly
@GentleMu
@GentleMu 4 года назад
Toby never said the games have "absolutely nothing to do with each other." He was pretty particular with his wording, and was simply saying our Undertale saves are safe from Deltarune. Great vid and theory, though! I've been thinking much the same, and I'm glad to see it spread. :p
@veirax8971
@veirax8971 5 лет назад
Game: Asgore RU-vid Subtitles: ozgur Game:Sans RU-vid Subtitles: sands/sanz's Game: Asriel RU-vid Subtitles: Azrael Game:Chara RU-vid Subtitles: Cara Game: Kris RU-vid Subtitles: Chris Game: Ralsei RU-vid Subtitles: Rossi *facepalm*
@nrdy8221
@nrdy8221 4 года назад
its not like these names are in a dictionary or something, which is what the youtube subtitles use to identify words
@EythanLee
@EythanLee 4 года назад
Look at the kris one.. combine kris with chara. CHris
@AlmightyAMV2004
@AlmightyAMV2004 4 года назад
Hotel?: trivago
@ClypssiusStar
@ClypssiusStar 5 лет назад
Everyone has a story and sans....is just sans
@Imaginehavingausernamelol
@Imaginehavingausernamelol 5 лет назад
I Want To Die well, he is the son of gaster...
@alauramercereau4360
@alauramercereau4360 5 лет назад
Sans is his own story.
@JesusChrist-fq5ij
@JesusChrist-fq5ij 5 лет назад
well, yeah.
@TotallyTally
@TotallyTally 5 лет назад
Hmmmmm... What did Toby Fox do with wordplay? (INSIDE MY MIND) Am I Unrelated? Am I Ruled Neat? Do I have a Rental Due? Am I an Elder Aunt? Am I Unreal Ted? Do I have an Ultra Need? Am I a Neuter Lad? Do I have a Daunter Reel? Do I have a Tuna Elder? Did Andre Let U? Can I poop an *EEL TURD?!??!?* *R U A NERDLET?!?!?!??!?!?*
@urspeciesfeces1823
@urspeciesfeces1823 5 лет назад
*_AM I A NUT DEALER??_*
@Winterbug068
@Winterbug068 5 лет назад
ARE U LATE NERD?
@Weg002
@Weg002 5 лет назад
NUDE ALERT
@DocSlayingyoudown
@DocSlayingyoudown 5 лет назад
Ur species Feces WHO IS THE THE *NUT DEALER*
@rubenk.7150
@rubenk.7150 5 лет назад
R U A NERDLET has two r's
@jasonz.7311
@jasonz.7311 4 года назад
"The primary negative influence of Undertale" Everyone: Well yes but actually no.
@kxngrxse1562
@kxngrxse1562 4 года назад
Deltarune: *exists* Choice: *aight imma head out*
@Volhain
@Volhain 5 лет назад
My theory, though an uncommon one, is that we're the dark breaking the balance of light. The reason why we're not the one in control in DeltaRune is because it's not *_our_* story. When our choice is first shown to not matter, our soul is thrust into the body of Kris, thus taking over. At the end, Kris responds to this by taking advantage of the lack of control players normally have in cutscenes within game as a whole.
@Zetarla
@Zetarla 5 лет назад
oh! cool theory i like it! this definitley makes me think
@mikeykitty1235
@mikeykitty1235 5 лет назад
So, this theory is just "We are bad guys all along!" Yeah, never heard that bullshit before. Sorry, but that has been done before, making our main characters the villains. It makes me not want to play the game anymore, since I'M the BAD GUY, for playing a video game.
@keripik6728
@keripik6728 5 лет назад
@@mikeykitty1235 but its kind of fun btw. How bad we can get to the character we controlled.
@mikeykitty1235
@mikeykitty1235 5 лет назад
@@keripik6728 That's fucked up. I play video games to escape reality, not for the game to tell me how horrible person I am, for playing a video game.
@cuckulous3040
@cuckulous3040 5 лет назад
@@mikeykitty1235 salt
@shadowhunterplays6504
@shadowhunterplays6504 5 лет назад
good theory, however my only prob is that raslei can still be the prince from the dark. He states that he is a prince. Now lancers is the prince you're saying, but remember there were 4 kings before all the problems started in the dark world. I don't think this is 100% confirmed but it is possible that ralsei is the prince of hearts as he has a heart on his cloak thing. This could make sense as we have lancer: spade prince, clover: club princess? (They do live in the castle with lancer so possible), ralsei: heart prince. Sadly we never saw a possible canadint for diamonds so that's hurdle to get over.
@TheRapist69420
@TheRapist69420 5 лет назад
Nope after you return to Lancer you can see the 3 kings trapped in a cage
@JumbaFan
@JumbaFan 5 лет назад
@@TheRapist69420 Yeah. I'm pretty sure that if one of them was Ralsei's father, he would have acknowledged his son as soon as he saw him.
@KawaiiCutieBear
@KawaiiCutieBear 5 лет назад
I agree, I have written in reddit:'s deltarune theories that Ralsei most probably is the prince of the heart kingdom or not actually a prince at all... And that Kris and Susie are also part of the heart kingdom due to their symbols on the clothing and how Lancer says that we have a collective dad, which to him is that dad=king sooo yeah
@BlackpearlPoorly
@BlackpearlPoorly 5 лет назад
i thought the jewel king guy would be the king of diamonds
@shadowhunterplays6504
@shadowhunterplays6504 5 лет назад
@jumbafan that's hurdle although it could be possible he didn't recognize him, we don't know if ralsei always where's his cloak
@mocharay587
@mocharay587 4 года назад
I still don’t get why Chris likes scream in his room at 3am, I can hear him from my cardboard box.
@Lucifer_Devilsluck
@Lucifer_Devilsluck 3 года назад
Kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris kris U said Chris.
@Mine_that_is_filled_with_salt
@Mine_that_is_filled_with_salt 3 года назад
Snake?!
@gamerboygaming
@gamerboygaming 5 лет назад
Toby fox: Makes a game Community: OMGITCONNECTSSANSUNDERTALETOSANSDELTARUNE!!111!!!!! Toby fox: Ah sh*t, here we go again.
@sethsworld4051
@sethsworld4051 4 года назад
yeah sans never gets old... NEVER
@chem3615
@chem3615 4 года назад
Translate: Omg It connects sans undertale to sans deltarune
@gamerboygaming
@gamerboygaming 4 года назад
Chem Gaming Connects*
@chem3615
@chem3615 4 года назад
@@gamerboygaming fixed lol double early
@DeltaBlazin
@DeltaBlazin 5 лет назад
I honestly don't believe that Kris is Chara, that seems far too clear and obvious to me. I believe that Kris has problems himself, or some sort of split personality.
@DeltaBlazin
@DeltaBlazin 5 лет назад
It just seems too easy to just say "Ohhh Kris is Chara; question answered." What I think is that Toby wants everyone to THINK Kris is Chara.
@Arrakiz666
@Arrakiz666 5 лет назад
@@DeltaBlazin THANK you. That was my reaction too.
@angeliccreeper1486
@angeliccreeper1486 5 лет назад
I had a theory that Frisk and Chara were somehow born from Kris’s split personality.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 5 лет назад
Actually Kris snaps in two. Just kidding
@teraspeXt
@teraspeXt 4 года назад
@Yee Memes Yeah, at a plane site..?
@lazinmantist7110
@lazinmantist7110 5 лет назад
Deltarune heavily reminded me of Wonderland. Right down to many of the enemies being playing cards
@Lilyium
@Lilyium 5 лет назад
Seam as the Cheshire cat...
@123Mathzak
@123Mathzak 4 года назад
“Let’s move on from this pointless world, and onto the next” - Chara at the end of Undertale’s Genocide Run Maybe this world is the next.
@andurasu1204
@andurasu1204 4 года назад
He already said it, dummy.
@Lucifer_Devilsluck
@Lucifer_Devilsluck 3 года назад
Chaos, CHAOS!
@divinemotion2738
@divinemotion2738 3 года назад
@@andurasu1204 No need to be a dick, dude.
@rich_gamer0667
@rich_gamer0667 3 года назад
Well that could make sense if you try to kill everyone they run away and you fail... And if you do a pacifist you fail.... So that will explain the only one ending
@midoriyakang4503
@midoriyakang4503 4 года назад
9:09 Did anyone notice the wink when he said they had never met?
@Miunim
@Miunim 4 года назад
Lmao that's what that whole section of the video was about
@Chronorust
@Chronorust 4 года назад
In my mind, the argument of the Darkners being abandoned and this "Knight" giving new purpose is a way of this Knight manipulating their misunderstanding. In reality, we can't play with toys forever. Our needs are more dire, and we must ultimately care for ourselves (in this case, implying that the Lightner world is the games real world directly) To trade off reality for imagination is to disregard natural structure. A disregard that could well "crack the earth". The imagination is fleeting and cannot be tended to forever. The truth is that the world's of reality and fiction are that of the relationship of a gun and holster. One can live without the other.
@CozyRogers
@CozyRogers 5 лет назад
My theory is that "You" are not "Kris"... There are three parties at play in a single body here - First is "Kris", the red soul and original owner of the body. Second is "You", the player. Third is "Chara", the evil entity that talks to "You" in the intro. "You" and "Chara" are somehow working in conjunction to possess Kris' body. This would explain why other characters in the over-world keep mentioning how you're acting differently than usual. For example, in the hospital the receptionist notes that you're not playing the piano as well as you normally can. That's because it's "Kris" who knows how to play the piano, not "You". Sans has some ridiculous level of perceptiveness, so he's probably the only one who suspects he's speaking directly to "You", instead of "Kris". Going into super-duper stretch mode: "Kris" is just an anagram of"Frisk" without the F (Freedom). And what about those seven colored flowers in Asgor's shop? He mentions that they're hard to keep alive in this 'climate'... what do we know about the climate? That it lacks 'freedom', aka 'determination'. They may be flowers from a place that had 'determination'... maybe even the world of Undertale. PS: Why was Susie so shocked when Ralsei revealed his face? Maybe because Susie is actually Asriel? She has a snout ala Asriel and keeps her hair down over her face. Asriel is also conveniently missing from town and we don't know where Susie lives. Fun to consider, at least.
@CozyRogers
@CozyRogers 5 лет назад
@flarringbanndit I'm actually sort of sold on the "climate" bit. I don't think Toby just threw those flowers in there as some kind of minor cameo, so I suspect they'll be significant in the future... probably having to do with restoring determination to the world. Susie being Asriel is just sort of a random thought, haha. She has some strange, unexplained respect for Toriel, is suspiciously surprised when she finds out that Ralsei looks like Asriel, has dat snout, hides her face, is one of the two characters in the prophesy next the human (the look-alike humans always having had a close relationship with Asriel in Undertale) and we don't know where she lives... or really anything about her at all. If she's not literally Asriel in disguise, then I at least suspect she has a much deeper connection to Kris' family than we're aware of.
@Danny-sr5qc
@Danny-sr5qc 5 лет назад
This actually makes a lot of sense especially because that’s exactly what happened in undertale. Frisk is a vessel for the player and Chara rides along, eventually kicking the player out and controlling Frisk. Just like how “Kris” kicked the player out at the end. I suspect that was Chara who kicked you out while Kris is an innocent bystander.
@perilmania
@perilmania 5 лет назад
I don't think Susie and Asriel are connected, at least not in that way.
@Arrakiz666
@Arrakiz666 5 лет назад
I don't know why you think there's 3 distinct entities at play here, I only count two: YOU the player and Kris. There's very little to suggest that the one who rips the soul out at the end is anybody else than Kris themselves.
@xristoforoskarapiperakis7977
@xristoforoskarapiperakis7977 5 лет назад
Ey mate just think... Is it really Chara.? Its obv faster working with you. And Kris rips the soul bacically you the player and takes control of the body
@alexanderjace7972
@alexanderjace7972 5 лет назад
"Your decisions don't matter.." Sometimes when either Susie or a character gives you a choice and than cuts off and you don't get to choose? We are not controlling Kris apparently..and I guess Chara and frisk moved onto the next? But remember the relation of the two so called Tales. The magical closet land and magical under land! If you speed up another HIM you hear darker yet darker a bit. So gaster is apart of this game in multiple ways! So..yeah..in chapter 2 we'll find out!
@rjpgalaxy786
@rjpgalaxy786 5 лет назад
But.... *_WHO IS SINGING THE CREDITS THEME?_* My Theory: _When the light is running low, and the shadows start to grow_ = darker yet darker/entry no.17 *GASP*
@isaiahthecoelacanth8577
@isaiahthecoelacanth8577 4 года назад
Plot twist Gaster sang it
@luniwis-chan443
@luniwis-chan443 3 года назад
But Gaster speaks in Windings...
@popatochisps6712
@popatochisps6712 3 года назад
Wait, doesn’t sans know wingdings? And if Gaster made the song... Sans is singing it???
@rich_gamer0667
@rich_gamer0667 3 года назад
@@popatochisps6712 i think that gaster is in control of the darkness monster and make Ralsei sing
@popatochisps6712
@popatochisps6712 3 года назад
@@rich_gamer0667 oh flip-
@MikiziB
@MikiziB 5 лет назад
Throughout deltarune we keep hearing about how the Dark World used to be. There were 4 kings instead of one, Darkners and Lightners lived in harmony, etc. Two events changed the Dark World into what we see in deltarune, the Lightners leaving the Darkners and the King of Spades being influenced by a Knight. We keep hearing things about a Knight being the one who told the King of Spades to overthrow the other three kings, the Knight being the one who suggested the King make another Dark Fountain, and the Knight suggested the King of Spades overthrow the Light World. Who is the Knight and why would they want to destroy the Light World? If the prophecy at the beginning of the game is to believed, upsetting the balanced of Light and Dark will cause the Earth to "take it's final breath" as well as the sky going black and the Earth breaking open. Not good for anyone involved. Chara doesn't seem to have attachment to the *world* of Undertale. Wanting to "Erase this *world* and move onto the next". If Kris is Chara like you've suggested in this video, then it makes the fact that when Kris enters the Dark World decorated in armour very interesting. If you know anything about medieval fantasy video games like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Dark Souls, etc. Knights are characterized as wearing mail armour, the same kind Kris is wearing. This makes me think Chara might be the Knight described in deltarune. deltarune's Dark World is most certainly based on medieval fantasy, with it's Kings, royal magician, jester, prince, Kingdom, castles, Knight, and Rouxls Kaard speaks very much like people from the middle ages are characterized in movies and video games. Not to mention the very Final Fantasy/Crono Trigger/Legend of Zelda inspired sound track. The game oozes elements of medieval fantasy, even the whole dungeons and dragons role playing theory fits perfectly because dungeons and dragons is medieval fantasy. I feel like too many people dismissed the events that happen in the Dark World as not important, or the Prophecy as not important. Like it's just a toy world with no bearing on the real one, but I strongly believe the Dark World is important. If Chara and Sans are in this game and they're still self aware, then Asriel might be too. Not deltarune's Asriel, Undertale's self aware, Flowey Asriel. Asriel might be working against Chara. It's also funny how the Delta Rune symbol, the circle with wings over the three triangles reminds me of Asriel and Chara. Asriel having wings when in his "God of Hyper Death" form and the three triangles kind of looking like Chara's creepy face, but that's a pretty big reach though. I believe there's a lot of important information we can gleam from our time in the Dark World. Like how we learn Ralsei acts a lot like Toriel, and can even bake cake. Ralsei's mom must have taught him how to bake or something. *EDIT: I mistakenly thought the King of Spades wanted to destroy the Light World, I double checked and he just wants to over throw the Light World. It's also not directly stated the Knight suggested the Darkners overthrow the Light World, the King of Spades may have come up with that idea on his own. In my opinion it seems likely the Knight put the idea in the King's head, though I have no actual evidence that suggests if it was the King's idea or the Knight's idea. If anyone can find something in the game that implies one of the two possibility I'd be grateful if you share it with me.
@raptorkil
@raptorkil 5 лет назад
nice interesting
@jhkjuk5411
@jhkjuk5411 4 года назад
Deep
@Chronorust
@Chronorust 4 года назад
Maybe their trying to overthrow US.
@darestep7844
@darestep7844 5 лет назад
Holy crap! This is honestly the best DeltaRune theory that I've seen on youtube! I want to add some of my own thoughts so here you go. Another popular theory is that Kris is being taking over by the player. When you first save you overrite Kris's name and on the surface characters say Kris is acting strange. Blag blah blah, now you've probably heard all this already but something you probably haven't heard actually comes from Undertale. In the second phase of Sans's fight he says "I all ways thought the anomaly was doing this because it was unhappy and when it got what it wanted it would stop all this" Well, Sans seems to think this anomaly is causing the genocide run and Chara accuses us as the player of being the cause of the genocide run so what if this anomaly and the player are one and the same?
@lauren_e_s
@lauren_e_s 5 лет назад
That is correct
@dra6o0n
@dra6o0n 5 лет назад
If you don't play Undertale, the plot in that game wouldn't exist. If you didn't play Deltarune, the plot would not have happened.
@finnsaysmeow2835
@finnsaysmeow2835 5 лет назад
4:38 “Enjoy your nightmare fuel!”? I’ve heard this so much that I LIKE this, it’s not even scary anymore. Edit: “Geenocide” TRIGGERED
@starcookinggood
@starcookinggood 4 года назад
16:49 also similar: asriel gets forgiven for everything, chara gets called a villain for nothing
@breadchips4803
@breadchips4803 5 лет назад
Egg
@Zetarla
@Zetarla 5 лет назад
and this guy's theory falls apart lol
@travisshaffer6623
@travisshaffer6623 5 лет назад
@@Zetarla Egg the true boss of all games worlds!
@mitt...
@mitt... 5 лет назад
Bread Chips gge
@cerulean22b69
@cerulean22b69 5 лет назад
fun fact: EGG in WIng Dings is hand symbols "Left, Up, Up", and what chess piece moves in this way? THE KNIGHT **X-Files theme plays** (ahem, shamelessly stolen from Camila Cuevas's twitter lol, she's the first one to figure it out)
@breadchips4803
@breadchips4803 5 лет назад
Gamers4TheWin13 THE EGG THAT DEFEATS ALMOST ALL THEORIES HERE IN RU-vid
@Polo-jw5wd
@Polo-jw5wd 5 лет назад
Chara possessed kriss through us. the "SURVEY PROGRAM" is the determination extractor
@Zetarla
@Zetarla 5 лет назад
this is very similar to my own theory, nice to see im not the only one to think this :)
@perilmania
@perilmania 5 лет назад
I remember when I first got Deltarune. The name "Survey Program" seemed really suspicious to me. I thought it was a virus at first xD
@magnolia7212
@magnolia7212 5 лет назад
At first i tought it wasnt deltarune at all
@magnolia7212
@magnolia7212 5 лет назад
@@Zetarla a
@D0NTHEMAN
@D0NTHEMAN 5 лет назад
But chara isnt from this word,how is this possible?
@jamessauve754
@jamessauve754 5 лет назад
14:45 "Bigger evil" Yes, the suicidal outcast who likes chocolate and gave their life and soul to their adoptive brother to free said brothers species, is the bigger villain in Undertale. Remember the whole abortion thing with monster and humans was never done before Chara and Asriel, so neither knew what would happen (debunking the popular "Chara tried to trick Asriel to kill all of humanity" theory). Not to mention Kris described personality before the events of deltarune are mischievous, and shy. In the true lab tapes and true pacifist expansion of the opening cutscene, these traits are re/first established. Also, 16:05 Easily? They do nothing until the player/frisk goes out of their way to get the highest level in the game? How is that easily rewriting actions? The more accurate phrase is "in the right situation, they are able to override the player's choices". Not to mention, the Chara in the genocide ending is a determination, reactivated version of their living counterpart. Who else is a reactivated version of their living self? Flowey. And we can CLEARLY see how close he is to Asriel's personality. And as a side point, though not really6 touched on in this video, I see a lot of people using the red eye's of Kris and the knife in the ending as a key point for the Kris Chara/genocide connection. Chara is never once depicted holding a knife that's actually sharp or dangerous. The only knife they canonically owned was for cutting plants. And maybe suicidal reasons based on some of Asriel's extra dialogue from his easter egg in the true pacifist ending. And the red eyes thing could be referencing the one-off really specific ending where Chara possesses(?) Frisk. I find it weird that a lot of fan art depicts Chara with a sharp knife and red glowing eyes, but that's getting off topic. Not to mention light's the good thing in deltarune. Not the bad thing like you claim. YOU KRIS are a lightner, stopping the corrupted chaos king, a DARKNER from destroying both worlds. And that soul which Chara is 'cleansing their humanity of', is controlled by the player, it can move based on your inputs, implying you control it. Implying that this entire game has been out of Kris and Chara's hands. The last third of this theory feels vastly oversimplified and somewhat hypocritical, your problem with it being a metaphor was that you couldn't get why Toby would make a story like it. But you never explain why a developer whose previous game was built on a running mechanic (the morality and exp 'counter') that allowed anyone to change for the better and even worse. So a good vs evil war story doesn't accurately Undertale or even deltatune's concept of neither being a viloent killer or pacifist is the right answer. Almost all of the video before the ~14:30 mark makes a lot of scenes and could be built into a solid theory, but the last 1/3 breaks a lot of it.
@justjason3161
@justjason3161 4 года назад
She wanted to die so Asriel could take her soul and they could be powerful and kill everyone. She is the bad guy
@jamessauve754
@jamessauve754 4 года назад
Jason Capuchino Chara’s a paradoxically written character with several contradicting lines even from themselves (Their genocide monologue starts being about how you did everything then if you choose not to destroy the world they say “since when were you in control.” But if you say yes they call you a great partner which implies you are working with them but when you reload the world they say “do you think you are above consequences” implying that it’s solely your fault, Flowey always thinks your Chara no matter what run you play, Asriel talks about them with noticeable uncertainty, sometimes they speak with borderline robotic dialog, sometimes they talk like Toriel, sometimes they remove all predicts from sentences, sometimes they talk in pure red text other times they don’t, they say they don’t have a soul which probably means the genocide run Chara functions on Flowey logic but if you replay after giving them your soul from the last one they act the same just questioning why you repeated a run, etc. Chara doesn’t even have a character (ironically enough) most of the time and there’s so much vague cryptic dialog with them that it’s hard to tell. Something had to cause them to try and kill themselves caused by humanity, and humanity is what trapped their new foster family underground as well so maybe their plan was for their perceived good of the monsters, maybe they just wanted Asriel to start a war with humanity. Doubt they wanted power for themselves because it is a canon fact no one new what would happen if a monster absorbed a human soul, and if they wanted power for themselves they could’ve just stabbed Asriel. Plus even if they were some evil master mind 12 year old, it still doesn’t make them the bigger evil the only times they are evil within the direct plot of the game are when you are the one murdering people and intentionally being the evil, you the player will always be the worst evil.
@zeo4481
@zeo4481 2 года назад
13:10 Isn't it funny how this INCREDIBLY BAD THING THAT WILL HAPPEN is actually Kris eating some pie. Amazing!
@shawermus
@shawermus 2 года назад
And opening another dark fountain forcing the world to unbalance just to have fun with susie
@inky2716
@inky2716 2 года назад
and the WHOLE PIE!? 100% worse than an incredibly bad thing
@daaknait
@daaknait 5 лет назад
People talk about Chara, but isn't it supposed to be a direct reference to the player, because in Undertale you name the Fallen Human making the character "us"? I understood that "Chara" is the dark side inside the player behind the screen, who is used to going in killing sprees in other games without a second thought. I think what "Chara" said in the genocide ending, that we should "move on to the next world" also means other video game worlds, not just alternate Undertale timelines. This has bugged me since Undertale came out when watching theory videos and reading the comments. Unless someone can tell me I'm incorrect or missing something?
@bro748
@bro748 5 лет назад
I've been thinking the same things too. Fanworks tend to depict Chara as some sort of paranormal genocidal maniac, and completely forget that they are supposed to be You.
@angeliccreeper1486
@angeliccreeper1486 5 лет назад
Well, remember that Chara has their own backstory that you didn’t create, with the Dreemurr family. You could interpret them as a representation of the player, but at the same time they also seem to be the narrator. In a way, you could say that they are a representation of the player in the game, but are also a character with their own personality, however ambiguous it may be.
@Arrakiz666
@Arrakiz666 5 лет назад
You're not. Identifying Chara as like a separate, literal entity is simply a means of shirking responsibility for the genocide run. The true villain of the genocide route is YOU the player, Toby Fox said as much himself. Your conversation with Chara at the end is akin to an inner dialogue with yourself, at least the part of you that exists in the game.
@daaknait
@daaknait 5 лет назад
@@Arrakiz666 This is exactly what I think as well, even though the "Chara" character has their own backstory, like Angelic Creeper said above.
@Arrakiz666
@Arrakiz666 5 лет назад
@@daaknait I mean... Obviously Undertale is difficult to actually analyze in a literal, narrative sense. It's much more useful to look at it symbolically. For example, depending purely on how you approach the game, Frisk either exists as their own character in a literal setting, or they just don't. The importance of the player as an agent is also greatly exaggerated in the genocide route. The best possible ending is one where the player is only an implied presence with a very gentle touch. The genocide route is all about progressively breaking the boundary between the player and the game, to the point where the player, through sheer determination, breaks the game entirely, seemingly uninterested in the story and only focusing on sucking out every little bit of the game they can. At its apex, the game _just crashes._ After the genocide run is done _there is no more game._ So to then go back and talk as if Chara is a real character in a defined setting just misses the point completely. Chara is YOU, the malevolent entity that decided, on a whim, to destroy an entire world of stories and characters _just for the thrill of it._
@danielpozo3958
@danielpozo3958 5 лет назад
I liked your video and your theory, but I have a few questions. 1 If this world is created by Chara, how is Gaster releated to it? 2 What would be the meaning of Jevil's message that he leaves you when you defeat him by attacking him (about the raise of a Queen)? 3 What would explain Jevil's madness in this world?
@kauekairony990
@kauekairony990 5 лет назад
These are all mysteries that will probably be revealed in the next chapters.
@yes.8773
@yes.8773 5 лет назад
Since Gaster was scattered throughout time and space due to that accident, he was literally everywhere through the world, the creation. It would make sense that Chara couldn't actually delete him entirely; maybe this is the same Gaster from the other timeline which is Undertale. Lemme explain. I thought of this. Chara says to delete this world and move on to the next, but if you delete EVERYTHING, there is really no next world, just completely nothing. So maybe not 100% of the world was deleted..maybe, let's say 5% or even 1% was left for the next world to start actually forming. This is probably where Gaster is, its possible that he wasn't erased in the first place If this sounds stupid lemme know lmao
@yes.8773
@yes.8773 5 лет назад
As for Jevil, I haven't read any theories about him. I literally just defeated him a few hours ago.
@yes.8773
@yes.8773 5 лет назад
One thing I forgot to mention was the NPC from the Undertale Switch version who foreshadows Deltarune. When she does (i hope its a she), she turns grey, just like the Gaster Followers, tells you about deltarune, and disappears. It kinda makes sense that Gaster wasn't erased, since he would know about deltarune even during the undertale events because he is scattered through time too which would mean he can be present in any timeline, including deltarune. If everything was deleted by chara, deltarune wouldn't exist and the foreshadowing wouldn't have happened. Dammit, Toby!
@kauekairony990
@kauekairony990 5 лет назад
@@yes.8773 Maybe they tried deleted everything with the name gaster in it, that would explain the name Easter egg
@snowdragon0638
@snowdragon0638 5 лет назад
And Chara’s negative colours are the same as Kris’s other form 😐
@Pundae
@Pundae 2 года назад
You gotta give Toby props. He found a way to make a whole new game with a whole new story while keeping almost all of the characters... now that's efficiency
@PikaBolaChan
@PikaBolaChan 5 лет назад
4:36 that’s Gasters sounds as found in Undertale, and you only get this “song” by speeding up the sound near the bunker by 666% also fun fact! the game version is 0.6.6.6 sooooooo yeahhh
@4ngiel0ver
@4ngiel0ver 5 лет назад
Yep its called mus_smile
@travisshaffer6623
@travisshaffer6623 5 лет назад
@@4ngiel0ver I know it makes me smile! So good song name for me! LOL
@akesel5472
@akesel5472 5 лет назад
gaster is satan
@denjay1574
@denjay1574 5 лет назад
You can also get the "song" by trying to use the phone while in the dark world. And also you have to speed the sound by the bunker by 500%, not 666%.
@alauramercereau4360
@alauramercereau4360 5 лет назад
*X-Files theme plays eerily in background*
@kaylinschatzer3237
@kaylinschatzer3237 5 лет назад
I've got a question no one seems to be answering, so I thought I'd put it out there. What about Lancer? He seems really dynamic and is very integral to the story/prophecy for just some DnD style npc Kris made up. I Also don't think Toby would put that much work into a character that wouldn't play at least a mildly significant role moving forward (and just be some imaginary thing for the 1st chapter). What do you think his purpose is? Do you he is completely made up? I have a feeling that he might be related to Sans in some way which is why Sans has what could be the "Thrash Your Own A$$" blueprint in his secret shed, the drawing of the 3 people (Ralsei -or maybe Lancer-, Kris, and Susie from their first adventure), and also the relation he has with the darkner door portal. I really hope someone does some looking into this!
@raptorkil
@raptorkil 5 лет назад
oh the blueprint, nice catch
@leximagic2455
@leximagic2455 3 года назад
8:22 WAIT! Ignore the theory for a sec, I just noticed that the guy driving the green car is *one of the snails* from the Blook’s Farm ... A *s n a i l* , *driving* a *car* Lol
@flashlight1134
@flashlight1134 3 года назад
I just realized that “Ralsei” is just “Asriel” mixed up.
@Dice-Z
@Dice-Z 5 лет назад
Everyone freaking out about the last scene and i'm just here like: "What if we are just seeing a nightmare from Kris."
@vrostar
@vrostar 5 лет назад
This is why i hit that bell icon, knew u would come back with an amazing theory❤️
@fierceserge8061
@fierceserge8061 4 года назад
also, the sound when you try to make a call on your cellphone in the dark world is the same sound from Gaster
@vaseslavy8516
@vaseslavy8516 2 года назад
this theory is even more correct considering kris ripping his heart out in chapter 2 and creating a dark world
@reacquire4026
@reacquire4026 5 лет назад
Your such a good theorist and always make me think I love your videos 👌👌
@floralwaters1740
@floralwaters1740 5 лет назад
Yes! I am so glad someone finally covered the “don’t forget” part of UNDERTALE and deltarune! I thought I was the only one who thought that!
@PrincePyronius
@PrincePyronius 4 года назад
With all this alternate realities stuff happening, does that mean the ENTIRE FANDOM FITS IN THIS ENTIRE STORY?!?!
@jackalfire6797
@jackalfire6797 2 года назад
It's so amazing to see how this changes in chapter 2 and how stuff changes/flips on its head
@saakshis2942
@saakshis2942 5 лет назад
19:12 That isn't the Undertale ending its the Infinity War ending
@themightycatwith1ksubs950
@themightycatwith1ksubs950 4 года назад
Ikr
@emmaemma8171
@emmaemma8171 4 года назад
Why
@ocean037
@ocean037 5 лет назад
What if Undertale is just like a pilot episode that turned out well and deltarune is the original idea Toby had. That would explain everything(same characters, similar plot, etc) without overthinking lol I really hope those game are not related at all beside some cool/funny references and easter eggs, that way we could enjoy both games by themselves, without any conspiration theory behind.
@bro748
@bro748 5 лет назад
Well, that's pretty much what Toby said on Twitter, so that should be the case.
@corinth9140
@corinth9140 5 лет назад
Toby *wants* us to make theories His games are full of easter eggs and secrets and many things that are related to other things
@Pundae
@Pundae 2 года назад
The theory of it being a dream doesn't really work when you consider the dialogue and events of the snowgrave route. What happens in that world carries over to the 'real' world
@Imaginehavingausernamelol
@Imaginehavingausernamelol 5 лет назад
The way you pronounce “genocide”
@bonk6820
@bonk6820 4 года назад
gee-nosice
@popatochisps6712
@popatochisps6712 3 года назад
Geno sauce
@blast573
@blast573 3 года назад
@@bonk6820 jeno - side is the correct way
@blast573
@blast573 3 года назад
jeno - side
@nitricacid2516
@nitricacid2516 5 лет назад
4:30 Gerson is the shopkeeper in waterfall, as told from a call from undyne He fought in the war against humans and monsters, so maybe that's why he has a memorial bench
@realperson9951
@realperson9951 5 лет назад
when people making theories but only chapter one is released while other chapters are not
@commenteroftruth9790
@commenteroftruth9790 5 лет назад
Thats why theyre called theories.
@marrqi7wini54
@marrqi7wini54 4 года назад
I still kind of wonder when ch 2 comes?
@yttdbutgay
@yttdbutgay 4 года назад
Fun fact: in Deltarune, if you put in the creator of the vessel (your name) if you put in Gaster, it’s the same affect as in undertale. It plays the story again. (So I ended up typing Sans as the creator name)
@Gmany01
@Gmany01 2 года назад
Ralsei is the prince of dark because he’s a darkner, I thought that was obvious.
@alpinedog4153
@alpinedog4153 5 лет назад
if it was all kris's imagination, how did susie know what happened??
@thegdrubix3295
@thegdrubix3295 4 года назад
Good point!!!
@Francesco-cj3oi
@Francesco-cj3oi 4 года назад
She doesn't address what we played She only asks if it was a dream and then tells you to come back the next day. But we don't know if she was actually part of it
@arkaring
@arkaring 3 года назад
@@Francesco-cj3oi that makes no sense tho, if she really didn't live the events in the dark world, then why would she make such a big change in personality? Remember she was clearly bullying you before, and also had her eyes blocked by her hair, however, she remains with her eyes out, aswell as her kind attitude after she joins the party for real, so is basically implied she lived/remembers what happened
@PikaBolaChan
@PikaBolaChan 5 лет назад
you see so many of the characters form Undertale, there’s NO WAY it’s a different world
@imabrahamdc2464
@imabrahamdc2464 5 лет назад
ITS an alternate timeline.
@hmm4651
@hmm4651 5 лет назад
it's been confirmed by toby fox himself that deltarune is an au
@firefly_the_furry848
@firefly_the_furry848 4 года назад
“Don’t forget” made me ugly cry so hard! It’s such a good song okay!?!?
@catloof5722
@catloof5722 4 года назад
4:14 IS THAT A DR WHO REFERENCE?
@Julia-ik2pz
@Julia-ik2pz 5 лет назад
if anyone noticed the similarity between the statue in watherfall and the king?
@breadbug6101
@breadbug6101 5 лет назад
Julia Krata Holy hell I never noticed
@cosmicmuse2195
@cosmicmuse2195 5 лет назад
I have a feeling the "vessel" we created will soon be housing that soul if this theory is pretty accurate. Signs point to it since all our choices were saved and there are hidden text files of someone calling out in the dark. Perhaps Kris( or Chara) will turn out to be the true villain of this game. I dig the idea anyway. I get tired of Chara being painted in the "victim" light.
@memesshouldstayasdreams9483
@memesshouldstayasdreams9483 5 лет назад
And I'm tired of seeing people not double checking facts to make sure that chara's evil. Because I am sick of seeing people saying that chara's evil. I don't see chara as good or bad. They are the chaotic neutral, Frisk is chaotic good and us the player I see as the chaotic bad. However, with the way Kris acts at the end of deltarune I think he will be the new chaotic bad for all of ut and dr.
@CHAOS_CLOWN.
@CHAOS_CLOWN. 2 года назад
Funfact:ralsei is the prince of the dark. Like look at his first appearance he looks like the last one and he even stated himself he is he is the prince of this area which is called "the kingdom of -nightmarefuel- darkness" when you first fell in in the darkworld with SUSie
@Ada.sRedDress
@Ada.sRedDress 3 года назад
The don't forget song is honestly so amazing in my opinion, it literally made me cry once-
@lorrainej4308
@lorrainej4308 5 лет назад
I can’t wait for the hit title “tuna elder” 😂
@dogavolo2404
@dogavolo2404 2 года назад
kris get the banana
@unistar8014
@unistar8014 4 года назад
I also have a theory of Deltarune so imma be talkin about Kris and Undertale cause in undertale you see the pixelated pictured of the war between humans and monsters Asgore was the monster’s leader thats why he was in front but who is in front of the human race army thing? i have a theory that might be Kris cause of the cape- the sword and the hair UwU B u t h e y t h a t s j u s t a t h e o r y A F I L M T H E O R Y -
@wazz35
@wazz35 4 года назад
I believe when kris throws the soul into the cage, it's a symbol for removing the control of the player, similar to how Chara removes the players way of choosing
@sugarman2640
@sugarman2640 5 лет назад
10:35 And this makes a lot of *Sans* .
@Zetarla
@Zetarla 5 лет назад
well great. . .i was gonna make that joke. well you beat me to it lol!
@GamingWithCalvin1
@GamingWithCalvin1 5 лет назад
what I think: They are the same person just with a different name (and younger), I mean come on, other characters from undertale are here, and you're Asriel adopted sibling. It's kinda obvious that it's just Chara from another universe
@FinalShieldnobi
@FinalShieldnobi 4 года назад
But then why is Kris' name different? Asriel, Toriel, Asgore, Sans, all these names are exactly the same. Yet Kris isn't named Chara?
@Inspirit-gp4dp
@Inspirit-gp4dp 4 года назад
Lvl1Shield because Chara isn’t canonically the first human’s name
@Countcomfortable
@Countcomfortable 3 года назад
I had no idea about this channel until now
@monaelsafy1098
@monaelsafy1098 4 года назад
No one: Not even a single soul: RUSTY: enjoy you're nightmare fuel
@jenniferparke7699
@jenniferparke7699 2 года назад
Rusty: the dark world is all of Kris’ imagination! Deltarune chp2: NOPE
@YouLikeKrabbyPattiesDontYou
@YouLikeKrabbyPattiesDontYou 5 лет назад
considering there's only one part out, i think you can only call this a theory, not "the truth" or "explained."
@melinarodriguez8973
@melinarodriguez8973 3 года назад
This is the best theory so far!!!
@Kasutops
@Kasutops 4 года назад
Watching this at 3am and trying not to fall asleep to rustys amazing voice
@joannsmith1233
@joannsmith1233 5 лет назад
Hi Rusty!
@TheManInBlueFlames
@TheManInBlueFlames 5 лет назад
You're right to not believe everything Toby says DIRECTLY. He's been wrong about his own creations before...which kind of doesn't make any sense... 2:01-Yes i agree that it's a rearrangement of UNDERTALE. I think the world does have something to do with Gaster though.
@bro748
@bro748 5 лет назад
When has Toby Fox been 'wrong about his own creations before?'
@wooshifbigdumb8119
@wooshifbigdumb8119 5 лет назад
Has no one noticed the weird hook gaster follower is in the library blocking the second floor?He’s coloured in and tells you to check out the second floor but doesn’t let you past.
@Ep1X__
@Ep1X__ 3 года назад
Maybe this is the world/timeline Sans wanted to go back to. Maybe Sans is actually "controlling" the game, seeing as the fast travel door is literally his door for example, also, he looks exactly like himself from Undertale, which just strengthens this theory
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