You know you don't need to beat up animals in order for them to do your bidding. You just have to win their trust and loyalty, because once you do that they will never forget you. This elephant is really amazing.
Good comment. Show you have insight. One thing you forgot to mention is that training by using positive reinforcement works extremely well. The elephants painting in these videos are treated with lots of bananas and sugar cane.
All the complainers use the same old blog posts and videos used by so called "Elephant Sanctuaries" promoting their own agenda and slamming every other park operator in existence to steer the tourist dollar into their own pockets. Very clever but deceptive marketing.
Never saw an elephant painting before but I once saw an elephant being painted on. It was having henna / mendhi applied to it and it seemed to enjoy the pampering and attention. It was the personal elephant of a gentleman that would use it for transportation. They were obviously good friends. The gentleman also owned two camels which he would rent out. The camels were also very smart. These camels could be rented for one-way trips around town and when you would reach your destination you would simply get off the camel (the camel would let you down) then you would pat it on its rump and it would leave. But it would know its way back to its owner. Now, here's where it gets interesting. These camels were so well trained that they knew to watch out for traffic and look both ways before crossing any street, but wait for it: They also knew to obey street lights!! They would slow down at a yellow light, stop at a red light, and go on a green light. So these camels would navigate the streets along side cars even in congested traffic. They were so smart!! And the way that these camels and the elephant got along and were kind and gentle to people never gave me the impression that they were ever mistreated. Yes they were working animals but they also seemed to appreciate people and themselves and company. People would say hi to them and they would occasionally pause to acknowledge people they knew along the way. You could see it in their eyes that they were social. We should never underestimate these precious conscious beings.
They are all beaten and tortured when youre not looking. They are concious and aware which is why they are smart enough to play along. If they show anynsigns of disobedience or revellion they know what follows.
not brilliant did u know how did this elepant learn to paint.. guest something bad. of course your thinking is true. whoever this guy is poking in his ear harshly .so cruelty
@@mr.ditkovich9yearswith hey! Some elephants are treated fairly! I mean I'm surprised how an elephant paint like that... We're not perfect so we act like this. -I'm too lazy to write more and my life sucks-
@@mr.ditkovich9yearswith No need to complain! As I said in the last comment, "Some elephants are treated fairly" Some people train elephants without needing to hurt them... -I'm tired of commenting this-
You don't have to dig real deep to find video of them being abused. Their ears get pulled. They get poked with nails and sharp objects. And they get whipped until they learn the pattern Don't be willfully ignorant
In Thailand, we have 2 types of elephant. -wild elephant (forest animal) -house elephant (can not live in wild)-> SUDA Elephant training same another pet training with love..don't worry-we have Animal Protection Law for Elephant.
@@a.i.journey I have no idea about the treatment of these elephants. My issue is that they are being presented as having real artistic skill, when in fact they are really performing tricks prompted by the trainers. There is no doubt that their trunks seem extremely dexterous considering their size, but minus trainer in attendance the elephant would produce squiggles at best, or more likely not bother at all.
@@chekia7767 That's just plainly not true. Given the time these elephants have been given to train, I'd say any person would paint just as well if not better provided they don't have any severely limiting disability.
An elephant painting its own species interacting with trees is akin to speaking with us at least at the level of a human child and should not be taken lightly. Maybe if the whole world saw this they would stop abusing elephants. Absolutely incredible.
I don't think that all of these trainings were horrible at all. Just like any other animals and humans, there are ways to train animals. If punishment method could make an elephant paint, I think reward method can also be possible to teach an animal.
You show insight Paul and you are correct. There seems to be a current of negativity which has been caused by two or three blog posts with elephants being abused in some totally unrelated scenario. The activists then use those posts to smear the elephant parks and their operators with accusations of abuse and torture, but very cleverly don't mention the names of any parks. Funny that. Isn't it.
@@Analstrosen Americans are always racist towards other countries and are quick to believe the many false stereotypes created out of thin air. Like with the whole fried chicken, grape soda, and watermelon thing. America was built off of racism.
I wonder what the elephant is thinking while painting. I wonder if it thinks if it likes the painting or not- or if it realizes when it makes a mistake. Or maybe it does realize it makes mistakes and just goes with it? Truly the Bob Ross of the animal world
Amanda, You are correct!! Every captive Asian elephant is tortured. People must LEARN. They can watch videos to learn the truth about how these elephants are " trained".
They need to look up the words, PHAJAAN, TORTURE TRAINING OF ELEPHANTS, also called Crush Training. They need to look up a photo of the very sharp, pointed steel BULLHOOK that was invented solely for stabbing elephants very deeply, that evil men repeatedly beat the elephants with.
Aquilona 16 No. It is their known cultural tradition. It is only just now in the earliest stages of slowly changing one by one. And that means and is KNOWN, that everyone in the culture for thousands of years has committed PHAJAAN and BULLHOOK violence. That is what the BULLHOOK is all about. PHAJAAN, Torture "training" of captive elephants is fully standard, WHICH KILLS HALF OF ALL CAPTIVE ASIAN ELEPHANT BABIES, and not only to calves, they do it again to the elephant every single time it is sold to someone new. I suggest you educate yourself rather than trying to stop those who are working to stop the violence. HEAR ME, I WILL NEVER BE SILENT ABOUT WHAT IS DONE TO ELEPHANTS. ELEPHANTS ARE ENDANGERED BECAUSE OF MAN KILLING THEM, AND WILL VERY SOON BECOME EXTINCT IF MAN DOES NOT STOP THE VIOLENCE AGAINST ELEPHANTS. I will not hush.
Yes they do, there is lots of footage about it. They dig nails into their heads and ears and break their spirits. That is called abuse. They don't ask the elephants hey do you fancy painting today and the elephant picks up a brush and then starts painting
Oh dear why are you getting so upset when someone points out that elephants are abused in these tourist attractions, too lazy to do your own research so you accuse me of being stupid haha Do you really think these elephants happily leave their families so they can paint daft pictures for tourists?
Seriously look at the opening few seconds of this video, that trainer has a stick with a massive nail in it, use your eyes and brain before you call others stupid
+knightofdreamz BINARY IS CORRECT. ELEPHANTS ARE FORCED THROUGH PHAJAAN, TORTURE TRAINING AS BABIES, AND IT KILLS OVER HALF OF THEM. THEY ARE FORCED THROUGH IT REPEATEDLY, AND EVERY TIME THEY ARE SOLD. THE ELEPHANT TOURISM INDUSTRY IS VERY DEADLY FOR ELEPHANTS, AND YOU ARE DEFENDING IT. YOUR SECRET IS OUT! MULTIPLED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE NOW KNOW THAT ELEPHANTS ARE TRAINED WITH DEADLY TORTURE. YOU CANNOT LIE ANY MORE. WE KNOW THE TRUTH.
This video does not explain at all how or why they paint. Is it trained? Do they know what they are painting? Do they enjoy painting? None of this was answered.
They don't know they are painting, they are responding to prompts from the trainer. in the same way as you can get an elephant to execute choreographed dance moves. Do they enjoy it? They would rather be playing in a waterhole.
He explains he would deal with that in a latter pod cast. This is just a history of why elephants are in sanctuaries to begin with and why they sell the painting to support the elephants.
Here is an updated video with narrative. It will help answer any questions you and others may have about elephant paintings. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7XOl48ssdyo.html
@@a.i.journey Yeah, in ONE sentence in that video, you say that the mahout trainer is guiding the elephant's trunk. You don't say how (though, you and I both know exactly how, right?). You know darned well that you are still attempting to conceal how this trick actually works.
Here are some other great elephant painting videos: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dN8oEL5z3e8.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-08muCVNKn9I.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BrK8-i3j_6w.html Check them out.
All these people who say oh the poor elephant are the same people who eat animals every day. You think what you eat is loved before they kill them . The fact these animals can paint is fantastic. You all probably had or have pets and that's no less inhumane.
Your'e right. I really feel sorry for them. They genuinely think what they are supporting is right. But the truth is, they're just supporting another type of elephant camp and sending tourist dollars to those operators. What's good about the elephant show parks is that they don't condemn the parks which the activists support.
I don't want to eat meat I know what they do to animals to obtain that but me not eating meat will not stop people killing the poor creatures so I continue
I like the video you showed while you talked and the music was thematically appropriate, but it was too loud, and because of that I found it hard to pay attention to your words over the music and video. Still great to watch and wonderful to know they get their rest and aren't abused!
Thanks for your comment. I apologise that the music may have been a bit loud and you found it distracting. I will bear this in mind when creating videos in the future.
Is this real or fake? On the 60 Minutes show with Komar and Melamid the elephants could only paint abstract lines and scribbles. If this is real do the elephants consciously paint something or are they trained to make specific shapes?
This is the real deal. They can be trained to paint specific shapes and letters. Elephants have quite good memories, so they can remember some of the things they paint if they don't get too complicated. However, elephants have been able to do some quite accurate head portraits of people.
+PaintingsByElephants ONCE AGAIN, YOU LIE ABOUT HOW ELEPHANTS ARE TRAINED. THEY ARE TORTURED, AND EVERY READER HERE NEEDS TO LOOK UP PHAJAAN, TORTURE TRAINING OF ELEPHANTS, ALSO CALLED CRUSH TRAINING, AND LEARN THE EXTREMELY BRUTAL TORTURE THAT EVERY SINGLE CAPTIVE ASIAN ELEPHANT IS FORCED THROUGH, THAT KILLS OVER HALF OF THEM. THIS MAN IS LYING IN ORDER TO KEEP THE IGNORANT WESTERN TOURISTS COMING. $$$$
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The majority of these comments are sickening. Throwing around random accusations. What do you know about this man and his involvement with animals? Some of you guys are just as bad as the people who ACTUALLY do abuse living beings. It's sick. So quick to judge. Yet you know nothing, and don't care to. He's arguing over whether the people that trained that particular elephant(in the video) have abused him or not. Not to mention he's getting attacked because that CA catr chick is flaming the hell out of him for abusing the elephant in the video that HE filmed. I don't know about you guys, but if their were baseless accusations like that floating around then I would OBVIOUSLY defend myself. No shit some disgusting human beings abuse elephants. Just like how some humans abuse canines, felines, animals in general, and even our own kind. That doesn't mean that every damn elephant that paints was abused/tortured into doing it. Think with your brain for once, not your damn feelings. Think using logic. Stop being so quick to jump on the 'abuse train', and start thinking with your head.
@@e.b.4379I only need to say 2 thing 1. yes elephants are abused and 2. not every elephant you see is being abused. And if you say "buT THeY aRE BEinG aBuseD!!!!1111!!1!!", deep inhale ok then go to Asia look at every fucking trained elephant and see if there abused .
You really need to think on what you belive HOW can you go thinking that every elephant is abused use this example EX) some dogs are trained by abuse but does that mean all of them are? No fuck off rethink your decision
While they are intelligent (they are very good at being elephants), this is merely following prompts from the trainer. Left alone with brushes & canvas they wouldn't have a clue.
An amazing video I must say. Cant believe how artistic that little fella is... You haven't mentioned anything on how these elephants get trained tho. The issue I have with this is the fact that they are not born to be painters! Are they tortured to make them into these amazing artists? Is mankind so cruel as to try and make these large, friendly and kind animals into making a living for him? Can you please shed a little more light on the training process?
That's what I want to know! I have seen claims that baby elephants are "starved, shackled, and beaten, until their spirit is completely broken and they will submit to the will of their captors". What is the truth?
No, they're not tortured. There is a post being banted around the internet with the sole intention of shocking the public and discrediting elephant park owners to damage tourism and poor hill tribe villagers and small cottage industries.
There is a lot of hype going around that elephants are being tortured and forced to paint with the threat of extreme pain if they don't. This is untrue. It's done primarily to get engagement on their blogs and link juice from ranking websites. I am involved with elephants frequently and non of the things mentioned are done at the place where I go. But just remember this, an elephant is a high value asset and people don't go around killing off the golden goose for a few paintings unless they're a total idiot.
PaintingsByElephants What about Elephant crushing aka phajaan? Where is a non-biased source that discredits elephant crushing in relation to elephant paintings?
+PaintingsByElephants WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING ABOUT NO TORTURE IS A BLATANT FALSEHOOD, A HUGE LIE. ALL CAPTIVE ASIAN ELEPHANTS ARE FORCED THROUGH PHAJAAN, TORTURE TRAINING THAT KILLS OVER HALF OF ALL CAPTIVE ASIAN ELEPHANT BABIES, AND ITS FORCED ON THE ELEPHANTS REPEATEDLY THROUGHOUT LIFE, EVERY TIME THEY ARE SOLD, AND BEING STABBED WITH THE BULLHOOK IS A CONSTANT FEAR FOR THE ELEPHANTS. YOU ARE BLATANTLY ATTEMPTING TO HIDE EVIL CRUELTY AND BRUTALITY THROUGH YOUR LIE. ELEPHANTS ARE TRAINED WITH TORTURE. READERS, DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS MAN. DO YOUR RESEARCH ON PHAJAAN, TORTURE TRAINING OF ELEPHANTS, ALSO CALLED THE CRUSH.
I don’t think elephants should be forced to do tricks for our entertainment. They are extremely intelligent and should be treated as such. Because of this, its possible that the elephants are painting not because they are being forced to, but because the elephant WANTS to! If the elephants are finding enjoyment in the task, how can it be cruel?
Look, I don't know how cruel this particular camp is, or not. But, if you actually believe that the elephants WANT to paint, then you're amazingly gullible. This is a parlor trick. The elephant doesn't have any clue what it's going to paint. The mahout/trainer is the real painter. The elephant is trained to be a large living remote controlled arm, and the mahout uses the elephant's ear as an input joystick to guide the elephant's trunk in the direction the mahout/trainer wants. This is why you will find elephants writing words in any language (that a buyer will pay for). This particular camp appears to be smart enough now to remote all videos of elephants writing words. But, if you look around, you'll find plenty of videos out there showing how the trick is done. Sorry, but an elephant has no idea what a "Ford Fiesta" is (a video you will easily find on RU-vid of an elephant writing words). An elephant has no idea who the royal couple is, and why they got married (a video showing the elephant painting a picture of the royal couple at the alter getting married). An elephant has no idea who "Sean" is, and what a birthday is (a video showing the elephant painting words, "HAPPY BIRTHDAY SEAN" onto the canvas). This is a parlor trick. And, if you think the elephants paint for enjoyment, well, instead of giving the tourist trap some money for these fake paintings, how about buying some oceanfront land from me instead? It's in Kansas. I'll pay the elephant camp to paint "BUY MY LAND" onto the canvas to prove it's real.
Having taken a brief break to read up on this now I know it's Training not art. I still believe the elephant is intelligent and has great dexterity. But they paint the same painting over and over at each place in southern Asia they, (drawing elephants), are kept. So, sadly, it is fake because the trainer tugs the elephant ear in a particular manner for a type of painting stroke. I really wanted elephants to be creating art! But they are still as intelligent as dolphins and show emotions we understand. So keep your healthy respect and awe.
Even learning to paint and draw is training. That's true for every skill. I was not born with the talent to draw, but I had to be trained. It takes repetition and an instructor to oversee it. For years I only knew how to draw one picture because it was taught very simply to me in kindergarten. The very fact that these elephants can be trained in this is remarkable. Tugging at his ear is how the trainer communicates with the elephant. I don't think anyone expects that an elephant would be born on the Sahara with the knowledge of how to pick up a paint brush and go at a canvas. They have to be taught what it is, how to use it, how to paint, and which shapes to paint for that day. Hence, the tugging is not manipulation unless all forms of instruction and training is some form of manipulation.
I feel like it at least partially is art. It seemed the elephant decided exactly where to put those green brush strokes, even went back to an area already done, because it looked like it needed a little something else. Behold an artist at work!
@@Chandra_Moon13 It's a trick in the same way circus elephants are taught to "Dance". They don't see this as performance or art, anymore than if they had been trained to shift logs from one spot to another. They have no concept of what they are doing or why. There is no evolutionary advantage to elephants making human art. So they don't. Elephants are intelligent, but to use human IQ or artistic talent as a measure does them a disservice. Wanting them to be more like us is arrogant, & ultimately harmful. If we can read positive human attributes into animal behaviour, it's easy to slip into bestowing evil traits on them too when they are merely behaving naturally.
@@Chandra_Moon13 Helena, it has been explained to you that the elephant is trained to steer the paintbrush in the direction that the trainer pulls the ear, and that's how this trick is done. Why in the world would you compare that to humans learning to paint? Humans know what they are painting. Elephants do not. The elephant is trained to be a giant living remote control arm for the mahout/trainer, who is the real artist. The fact that you'd compare a mechanical motion in an elephant to an actual human who creates a painting is an insult to humans, and falsely boosts the status of the elephants. Don't get me wrong. Elephants are remarkable creatures. But, painters, they are not. If you open Microsoft Paint with your computer, and use the computer's mouse to draw a simple sketch, do you attribute artistic skill to the computer mouse? Or, is the mouse merely the mechanical device that puts the marks on the screen where you directed it to go? Well, the elephant in this video is a glorified computer mouse, merely moving the paintbrush where the mahout steers the elephant's ear. You may marvel at that level of training, and that's fine. But, for the sake of humanity, do not degrade our human artistic capabilities just because some tourist spot in Thailand is selling "elephant paintings" via this video.
The elephants are conditioned to do this via abuse, physical and/ or psychological. They do not voluntarily walk up and do this: - there is a handler next to them sticking their ears with nails or some other pain causing inducement so they keep painting; - they are chained to the spot; and - if they do not cooperate and paint they are not fed. In a nutshell, the elephants are tortured juveniles separated from their mothers at 2 years old (same as a human toddler developmentally) and endure years of physical and psychological conditioning to create the same series of lines and shapes each time.
Are you asking how the trick is done? It's done by training the elephant to move the trunk and paintbrush in the direction that the mahout/trainer pulls the elephant's ear. They never show the opposite side of the elephant, otherwise you'd you'd see the trick. No, the elephant doesn't know what it's painting. These "paintings" are sold to gullible buyers who think these elephants are artists. And, this video is carefully constructed to pretend the trick is "real," because the poster of the video is the one making money when these "paintings" are purchased.
There is nothing to expose. What needs to be exposed is activist scammers trying to damage or even destroy the elephant park tourism which actually helped elephants.
Man I applaud you for trying but these people are to dense to understand. They obviously read one article or watched one video and now assume every animal was trained through abuse and tactics similar. You could be George Washington and Ca (You know who I'm talking about) still wouldn't believe you. I wish you luck in you journey to spread awareness though. See you soon friend hopefully things will be better then. -Random stranger.
Regardless of what you may think or have been told the elephants are actually treated and fed well. Animals that have been abused are generally unhealthy, underweight and sickly looking. As you will see from the video the elephant is strong and healthy. There are no signs of physical abuse or torture as you are claiming. Where are you getting your information about Suda and the other elephants at this park from. Just saying you saw it on a RU-vid video at some other place just won't cut it, because it is some other place. Not this place! Go and make comments on those videos where the villains really are!
PaintingsByElephants This is a young elephant that should still be with its mother and not performing for humans. Go and visit Elephant Nature Park and see how elephants should live. How do you “train” your elephants if you don’t use pain and bull hooks? By the way I have visited your park as part of a tour and saw young elephants with very obvious bull hook injuries so what I know is first hand knowledge.I can see her trainer standing by her right ear and he would be using his hand to press on the area behind her ear where he would have hurt her while he was training her to do these paintings.
OMG I KNEW IT! There was a video of an elephant called suda painting, so many said it was amazing but i KNEW it must have been beaten or something! Its not natural
It hasn't been beaten. Those are wild and crazy comments made by people who have probably never seen Suda paint close up, like I have, let alone ever been to an elephant show for real.
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Sara, when you go to Vegas and see a magic show, there will be some tricks that you won't know how they are done, but you know they are just tricks, right? Why do you throw all of that sensibility out the window when you watch a RU-vid video? You obviously don't know how this trick is done, which is fine, most people won't know how the trick works. But, rational people at least know it's a trick. But, really? You REALLY think elephants are artists? And, magically, the entire world's supply of elephant artists are located in tourist traps in Thailand, the world's best know capitol of tourist traps? Really? None of this lights up any red flags for you?
So dexterous!!! I am quite good at art but I struggle to draw bodies in animal or human form , so talented 😃 love their eyes how soft , focused and concentrated they are . Beautiful beings , always loved Elephants . Used to draw them all the time as a child , they feel like home to me 🤗♥️
@@riejrjejejrjejrjrkenendkdj4207 Pffttt. I have a bridge for sale. Interested? I'll have the elephant camp paint a picture of it to prove my bridge is real. Um, but, seriously, are you just happier being delusional? Or, do you want to know how the trick is done? I mean, really, it's fine if you'd rather be delusional. Lots of people never want to now how the trick works, and get very upset when their delusions are busted. So, I can leave you to your delusions, or I can explain the magic trick. Your choice.
People don't realize that apart from us blue whales and elephants are the smartest mammals... some people don't take the time to realize that we're not the only species that can do things, in fact it these animals weren't as compassionate and loving as they are i have no doubt that they would easily overpower all of us. when people see animals doing things they've never seen before they automatically assume someone beat them to train them. I have two dogs that are both trained to sit, lay down, attack, heel, stand down, retrieve, and speak and we didn't beat them. We simply showed them compassion and have them positive feedback when they did good and negative feed back when they do bad... Please consider stuff like this before saying that animals were abused... That's how you shut down good places like this..
Honestly I think it's brilliant to let the Elephants paint. He or she seems very peaceful. Paint is like a get away to me, and it looks like a get away for the Elephant as well. It doesn't look like its being forced at all. But like it's concentrating and focusing on what he wants to show everyone around him or her. I Love It! I think humans should teach to Elephants how to paint. maybe even give them better brushes and show them more ways to paint also. If they do have a photographic memory then they could make fabulous paintings!!!
Why do people always assume that when an animal does a trick especially large animals like elephants are tortured? I won't deny it happened in the past. And I won't deny there are probably still some places that do this. But it doesn't mean that it happens in every sanctuary and the owner of this video already commented many times that in THIS sanctuary and in most they aren't tortured. If a dog sits when its owner tells him to sit, do you also automatically assume it gets tortured? Some are being tortured, most aren't, most are being taught to sit by first saying sit, then gently pushing the bum down until the dog sits and then rewarding with a snack the dog likes. I learned my guinea pigs to turn in around in a circle every time I whistle. And I haven't raised my hand against them once. I just guided them a few times with gently pushing them to turn around (gently, not forcefully) every time I whistle and then give vegetables until they understand what I expected them to do. So now every time I whistle they turn around and expect veggies (and when I don't give it they will torture me by screaming until they get the veggies). This kind of learning tricks by rewarding them for doing what you want them to do works for every animal, whether small like a hamster doing a tiny hamster parcour, a dog catching a villain trying to run and bite when the villain is moving and let go if the villain stops moving, a rat sniffing out drugs in the airport, a horse bowing or an elephant painting. You don't need torture to train any animal. Patience love and reward also do the trick. I don't say that it doesn't happen at all that elephants are being tortured. But it doesn't happen in every sanctuary. It's like saying all horses, dogs, rodents and other animals being trained to obey are abused. And if you think that training any creature to obey even if done with love and rewards is a form of abuse in itself then I surely hope you don't have children because raising a child is exactly the same, you are training the child to behave properly and well mannered, to learn how to read, write, calculate, etc. And most parents do this with love. And those who abuse are often at some point revealed and punished for what they have done. The world isn't the same as before 1990. Those crazy enough to abuse animals will get exposed a lot more easy nowadays and they will get punished for it. It stimulates people to know more about the animal they are dealing with and if they want to keep them make sure it has a good life (and consider if it is an animal you can keep, in the last century people kept cheetahs as pets, creatures that need to be able to run free and aren't suitable to keep in a house, nowadays people know better than that and if they want a cat buy a domesticated one) and if they want to train them use reward systems. Our own knowledge has increased and those who abuse get more easily exposed.
Thank you for your well thought out and balanced comment. It shows you are a thinker and that you are not ruled entirely by your emotions like many people are these days.
lv1309: Well, that's quite a lot of nonsense you just wrote. And, I'll tell you why. It's not because I'm saying that these elephants are tortured. There'd be no way for me to confirm or deny that. But, the major difference between the guy who runs this elephant camp, and your examples of people training their pets, is that nobody is deceptive about training their pets. People who talk about training their pets aren't making claims that their pets are artists, and selling you "paintings" made by their pets. Yet, that's what this elephant camp owner is doing. He's deceptive. He posted this video called "the truth about elephant paintings," but avoids telling the truth about elephant paintings. He sells the "paintings" made by the elephants, but doesn't tell you that it's all a parlor trick. The elephants don't know what they're painting. The mahout/trainer is on the other side of the elephant, holding the elephant's ear, guiding the paintbrush by using the elephant as a giant living remote control arm. Pull down on the ear, and the elephant paints down. Pull left, and the elephant paints left. Over years of training, this control is very precise, and it makes it appear that elephants are the artists. They're not. The artist is the mahout/trainer. The elephant just moves the trunk in the direction that the ear is pulled. And, if the gullible public knew the ACTUAL truth about elephant paintings, that the elephant doesn't know what it's painting, then there's no way in the world that he can sell this "art" for the amount of money he's selling it for. So, seriously, spare the world your ridiculous analogies to people training their pets or children. This is nothing like that. This video titled "the truth about elephant paintings" avoids telling you the most important truth of all. These "elephant paintings" are designed to separate your money from your pocketbook, by making you believe elephants are artists, and making you want to buy a "painting." That's the real truth about elephant paintings.
Amazing work by the elephant. It picked out a balanced way to paint the tree, then did a very novel approach to painting an elephant's silhouette and proportioning its legs in walking. Wow, very good.
If the elephant voluntarily engages with brush and paper and chooses the subject that is both amazing and must be a satisfying activity. The world of the elephant is full of seeing each other, following, seeing trees and thinking of a snack on it’s foliage or fruit .....the careful manipulation of the brush certainly indicates concentration and intention. Lots of food for thought on the inner world of other mammals.
And, if I explained how the parlor trick is done, and demonstrated to you that the elephant has no idea what it is painting, would you feel the same way?
Go to one of these parks. Talk to the owners. Talk to the mahouts. Get close up and touch one of these majestic creatures. See how they are actually treated instead of thinking you know how they are treated. You might be pleasantly surprised to realize that you were wrong or furious at those who led you to believe this abuse story!
PaintingsByElephants I said *NOT ALL* places not that every place is carefree and rainbows and cupcakes did I? Sometimes people go overboard with this stuff.
Suda is assisted by her mahout (trainer). If you want to know how Suda does these paintings watch the narrated version of the video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7XOl48ssdyo.html
I was watching another elephant painting video and some comments were saying that the people controlling the elephant would control them by sticking a pin thru its ear. Is that true ? As in training them to paint isnt humane
Bull crap. They are tortured to learn to do this, have a stick jammed in their sensitive trunk to "paint" and would never voluntarily do this if they were not conditioned to do this with, at best, threats of loss of food, and torture/ punishment for refusing at the worst.
Was the elephant trained to paint? Rather was it trained how to paint that specific painting or does it paint want it wants? Does it know what it's creating? Him / her
The elephant is forced to look at and paint the same thing over and over again, until it looks like the original. The guy beside the elephant abuses them if they do something wrong
@@laceymorris928 Wrong. The elephant is trained to direct the paintbrush in the direction that the mahout pulls the ear. They never show the other side of the elephant, of course, which would give away how the trick is done. But, the bottom line is, you are aware that this is a parlor trick, but you are unaware of how the trick is actually done.
I didn't see any information on why the elephants paint. I didn't see the man standing behind the elephant. What was he doing? How was he making the elephant paint? How was the elephants trained to paint to begin with? The video is cropped so we can't actually see what is happening. And nothing you said had anything to do with it.
This video is the first video in a video series. Did you watch the other episodes? It will answer all the questions you ask here and more. One of the reasons that the elephants paint is to help provide funds which support an elephant clinic with full time veterinarian who provides medical treatment to all elephants throughout the area free of charge.
Animals like pigs and cows are surprisingly intelligent and social, they understand nuance and are very sensitive emotionally, especially about what happens to their family. But we routinely destroy all the natural family ties and bonds, ending their lives horrendously. Babies bred only to die, how would we feel? We do this because we are *conditioned* to think that these and all animals are for food. They are not. Yes,, we have eaten them much, but we are evolving and it's time to know and understand better now. We *can* and *should* break this conditioning now. It a gross shame to continue to eat animals for what amounts, in this day and age, to our culinary entertainment and belief systems. Break away, be better, be different. Try different things, baked tofu, fishn filets, all kinds of alternatives, find something you like, and be a voice and make choices for the innocent. Do it....no excuses... because do you love these beings.... innocent beings... or not?
Hunter gatherers get 80% of their calories from meat. Thats how everybody got their calories until 5000 years ago. It is time to change our relationship with animals and not eat them anymore. It is also in our own interest. 1. We are destroying the oceans ecosystems with fishing. 2. The methane and carbondioxide from farmanimals add to the greenhouse effect. 3. Livestock causes erosion of the soil 4. and is inefficient use of land that could be better used for agriculture and nature. 5. Intensive livestock practices cause a lot of waste from breakdown of manure. 6. Livestock poses a risk of epedemics for humans. By use antibiotics on livestock a strain of bacteria or virusses can mutate and become immune. Livestock deceases can jump species. 7. etc.
Boi's i agree with you but we have an issue.. China AND NOT ALL CHINESE PEOPLE DON'T GET ME WRONG but we are in debt to them so bad that we can't stop them from fishing our seas.. We cannot do anything about them because we owe them to much. We as the new generation need to get together and fix this before it's to late. Please share this around on other videos about topics such as these. -Caw
Well, there are plenty of videos showing elephants painting words in every human language you ask for. But, of course, those paintings are done via the exact same trick that these paintings are done. So... communication?? Not really, because it's just a parlor trick. But, yeah, if elephants writing words is what you want to see, there's no shortage of those videos.
To learn why the elephants do the shows and paintings watch this video. It will explain a lot of things. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FADtmxS04GE.html
🇨🇦 wow! This is something I haven't seen before., I seriously don't think it's cruel to let them paint., I think it's good therapy!! Way to go people!! I love this!! God's lovely creatures!! 😃
What about breaking the spirit of a horse - just so you can ride them or train them to walk unnaturally, or race for your gambling enjoyment? What about gelding them? What about whipping horses or goading them with a sharp instrument to make them go faster?
Well, yeah, fuck those people. Even if they are in my country, in fact, fuck those people ESPECIALLY if they are in a very developed country and totally have a choice...
If you don't eat meat then the meat gets wasted meaning an animal died for nothing. Not eating meat all together could be unhealthy and unappetizing to some people. Treating animals better would cost more meaning less meat again meaning people would take it into their own hands to raise the animals such as class and pigs themselves. This would result in more animal mistreatment than before.
I remember back when this comment section was full of accusations of people believing that this fine elephant was being abused. It’s good to see that people with common sense took over since then.
They are beaten and starved . made to paint...there is a man holding the elephants ear while he paints with a stick with a nail in it to force him to go in different directions. Not cute this is abuse. Bunch of sick people
PaintingsByElephants you dont need to check many sources to see the man enter alongside the elephant in the first few seconds with a stick in his hand that has SOME sort of pointy object attached to it.
amanda Alright. I’ll give you that point. If I may say though, the elephant is visibly well. Doesn’t look to be starved. In pretty fine condition. There isn’t any cuts or pokes (that we can see). Do you have any other points that these elephants are actually abused? Some other elephants may be in another place, but this elephant in particular looks great. A lot of people in the comments are just following what other people said and aren’t thinking for themselves. I don’t know what else that stick could be for but how would you even use it? If they elephant messes up you poke it? Well how’s the elephant supposed to know where to go? Seems like a hard thing to do. You could be right, but these are just my points. Any other valid statements you have?
If you’re so concerned about the welfare of this elephant, why don’t you buy it and take care of it? We all know that if this elephant is released back into the wild, it will be killed by poachers. So put your money where your mouth is and let’s see how good you are at actually protecting elephants.
