After using both for months, I find myself reaching for the Rane every time, especially after upgrading the slipmats and vinyls, there's just no comparison!
Yo alapwn, I’m just getting back into Deejaying after 5 years, which slipmats and vinyls did you get or from where. Thanks man. I can Google, but I don’t really know which site is the best anymore
RANE ONE ! - Tank metal build -Easy one power cord universal, cleaner on external cords/ transformers. -Cleaner wiring , Inputs Outputs all compress in one side -Less deep,More tall less stress on your back. -Pitch on the sides LESS STRESS ON YOUR BACK for djs that play more than 3 h - You can ADD REAL VINYS to play w a turntable adapter. - MORE adds on like NS7 SCREENS. - You can conect to a Phone tablet -Easy find one dollar custom, make replace fix etc the DISCS.
After using the REV7 for a year and a half now, I can honestly say I love almost everything about this machine with the exception of the lack of it having a "CUE" button over the "Start/Stop" button.
@@djcarlo I warmed it up this morning and I can't help but just adore the damn thing. My first actually DJ players were a pair of Pioneer CDJ-500Gs in 1994. They were amazing. Fast forward 28 years and the Pioneer DDJ-REV& was the only way to go.
just got mine yesterday and used it on my 1st gig. I found the placement of the pitch bend 'weird', would have prefered to be actually near the pitch section. also, a 'click' on the 0 pitch position would have been great. but hey, no unit is perfect and I have to acknowledge they did an amazing job, very satisfied !
Where is the old Vestax hardware development staff now I wonder? Some eccentric billionaire who loves weird DJ gear needs to find them and assemble a team ASAP!
Amazing thorough review! I wish the REV 7 had the needle search strip, and click at 0 on the pitch. The face plate is delicate and I can see it wearing out in the future.
I think it maybe comes down to playing style & needs. Both have features the other doesn’t, enough to make it a legitimately tough decision. As useful as those extra screens are, I like the Rane’s ability to add 3rd party tonearms and play real records, and the fact that it supports Djay Pro, plus the build you get for a few hundred less is worth noting.
Rane ONE has metal outside whereas Rev7 has metal inside the build quality is more or less identical just cant see it from the outside of the Rev and it does now also work with Djay
*_Never had this issue in mind._* Interesting! Thanks for pointing that out Also it may be unfounded, but when I think of high quality, turntabilist gear I always think of Rane.
After a 5 hour set last nite i did not find the pitch fader position fatiguing at all. Likely due to it not being as far to reach as on a Technics 1200 say. Those extra 4 or so inches make a big difference. Also i dont scratch enough to the point where i would be causing that much damage over the faceplate BUT you bringing this potential issue up is key as we should all know the positives and negatives of this very expensive controller!
Amen dude! Glad you didn't experience the same problem I did. I just want controllers to be more uniform on the tempo fade side department. It's hard to go back and forth lol
I just purchased a Rev 7 a few weeks ago and everything you said is dead on. The controller is awesome. I can’t stay off of it and haven’t fired up my old S9 since I got my rev 7 lol.
One thing to mention is that if your a dj that plays with turntables all the time and wants a controller, the rev 7n is an perfect match for a dj who plays with turntables!
I bought a Rane One soon after they came out. The deck faders from day one skipped and acted as if old and dirty. I know you'll need to send it in for warranty work. The problem is the issue was likely just how it is designed, maybe they fix the issue or most likely the technician would plug in and test the features, and like when we go to the doctor or take a car into the shop things work fine. I would get my controller back doing the same things. I decided to fix the issue myself for mere pennies. And this remained the only issue I would have with my Rane One until the motors went out of sync. Unlike the RANE 12s, they can recalibrate the sync between motors. RANE One doesn't have such a feature. The answer is to send it in to replace the motors. The RANE One looks brand new now and won't stay in sync. Yes, tried all the tips and troubleshooting RANE asked me to try, Serato asked me to do, Virtual DJ asked me to do, and many of the online tips and suggestions in different forums. If anyone knows of a method I can recalibrate my RANE One with, please share it, so I can try it out. I won't sell my RANE One because the repair will be costly for the person buying it. The REV 7 Pioneer technical support answered a question. Can the motors of REV 7 be recalibrated to be in sync when they eventually start to drift? Pioneer answered that the motors are not involved in the movement of the music. The software controls the music and the motors are for tactile interface only. So if the motors start to drift or spin at different speeds, they will not affect the playback of the music. I plan to buy a REV 7 with a 12-Inch Skin vinyl wrap to preserve the finish of the Rev 7. I own a DDJ SX-2 and the finish has worn off on it in places. I want to finish with I love your videos, dedication to providing accurate factual information.
I'm teaching myself to scratch with DJ Shortee's videos and she advises watching the line indicator on your turntable rather than the wavefrom in the software. Very interesting that Carlo doesn't need the line indicator at all!
I would go with the rane-one as i mostly dj with house music and its sub geners but i have a wish to learn scratching. And i think rane-one will the best bang for buck for a beginner.
I wanna see you comparing the REV7 to the 1000/1000SRT since these are also popular, even today. I have never seen you comparing a different model on a same brand, the last one I saw is usually the DDJ-200 vs. 400
Let me save you some time and let you know that the 1000 is better for more normal DJing and mobile use! The REV7 is good for people who really value motorized platters!
I guess I don’t DJ enough because in 6 years since I’ve been using Pioneer controllers and mixers ( SRT 1000, Rev 7, and S9). None of them have ever had faceplate issues.
I don't understand how anybody that's come from playing long sets on turntables and not like the placement of the pitch faders. The placement is perfect. No more nonscience around the platter. Finally a controller that isn't copying all other controllers or CDJs. This controller makes me want to play on it.
A lot of Retro DJs I know don't use the turntables in "battle" orientation, so they've got gripes with the pitch fader placement too! But I'm glad Pioneer did something for the turntablists here!
I added a black sticker wrap around the crossfader area to preserve the faceplate. I like to show the wear and tear on some of my other mixers, like a badge of honor, but not for this haha.
Great review of the two controllers. One thing you said that was incorrect is that the REV7 only works with Serato. It does also work with VirtualDJ Pro, which is what I have been using for years and love over Seeato.
Ah. When this review was released, the mapping to VDJ wasn't out yet I believe. Compatibility started around the same time I released this video, so I couldn't change that anymore
I have accidentally hit the pads on the RANE One decks with my arms/wrists multiple times in the middle of a gig. I prefer the pads on the mixer which is why I’m thinking of getting the Rev 7. I just wish the pitch control was vertical and not horizontal. After a 3 hour set, I wonder how tired my arm would get? Sounds silly but worth considering
Oh, that's LEGIT an issue to consider! Never had that problem with the Rane One myself, but if you did, then I'm sure others out there have also encountered that. Thanks for letting us know about that Brian!
Dropped Pioneer and Serato over 2 years ago. DDJ-SX running Pro on MacBook, had many glitches. Face on mixer & platters did the same as your crossfader. Terrible wear & blemishes. Picked up a Prime4 and never looked back.
I have the Rane One and I'm still stuck to my Numark NS7 III with screens. It's like the Technics SL 1200 MK2 of the controllers, heavy, durable, rock solid. I don't wanna change this. But maybe just try the REV7
Nice review, I’m torn between getting the Rev-7, Rane One, and the DDJ-1000srt. I have a guy who can get me the Rev7 and is going to let me know when it comes in, maybe by the end of this week. I really enjoyed the review Carlo thank you!
@@djcarlo oh ok I will, any advice? I know it’s up to me but if I’m missing out on something, I’d like to know. Oh btw when I asked about the ddj-1000srt he said there’s a new one coming, which I would like but may just wait it out.
I have both the Rane One & Rev7. I also have the Pioneer SX2. The Rane One, a few months in, the pitch is off center on both. It has to be slowed down equally on both sides to get the correct pitch zeroed. Other than that, no issues. I have never had an issue though with any controller I've bought from Pioneer. So, as it stands right now, it's the Rev7 for me, hands down. The pitch controll placement is not a deal breaker for me. This controller gets the job done with no worries about it's future functionality and endurance. Well worth the money.
That's crazy! Sad to hear that the Rane One let you down so quickly. Thanks for doing a comparison though! I do love hearing about other's experiences with their controllers
Almost 6 months in... No problems at all with the Rev7. Very solid controller. Regardless of the price point, I'd definitely recommend it. It's worth that price, especially with the mixer, which is on par with an S9 or S11 Pioneer.
Thank you for the great update DJ Carlo!! I'm a big fan of DDJ-1000SRT and thinking of switching (or perhaps add-on) a REV7. I mostly perform in events and a few gigs here and there. My frequent use are mixes, less on scratches, enjoy entertaining crowds with my 80s collection. Is getting REV7 a life changer? And no, I'm not rich ;)
You peaked my interest regarding the Tidal bit because I also use Tidal for 90% of my DJing. When you mentioned #4, playing offline you said you can play tracks offline provided you downloaded the songs into your offline locker. I didn't think Tidal had that ability yet? Can you elaborate on what you were speaking abou there? I enjoy your videos!!
You can download songs to your off-line locker for listening, But if you want to use those downloaded songs for djing you may have to do a few exploits That are not officially supported by Tidal! But they have been working for me so give it a try if you’re a techie hehe
Well, yes, but it shouldn't be! I mean, I've done that before, but the tape gets scratched off too at some point. Plus, you shouldn't need to put tape in the first place
The rane one is better built than the rev 7 .. the rev 7 has better features… my choice is build over features.. I would like to further add that the Ns7 three was the best turntable controller ever made it was just ahead of its time before software could Work with it across different apps
I feel like the perfect controller for me would be one with the simplicity of the Rane One and the layout of the REV7. I hope one of these companies can come up with something like that in the future!
Same!! I love the simplicity of the Rane, but the mixer is what has me torn with the Rev7. I would even love to see the 72 mixer on the next Rane controller.
I own a Rane One and that may be one of the biggest head scratchers (second only to the One having software fx only) that they didnt at least put the performance pads in the mixer section. I dont mind wherever the pitch fader is, I like both ways just fine. Overall I think I am happy I chose Rane over Rev7, i like pioneer gear but for the price, they often cut many corners that you dont notice until youve become totally familiar with the gear. For 1.9k, I dont want to feel like I can break the controller over my knee. The Rane One will absolutely break your knee. That is hugely important for mobile DJS that desire a quality, yet portable controller. The weight only inconvenienced me one time so far when I was performing at a music festival and couldnt find parking or load in parking near my stage and had to carry my Rane One 4 blocks to the stage lol. Other than that. Absolutely in love with the One.
I'm not a Scratch DJ and I'm feeling very good with ny Denon DJ Prime4. I really don't understand how to mix when the waveforms are shown on different turntables so far away from each other and are very small. On the 10 inch scrreen of the Prime4 that works out really great for me...
Hello I love your update and look forward to a Rev 7 dome day . I believe that Rev7 is now compatible with virtual dj. ATOMIX RELEASE a mapping to be able to use the controller. But men I enjoy your detail. Much love from cameroon 🇨🇲
The Prime 2 will go down as a criminally underrated gem/cult classic now that they’ve discontinued it:( I think maybe they realized they underpriced the Prime 4 at only $300 more and didn’t want to hurt sales of that unit, and since they have the Rane One and the Mixstream and the Prime Go in their stable, maybe they saw the 2 as a redundancy? Idk, I agree with you though, the Prime 2 kinda hits a sweet spot for me. Wish I had scooped one up when I had the chance!
@@mode7beats I was wondering why I couldn't find Prime 2s anywhere. I didn't realized they had discontinued it. Now I really hope they come out with an Engine enable motorized 2 deck unit
@@jerrardbeasley4247 Actually, I should clarify: I based that on some rumors I heard on Reddit that sounded like that was very likely the case, but also Denon has never released an official statement about the 2 being discontinued, and it’s still on the Prime series main page(complete with one of Carlo’s videos!😎). But it looks like they’re definitely pushing the Prime 4 and Prime Go pretty thoroughly while leaving the 2 a bit further out in their marketing focus, from what I can see. So it’s still definitely current gen, but whether they ship any more will be the question…
I'm Just waiting for Rane, Piooneer, Denon or Numark to come with a controller that has decent size platters and stems with volume faders for each stem !!! That would be my game changer !!!!
I think that would be the ultimate god-tier controller! Sounds like an absolute dream come true! Also, a really quick way to empty your wallet hahahaha
Reloop is coming out with controller that doesn't have moving platters but has jog displays with track info (no waveforms) and will be 4 channel with 4 effect paddles and will also have effect knobs that if you use Djay, will turn those into stems knobs with their AI thingy that somehow can make stems out of any track. Personally haven't been a fan of Djay but can't knock some unique features. The controller will support dvs so you could have spinning platters if you hooked turn tables to it. The Mixon 8 I think it is, coming out towards the end of the year. Something you may want to consider, I'm interested in it myself.
The huge problem is that dude lives on click bait titles over substance. No wonder no one wants to send you gear. Keep crying to other reviewers about how no one likes you, because no one does.
I've got my 72/12 rane that I love but ofcourse something more mobile is nice. I may go with the rane 1 for similarity sake. Thanks for the review though. Still thinking.
We've given Pioneer a free pass to deliver subpar equipment for too long now and propped them up to the industry standard. Other manufacturers are giving us more affordable and robustly built gear.
built in effects, less fannying around. whats not to love? depends on what you are playing, if you are a hardcore scratcher, effects are probably not your game. if you are techno / house kinda dj, maybe more on the effects...
Great video, love you stuff! What is the extra device you were using occasionally in this video? I think you were triggering samples from it? A black box with blue pads. Also is it just triggering your Serato sample decks or something else? Thanks for the help!
@@djcarlo thanks for the quick reply! You can see the device at 6:40 . I’ll have a look into the Kontrol x1, but is there anything you’d recommend these days for triggering samples / scratch banks through Serato, with hopefully easy and deep integration? I’m basically trying to provide more buttons for quicker access with my Rane 72. Thanks again!
Thanks Carlo for the video. A question from a Techno/Tech House DJ, is this a good upgrade of an old DDJ-SB2 setup ? It's purely for use in my home studio and while doing small gigs (50-100 people). I have had turntables from 1998 to 2006, I do know a little bit of scratching and I'm sort of willing to go back and implement some scratching in my livesets. I just need to know if it's a good upgrade for Techno/Tech House. There isn't much stock lately and from my sources at Pioneer DJ, there won't be much stock in the next 8-12 months either. I ám willing to put 1800-2000 euro into it.
If you're going for generally tech house and techno, the DDJ 1000 would be a better upgrade if you can find stocks of it. I'd say the REV7 would've been good if you really scratched a lot, but since you only do a little bit, it would just be a very costly controller with features you may not need :)
Thank you Carlo for the in-depth-comparison video. I really appreciate it. I've been waiting for the longest time butI now understand why you took this long to upload this. I would really love to go REV-7 but space and price wise, it's a real challenge for me. And Djay pro AI latest integration is really up to the game and for that I can live with Rane ONE. I'm not bargain for any controllers yet but I'm still waiting and hoping for NUMARK's 4 channel Mixstream controller with engine OS display builtin. Anyway, I really enjoyed the video. Thank you!
I have a gut feeling that The One MKII is going to be a real game changer. Taking into account the direction that InMusic is going, i'm thinking the next rendition of The One is going to be a standalone unit with WiFi streaming... a cross between a Mixstream Pro & Prime 2 with motorized platters w/ A-Trak'ish Seventy mixer section...Cherry on top, make it DJay Pro compatible & they'll have a Rev7 killer.
Great Tutorial, i have sell my Rane One, but want to Comeback to Her lol, Solid Steel yes, Very Professionnal, But Effects On Pioneer are Better, Of course The Magnificent Reverb, also a larger space To do With the Decks, so i don't know if i comeback to my Rane One Or buy The DDJ, very difficult, i think i will do with feeling, instinction, cause That Two Controlers are the Best Actually, Thank you again :)
Haha very common with their mixers also wear on the face plate , they have never sorted that out and yes Rev pitch position is madness near the buttons it will slow your work flow lol
Thanks for the update i own the rane 1 and its a definite scratchers tank. That thing is a battleship and well worth the money its super dope. i just ordered the rev 7 and i know one thing im going to like is the mixer and fx section since i own a s9 and s11 cant wait to check those platters out. i do a lot of setups for djs so adding the rev 7 should be a great asset but I may keep it close to me at first lol thanks again for the awesome review.
in 10 2023 what are our options for a moving platter? and what about Stems in 2023 with these units? DAm I have only used rekordbox and was leaning toward rev7 upgrading for my mobile DJ setup
Pioneer being Pioneer….i got the feeling they’ll come up with the mid-range of the REV…like REV5..n then the highest model maybe called REV10…. the REV7 is not perfect yet to my eyes…it has it flaws…we’ll see..but i agreed with everything u said about the controllers…
On Amazon The rain one has better reviews then the Rev 7. But I think it's simply because anybody looking to buy these controllers are probably coming from a controller so the rain one has the standard controller layout versus the rev7 has a battle style turntable mixer layout. The visual display on the rev7 really doesn't matter to most DJs who are good DJs because they never look down at that information. If you're coming from vinyl there is no center screen display so that part doesn't really impress or unimpress the average DJ. As far as durability who cares that the controller gets scratched up near the fader. Maybe that's a user error. Having the built-in effects is a plus for me but the flexibility of software would be best if you're working for an entertainment company and you have several different DJs that use different software. So it all comes down to functionality and use. If you're the only one using your DJ controller I would suggest getting the rev7, however if you're buying a controller for a company and most of your DJs already DJ on controllers anyway then I suggest getting the Rane One.
I currently use ddj-sx2 and am debating what to buy next. I have a ddj1000-srt on order notification and rev-7 from sweetwater! It’s been months and months. I could not live with faceplate wear for sure. Worried about rev 7 long term durability. I Dj mostly weddings and mobile events. I might just purchase the SRT if it ever comes in stock
As long as you don't go too hard on the crossfader (which I'm sure won't be too much of a problem at weddings), then you should be alright. Sweetwater should be having them soon though!
I own both controllers I prefer the Rane One I’m selling my Rev 7 I test it out for an hr and I didn’t enjoy playing on it I reboxed it and put it away in storage
While you are worrying about the face paint & advertising Tidal, I am more concerned about the cramped mixer layout of the rane one, after using it for a year in the club 4 nights a week catching filters with fingers or the effects paddles I can say I don’t care about the paint Also the after 14 months I need the LPF/HPF pot repaired and I have a sticky cue 1 button on the right deck so the build quality is not as it should be The rane one is cool, but the mixer layout is too small
We all have different priorities when it comes to our gear (and come one man, this video is so much more than sharing the benefits of Tidal!), but interesting review on the Rane One. Admittedly, real world use is a very different scenario than use solely in the studio.
“… after using it for a YEAR IN THE CLUB 4 NIGHTS A WEEK…” 👆🏼 You should expect repairs working in such an environment. Smoke environmentals, drinks, abuse, etc. will wreak havoc on any equipment including the legendary 1200 turntables. Don’t blame Rane’s build quality for your minor repair needs.
@@gaffle-411 Not after 13 months, top end professional equipment should last longer than average consumer controllers Rane gear used to last much longer, since InMusic bought them over the build quality has dropped 850hrs use for a product before it needs repairs isn’t a good look for Rane, I should know, I owned the original TTM57sl, the 57mk2, the Rane 72 & The Rane 12’s
@@djcarlo i recently got a ddjsz2, i am a mobile wedding guy and i have not seen this same issue with it nor know anyone else who has. Also, my s9 started wearing out but i slapped a skin on it and now i cant see it. Out of sight, out of mind lol
Dj carlo i would like to see you make a video of using turntables playing vinyl connected to rev7. I like that effects are built into mixer and wana see how they work with real vinyl. I would lke a rev7 for my bedroom and would be nice to listen to my vinyls through it.
What about the xfader curve and dead space of the rev7? The rane1 curve is rubbish (not sharp enough) and the lag cannot be reduced to 0mm (adding additional washers is required).
Just wanted to ask you two questions please reply 1. When I buy pioneer DJM- S11 do I get searto control vinyl ? 2. After buying pioneer DJM - S11 how to activate searto pro do we get licenses key or something or else 🤔 I have first download a trial version of searto pro and connect the mixer ? It will automatically get full version of searto pro ? Please response 🙏 I really want to know Sorry my English is bad 😅 hope you understand
Nope! Getting an S11 will get you, well, the S11, and you'll need to buy the control vinyl separately. But, it should allow you to use Serato DJ Pro for free from what I recall.
When it comes to the crossfaders, pioneer has a better fader imo.. I have the s11 and it feels WAY more responsive and smoother than the rane one and tbh it makes scratching not ass enjoyable on the rane one. Also, the sound that comes out the rane one is mediocre
@@kingsleyrussell348 haha it’s so funny when people who have zero clue wtf they’re talkin about make dumb comments like this. I’ve literally used every brand & type of DJ gear & i’ve never heard such incredible sound out of the master output as the Rane One has!!!
Not really feeling the Rev 7 due to price. Ideally a 2 channel upgraded version of XZ with bigger CDJ platters. Lower price point. It’s due for an upgrade. The 4 channels is overkill on the XZ tbh.
He Carlo, it,s a nice video but the dj,s of these days are spoiled with the gear, when i started with DJ you have a choice between Belt Drive turntable and Motorized (Technics SL1200MK2) so i learned the first 8 years of my dj career on Belt Drive turntables and that was really tough so for me is the Denon SC6000M is the Unique and the best digital DJ deck there is ever made (and played on Pioneer CDJ500, 100's, 800 MK1 and MK2 and 1000 MK1, MK2 and MK3, CDJ900 and CDJ900 Nexus, CDJ2000, CDJ2000 Nexus and NXS2 and now sometimes play on cdj3000 by a friend but the Denon wins loads faster than the cdj3000's sounds better more options but all of that still loving always to play with vinyl my dj set is a Pioneer DJM900NXS2, 3x Technics SL1210GR and 3x Denon SC6000M for me as Techno DJ and my love for Drum&Bass is a Third deck important and for 26years playing with 3 decks is that a standard for me to have, but a controller for me is no go and is not to trust to djing with a controller for a night than they are disappointed gear
Thanks for the honest feedback there! Come to think of it, I don't always enjoy displays in the middle of jog wheels simply because they get hot sometimes.
so confused??? so they put all the hardware and processing so that you can use it with out a computer for the built in sample use BUT even tho they put all hardware they dont allow a standalone feature for mixing with a computer???? that makes no sense at all????????? why even put the hardware for off computer use , if your not going to allow it to be used with out a computer
Hmmm, not quite! If it were to be a standalone, you'll need a proper interface. The little screens in the middle aren't touch sensitive, so using them while they're turning won't be possible. It actually lacks a number of features for it to be a standalone Mike
@@djcarlo thanks for the response. . still kinda weird. .you need a pretty hefty processor for real life vinly emulation . .so seems extremely off that they would go thru all the effort build this hard ware in but not give a way/ a interface to use in a standalone. .if has the ability to scratch loaded samples its certainly capable . .who knows maybe they will add a interface screen addon in the future?
@@djcarlo they must have introduced it shortly after I dropped the service! That was literally the only reason I dropped it. The sound quality and song selection options are awesome!! Im so excited!
@@djcarlo nothing gets designed for scratching. It may get advertised as such thing, but no company would design for abuse in mind. Do you remember the old-vinyl-days? What happened to the vinyls? They got destroyed! So when you are complaining about the wear and tear, you clearly forgot what was happening only a few years ago
Not you specifically, because you are just doing reviews here, and I get that you pointed that out, but anyone else who would just use it, shouldn’t complain, since they still would save a lot of money
2:15 Did anyone else notice the delay between the hand/disc movements on the scratch disc, and the wave form display in the center of the platter? 😵💫 I've seen the same thing in other review/test videos.
Been using mine for 2 weeks and scratches on the faceplate is starting to build up and to be honest I'm not even scratching hard since I'm a beginner when it comes to scratching. What I did is always make sure that my nails are cut to the point that it doesn't touch the plate and put some tape to cover the lower part of the mixer. lol
I don't know if it'll work but maybe you can apply some flex seal or something else to cover that area. You would have to reapply it from time to time but it should stop the color from fading
I owned a Rane one and the first days I liked it until I brought it to a gig im a club dj and the mic just wasn’t sounding good on the Rane one I tried everything I even reached out to friends that had the Rane one and asked them for advice and no help I just kept getting feedback w the mic, so I bought the rev 7 and haven’t had a problem with it yet
And to speak on Tidal, I love how you can add songs into a folder using the software. However, the songs just don’t load as reliably as beatsource. If beatsource could allow you to add a song on the fly from the computer it would perfect.
Right! I wasn't able to do a full review, but I will mention that on my year end DJ Gear video. I appreciate the battle set up, but it just doesn't make any sense without a tone arm in the way
