The Truth About Voting By Mail & Election Fraud | LegalEagle’s Real Law Review 

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Im going to vote by nothing because im 16

I live in Colorado. We do all of our elections by mail-in ballots. The percentage of suspect ballots is a rounding error away from zero.

I'm a left-wing social justice warrior. I don't vote, the DNC already voted for me and I just obey.

They had to throw out 20% of the votes in Paterson New Jersey, so why exactly is it strange to think that voting by mail is not safe? imagine 20% of the votes thrown out on national scale? There would be carnage. Also, there is a big difference between vote by mail and absentee ballots. Absentee ballots have to be requested and are thus tracked, while mail-in ballots go to everyone and are much harder to track, also Dr.Fauchi, who is one of the top experts on cornona virus has said that voting in person is completely safe so long as safety protocols are followed. www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/politics/paterson-new-jersey-city-council-voter-fraud/index.html www.businessinsider.com/fauci-says-in-person-election-with-distancing-masks-is-safe-2020-8

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To be fair, "lying" implies that Trump knows the truth and is deliberately saying the opposite thereof. Is it technically a "lie" if Trump is just an ignorant fool talking out of his ass? Flip a coin.

Not exactly lying has to be intentional. And if you accuse someone of lying you got to prove they were deliberately misleading people. Hence why "strictly speaking Not Factual" is such a powerful phrase. Because it neither accuses of deliberate misleading nor takes it off the table for the jury.

@@SaiyanHeretic That's the problem with Trump. He rarely lies, he just never understands whenever people tell him he is wrong, so he keeps telling the same... untruth... without ever lying!

@@sebastianlavallee706 When he realizes that even Fox viewers know he is lying, he just starts saying the opposite in a way that is still lying.

He's not saying to vote just not mail in but in person.

Exactly. Vote red.

@@chrisscott1402 vote red but not for trump hes an idiot

Dont vote for a group, vote for the value of the elected. Vote whom best represents you, not whom best can manipulate you. No one side is good, no one side is bad they both have an area where they share the same ideas, so why not just come together stop the hate, hate breeds hate. ☯

@@elysainempire4628 not everyone can vote in person

It’s called a clown’s living room. If we tried, we could do it.

considering he's a billionaire, I think he's only used to big ass living rooms.

@@tescomealdeals4613 yeah, my first thought was basically 'has he ever seen a normal person's living room?' and then I realized the answer is probably no and got too depressed to keep thinking about it

@@qatonfire7476 yah, it was kinda sad, most presidential candidates have never seen a working class person's house, in fact, they actually did a video where they showed a working class home to one of the presidential candidates from 2016 (I forgot which one) and the shock on their face when they realized the size of the house, their jaw literally dropped.

@@tescomealdeals4613 I remember that! I think it was Hillary. I just remember the look of horror and disgust 😂

@Think Different Yeah instead of thinking differently this person just posts multiple quotes in the comments 🎣 for likes. I saw your Euripides and Bonaparte quotes. Not very original or thought provoking at all LOL

Mail in voting is safer digital voting. If you compromise 1 mail-in vote that is one mail-in vote affected. If you compromise one digital vote, you're more likely to be able to affect all votes. So inherently digital voting systems are actually less safe from attacks. Tampering with physical voting is a linear style attack. You have to put the same amount of effort into each vote. Temporary digital votes is a non-linear style. For each successful tampering it requires less and less effort to compromise subsequent votes

@@natasha8614 I think it's a fair assumption to think that you'll find some crazy/stupid people in the internet. Doing stupid things in the public forum like this. For some they're thought provoking and for others it's just dumb. We all don't have same level of intelligence, I guess. You don't need to make fun of them, do you? Or feeling entitled to tell them what they should do with their time and life.

@@mnm1273 "Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." -king Tut "Pride goes before destruction" -Satan "Most people have too much pride to admit they've played themselves, its part of the sunk cost fallacy" -Me, high AF

@@broodypie2216 for last one 😂😂😂. “Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.” ― Daniel J. Boorstin

I'm interested (even though I'm a dude)

Gotta admit, he thicc

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he had a freudian slip looking at the underwear models

@@CathrineMacNiel I have an onlyfans.

I'm an Italian citizen and I know a hell lot more about the American constitution than I know about the Italian one. Sad statement. Anyways, I still can't vote.

@@fernandoestmoi Thats just because Americans literally can't stop talking about the constitution.

In 2008 it likely would have had the same effect in the US.

I moved to Oregon about 10 years ago. I was pleasantly surprised when I was automatically registered when I went to get my new ID and delighted when I learned about vote by mail.

Is it nice, yes. Is it easy as hell to rig? Also yes.

@@thinkinginsidethebox6552 Please provide evidence.

Every time I hear something about Oregon it convinces me more that it's a beautiful state, and probably of the best to live in.

That's because Oregon is a decent state run by decent people and more interested in allowing it's people to vote rather than rigging the election so that one party always wins we many red states do (and this is a view from the outside, from the UK, although I've been to Oregon a number of times and find the state and the people who live there very welcoming whatever political views they have).

boy howdy

I’m no fan but I think Biden wins this one. I think Trump will fight the results tooth and nail. However, if Biden loses, I expect recounts and whatnot, but I don’t think it’ll be nearly as ugly as the scene I expect Trump to make.

Without a doubt. If its close there will be demand for recount from the President's side.

As a Belgian i will know repeat the quote from alien vs predator -Whoever wins, we lose Clinton vs Trump was just plain awefull... Biden doesnt show any promise for anyone here. And we all know trump so...

@@dr.floridamanphd It'll most likely be a really close race!

The sausage sizzle is always good - extra onion! I agree this whole thing seems stupid and so easy to fix by requring that everyone 'vote' and have their name ticked off - heck even make it a public holiday. For those that talk about freedom, you only have to get your name ticked off. You can literally throw the ballet paper in the bin on your way out if you want (or put it in the voting box not filled out).

All that and you somehow still ended up with ScoMo...

U S A! U S A! U S A! As the American stranglehold on oil becomes less relevant with renewables and the world's reliance on our manufacturing due to WWII finally recedes and people decide to make deals without us as they look at leaders like Trump, our economic dominance will slide and we will finally see how corrupt and simply stupid our country is. But we will still have on hell of a military, bad times ahead for the world.

@haiironezumi - Congratulations on living in a country that is more civilized than the USA when it comes to voting and gun control. (Neither of us have any reason to be proud of how we have treated our indigenous and enslaved populations, though.)

@@aze94 Just because people can vote does not mean they will make a good vote.... On the upside he seems to be quite unpopular due to the year of hell so yeah I doubt he will be around after the next election.

So verification worked that only one ballot would have been accepted because they checked. Sounds like despite the mailing error the vote record was correct based on the registration roll verification.

@@br0k3nman there are plenty of states that haven't checked their rolls, never had a need to. A real live person can't vote twice in person. You think this example was good because they "checked"? So what if that "extra" ballot gets filled out and returned first by someone else? Where is the check on that? If you can go to the store, you can go vote.

@@notmyrealname3462 And show an ID when you do.

@@notmyrealname3462 you can’t vote once by mail & once by person either. If you filled out a mail ballot the system recognizes that when you are checked in & you will be turned away...(or when the ballot is input if it’s mail). if you want to show up in person, you need to then cancel the mail ballot. This was actually a thing on Twitter where a guy cropped the photo to make it look like his vote was cancelled, but it was canceled because he physically went to vote. There are also audits of all states voting records & a double security number raises a red flag, that person is now liable for charges & an investigation will be done. This is why states have so many weeks to investigate & confirm votes. If by some miracle the double vote wasn’t caught at the polls (they usually are) then both votes will be canceled & if that person has no committed fraud they will be allowed to correct that ballot.

@@notmyrealname3462 which are the plenty of states that haven't checked their rules and how do you know your information is correct?

It should be this way across the country. Hopefully someday soon

@@AskMia411 Never. More than half of eligible voters never vote. That leaves available for fraud, all the other ballots

"Pro Boner", but the "r" is silent.

@@EatMyFist777 Plenty of Pro Boners.. try asking around a meat packing plant.

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Andrew Blanchard That’s hypothetically racist

@@andrewblanchard2398 Or, 'Quid Pro Ho'. Especially if it's a 5 person group.

You can’t give someone permission to break the law. So I doubt his hyperbole would be used as a legitimate defense.

@@dr.floridamanphd but kidnapping is only crime as it is without permission. The question here is would prior permission having been given count? Hard to tell. But it's like how hitting someone is assault and a crime, but with prior permission it's just kinky

E Bishop, if you kidnap someone it’s done without consent. You’re right that if you hit someone without permission it’s a crime, but with permission it’s kinky. But if I shoot someone, even with permission and in a non-lethal area, that’s still assault with a deadly weapon. Some things you can’t rationalize away.

Bro I stopped caring about Martin years ago. Sanderson, now there's an author who actually works for a living.

It would be kidnapping if at any point during it he expressed that he was not willing to carry it out.

I will (not) be stripping

Go to horny jail

Bonk

What about your split wig?

Richy Cartels my sister is a barrister - she actually has a white curly wig to wear in court.

He's married. Sorry.

In Canada, even if you have to work, the employer has, by law, to give you three hours to go vote or, if time issues, the whole day off.

In addition, there is nearly no queue to vote at the polling station as there are many of them and very near. There is also no need to register to receive a ballot as ballot are automatically send to where you live using the data of the state of where you live. In fact a copy of the ballot can be used as a document to prove where your live. The way you know that you have turn 18 is when you receive a Ballot. I understand that organizing election for a country that is as big as the US is difficult, however I'm wondering if the US even try to improve theire system.

How do poll workers vote? Turn in their ballots when they go on shift?

Sam Tito Yup, or vote in advance by mail.

Here in brazil election day is a holiday

Civics is so important

The Dept. of Education removed the mandatory civics class that used to be taught in 8th grade. In fact many school districts would not allow you to graduate unless you finished this course. The left which controls the Dept of Education does not want people to know how the government works or for people to know their rights. This allows the progressives to more easily manipulate and indoctrinate the ignorant youth when they do not know these things. The Dept of Education also removed the mandatory course in home economics, so that the youth would not learn how to manage a budget, use credit, file taxes, and other general take care of yourself once you are an adult kind of things so that the left can instead get people to rely on the government to do these things for them.

Good thing I know what the cells in a leaf look like though, right?

True but most people don't care to retain or learn the information. In my area it's required to graduate to take a government and economic class both with end of the year projects. Yet the amount of people who don't know simple concepts after the courses are high af. Even if you give it to everyone some people just don't care to learn it therefore they wouldn't.

@ALSO-RAN ! I actually went on to get a biology degree and work in a science field now, but I still call it absurd to expect everyone to study the variety of subjects in public schools. I mean if there were time and they had interest, sure a basic working knowledge is great...but not at the cost of learning valuable understandings that allow someone to function in our culture. Mortgage payments, voting rights, marriage law and tax calculations? Nah...they can figure all that out on the fly, let's make sure we go over circle math for an entire year it'll make kids "smarter". >_>;

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stlkngyomom explain this to me like I’m 5 please do you support the comment or do you hate it

@Think Different Still posting various quotes in the comments 🎣 for likes instead of thinking originally? Cool. Here's one "They can imitate your style not but your creativity".

@@stlkngyomom I liked your comment dude. Found it thought provoking, a good balance to the original thought provoking comment. Together it's about, fools are fools, and generally will stay foolish, because they would have to destroy something about themselves, their ignorance, to gain knowledge. The quote also says America doesn't want to end ignorance, while (I perceive) hints that the reason America stays ignorant is because of fear- fear of that change. Of destroying something very ingrained, even if it's nonproductive

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Essentially, a lot of systems here in the U.S. are archaic holdovers from the past 200+ years that are maintained for various reasons (political malarchy, hyper conservatism, change-resistant cultural norms, etc.). Many people here, mostly of the older White demographic, in the States fear and actively work against change because of an unfounded fear of disenfranchisement. Ironic, considering that many refuse to acknowledge just how privileged they are until such benefits might be shared with "them," and even then they hide behind lies and excuses so they don't have to admit they don't want people who aren't like them having the same rights and freedoms.

In Canada we're registered when we pay taxes, and we're allowed paid time off to go vote. And we can mail in votes. Because we actually care about democracy instead of trying to manipulate the system as much as possible to favor one side (no paid time off so only those who can afford to vote can vote, closing polling stations early, chopping up districts to make favorable outcomes, having fewer poll stations than is necessary for a given area, making it extremely difficult to advance vote or vote remotely, etc)

I live in Brazil, and we consider voting not just a right, but an obligation. That means that if your voting situation is irregular, there are a lot of things you can't do, like enter University or get a passport. People complain that voting shouldn't be compulsory but seeing as you can absolutely show up on the day and annul your vote, I think it's a better alternative than actively trying to suppress voting. Your power as a citizen to elect your government officials is the cornerstone of any democracy. Trying to suppress that right is a crime against democracy itself.

@@liv97497 That is definitely an interesting view on voting and a good way to handle it because that's right: It is a social obligation as much as a right and a way to participate in shaping your society. Thank you for sharing, I didn't know anything about the Brazilian perspective!

Switzerland here. Nearly everyone votes by mail. Polling stations are only open for 2-4 hours. Where I live it's even just one hour. They really don't expect people to go there in person. First results are expected at noon, because of course they count the mail in votes beforehand. We can vote every for months always on a sunday. The documents get send to you by mail and you send it back in the same envelope.

You mean they charge for it?

Question: can the US postmaster general modify the system to re-route mail from specific zip code areas, destined to the election offices, and tag it for immidiate destruction?

@@PandemoniumMeltDown I don't think so, they are not sorted by machines, he would have to convince a lot of really low level employees with a strong union to commit felonys

@@crowely3034 Not automated, really?

@@PandemoniumMeltDown i can only really speak about my city i suppose. But every easily noticeable ballot is addressed to city hall. No reason to send to a sorting facility that's over an hour away, when it dosent have to leave the city

@@crowely3034 I see, thank you for your info my good sir.

@John Frylock you mean absentee, he requested it because he works out of state, duh.

Its a matter of scale, absentee balloting does not happen on the same scale so the deficiencies in its design is not as relevant as it would be if everyone got ballots sent to them.

@@Makrillo I guess the deficiency would be the vulnerability of mail-in voting to a corrupt postmaster general who tries to suppress voting by slowing down the entire postal system. Otherwise, it works really well. Speaking as someone who has been using the mail-in system for 20 years. Actually, the one drawback we've had in a past was the lack of return postage, since it can be hard for people to get a single stamp. This year, all the ballots come with prepaid return postage, so that's no longer a problem. Even in the past, I sometimes mailed my ballot, and sometimes dropped it off into a ballot box at the library, or county building. Which brought up another question, as Portland (and other cities) have growing homeless populations. I just looked that up, and it's possible to register to vote using a shelter, park, or the office of the county clerk, if a voter lacks a residence. So, that deficiency has been addressed as well.

CCP inspired mischief

@@jumboshrimp_2234 but he legally doesn't live in Florida, he spends only 2-3 days(max) a week there, his literal home should be the White House. Isn't the description something about having to spend 51% of your time somewhere? So it should be mail-in voting.

That’s insane! I hope it’s not happening where I live.

Good for you, but how many people didn't check to see if their absentee ballot had been received, and how many other dead people's "votes" got counted?

They have had these issues all over with the unsolicited ballots. Not so much absentee ballots, as not everyone gets them

I just wonder how many people weren't aware their ballot had been stolen or how many dead people stores didn't get caught.

How exactly were you able to confirm your dead father voted?. I work for Runbeck elections here in AZ and I need to address this with the right people immediately if thats the case. We have an extremely stringent process. Additionally if mail is stolen from your mailbox then that also needs to be reported. Probably best not to post a litany of political propaganda outside of one's house if that's a concern... even I don't trust leaving a ballot in my mailbox. Sorry but the only true thing I believe is mail theft from your physical mail box in front of your house and if you're rural like me in Buckeye there aren't too many mailboxes outside of official postal boxes where anything can be sent out anyways.

I was thinking it was because your Governor is a Democrat, but so is Nevada’s. So there goes that idea. Is there any difference between what your state and Nevada are doing?

@@dr.floridamanphd Nevada votes Republican for the president, New Jersey votes Democrat. Governor affiliations don't mean much to Trump.

We're all next to be sued for voting against our dear leader.

Folks, I have seriously been stressing about whether or not my vote will ever be counted first, based on Russian tampering, and adding to that now just what Trump will be willing to do 2 our election process. For one thing, my signature doesn't look the same always and that has me worried after 68 years I've never having anything like that occur to me before. And we've got a president who would cripple the US Post Office because of his fear of mail in voting! Never mind people not getting checks and people not getting prescription medicine and so much more human suffering. And you hire a guy because he essentially paid enough to get a job from you and he gets an added bonus of squelching the competition to his businesses from delivery services. I want to do mail-in voting but I'm worried about signature match now. How will he camper with the signature matchers? Also how is it that Ivanka Trump can put her own voting machines into our election?

I have a few trumpster friends, most notably someone who has been closed since we were both in our twenties and now we are both in our 60s. We have an understanding then our friendship is not worth damaging due to political points of view. However, in the last month he has tried twice to get me do you think of trump in a friendly way, or so it seemed to me, by talking about our getting stimulus checks. It really blow me away that he started talking politics. He called me recently and started the phone call with, so this might be the last election where voting in and then he mumbled something about dictator. I will be following up on this but I want to do it very carefully. My only hope is that he's starting to get the stakes.

Because money, that’s about it lol

It's not that you lose the right to vote so much as they remove your name from the registry and then don't inform you. If you found out and re-registered before the cutoff, you'd be able to vote, but you'd also have to check to make sure that you were no longer registered

@@twixieshores That's just as bad with the same outcome.

The people who would vote to make that illegal can't vote anymore.

@@twixieshores Georgia's voter purge happened after the registration deadline so none of those people could re-register

If what you're saying is true (which having voted a few times in my life seems very suspect) fraud exists everywhere. No one is saying voter fraud NEVER happens. It's just not the widespread issues losers (or people who are afraid of losing) make it out to be.

@@silentj624 it’s hard to tell.. in my instance I obviously complained to the very nice poll workers but nothing happened. There was no follow up, I was never contacted by anyone.. They allowed me to fill out an absentee ballot (2012) but I’m not sure if it was even counted .. not trying to be conspiratorial, it’s just weird when something like that happens to you and then the world says it doesn’t happen ..

@@mackretro1961 voter fraud just doesn’t happen as widespread as the right makes it out to happen. There have been very few instances. Poll workers give up a lot of their time to get training and give up a few days of their life for no reason other than they believe in our democracy. It’s difficult to know exactly what happened in your situation but various mistakes could have happened. It is possible that the poll worker didn’t ask for an ID (but that’s not very likely since poll workers are trained) it is possible that someone else whose name was on the list right above or right below you voted and poll workers accidentally checked off your name instead of theirs. Poll workers are human and mistakes are possible. As long as we continue to have people processing ballots (which I think people prefer people run polls instead of have technology do it) the idea that human error can happen must be accepted. If something like this ever happens again you should call your Secretary of State and let them know that poll workers are not being careful, perhaps they can receive more training if enough people complain. Another option for you to help prevent voter fraud is for you to volunteer to be a poll worker yourself.

@@mackretro1961 I am sure it does happen to a small extend. nobody is denying that. and your case is also very different from what is described by trump. you were voting in person.

@@Landad_ "230 pages of affidavits seems widespread" No it does not. You don't know what's in the affidavit, it could simply point out irregularities, or instances which could have seemed suspicious, which obviously will happen in any endevour of this scale. I mean you had around 150 million votes cast with thousands and thousands of people involved in processing of those votes, and you had observes who really really wanted to see their side winning and thus highly sensitive to anything which(often in retrospect and with enough encouragment) could have seem out of ordinary. The difference this time is you have a person who projected himself as someone who never loses who clearly lost, who yells fraud(everytime he does lose), and encourages people to report anything suspicious, however silly it seems. That's not an indication of wide spread fraud, that's grasping at straws. How many pages do you believe Democrats could have got the last election if they yelled fraud and started collecting affidavits of "stuff which seemed suspect" ? 0 ?

But both never exist in the same space-time.

Dunno, there was a cut, not a smooth pan, I see no proof here...

Leg-al Eagle?

The truth being, "rabidly conservative think tank."

Can we drop the terms "conservative" and "liberal"? They're a rabidly Republican think tank.

“Very reactionary think tank” is a much more accurate description.

I heard the word heritage associated with a conservative group and I audibly groaned. Are my fears correct? Are they pro-Confederacy?

Even a "fairly conservative" think tank, fails at being a think tank. "Think tank" was parlance for research group, a body of thinkers attempting to answer a question. By being "fairly conservative," they begin with not inherent bias but presuppositions that will lead to confirmation bias. It's a bit like a for-profit charity. Could such a thing exist? In theory. Are there many problems that would prevent it's existence by it's own attributes? Most definitely. (To be clear, a "fairly liberal" think tank would have the same problems. Think tanks are meant to non-partisan and pursue truthful answers without reservation, any outside bias affecting those answers will figuratively poison the well.)

I am so so very sorry to hear of your dad's death. I hope you and your family are doing okay and that you make a point of remembering the good things when you get together and I'm sure you do

youre lying

It’s not inherently wrong but it’s being used as a political tool in this instance. It’s also not established on a large scale in this country so the infrastructure is questionable at best. There’s a huge potential for fraud because it’s being so hastily thrown together.

@@Jasper118 What are you talking about "... _the infrastructure is questionable at best_ ."? Even if every citizen in America voted by mail it would still be less than the USPS delivers every year during the Christmas rush (and it would be easier, since ballots don't cross state lines nearly as much); and the ballots are counted by the same voting machines used to count in-person ballots. The only political tool in play here is using this manufactured distrust as an excuse to deny people access to a voting option they've always had.

Can you check your vote status and verify your vote ? Make sure no else voted for you also ?

@@BoojumFed The mail-in Ballots are the issue themselves. They are not verified, can not be traced, no reference system per individual. One could fill out 100 ballots and hit the post office. and that is what will happen. 500 million votes from the 120 million plus registered voters. No system to quickly rectify and validate. Not one per voter. Not created per individual. And... Dems want no signature verification ? We people can stop the nonsense by voting in person as we always have. Take their political game and call them the losers, no matter who wins.

Ah yes, Switzerland, the country that is most comparable to the US in terms of size and population in reference to voting and the structure thereof.

The version I used when responding to lying tech support callers was "Actually, that turns out not to be the case."

You forgot "Void where prohibited." 😁

i was thinking the same thing he has a video of him just rambling on with no actual data or any kind of supporting evidence to back either side of this clearly if doing you're research will show that he is speaking recklessly about a subject that he has not done the proper research on or even worse with holding the factual evidence that can easily be found proving that what he is trying to promote that fraud in mail in voting is a extremely flawed and unsafe way to vote and what he is doing buy not presenting the facts of this matter is dangerous and reckless and he should be ashamed of himself for not being honest that or not having done the research to properly educate him self before trying to then educate other's who may take his word's as truth and not question him like a normal person who thinks for there self just a shameful thing to see from legal eagles channel

@@johncalia8598 That's not at all what my comment was about... It was a joke and clearly you didn't get it! Let me explain. His phrase "This is strictly speaking Not Factual" is an euphemism, which means it's a more gentle and soft way of saying "It's wrong". So, to mock his use of euphemism - which is clearly a habit he developed as a lawyer - I rephrased what he said using an extreme amount of euphemism. This comment is also an euphemism. I could have simply replied "woooosh!"

@@johncalia8598 You forgot the period at the end of your "sentence."

Or John Oliver's story on it from Last Week Tonight a while ago

Electronic voting can be safe but no one wants to put in the time, effort, or money to do so.

@@darkstorminc because it has to be unsafe we win? the security issues were way overblown We lose? The DNC/GOP is colluding with Russian hackers to swing the election this only works if the hackers are russian, china pays us too much and europeans are pretty close internet wise

In the UK it was proposed that to vote one should present official photo ID. In the UK this means driving license or passport. Guess what, lots of people don't have these ID. Mostly poor people. I suppose that's what you want right?

@@mtop6867 *Turn in voter registration form* "Please step to the side to have the picture taken for your voter ID." *Click* -Done- Voter registration is already required. Asking someone to turn it in to a local government office and take a picture isn't unreasonable in the slightest.

The COVID pandemic is no worse than the flu. So, if you are afraid of any virus, sign up for mail-in voiting. If you are not afraid, go to the polls. This whole COVID thing should not stop anybody from going to the polls.

@@AudraT lol ok and the earth is flat

@@AudraT Tell that to all the dead frontline health workers and all the people who have lost grandparents to covid. It's not the 2 or even 1% fatality rate, it's the fact that it can hit 320 million people (in the US) that's the problem. Even at 0.1% fatality, that's still 320,000 dead. 9-11 killed 3,000.

@@AudraT this logic is why the US is banned from going to any other country right now... 😂

Cscuile if you can go to the store to buy stuff you can go to vote

Hey! That's pretty interesting. I remember some folks at my school were working on something like that. Is there any site where you share your work?

@academic42 - Since he will likely not see this post, perhaps you could send him a postcard?

@@MossyMozart no! mail in commenting is too insecure!! you MUST tell him in person!

@@JorgeRamirez-dv5nn If you want a check out some professional solutions, You can check out the ReadMe of "electionguard" on microsoft's open source github.

@jbaz77777 -- given you have no idea what our research concluded, which of our conclusions do you not trust? The research project was ACCURATE, and was sponsored by the National Science Foundation. And for the most part, ACCURATE's conclusions can be summed up as "all existing 'secure electronic voting' solutions are thirty-one kinds of hot mess, with some very narrow exceptions." Just FYI.

It's a "No U R" argument

Thats "Dark Star Phenomenology" Look it up, Love that Bomb 20...

It could be worse... *it could've been the Chewbacca defense*

_"there's no evidence that there's not either."_ Heh, heh. That doesn't surprise me in the slightest, because that's the response I often get from Christians when I ask them for evidence - just *one piece of good evidence* - that their god exists. "Well, there's no evidence that he doesn't!" My point is that the GOP is faith-based, not evidence-based. There's a reason why evangelical Christians are - along with white supremacists - among Trump's biggest fans. Reality is whatever they _want_ it to be. And if you don't _care_ what the truth is, if you don't _care_ to distinguish reality from delusion and wishful-thinking, then you're not going to care about the evidence. It's that simple.

It's actually much worse than that. You could argue "innocent until proven guilty" for the murder, and "better safe than sorry" for the mail. However, *there is evidence that there isn't widescale mail in voter fraud. We've been doing it for decades.*

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@SLCPunked I'll take the case!

Julia Belyung Keyleth? Is that you?

Same in Greece. You are automatically registered at 17 and you can go to your polling place with your state provided ID and vote. Voting day is a national holiday and it's usually a Sunday. It is mind boggling that there's a country that actively tries to suppress the vote

He’s a Lawyer. Lies are relative to power.

@@CultofThingswell aren't you a ray of sunshine XD

He's obviously decidedly anti-Trump. Biased channel, at least when it comes to politics.

@@Fortaz107 To be fair, the truth has a well-known liberal bias.

@@Fortaz107 how?

They also have a huge amount of Gerrymandered districts all across the US, which makes it even more crazy when you realize that they still don’t even have a majority in the house.

if more voters = less republican power, it means that the republican party doesn't have any policies that entices enough voters.

@@karsten69 Policies aside, the fact anyone would vote for a man who has openly admitting to sexually harassing underage girls is absurd to me, but here we are.

@@thatoneguy944 ah, the trolls are early.

@@seigeengine Agreed, but I'd say anyone who would vote for someone who says you aren't Black enough if you don't vote for me is equally absurd.

The "previous condition of servitude" that they performed is not the reason they are being denied the vote, but rather because of the felony conviction itself. Their compelled labor and denied right to vote are not linked causally, but rather incidentally by a common cause: the felony conviction. I believe convicted felons should have the right to vote, but I don't believe you have a compelling argument here based solely on these amendments.

And that includes those wrongfully convicted, of course... Also: Canada doesn't make a distinction wether you're incarcerated or not, Election Canada has a system in place especially for that. elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=bkg&document=ec90545&lang=e It's plain voter suppression.

@Cherry Are you dense? He's not questioning the connection to slavery. He's questioning the likely legal outcome of relying on just those two amendments. I assume if someone created an argument with stronger legal evidence including the connections to the 13th & 15th then @Spamus would have less to critique. Maybe I'm just dense and attributing my own thoughts to some random guy. Idk.

Felons can vote in most states once their incarceration/supervision ends.

@@DarthObscurity 10 million voters suppressed... not bad for a free country. CCP is proud.

You're absolutely correct - in some places, allowing mail in voting actually favors Republicans because of the demographics of people who mail in vote there (Florida being an obvious example).

ALSO-RAN ! Because it doesn’t actually improve his odds. It does make it easier for people in rural areas to vote and may increase his electoral support in a lot of those areas but there’s is simply way more democratic voters and left leaning independents that it would actually tank most Republican support nation wide. That’s why it’s better for him to suppress the vote altogether because the odds of him wining after destroying the democratic process is greater than having a fair election.

@@rerecroz. Exactly. As the overall number goes up, the republican percentage goes down. That's why the crafty republicans in Wisconsin target their suppression in Wisconsin.

That's why you hear Trump say that Florida can do mail in ballots. But everywhere else is Corrupt! www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2020/08/04/trump-reverses-himself-says-voting-by-mail-in-florida-is-fine/

@@icin4d yes crafty Republicans......with a democratic governor. So crafty that they got a Democrat elected! How devious!

And I'm genuinely not trying to be a huge dick, but it is admittedly frustrating hearing so many people who don't care to hear how people come to crazy conclusions, and would rather just assume they are crazy instead of rational and coming to different conclusions. People can hold opposing views and both be right. what works for some will not for others. And what has been abused before can most certainly be abused again when a change is made to the system without proper forethought. Personally I think the decision to push en-masse mail-in-voting will result in greater dissatisfaction of the outcome. If Trump wins, the media will claim it was voter fraud, and if Biden wins many people will assume it was due to mail-in-votes. worse yet, they'd likely be right, because the majority of democrats live in cities that are promoting it the most. WORST yet, if the votes result in a Trump win that gets overturned by late mail-ins (most likely, as rural places are voting in person more than cities), NO-ONE will be satisfied. there isn't even a precedent for it happening. De-facto Trump would win due to deadline, but the votes would say otherwise after the fact. lose lose.

@@nikopaseman7147 I'm the crazy fucker that wants 3 leaders. Right left and independent. With their own Vices. I know it's a horrible idea but at this point I don't care. I don't mind letting it burn at this point. Presidents barely change my own personal life on an day to day basis and smaller polls like Govs or congress reps are much more important and flat out effects me more vividly. Just saying.

@@boomknight1015 hey bro, you in for razing the government to the ground and starting over?

@@jacobnelson7713 Not really. It's doing that on it's own. I like people not actively stealing my stuff and hurting me which is really the only real benefit I see having a stable government in the first place. Besides often when a place does that a dictatorship takes over

@@birthdaygnat8314 I'm not sure what you're responding to. I'm going assume my first reply. The Government effects me with out a doubt. Presidents doesn't for the most part. I was hoping I was clear enough to state the difference with "Presidents barely change my own personal life on an day to day basis" If a Presivdent is the whole Government then we got issues.

Actually most countries don't require ID to vote. Particularly in America many poor people don't have any form of government ID because obviously they cost money. Requiring ID means these people are unfairly unrepresented.

@@qwerty1998ish In Sweden, everyone has an ID, even if it costs about 40 dollars. It is so often you need ID so you need to be homeless to manage without ID.

@@niklasmolen4753 even homeless people who can't afford $40 for an ID should be able to vote. And since many places don't have mandatory or free IDs (especially in America where the same people calling for IDs being required to vote also make it hard to easily get an ID) it results in the poor getting even less say in government than the rich.

@@qwerty1998ish The situation is quite different between countries. In Sweden, there are few who are homeless and it is easy (I think) to get ID. And in Sweden, homeless people can afford $ 40 for ID if they want one, because they receive a grant from the state. There are also several different types of IDs that are valid.

@@qwerty1998ish getting an ID literally doesn't cost shit. $5 at the max if anything

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Facts!

me wondering how much the stripping cost then

@ColicoVis - I'm glad for you that you landed in Washington (beautiful state, too!). Pity us who have backward systems to contend with.

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There has to be a balance between ease of voting and election security. 100% in person voting would be difficult, but could be eased with more polling locations. 100% mail in would be the easiest, but would be the least secure.

@@jay_mw Our mail in voting is perfectly secure. Stop spreading misinformation. There is ballot tracking, signature analysis, and significant security protocols protecting the process.

@@HeathRho It's funny I made my comment a week ago and you responded today when news broke that ballots were found in a ditch. You can think mail in voting is secure, but it's objectively not as secure as in-person voting.

You can look at the USPS net income over the years. It’s public record. 2003-2006 were the last years they made profits (9b over 3 years). Since ‘06 they have been sinking deeper into the red.

This is not news. Just getting attention in light of current events.

@@soccrstar4 That is because the USPS was forced to pay pensions 75 years in advance for employees who haven't even been born yet. If you disregard the pre-paid pension nonsense, you'll find that the USPS still turns profit every year.

@@Thanos88888 so technically the USPS is no longer making the 5+ billion dollar payments for the prefunding. The financial issue that is now at play is that the decade of those payments was ruinous to the USPS, and caused them to incur pretty massive debt. Paying that debt is the new millstone hanging around the USPS neck.

My issue isn't the changes in and of themselves exactly, just the timing and the person in charge. I see Trump has zero issue with postal boxes and mail sorting machines being removed before the election but a state making changes to make voting easier, that's illegal and he's suing. Between these actions and including his attack on Twitter for "suppressing free speech" (which, one, they're a private platform, they can do that if they wish, and two, fact-checking someone and still leaving up the original comment isn't suppressing free speech), this looks like what we've often seen with totalitarians and dictators. It's almost surreal, the very thing I'd see in a movie, not here.

It at least opens up the potential to change thousands of votes with a single intervention, where the ballots would need thousands of individual actions to achieve. Send in a request, collect forms, fake/fill out, send back in... it's tedious, slow and does not change much unless you REALLY were dedicated.

I have a right to complain about whatever I want. So if both candidates are horrible choices for me, and I don’t vote for either because of that, then for some reason I can’t complain about the government?

Wanna know why? Germany uses a community-based resident registration system. Everyone eligible to vote receives a personal polling notification by mail, some weeks before the election. The notification indicates the voter's precinct polling station. Voters must present their polling notification and if asked a piece of photo ID (identity card (compulsory in Germany), passport, form of identification). As a rule identification is not required other than by the polling notification. If the voter cannot present the notification, a valid ID and an entry in the register of voters can qualify for voting.[13][14]

Electronic voting systems fail to achieve the most important requirement for a vote. Anonymity and transparency. Anonymity can't be achieved because the person needs to be idetified on a computer at the moment during the vote. Transparency can't be achieved because no one knows what happens with your vote in the background. Every single IT specialist will shiver in horror if you ask him about if electronic voting is a good idea.

Voting by mail is potentially worse than your machines. Here in South Africa people seem to "find" whole boxes of ballots for a particular party, as well as discarded boxes in particular regions of the country. Don't think that this will be any safer than your voting computers.

I'm glad to hear this. Fortunately Trump agrees with you. He is not targeting Absentee ballots as stated, he is targeting universal mail in voting. There is a significant difference between absentee ballot and universal mail in voting. Only about 50% of the population actually vote, meaning if everyone who actually voted requested a ballot they would only send ballots to about half of all registered voters. This is not an insignificant difference. Please look into the disaster that was the recent New Jersey election. Only about 50% of the sent ballots were returned, and 20% of those were rejected.

​@Psilocybe Cubensis "The lawyer in this video and reality itself disagrees." The lawyer in this video does not really explain the differences between the 2 systems as he is highly politically motivated. And your claim that "reality itself disagrees" Is simply not backed by anything. Your entire comment summed up was "NO! YOUR WRONG!" without any evidence or actual information. -> I believe you are confused by the terminology and function. Absentee ballots, even those that require no reason, must still be requested. _Universal_ mail in ballots on the other hand are sent to all registered voters regardless of whether or not they were requested. And the request part is what is important here. In the link below "_all_ mail in voting" is used in place of "_universal_ mail in voting" but they mean the same thing. www.findlaw.com/voting/my-voting-guide/what-are-absentee-ballots-and-how-do-they-work-.html www.dailysignal.com/2020/06/22/8-key-points-to-distinguish-absentee-and-all-mail-voting/ -> Only about 55% of all registered voters nation wide actually vote, on average. This includes mail in voting numbers. Meaning that about 45% of all ballots sent out in a _Universal_ mail in voting system, are never returned (more on this below). ballotpedia.org/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_elections -> The majority of states require no reason to request and absentee ballot, and to my knowledge ALL states allow Covid as a valid reason to request an absentee ballot. www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/absentee-and-early-voting.aspx blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2020/05/is-covid-19-a-valid-reason-to-request-an-absentee-ballot.html -> And thats not to mention that Covid is not even a valid reason to avoid poll voting anyway. But to be clear, I am personally perfectly fine with allowing anyone to request an absentee ballot for Covid, even if its not necessary for safety. People are concerned right now and access to _absentee_ ballots is important. www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/13/anthony-fauci-no-reason-why-we-shouldnt-be-able-vo/ -> Yes that is exactly the problem it was mishandled so badly that nearly 1/5th of voters basically didn't get to vote. What would you think if 20% of your paycheck was just "mis-handeled" away. www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/06/26/1_in_5_ballots_rejected_as_fraud_is_charged_in_nj_mail-in_election_143551.html#! -> And this is not just ONE case, there have been reports for years about mis-handling of _universal_ mail in voting, or even absentee ballots, and how it could impact elections. www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html#! nypost.com/2020/08/05/84000-mail-in-ballots-disqualified-in-nyc-primary-election/ Please do some actual research before running your mouth.

Along with 2 ex KGB agents with a bone saw.

Interestingly enough I've heard that not only is Russia trying to swing the votes toward Trump, but China threw its hat in the ring to swing the votes toward Biden, lol.

Don't be drinking any tea any time soon

You're wrong. It's not just Russia now, China has joined in as well. And I would be surprised if other countries (India, Turkey etc.) weren't doing so too, because the US has a voting system that makes it exceptionally prone to foreign interference. In 2016 it benefited Trump, in 2020 it might benefit Biden - but that's not the point. The point is that foreign interference, even if it supports a "better candidate" is harmful.

CCP has a permanent military force, a team of pro hackers dedicated to mess with targeted countries. I wonder if the USA is worth of their disruption ressources...Yeah, USA is on their to-do list.

Should rather have compulsory non-voting.

Hi Aaron, As an Aussie I have total contempt for our voting system - we may as well be in Soviet Russia. What you need to understand is the three key rules. 1. You must vote ie it is compulsory and you get fined if you don't 2. We have preferential voting (STV) 3. You must put a preference against each candidate ie it is exhaustive preferential voting Like a lot of democratic countries we have two major parties. So rule 3 says you must put one of them second last. The corollary of rule 3 is that we must vote Liberal or Labor (US folk that is roughly Democrat and Republican). It is compulsory to vote Laberal (Labor or Liberal) is the consequence of this. In the US it would be you are forced to vote Democrat or Republican. The following corollary is that in Australia if there is a common policy between the two major parties you cannot vote against that policy. You are forced to vote for one of the majors and hence vote for the joint/shared policy that has thrown you out of work and ruined your life. How's that for a fine democracy?? Of course it is easily fixed by either making voting non-compulsory or by making it non exhaustive preferential. That forces the majors to go to the effort of getting the people out to at least put them second last. Of course the last person to advocate non-exhaustive voting (Albert Langer) was shoved in the clink at Her Majesties' pleasure. (US folk that means an indefinite jail until they think he will mind his manners better. Fairly Totalitarian huh, even if killing him would be taken as excessive). So Aaron I wouldn't be too thankful though we have some things to be proud of. The Australian Ballot as the US calls it. First country with universal male franchise and second with universal female franchise. Compulsory exhaustive preferential voting is definitively not one of them. So I will not vote as it is the only way I can avoid voting Laberal and their share common policies.

Agree with you Aaron, ignore the other peeps in this thread that are just spouting nonsensical hot air

@@rictechow231 Except that really doesn't work since the only way one of the major parties gets elected when you put them last and second last, is if your preferred candidate was never going to win anyway. So putting the majors "equal last" might make you feel slightly better about yourself, but it accomplishes little else. Unless of course lots of people do it and noone gets elected. That would be pretty silly then. The best way to get change is to campaign for the more minor parties. That's how we've ended up with independents, the Greens and Trump Lite in parliament.

Mandatory voting just seems so undemocratic.

Sounds to me like you deserve some nice boxer briefs!

You're legally adult, and you can wear boxer briefs if you want, so still valid. Though since Mack Weldon is men's wear they would probably not fit all that well...

@@Calibrumm I can't understand the logic on the lesser the cloth the more it costs.

Young people have to get political to save themselves from heartless, souless, old bastards! Good luck!

You're an adult, now you must buy some nice boxer briefs

Standard Trumpian language that claims a thing affects the people Trumpians want to be upset and scream about the thing they're inventing

One way is that Native Americans on reservations often have addresses that don't correspond to the state's system, so they are deemed as not having valid addresses and therefore not eligible for absentee ballots. In counties and states with high Native American populations, this is deliberately used to prevent Natives from voting. Oh, wait. Those aren't the voters Republicans are worried about.

Thank you! It’s so obvious an idiot can understand that this vote by mail WILL lead to fraud.

link proof. anecdotal evidence is not evidence.

@@joconnell245 What proof would you like? I'm not about to share my home address and name onto the internet.

Exactly, whatever method you figure how to hack in and change the votes means you can just use that same attack again on all of their different systems in all of their computers. Even if you managed to break into a room somewhere in some zip code somewhere you've only changed that specific neighborhood

Agreed. I think Digital voting is another attempt at voter suppression. The mail system is not exempt. if the "one in charge" decides to re-route the voters ballots from a zip code area in, let's say, the garbage, no one will ever know.

Very well explained, super noodles!

@@katrand5357 thank you

This misrepresents gaining access to a digital system as being equivalent to gaining access to one person's mail-in vote. The process involved in gaining access to a digital voting system is complicated, and requires having physical access to the system in an extremely obvious way for several minutes, often while a very loud alarm is going off, OR having someone with authority to access the device willing to unlock it for you and everyone around them willing to look the other way. The process involved in tampering with mail-in votes involves acquiring ballots from people dumb enough to give them to you or who you can access their mail before they do to steal their ballots, then taking them home in bulk to tamper with at your leisure. OR having someone with authority to access the ballots after they have been unsealed willing to allow you access to them and everyone around them willing to look the other way while you grab them and replace them with ones you pre-filled out. Neither is a practical way to tamper with votes. You either get caught while the alarm is blaring or while you're stealing from people's mailboxes, OR someone doesn't look the other way. Your votes are safe either way. Claiming they aren't safe (either mail-in or electronic) is a form of disenfranchisement because it discourages people from taking the time to vote when they think it won't be counted.

He also said that Congress has resisted reforming the voting system in this country as well

Still in lockdown

I think that is misiturpiting what Trump said. He refered to if mail in voting was implemented. Not saying that more people voting would mean he would lose. Just look at the last election to prove that, HC had the popular vote, but lost.

But the COVID thing is true.... we only have more “cases” because we are performing more tests and reporting the results unlike China *cough cough*

@@jacobluciano8657 that's not how that works... that's not how that works at all... consider you have 24 people in a room and 6 of them have a case of Generic Plague (GP). You conduct 6 random tests that report that 2 people have GP. How many people in the room have GP?

@@jacobluciano8657 Who cares about China? You also have significant more cases than India, all of Europe combined, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and every other "good" country. And every other bad country. Even on a per capita basis there are very few countries that are doing worse than the US, and they're all trending down or at least flat while the US is still spiking day after day. And that's before we tell 100 million people to go stand in line together for hours on end. Unless you somehow think _every single other country in the world_ is somehow "cheating," the comparison to China is just not all that relevant.

That should be illegal, there needs to be an age thing and a 'your almost dead or don't know where you are' restriction

Richterman it is illegal

Note: all the while pointing said rifle towards someone.

Would have been funnier to use a bunch of jars with deer balls in them. Pretty sure I could get a dozen from my neighbor during hunting season lol

As someone from the state of georgia, let me tell you we're all a bit embarrassed by him and for a thousand more reasons than his holding a gun to a child's head and that should tell you how embarrassing he is to us

@Matt B Ah. I see. Please forgive my ignorance and thank you for correcting me.

Christina Lahey AGREED! Georgia resident here

you can’t expect people to still listen to someone after they tell you to drink bleach lol

Don't need verification. Kyle acted in total self defense, on every count. There is much info out there now.

It doesn’t fit his narrative

Def not broo lol I'd be interested in seeing it and if he'd cover it

@@birthdaygnat8314 you know the word assume ? that is straight from a lawyers perspective.

@Jay Torres as it should be, and as his attorney said it would be.

Yup. Here's a video about the difficulties in stopping people from changing votes of other people: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w3_0x6oaDmI.html

I live in Virginia so it's possible for people here to vote early/absentee in person without an "excuse code". Do you have that option in FL? If so, you can always do that, and in my experience it wasn't ever crowded-- also, you get to put your ballot right in the voting machine, so it's just like voting on election day. If not, wearing your mask and keeping a distance should protect you... I don't think voting will be considered a high-risk activity for COVID in the end.

I appreciate you pointing out the problem with mail in voting!

@@yespls4184 Here's the problem with in person voting: the poor soul who has to work the election and get exposed to all the covid in the air for many hours. Most of the people who do that are retired and more likely to suffer really bad covid symptoms, so oddly enough, they aren't volunteering to do this in the normal numbers. That's why there are fewer polling places with longer lines. There are efforts to recruit young people but, come on, it is a long, hard stretch of repetitious work that doesn't pay very well and most young people don't have the ability to handle that level of tedium while keeping their attention riveted to doing everything right. I love to work elections because it is history being made but it is a physical, mental, and emotional challenge even without the possibility of death. I worked our primary, processing mail in ballots, which was three people in a team about five-six feet apart across a table, masks and gloves. Huge difference. I'd like to do that again if they need me. When voting, do stop and think. It isn't all about you.

It would have historical precedent... IIRC in 2000 50,000 mail in ballots were found later ona dump in spain... the excuse was that they were only needed in case of a tie or something like that, but as that was an election that was decided by a single arse hair's width that seemed fishy AF.

God???? So that you?!

How would you know. Politicians there run around broadcasting their crimes do they?

@Psilocybe Cubensis He isn't...

@Psilocybe Cubensis While I appreciate you're defence of mail-in voting, that's not what thisguy is saying. A major reason for most of the US archaic voting systems is because the when voting is both difficult and non-compulsory, voter turnout is lower. Statistically, older white voters (the GOPs main demographic) are the ones most likely to make the effort. The GOP is a major factor in this being an issue because in every major poll taken on the subject, if voter turnout was 100% (i.e. compulsory), pretty much every state would vote Blue. Which is why thisguy said the left isn't interested in voter suppression; it has no reason to do so.

How's things in Victoria goin? You don't have battle rifles either, how's that workin out?

It would be extremely difficult for all the towns in all the counties in all the states of the United States to be able to coordinate on that scale. But virtually anything is possible so I imagine that if the people counting the votes get caught lying then that will be treated as voter fraud or probably even voter fraud while abusing the office of power that they had (on account of the faith given to them by the American people to perform their duty with integrity) which would come with harsher legal ramifications for those individuals then the plain ol voter fraud he is talking about in the video.

I also imagine the people that are tasked with counting votes are probably sitting in quite an uncomfortable room with very many cameras and people watching them that are counting and double counting and triple counting to be absolutely certain of results. Kind of like that scene in that old movie New Jack City where Wesley Snipes has the ladies bagging up crack but they're all butt naked cuz he wants to make sure they ain't stealing from him.

@@musiclaboratory9694 lol brilliant example at the end. Thanks for explaining all this.

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