Quickest way to see how much RU-vid has reduced your audio levels is to right click on the RU-vid viewer and select "Stats for nerds" - Volume / Normalized 100%/81% (content loudness 1.8dB)... so, this video has been reduced by 1.8dB
True, thanks for pointing that out! That is one sure way to check after you uploaded to see if the stats in youtube fit with what you measure yourself. So a good check. To be sure you upload with a correct volume, check before by a/b other videos or measure the entire track recommended) By the time youtube has processed your track in all bitrates and resolutions and you've done your youtube optimizion you dont want to go back and have to reupload the video because your volume is too low ;-)
Hello Marlon! I had to come check out yur channel. Glad I did because youtube audio is something I've been wondering about. Great editing by the way! Thank you for your kind words in the live chat too. Sub....scribed!!
@@whitenoisestudio loved it. Knew about the -14lufs from some website I read, but it is really great to have that confirmed by a trusted source! Cheers Marlon!!
Yup. I mixed this video ( all videos) a bit louder then the loudness standard to have it always correct by youtube normalisation. Which i tell in the video.
@@whitenoisestudio I don't listen to streaming services so it makes no difference to me. I just wanted to know if I can still push my masters higher than -14.
you always can. You dont master for the loudness of a streaming service, the streaming service will normalize themselves. Master as loud as it's sounds good and fits the music, that's the only thing which counts.
@@whitenoisestudio I was up all night mixing and mastering this project for 10 hours. Span indicated an insane amount of phasing on the final master, but i didn't hear any of it, so I just left it as is. :D
1. Why do they get normalized to 14.1 and 14.2 etc. instead of flat 14 lufs. Also how does the pink noise with some silence being normalized to 14.3 making it louder in a sneaky way? It just makes it even lower than 14 lufs.
Hey Jay. 14.1 / 14.2 isn’t that much of a difference. Just make sure your audio is a tad louder before uploading. The silences do nothing, they are excluded in the LUFS measurements.
Haha thanks, happy to see it answered your question ;-) Yeah need to show how i did it right? ''Loudness =-14lufs and the video only get decreased in loudness when it's louder then that -14lufs, if it's below -14lufs it wont get boosted in volume.'' That would have made a cute 10 second video.
As I publish gaming videos from my stream on Twitch I can export these to RU-vid directly which is super handy and if only the audio would also have been normalized up a bit that would have been so good. Oh, can't have it all.
yeah it means you can focus on teh mix again instaed of ''louder is better''. Although having a dynamic mix per se doesnt equal great mix. Some styles really benefit from limiting and some absolutely dont :-)
Some slip through the cracks, but for basically most it is correct. Also if you right click on a video and select ''stats for nerds'' you can see how much each video has been normalized.
@@whitenoisestudio that’s the thing there are RU-vid channels in which it says they were only normalized 0.4 or sometimes are-1.4 below but they sound loud and when analyzing them they are at 9 LUFS
Hi mate, great video. But I've found that recently all videos I'm accessing - when signed into RU-vid, they play back with DRC or Dynamic Range Compression and the sound is in fact being turned up if it is lower than -14LUFS. Have you experienced a similar thing?
@@whitenoisestudio Thanks so much for your response. I find it is when I right click a video and click 'stats for nerds' it shows the level of DRC applied. It makes the quieter sections of quieter videos much louder. Cheers dude.
Well, it is an interesting video and also an interesting thing all this "-14 lufs" stuff...But, for example, I once tried and did a special mastering for youtube, at -14 Lufs. When I uploaded it, it turned to be much quieter than almost anything on youtube. Are we sure that , for example, the big artists upload their songs at only -14 Lufs? For me it seems that most of them upload them much louder...
Hey man! Valid question. Was your Lufs measured over the entire track? Have you checked with right mouse click on that video - stats for nerds? It shows how much volume normalisation has been applied. For this video it says : Volume / Normalized : 100% / 85% (content loudness 1.4dB) Because my samples showed exactly how it get's reduced in volume when it's louder then -14Lufs and I made sure the measurements where 100% correct. At the end of the video I say I always aim a bit louder to be safe, since youtube always turns it down anyway. Music for youtube shouldn't be mastered at -14Lufs unless the music asks for it. Make it as loud as you feel sounds fitting for the music, again youtube will turn it down when it's too loud. If you want to check how a master sounds on youtube, through the compression codec, check this video here below: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-b3o7CSaxxKM.html
So if I have a song that is hitting at a max of -6 db, they will turn it down to -14 db? And if I turn the max level down to -14 or -12 db, it will turn it up to 0 - -6db? Please, I don't quite understand?...SBN RESONATE
RU-vid will only turn down your track if it's too loud. It wil normalize to -14lufs if your audio is louder than that. RU-vid will never turn up the volume of the audio, only down. And: you need to measure in LUFS, not RMS.
If you don't understand LUFS, just normalize everything to -3 db. I did an online test to see if stuff normalized to -3 can play on RU-vid without them normalizing it, and it works just fine. That's as loud as you can get it without them squashing it. A lot of people do -5 or -6 for vlogs, but that's not really necessary. You only need to go that low if you're prepping music files for a mixing engineer. You want to go as loud as you can without ebay normalizing things because if you're too far below their threshold, it's going to sound quiet on here and people will have to crank the volume to hear it. They don't normalize quiet tracks up to -14lufs; they just squash everything that comes in louder than that. That's why there is still so much variance in video volume.
@@BatEatsMoth RU-vid never squashes things. Main issue with your method is that it does not take in account any loudness. Normalising to -3dB doesn’t say anything, if your overall loudness is below the -14lufs threshold, even with the -3dB normalising, your video will sound less loud, minus a few peaks. My videos are normalised to -0,5 dB will is safe enough for some intermittent peaks if they are there. My videos are overall louder than -14lufs so YT will turn them all down, and I take that into account.
I'd be curious to figure out if RU-vid compresses the audio in order to bring it down (whenever the video is above -14 lufs) or if they just bring it down like a master fader. Sean Divine talks about how there is a pretty common misconception on Spotify where people will say Spotify compresses the audio that's above -14lufs, but they really just turn it down. The dynamics and tonal balance of the song remains the same even if you go above -14lufs. I wonder if that's the same with RU-vid.
True max peak? Dont know. but it's always wise to keep your peak below 0dB regardless. When was that tutorial released?Yyoutube changed the loudness to LUFS in somewhere in the second half of 2019. So any info regarding loudness before that date can be considered invalid or outdated or need to be double or triple checked.
@@whitenoisestudio check this graph : www.masteringthemix.com/blogs/learn/76296773-mastering-audio-for-soundcloud-itunes-spotify-and-youtube Its a hassle to find youtube's own official guidelines. But here is spotify's one, as reference: artists.spotify.com/faq/mastering-and-loudness#will-spotify-play-my-track-at-the-level-it's-mastered
@Mark Gerry Well maybe. Intentionally brickwalled is about sound not about actual loudness although a factor as well. In regards of sound , lufs normalisation wont change that. Just export as you normally would. I mastered noise tracks where loudness was+6lufs. Yes that +. Didnt even know it was possible, but it was was requested. A nice distorting clipper will work as well.
When i hear music from youtube on headphones even if i turned the volume on 100% only i hear if where on 40% or 30% and i canot turn up more the volume is very low for me
@@whitenoisestudio on spotify and facebook i hear better like the volume is full, when i desactivate "the Normalizer" of spotify i hear the music more louder an better
@@whitenoisestudiomy earphones are pasive, cables just one mic, but the more the power more loud sound the speaker, but if you turn up more the signal if the power its little low its not te same sound, but if the signal its low and the power its enough good thats would be the problem for me on example like RU-vid some times normalize an audio turning down to 40% 30% 8-dB or 6-dB but when i hear it before its upload on youtube its full good volume and after normalize thats happen turning down the gain.
Well yeah, that is what normalizing does. When you check before uploading that normalizing isnt happening of course. If it's 6 to 8db reduction it means you have the audio at -8 or -6 Lufs before the normalization of youtube ( -14lufs) which is REALLY loud. So i suggest checking your headphones impedance, you have a mismatch in what your headphones need and what your headphone on soundcard or phone or whatever can deliver.
Ok, but is it really loude on YT as well? because when you mix with -6lufs as result, that dynamic range wont change in itself. It is lowered with 8dB. So i dont know if you added normalisation or that it was a lot louder on YT already.
@@whitenoisestudio their video itself is way too loud to be -14lufs... getting such loudness with us Nirmal content creators seems impossible. Either there is some magic in their mix or they get special rights as production studios to upload without normalization.
I can see why not much people these days are posting video due to volume issue. I mean let's be honest. Not much will buy these applications to fix the issue and I'm talking about people in general that would post daily.
Yeah... I wondered if youtube does that. If its true what you say.. then why the HELL doesnt youtube keep the same loudness for commercials? It is super annoying to get my ears busted when suddenly some loud commercial begins in the middle of a video what I watch on my TV with the audio system activated. I always thought to myself.. why cannot youtube control the audio level so it doesnt blow your eardrums... all their fancy AI they got to delete comments that arent even insulting but controling audio and keep a constant level is obviosuly not desired.
System is not perfect I agree. BUT it works always for me. Also, YT doesnt delete comments, it's the settings on each channel to hide certain words from popping up. I have a big list to block spam bots accounts and unfortunately sometimes normal comments also get put in ''comment jail'' that's why I go in those held for review comments and check. That's how your comment popped up as well ;-)
@@whitenoisestudio Regarding the "hide certain words" I am sure some comments dissapear because of "forbidden" words. But I can guarantee you, without any doubt that youtube uses a very clever and advanced AI to scan comments for "insulting words" and in general for a negative attitude. And it doesnt even do that within a language alone like English OR German, it even scans it in a multinlingual context not words alone in different languages at the same time. I had many comments deleted where I dont even insult a person directly, but indirectly with very abstract words and it still gets the idea of me being negative. I also speak Russian and lately it is even able to understand the Russian language with latin letters! The only way I was able to beat the system is using different letters from different alphabets where the letter looks similar but has a different meaning. And that damn thing learns every time. since the time I recognized its ability it gets much better and more clever day by day. I am just sure of one thing. Our lives wont be sweet in the very near future. Where everything we do say will be controlled AND punished. mark my words.
SAY NO TO LUFS, SAY NO TO MODERN LOUDNESS! iF you respect the art of producing music, then fight back, stop ruining your own creations by making them so loud. In 100 years when people are listening to music from our era, they are going to vomit.
Euh. LUFS is just an measurement tool. The -14LUFS is a pretty good loudness . Apple is doing -16 soon. Mix with your ears to make the mix sound good and dont get too upset with how loud it measures.
What is frustrating is the lack of info from RU-vid themselves. Also when I'm not signed into RU-vid, but I play videos on RU-vid, videos play back at their normal volume, but when I am signed in they have DRC added under 'stats for nerds' which changes the loudness level dramatically and really ruins some more delicate mixes.
RU-vid keeps lowering my damn voice to like -12 DBs. I moved up the DBs a further 3 and then it was -9. Have I got to keep making it higher to get it closer to the 0 and be louder? Any advice would be appreciated as it's stressing me out.
No. Lufs measures the average loudness of an audio file of its entire length. This results in a number in LUFS which is the standard for loudness in all streaming platforms and broadcast for a few years now.
