The Two Kinds of Photographers... 

When I go fishing we always say:”Fish are a bonus!” It’s the same with my photography: “An epic photo today is a bonus!” Just being out is truly awesome!

I'm definitely in group 1. My camera, or my bike is a great excuse to get out there and enjoy the great outdoors.

I just want to say thank you for inspiring me to deepen my passion for photography, to really invest my time in getting better in every aspect. I’ve seen huge leaps in my shots recently

You've no idea how comforting it is to see that even a professional can cock things up. Helps me to put my catalogue of photography disasters in perspective. Another cracking lesson - thanks again...

Hilarious to watch your revelation and always refreshing to see the human side of professional photography! Thanks for being so open and so educational.

finding the balance of actually hiking and taking photos, is the key.

I'm a type 1 90% of the time. I often take my camera out and get very few shots I like, but I've enjoyed a good walk and the fresh air!

You are such fun to watch! Thanks for bringing us along!

I go out with the intent to take photos and come back glad I just got to be outdoors. Over the years I have finally reached a point that I can shrug off missed situations. For example, at a beach I frequent once or twice a year was entrenched in fog and I found a nice minimalist composition. While I was cleaning the mist off my glasses, I watched five blobs low to the ground fly across my scene honking as they went by. Well at least I knew the blobs were geese since they announced it. No picture but I did get a good laugh. 😁

Love these kinds of videos. I feel so much more part of the process.

Thanks James for this video, your timing is always spot on as I’ve been trying to clarify my ideal audience to build an online community around and type 1 is definitely part of that 😀

I used to get in my car and just drive and drive, stopping occasionally to shoot something out the window. I used to go to a state park in Kentucky simply because they had buffalo there. I rarely walk a trail. And yet, I used to get photos that I was really proud of. I wish I could get myself back out there because I do love nature, just not the walking (or the driving) anymore. At 68, the knees are shot. So I'll just enjoy watching you!

Great drone pics! Thanks for the longer video too, good content. You always seem to provide good ideas or different perspectives.

Actually, I loved your first mist shot with the view of the tree appearing out of the mist. This even though the sky wasn't dramatic.

I continue to be amazed and envious that you can walk through woods, with a road even, and not encounter another human. I've never been anywhere like that. I haven't even been in "woods," but if I had there'd be people (and vehicles) everywhere. Thanks for taking us along.

"Nature Photographer Who Doesn't Know Plant Names" is a mood

Thanks James, beautifully honest this is why I love your videos

Lovely drone footage 👍

Great video James. Love the images of the falling mist against the trees. Sometimes I feel during the rain it can be a nightmare but once the rain stops you can capture some magical results. I only have a few days left in isolation so once thats finished Im straight back out on location with somenew changes to my channel. Really well explained and always enjoy watching your content. Keep up the great work!

I did a blog a few years ago about this kind of stuff. . . . . thanks for the reminder about the role expectations can play when we head out. . . .

Always love the videos. Thanks

Thanks for a great video and images. Your favourite drone shot is an absolute stunner. I love taking forestry path scenes too. Yes, in answer to your question - they are pine needles.

This channel just keeps getting better and better!

Your humility is especially appreciated by schlub photographers such as myself. Thanks!

Lovely shots as always James. There is something nice about being out in the rain during summer haha

Some very nice misty shots James.

Brilliant mate ! Kind of love the fact you don't mind showing how you cocked up the place for the epic shot,,,,I'm sure you'll have the shot sorted in no time and loved the the video as alwyays,,,

love the photos you featured on this one

Good video. Got out yesterday for first time in a while due to weather being too hot where I'm at. There's a place I found overlooking a canyon cut by the Agua Fria River in Arizona, that I've been trying for a while to get a good shot of. Weather still wasn't cooperating this time either and I didn't get the shot I was hoping for. Was pretty down about it until a friend reminded me that I got out and had a lot of fun and maybe learned something. Like you say, it's all about having the right perspective.

Definitely category 1 for me. It’s the reason I started a RU-vid channel, to make sure I can remember those experiences ✌🏻. Thanks yet again for the inspiration!

Your mistake added soooo much great drama and reality to this week's video! haha great!

Man and nature…a combination that has worked for many an artist. Beautiful drone images/clips…that morning sun and mist is killer.

Bucket one as well. I go for hikes/walks and just bring my camera. Though I want to practice going out for specific shots more. :)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and comments... As a hobbyist I just enjoy getting out & taking pics when ever I can as we are in 'lockdown' at the moment so difficult to travel far..I enjoyed your video & location & pics as well.. cheers from Australia 😀

First time viewer - beautiful work! Love your perspective.

I love that drone shot at 12:20. Just love it..

Definitely #2. Although when the trek to capture that decisive moment is unsuccessful, it oftentimes seems like more work than what its worth. On the other hand, you can always turn disappointment into opportunity. Getting that wet road does make for an interesting change of feature.

HAHAHA! Love the ” Wrong bend ”…

I am absolutely "Bucket 1". I love the outdoors and a camera is a great tool to document my adventures. I'm in the Pacific Northwest of the USA so your rain forecast missing the mark...yeh, I can relate, LOL. Great video BTW

While I love a good hike, it's almost always the prospect of shooting that gets me off the couch and out the door, so I guess that puts me in Group #2!

Great video! I am mainly out for the experience of being out in nature with photography being a secondary part of the experience...but a fantastic secondary part! 😉 But I will occasionally go out with a specific photo in mind.

Can't wait to see what kind of magic you can make here in the states. I've been driving for 5 days taking pictures somewhere new every day and haven't left the lower 3rd of Missouri

I fit in category 1, I have always gone in the woods every second I can since I was a kid and a camera just allows me to do something aside from walk, it makes me think, it makes me be more situationaly aware and it makes me slow down.

Hello James. Thank you for keeping it real and posting your mistakes and disappoints. I really appreciate it. Now that I am retried, I plan to visit Wales where my father's family comes from. Do you have a video of where to go to photograph as a visitor? Thanks Garold

Thanks for posting a video showing that even pros make planning mistakes! I make them all the time lol Also FWIW I love that drone shot!

Happy Saturday

"You mist a shot", and that is good! ;)

Great video!

100% in group 2. I have cameras to thank for not being indoors all the time 😂

I try always to take my ebike when shooting, or getting out. Helps me get around faster with limited amount of time with good light changing weather conditions and or to travel farther with less effort. As for 2 types of photographers. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. Sometimes I go out to get the shot. Sometimes I get the shot while I am out enjoying my time out.

"man made things, people, buildings..." Yeah well, technically people are man made :D

You're in great company, Mr. Popsys. I've done the same thing myself, numerous times. XD

When a video is called something and he talks about it for two minutes... Classic James Popsys.

The main lesson is that the grass is always greener on the other side, cause the mist saturates it 😁

They say there are 2 types of people in the world. Those that divide people into groups and those who don't! Great video James.

Hello again James, Gerard Butler's younger, less grumpy brother! I'm personally the type of photographer that goes somewhere to take a photo, if the trip happens to be a fun activity, that's a plus but it's not the focus at all. Even though for me, this is a hobby, not a job. Also, the moment I subbed, I started getting your videos recommended several times a day, that's nice!

similar thing happened to me while trying to do a time lapse of a sunset. I planed it out sun was setting behind me, golden light on the city in front of me looked beautiful. Then some clouds rolled it and killed my light. I could have turned around and changed subjects but I had already committed to

Ey I use the same filter holder! They're great! You got some really great shots in this video even though it did not go as planned.

I'm definitely part of the 2nd group (if I can). I'll do some research on the location and then have an idea of a shot and go out and hunt for it.

I really like the drone shot though! Beautiful image!

I love that your weather forecast is always wrong. 😅😅

Thank you for posting the "mistake", you could have easily just not shown us. There are so many details to keep track of with photography, it was kind of you to show us you are only human!

I'm type 3: I love to wander around and take photos at any weather.

I am sooo group two :/ specially bc i’m a bit out of shape and hiking gets so exhausting after an hour haha

Nice watch mate I reckon Im an all rounder working in papers does that for ya the only time I get ratty is when I’m fishing love to be out there doing it but always feel like arse when I get water licked 😤

thats a think I miss on the new lumix models its a tiny hardware to put in, only a couple of point and shoot cameras are included gps, its a great future for panasoic to put it in the new models.

Fantastic video, What size of bag do you use ,as I am interested in downsizing and going light. for landscape photography.

If ever waffling becomes an olympic sport James, you will be a UK medal certainty. Entertaining as always.

I started out in group one… I thought taking a camera on my backpacking trips would be a fun way to document the experience. Then I got bit by the photography bug… and Over the last few years I’ve found myself doing more photography based trips than anything else 🤷‍♂️

Western Red Cedar, Thuja plicata.... Just FYI..... Used in pencils (smell when sharpened) and top wood for mellow guitars

you not worked out the welsh weather forecast yet? when it says the rain will stop it means it will be replaced with a different type of rain. they call dry conditions 'indoors'

You have some fabulous ferns (mainly Dryopteris I believe) along that road. For some reason a subject few photographers seem to be drawn to, to any great degree.

Oops! Enjoyed the video as always.

I loved tosee the threes bent for you in the first part, or shall we call it distortion ;-)

Awesome video, as per usual. Where did you purchase your chest strap for the GoPro?

Another great video, very relevant topic, I am bucket 1. Can't help but notice 15K plus views, with only a few hundred thumbs up, seems similar with most good channels, I believe in the principal if I watch a clip all way through, then it is the proper thing to give a like to show a thank you for creators effort.

08:25 - Hi. Welcome to Jazz club, nice 👌🏼

My new Saturday morning routine is make breakfast and watch the new vid. It's excellent

Hello James! how's things? I seem to be obsessed with taking photos of pathways! I always have been. I think I'm more a 'group 2' kind of person. I definitely get more pleasure in being at a place specifically to take photos. How's that little boy of yours by the way? Growing up fast no doubt?

Beautiful

Hi James I recentley brought the S5 with the 20-60mm and 50mm f1.8. I was thinking of getting the Lumix 16-35 f4 next. I don't see you using it much, or would I be better off buying the Sigma 24-70 f2.8 guessing image quality is better than the 20-60mm ?

Hey James any ideas on flash photography? I’m not sure if you have any videos on it

Nice B roll.....

If you want to look at the same question from a slightly different angle, the two types of photographer that I think about a lot are: photographers who make functional works vs photographers who make art. To explain it simply, to borrow your own language, a photographer who makes art takes photos "about something", where as a photographer who is making a "functional work" takes photos "of something". The reasons I find this to be an important distinction: 1. IP law treats functional works differently than creative works. 2. There is generally a significant difference in price between the two. Some people hire a photographer to plan, direct, shoot, edit, and deliver creative works of visual art, and they tend to pay a premium for that artistic endeavor. Other people hire a photographer to snap a bunch of photos to document an event or subject and just expect them to turn over a memory card full of un-edited JPEGs at the end of the session, and they're typically expecting to pay a lot less for a job they consider low-skill labor. Combining these two points together, in the first case, the artist photographer generally retains the copyright on the photos they deliver. Where as the photographer who just hands over an memory card at the end of the session is typically creating a "work for hire" and the client owns the copyright (not the photographer). Legally, there's a lot more nuance to this language and a lot of grey area that varies by what laws may exist in a given jurisdiction. Socially, I think there is a problem that both of these categories describe very different activities which happen to share the exact same title: Photographer. As a result, I've observed confusion and misunderstandings occur between photographers and clients who each made a different assumption about what "photographer" means in a given context. Both types of photography are necessary and valid, but aside from sharing a name, they're really two completely different worlds that don't have a huge amount of overlap once you get beyond the equipment and the basic operation thereof.

Well, I checked to see if I had a message from you saying I had won one of the bags. Glad to say I didn't receive one saying I had won the green one, thank you. To be honest, a little bit disappointed on not winning the black one. Looks like I'm going to have to fork out another 20p at the supermarket 😂

Definitely group 1 for me, which is why I watch this and other similar channels.

I love how he just chats while chasing fog :)

You need a small compass on your keyring or attached to your bag.

you have finally come to my point - nature and humans trails. I love the same, maybe without actually the people. Lack of people is much more interesting to shot since photographers shooting humans are quite a number.

Gotta say, I'm not quite sure what the point of RU-vid's notification bell is. I watched this video this morning when I woke up, but just now got the notification of a new video that was posted 15 hours ago. To comment on the video, I am in group 2, but I am happy that it gets me out, otherwise I'd just stay in more often than I should.

He's Popsys, James Popsys... Grumpy James Popsys :)

You seem to be really going with the s5 over the g9 lately? Any particular reason for this with its heavier lens setups etc?

I've just taken up photography and come across your channel and find it interesting/helpful. It's a pretty expensive hobby, I bought the Nikon D5600 bundle (extra lense) with a little carry case and memory card. In total it cost just under a grand. I'd like a waterproof bag, is they one that you could recommend me? Also any lenses? I have an Instagram account just for my photos taken on my new camera if you'd like to see it? Maybe give a few pointers? I can link it if you'd like to see them?

What are the trousers and walking boots you're wearing!? I'm looking for a good pair of both 😌

James, do you have any tips om jackets? We were in the Mountains last Juli. Hot in The Valley but cold on the Peaks. We didn’t bring our thick vests. I would like a jacket That fits in My backpack as a small Ball. Tnx

Never mind James, your only human after all. Thank goodness for the drone and it’s camera. Stay safe James 🤣

James What the app for logging your position on your phone . Love all your vids 👍👍👍

So much camera swinging back and forth on the first day. While the second day didn't bring you what you wanted, it was still a nice outing to tag along with you. -Elaine

Was that the S5 in the first part of your video? Can I ask was that a deliberate choice because of the possible low light levels, or did you just fancy a change from the G9. Still on the fence about the S5 as I’m invested in M43 with 7 lenses and 3 bodies, so waiting for the GH6 before jumping.

How come you don't take the bike if you're on roads all day? On this occasions ou could have cycled to the other side of the valley in time for the mist. Still, thanks for the video - super inspirational as always.