High mobility systems demonstrated with operational overviews of the Pershing & Sergeant (nuclear capable), the Honest John MGR-1B (M50) 762mm, and the (M510) Little John 318mm MGR-3A (12:46).
I was a sergeant missel crewman back in 1973, we fired our 1st . one at Whitesands New Mexico for our operational readyness test before deploying overseas. 3rd of the 81st field artillery out of Fort Sill
@Magnus Arthur If you have to hack your girlfriends Instagram account then you have bigger problems than advertising some program that you probably get a kickback on
I was a radio/teletype operator in the Army back in 1962, and we had to fire either the honest john, or the little john missile every Saturday morning for a training exercise. The whole operation took about 4 hours. We usually was finished by about noon. We were all really glad to get it over with, because that meant we were off until Monday morning.....God, that was a long time ago.
That's interesting, there are people in the comments here saying they were in Vietnam and that there were no honest johns there. I happened to believe you though, sir.
@@therocinante3443 , I never said that I was in Viet Nam...I wasn't...I was deployed to Korea for 13 months, and had came back to the states. In 1962 I was stationed at Fort Sill, Oklahoma. That's where we fired the Honest John, and Little John missiles . We fired them in training exercises. I couldn't tell you if they had them in Viet Nam or not.
I was in the 5th of the 77th Field Artillery. It was a Sergeant missile unit based outside of Wiesbaden in early 1973. In the summer, we changed to the 1st of the 333rd and became the first Lance unit in all of Europe.
I was in an "Honest John" rocket unit in Ft. Hood in the '60's. I don't think a video can convey the experience of one of those things going off. They actually had VIP's in lawn chairs 50 feet away to bask in the experience. It's all over pretty quickly, the loudest WHUMP! you have ever heard and it's a tiny dot in the distance, blink you missed it. Then you have to repaint the launch truck, LOL!
No kidding… and how about that 30-minute deployment time - AFTER you get where you’re going! 13+ troops per shot? Cripes. (This from an ignorant, non-military viewer.)
From a former (21G20), Pershing crew member of the 3/9th FA and 3/84 FA Pershing units. "Hooray for Pershing 1A and Pershing II". - "We Gave Peace A Chance".
These missiles may have been used during the Vietnamese war years, but I don't believe they were ever used in Vietnam to my knowledge. If anyone has specific knowledge about any of these weapons used in Vietnam, I sure wish you can tell us about the incident, please.
13thBear Can't say that I have either. The possible exception may be the deployment of SAM systems to defend major bases like Da Nang, Cam Rahn Bay, Bien Hoa, etc.
Still fascinating technology. Especially when you look on what had to be done by mechanical instruments with some electronics support and what knowledge and skills the operators had to have in order to put it into an action or even more - to do repair is something did not work properly.
Agreed. This is analog systems I'm pretty sure. The computer is very very early digital, if it is digital lol. I'm guessing it's analog but I'm no expert. The 1970s brought in the age of the digital computer I think
The most anticlimactic job in the Army. All the driving, setting up, maintaining, and firing the missile and then it's "OK boys, let's pack it in and go home!"
It wouldn’t be that anti-climactic if it had a nuke strapped to it. That’s why most of these these were built, as tactical nukes. Thank god they were never used for that reason.
I did that job with the little John. In the late 60s that’s what I went in to be was a field artillery and rocketry man. I went to training and then they came around and assigned me to the army security agency. In the ASA I was an O5k
Jesus. My Dad fought on Guadalcanal & New Georgia. What came after made us all paranoid, fatalistic, and certain the world would be destroyed in our lifetimes.
McGregor firing range Ft. Bliss TX and White Sands Missile Range NM were training and test sites. Lots of Nike and Hawk variants as well. Mainly a Cold/Hot war tactical deterrent along Iron Curtain and N. Korea. Used to watch numerous rocket and missile tests with Raytheon contractors and Pentagon reps. Picnic at the dunes afterward or head out to hunt Quail and Dove at McGregor, just had to dodge snakes and unexploded ordinance.
In 1966 I went to Ft. Sill in OK with a group of other boys from the downtown San Antonio YMCA. We saw an Army firepower demonstration. Among other things they fired off an Honest John missile. Pretty wild. I wonder if they still do those demos?
And, you ignorant wehraboo, the Krauts got the technology from Robert Goddard who was firing near Roswell in the Thirties ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6nmM3hdI9ZE.html
@@colbeausabre8842 so what, does my comment express that that technology was invented by third reich? Also, pls be careful what you say, no need 2 b unnecessary some kind of nationalist or whatever ideological person. Thnx 4 yr info btw.
Big difference between solid and liquid fuel propellant . That little missile is close to 1/2 A megaton yield. After 5 minutes of flight P1A they have hit a target barge 200 miles off the cape out in the Atlantic.
My dad was in the 30th ABA. He was a SPEC-4 stationed in Okinawa. He told me he was responsible for launching Nike and Hawk missiles during the Vietnam war.
That was the CH-37 Mojave, one of the first American military heavy-lift helicopters and the largest Western helicopter at the time of its introduction. The pods each contain a Pratt & Whitney R2800 Double Wasp radial engine, the premier American engine of its type during WWII, as well as the retractable landing gear, which was new to helicopters at the time. The CH-37 was used for airlifting heavy loads, especially downed aircraft recovery, in VietNam and was succeeded by the CH-53.
@@arlingtonhynes Well, early on, airplane piston engines were the only choice and remained more reliable up until the introduction of turboshaft engines on the HU-1 "Huey". Modern aircraft piston engines are still used today for inexpensive lightweight helicopters.
@@Ms.Strahl As a toddler I was scared nigh-shitless of that bulging-ugly MF; painting cartoon eyes on those pods hardly made a difference: Thing is still gong-ugly today. The roundness of the pods covered Radial engines! It was all so iron-age back then, right down to the low-saturation green paint and the lack of chammies. Also, we had collectively forgotten about losing any war; we were still cherries in our own minds, naive, w/ WW2 experience and opinion suppressed, and a 'youth culture' emerging.
@@jamesbugbee6812 Well, I have a bit of a fondness for the odd-looking aircraft developed in the 1930's-1950's, especially the experimental ones. I suppose seeing them a lot in fiction where the creators were looking for designs that stood out may have had something to do with that, but also I just like the "air of whimsy", for lack of a better term, not that I'll deny that they're quite unseemly! I also prefer Drab Olive Green to the point of choosing models both physical and digital painted in it, especially over Desert Tan with certain theater-appropriate exceptions, but that's all just a stylistic choice of nostalgia for a bygone era. Sadly, that same "naive righteous youth culture" is still pushed today by would-be autocrats who depend on demagoguery to keep their geopolitical maneuvering from being questioned by the populace.
Seems like a lot of equipment, a lot of specific setups and a lot of manpower for a relatively weak and one-off (aside from nuclear) support system. To me it just doesn't really make sense to dedicate so much to it. And after firing, then what? Would be more meaningful to put those men and materials towards more traditional mortar and artillery. With these rocket systems being more specialized towards certain situations. Also a shame he last system footage gets cut off a bit. It looked more useful.
yeah,meanwhile russians improved this system, and today, one of these pieces of artillery took out a stealth plane over former iugoslavia. today, it's basically one big truck, with sensors, that can have 1 intercontinental ballistic missile, or more smaller ones. it's basically a multi purpose portable rocket silo.
US doctrine at the time was more concerned with the Soviet threat. These systems were designed to be used in 'deep battle' striking enemy forming up points, transport nexuses etc etc to disrupt the enemy from as far back into his own lines as possible.
it'sMe TheHerpes the system you describe was a dedicated air defense SAM system, not a theater ballistic missile shown in the video. That’s like comparing a wrench vs a hammer for which can tighten a bolt, it’s not a fair comparison
Anyone remember the first Pilot TV guided ROCKET/missile? I am trying to remember I'm not sure but I will say 1967. The TV let the pilot guide it right in a window.
The fact is that USA has a wide range of weapons , but they are not showing it to anyone , and its a fact , they first brought the first radio jamming techniques , for radioactive deconsulation , so you can think how advanced they are .
When I was in Nha Trang during the Vietnam War, the US Army deployed a Nike Missile system to protect the Nha Trang Airbase and military units nearby. But when the US military realized that North Vietnam was not capable of flying into South Vietnam for airborne bombing raids, the Nike Missile system was quickly packed up and sent back the stateside duty assignments to protect USA cities and military installations.
sir, the North could but chose not to if you read the document about the undercover communist spies among the Saigon Regime ranks, you will see there were a lot of South pilots they basically could if there were order or they went rogue in fact in the Fall of Saigon, on 8 April, a South Vietnamese pilot and communist, Nguyễn Thành Trung, bombed the Independence Palace and then flew to a PAVN-controlled airstrip
It looks that way, but it was all for the show at Ft. Sill. Fired from a big live fire demonstration site, West to an impact area far out of sight. They sometimes improvised with a fuel drum explosion within sight....so the spectators would be impressed with a "splash".
A cold and callous way of thought, but as one gazed upon the waxy like features of the white g.i. , the grayish pallid of the. black g. I. , both.dead, both of them torn apart by either the impact.of the AK round, or the destruction. bought about by a rpm, all that one would think was ' better him than me' I am a former grunt , years '66- 68. 4th infantry division, South Vietnam.
He uses solid rocket motor propellant, instead of the traditionally used oregano, in his pizza sauce recipe to achieve the crappy taste that is the hallmark and calling card of his restaurant chain and it's so called "pizza".
The Russians must've rolled on the floor , laughing when they saw these ancient V-2 Rocket copies. Compared to these , the Soviet FROG and SCUD missiles where light years ahead in the 1960's.
You should read up more on history. The Soviet FROG and SCUD were 1960s technology. The Honest John rocket shown in this video was deployed in the early 1950s.
d e austin: I was school-trained on the Pershing Missile when I was at Fort Sill in the early eighties. Then to Europe. We fired them live in Greece, once. Very interesting work.
If we had used the Pershing - I on Hanoi, or better yet the port of Haiphong, the war would have been over . 400 kiloton nuclear warhead, about 20x the yield of the weapon used on Hiroshima.
