The UCI Needs to Change This... 

I think the UCI needs to increase the weight limit. These girly boys that look like toothpicks do not represent of the 99.9 people even in the club rides that enjoy competing with each other. Bring back the cyclist image from 40 or 50 years ago. People like Eddy Merckx were animals on the bike. Racing wasn't like a chess match of time and boring to watch. And it was done on steel bikes that were actually safer to ride. For me what cycling has become is a joke. Seriously, I don't even watch Pro racing anymore because I just don't care to watch what I'm seeing when I do.

Absolutely need lower the 6.8 limit .

I don't care about UCI rules 😂

The limit should stay the same. Not all brands are able to reach it for all sizes.

Something about forcing the newer standards on entry-level bicycles, so people who are starting in the sport can upgrade their frames with better components, instead of them ending up in a waste.

yea because a lot of teams are getting to the point where the bikes they are making are considered no heavy enough

The s5 is almost a tt bike, it's amazing good looking

As a 57kg rider I couldn't agree anymore. lol

@@vietnguyen4312 +1 for 57kg rider + high ftp :D

If weight limit goes down, then they need to ditch the wheelbase and setback/reach limits for us taller/bigger guys so we can get as aero as you little guys.

Agree. Every time I watch Gaia Realini race. At 40 kg, she does amazingly despite the relative weight disadvantage. But would be cool to see bike weight and geometry restrictions scaled better for people on either end of the extremes.

Weight limit goes down you can expect the prices to go up even more for little to no gain.

UCI demands that pro bikes are sold to the public So companies need to make bikes for that public. But brands that are out of the UCI spectrum, is just dumb keeping making bikes for them and not for the people

@@bernardo9202 Good point, totally understand the need for homologation in pro cycling, just that my point is that bike companies can do whatever they want to win customers and Specialized, for one, has done that with a below-UCI-weight road bike. And of course the industry as a whole has been doing that en mass ever since whenever and I was a beneficiary of that when Schwinn rolled out the 20" Sting-Ray bicycle for kids in the 1960s. That bike was inspired by kids in Southern California modifying their 20" bikes to look like motorcycle choppers with bicycle polo saddles and high-rise handlebars. A Schwinn rep was tipped off to that, returned to Chicago and within a short period the Schwinn Sting-Ray was in production and for the next decade-plus, that was the coolest bike a kid in the States could ride. And lots of us didn't ride them like choppers, we rode them like motocross motorcycles, lol. Or like Evel Knievel and his Harley. And then came BMX bikes, thanks to kids racing their Sting-Rays in the original BMX races, and mountain bikes and even that, production mountain bikes, shared the market at their inception with 26" single-speed bikes produced for the BMX Cruiser Class and my first 26" was a Mongoose purchased at a bike shop in San Mateo, California in March '82. It was a great off-road bike and a fond memory is riding it in the California desert a couple of weeks later. All of that to say a big tip of the hat to the bike creators for cooking up great bikes for us to ride and, well, race each other and right now I am building up a 26" full-rigid compact-frame '90s Specialized for gravel events, better BB and cranks and cockpit, just original frame and wheels and cantis. And I'll run 1.5s for that need for speed and it will be a fun bike, an homage to BMX and mountain bikes for some good-time gravel And maybe a ribbon in the over-60 class. 😀.

Also there are conventional wire spoked wheels like Corima (and older Bontrager, Rolf, etc) that use paired spokes, creating gaps already bigger than a hypothetical 12 spoke limit...farther proving how antiquated the rule is.

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But its fugly😅

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yea factor looks a little more tucked

its becoming more popular so more normalized

not really

The bicycle was perfected long ago. Perhaps the next innovation is some kind of more advanced material than carbon.

the world wasnt as driven for new stuff they were more content

I agree that the new Madone is a fantastic looking bike.

I'm 62, just bought a new SL-8. Wanna race?

I love my SL7 Madone. It's a head turner and the Isoflow always is a conversation starter. Love how unique it looks.

@@happydays8171 No thanks! only been riding since 2019 just doing it to stay fit at my age. That's awesome that you are 62 and probably riding longer than I have

@@andrewa.3304 Haha, thanks for the reply. I go to the crits in the area, I'm the only on e in the masters, so they put me in with 35 yr olds. Thought maybe I'd not finish last for once. Enjoy your new ride, good to see you in cycling.

yea really makes no difference thats the say for tarmac sl8 there is no need for aero bike if this bike is more aero then venge and at legal limit for weight

I don't agree, as a poor peasant who likes racing. It's not fair that I have to compete on a +8kg bike while there are people on sub 7kg aero bikes

@@runl6117 were talking about pro UCI races. Are you a pro on an 8kg bike?

@@justinmiller7083 these rules are not just for the pro's. They also apply to any race that is organised by a national federation

I mean yea they make them over there but alot of companies headquarters are state side and they design the frames on site, and then mass produce over sea so they should have some sort of differents but now I think wind tunnels are big plays in designs

lol this is true, giant propel is a top bike for me

An xs bike that weighs 13lbs could potentially be stronger and safer than a 15lb xl bike. Mostly due to the rider. It's just really obvious how dumb the rule is, it can never and will never be a one size fits all.

Weight is mostly in the components. Whether the frame itself weights 800 or 600 grams it's just not going to do anything.

@@brankododig1585 so a smaller rider should benefit from saving those 200 grams, plus as you said components weigh more, so they should also benefit from smaller bars and tires, seat post, ect... smaller riders lose more than big riders when it comes to aero as well because they generally put out less power so the effects of air pressure and weight effects them more on flats and down hill. a small guy with an xs bike has to have a 15lb bike vs a guy with an xl bike, both 15lbs? it doesnt make sense. and these uber light frames are not safe, durable, practical, or environmentally friendly. yes weight is mostly in components and wheels, so lets make frames even lighter to make up for heavy components, thats the problem. theres a huge difference with a 600 gram xs frame vs 600 gram xl frame. i wouldnt want to ride that 600 gram xl frame if i was 6ft plus, 200lb plus guy. compare that to a 110lb female. its the exact thing as having the aero bar position rule made to fit riders of different sizes. its not a one size fits all, it never is or never will be. guess what, height is less consequential when it comes to safety vs power and weight, because power and weight is what puts stress on these brittle carbon parts that make it past qc and basic engineering practices, end up in consumers hands causing harm due to failures.

lol what you mean? I leave them, I do not delete any comments, but I get alot of hate, its the internet

Just wondering how you deal with the internet. It can be nasty af sometimes

I’d say more than 0.01 percent of cyclist race. I have tons of friends who ride and race and we all have to adhere to the UCI rules.

People bitch about UCI as if they know how to run UCI

Whatever the UCI says, frame manufacturers have to adhere to. He cares because it affects the products he sells

Its not for racing, its for bicycle production and limits of what they can make, they are limited to follow rules the two triangle rules or specific designs for illegal aero gains or a weight limit for a bike, this is stopping the creativity and putting us at a plateau for future bike releases, which I do care about... my shifters are tilted all the way in so I dont care abnout the uci but imagine if weight limit was 6kg now we have companies making top tier bikes 6kg weights mid to low tier 6.8-7kg maybe a new design of a bike where it doesn't need a seatpost all the way down to the crank.... something different

missed the point of the video, I make bikes under 6.8kg and also tuirn shifters all the way I do not care about uci rules but it affects what bike companies make bikes for

Organize your own race and your rules

the 02 seatpost throws me off

my dads dad bought the store 42 years ago, my dad owned the store from him, and then he gave it to me and my brother, I have been working in that shop for over 12 years, but the bicycle industry has been in my life the whole time, we sold trek giant jamis, cannondale pinarello, felt a ton of brands, we sold trek when lance armstrong was winning the tours.... if I wasnt working there it was being discussed through our house hold, also have made it throughh tough times like 08 recession and other events