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The ULTIMATE Explorers of Sky Team Tier List | Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 

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Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky has a WONDERFUL collection of brilliant characters, both within the plot and outside of it. From the NPCs who shape the entire game, to the ones that seemily only exist to fill up the background, Chunsoft did a phenomenal job of making sure this game feels truly alive! But not every NPC exploration team can get the same amount of love and attention, so which teams are the best of the best, and which fall flat? Find out with me as I rank each and every one of these PMD exploration teams in the ultimate Exploration Team tier list!
Content Warning: Mentions of Vore
I used some poochyena fursuit pics in this video, the details of each suit and picture can be found in the following links:
www.furtrack.com/p/112978
www.furtrack.com/p/271638
www.furtrack.com/p/351011
Also huge shout outs to @cosmicgazer for their original video of the Team Tasty dialogue at the beach, stumbling across that video completely on accident is what made me realize just how much more complex some of these teams are, and what encouraged me to make this video. They have plenty of videos about PMD, Pokémon Showdown, and Pokémon Mystery Universe (the PMD MMO) so please go watch their original video here and show them some love!: • A Sweet Moment Between...
This video would not be possible without SkyTemple, both the tool itself for providing all the information I needed about the Pokemon in these teams, and members of the discord server for helping me find some of the more obscure cutscenes, such as the Team Raider one at the end. Check out SkyTemple, the PMD Sky Rom editor, here: skytemple.org
And again... sorry for all the vore jokes...
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Introduction
1:16 Team Glee
2:40 Team Skull
3:45 Team Ebony
5:06 Team Seedgey
5:37 Team Tasty
8:02 Guild Stuff (Unranked)
9:27 Team Poochy
10:22 Team AWD
11:58 Team Charm
12:56 Team Flame
14:43 Team Slacker
15:12 Team Razor Wind
16:12 Team Frontier
17:38 Team Sneasle
18:26 Team Raider
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@bastienbovard8159
@bastienbovard8159 6 месяцев назад
Wait you mentioned Pmd hacks? Do anybody has more informations about this?
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
Yes! There’s a huge PMD romhacking community due to the hacking tool called SkyTemple! The tool’s website even has a catalogue of publicly available hacks over at hacks.skytemple.org/
@bastienbovard8159
@bastienbovard8159 6 месяцев назад
@@ODISeth I'm glad to see this ! I remember several years ago, people were saying a pmd Hack was too much trouble to make. And now we have dedicated tools !
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
@@bastienbovard8159 Yeah! PMD Sky hacks are now fairly easy! There are plenty of really good story hacks like Explorers of the Spirit, and some fun gameplay ones too like the SkyTemple Randomizer
@hanselbarlowe2575
@hanselbarlowe2575 6 месяцев назад
@@bastienbovard8159 the one i play got mega evolution but permanent though
@eeveeextreme
@eeveeextreme 6 месяцев назад
Me, starting this video: Team Tasty S-tier or riot
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
Nyehehehe
@cyberbitterdragon
@cyberbitterdragon 5 месяцев назад
Fun fact: in the Italian adaptation of EoS, Team Tasty has a very cute pun. It’s called Team Mangio. Which can be intented as Team “I eat”, Mangio being the present for the eating verb. But it can also be intended as a similiar sounding phrase “Ti mangio”, which means “I’m gonna eat you” and fits perfectly for the Swellow Wurmple relationship lmao
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
OH THATS PERFECT
@detectivewobbuffet2778
@detectivewobbuffet2778 Месяц назад
Wow, non me ne ero mai accorto.
@GuilhermeMarques-wz7sm
@GuilhermeMarques-wz7sm 6 месяцев назад
Finally someone speaks out about the horrific murder of Graveler by Team Charm
@EiscueBall
@EiscueBall 6 месяцев назад
When you back to the place where injured Sneasel was staying at, Ampharos will tell you that he escaped but he left a gift for you, which was a gold ticket. I don't think I saw him again
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
Oh shit I never caught that, good catch! Still sad we don’t get more story relevance from him though
@SheiinX
@SheiinX 6 месяцев назад
I have a theory that Roserade might be the Budew from Wigglytuff's special episode. Wigglytuff should definitely know a Budew/Roserade.
@nidohime6233
@nidohime6233 6 месяцев назад
Mmm, it could be.
@Riolu0214
@Riolu0214 5 месяцев назад
That’s a really good point. So many PMD2 things that I never put together :)))
@Zlixlriffs
@Zlixlriffs 5 месяцев назад
The team Tasty scenes read like a BL where one of the characters is really shy and doesn't think highly of himself and the love interest is really flirty but doesn't take anything seriously until the climactic confession scene happens
@two-robinjays
@two-robinjays 6 месяцев назад
i loved Team Tasty as a kid, but i had no idea they had such a cute ending :0 i love them even more now!!
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
They’re so cute and aaaaa I love them
@ramrd5779
@ramrd5779 5 месяцев назад
Team Tasty and Team Ebony really be giving that MlM and WlW solidarity. Wish someone makes a hack where they either go on a double date or gp adventuring together while being gay.
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
That sounds like a really fun idea!
@Jam-oi4so
@Jam-oi4so 6 месяцев назад
ive never heard of anyone who sees team ebony as the goth wlw couple they truly are so THANK YOU for getting it edit: also team tasty love ❤
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
That’s them!!! That’s who they are, and more PMD fans should know that
@EiscueBall
@EiscueBall 6 месяцев назад
What a fun idea of a tierlist
@carnabybeat
@carnabybeat 6 месяцев назад
Reading through each of the teams' dialogue was one of my favourite things to do during downtime in PMD! It really made the world of exploration teams feel so much more lively and diverse c: Great tier list and it's always the best to see more PMD videos from you!!
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
Aye I’m glad you enjoyed the video! And yeah, it’s been a hot minute since I’ve done PMD stuff on this channel but I’m thinking of doing more after Christmas. Maybe some romhack stuff?
@carnabybeat
@carnabybeat 6 месяцев назад
@@ODISeth Yes please!! 😁 Honestly I have yet to dive into the world of PMD rom hacks myself so I'd love to see some playthroughs :) Have a great Christmas!!
@mawdewile
@mawdewile 6 месяцев назад
Now THIS is what I call a tier list!!
@pageclayton6850
@pageclayton6850 6 месяцев назад
Humble brag, I knew about Team Raider my first playthrough. They stuck out to me cause 2 of my favourite pokemon (Gallade and Roserade) are both in the team Wish we couldve seen more of them
@thecatsatrick
@thecatsatrick 6 месяцев назад
1:16 Team Glee 2:40 Team Skull 3:45 Team Ebony 5:06 Team Seedgey 5:37 Team Tasty 8:02 Guild Stuff (Unranked) 9:27 Team Poochy 10:22 Team AWD 11:58 Team Charm 12:56 Team Flame 14:43 Team Slacker 15:12 Team Razor Wind 16:12 Team Frontier 17:38 Team Sneasle 18:26 Team Raider
@Espik_23
@Espik_23 6 месяцев назад
I disagree about Team Skull being well-written, but I really like this list
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
I'm curious why you disagree with them being well written! I think their motivation is a bit rough, but in terms of how they make their plans, and how they all act after being defeated in Brine Cave, I think that stuff is very realistic and shows a side of "villains" you rarely ever see
@Espik_23
@Espik_23 6 месяцев назад
@@ODISeth I disagree. They’re generically evil with no inherent relation to the plot at all, the only time you battle them is at Beach Cave and you don’t even fight Skunktank at all, and they completely disappear after Brine Cave. Their scenes in the guild are just poorly written. First of all, none of the guildmates say anything about them or raise a concern to Chatot/Wigglytuff. The whole scene after Apple Woods in the guild is just terrible - Chatot never even gives your team a chance to say anything. And despite Chatot being somewhat clever, he doesn’t see through the facade Team Skull imposes on the guild. Wigglytuff I can forgive since he makes friends with everyone, but other than that, it seems like the writers artificially designed their arc to infuriate the players in the worst way possible.
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
@@Espik_23 that sounds less like an issue with how team skull is written and more like an issue with how the guild is written. I will admit they’re pretty generic in terms of how evil they are, but I think complexity is not the same as being well written. Many of the best villains were extremely simple in one note I think maleficent from sleeping beauty, yet despite that they were still Really well written. In defense of the guild though, I think based on every guild member’s characterization, the way that they act in response to team skull makes sense. Loudred is the first to speak up and complain about team skull when they first join the expedition, but is quickly shut down by Chatot, which scares a lot of the other members. Which tracks cause it’s not until much later when you return from the future that anyone actually stands up against Chatot, hell even then Dugtrio sides with him in refusing to believe the player’s story. Chatot refusing to let the player team get a word in makes sense, he’s head of intelligence and that pretty clearly gets to his head, refusing to even consider that his most basic assumptions could ever be wrong. I think all of that interaction, no matter how frustrating, is well written! It doesn’t feel artificial to me, it aligns with the guild’s characterization throughout the whole story.
@Nameless_mixes
@Nameless_mixes 5 месяцев назад
I think the PSMD reference is referring to how plenty of characters you interact with will bring up references from the previous three games (Rescue Team, Explorers, Gates). So, Skuntank’s dialogue references Team Skull. But it’s hard to say if any of that is actually canon since the entire game feels more like a love letter and homage to the series than strictly being it’s own thing.
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
Yeah that was my understanding of it too, it’s cool, but I don’t know if it’s canon and if we should assume Team Skull survived
@SpottyGem
@SpottyGem 5 месяцев назад
Personally team poochey is my fav but that's prob just my bias towards the poochyena line lol
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
They’re super cute!!!
@dontstartfenty1291
@dontstartfenty1291 5 месяцев назад
Team charm is so iconic im sorry, legit the best explorer team from every pokemon md game
@WildWeavile
@WildWeavile 6 месяцев назад
It's been a while since I watched one of your videos, but admittedly, you still haven't lost your charm! Love your PMD content!
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
Aye fair! I know a lotta folks only watch me for PMD stuff, which, I haven’t been making those videos very often recently. But I’ve been honing my craft of both editing and style through all my other videos, and through the videos I’ve been editing for other RU-vidrs too! It’s nice to return to this community with all the skills I’ve grown and show an aspect of this game not many focus on
@LimLom438
@LimLom438 6 месяцев назад
Team Tasty's ending had me taken by surprise - they're so gay and I love them Evidently Lapras wanted to give them privacy and instantly gets ready to leave. Either that or he just doesn't care-
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
They’re so gay and so into vore and I want nothing but the best for them
@LimLom438
@LimLom438 6 месяцев назад
@@ODISeth so true 🙏 I hope they get a special episode like Team Charm did, if there's ever a remake. A one-off adventure with them would be fun
@standard-carrier-wo-chan
@standard-carrier-wo-chan 5 месяцев назад
Broooo I never even knew of Team Tasty and now they're one of my most favourite teams.
@lexalexagon
@lexalexagon 6 месяцев назад
I'm finally getting validation for my Team Charm hate. I've been a Team Charm hater since I first played the game because I was just wondering why everybody likes them so much when they're actually just eh
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
I’m surprised how many people agree with me tbh I thought I was getting flamed
@dragonmage372
@dragonmage372 5 месяцев назад
It's the theme song. It's the gosh darn theme song.
@davidyohe7879
@davidyohe7879 6 месяцев назад
Great vid I love how you go in depth for why you've put them where you have
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
Thank you! Yeah this was a month’s worth of recording, documenting, and crosschecking every line of dialogue, every move, every stat, all of it. I got a LOT of detail and I’m glad I could share it with y’all!
@colton13wright
@colton13wright 5 месяцев назад
Freaking love this video and idea! Great work!
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! I’m very proud of the video, and I am very happy with the idea as well. I have a few more ideas of a similar vein, excited to make them
@Thewavedemonjackal
@Thewavedemonjackal 5 месяцев назад
I don’t think the guild apprentices have teams. Sunflora and Loudred weren’t exploring when he saved her. It happened during a special episode where she was sent alone to apprehend Haunter but was cornered by some slugma and Loudred just went in to save her cuz she’s a grass type against poison types and these two fire types
@turulszervac1714
@turulszervac1714 Месяц назад
I completely agree with putting Team Tasty in S tier. And I'm impressed by the amount of research you put into this. As for not playing Bidoof's special episode, I still recommend it. It was actually good, story-wise. I played PMD Explorers of Time and Darkness and finished it considering Bidoof my least favorite character but his special episode in Sky made me do a 180.
@ODISeth
@ODISeth Месяц назад
Thanks! Yeah I, work long and hard on my scripted vids, and I love PMD so it’s worth it. I have played Bidoof’s Wish a few times, it’s a great episode for sure, but… it just also just wasn’t quite worth playing for a video like this. Since nobody filmed interactions with all the NPC teams I went through the game to do so myself, and uhhh, it did get a bit exhausting lol
@PascalTyranitar
@PascalTyranitar 6 месяцев назад
I never knew of this channel before but I was pleasantly surprised by how cool you seem! Definitely looking forward to more content like this in the future :> Also I've yet to play BRT but I definitely wish Team ACT reappeared just so we could see a Tyranitar character in this game x3
@Celph_Titled
@Celph_Titled 6 месяцев назад
Its the return of the cute furcon shiiiiirt! Pretty fair ranking with absolutely no bias! But everyone knows ACT is best team!
@pikaqte5418
@pikaqte5418 6 месяцев назад
I can't watch this right now but I can't wait to see who you put where!
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
Aye fair enough! I’ll plop this reply into your notifications in case ya wanna check back later haha
@nico1520
@nico1520 6 месяцев назад
This is the first video i've seen from you, and you seem very chill and cool. You gained a sub :)
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
Aww thank you!
@nidohime6233
@nidohime6233 6 месяцев назад
Team AWD seems to be planned to have a bigger role than the one present in the game. I remember a short comic along with the spanish Nintendo Acción magazine where they are the bad guys agaisnt a Chimchar (the human protagonist) and their partner Turtwig. At least they do show up in Explorers of Sky sidestories. 19:20 I think they are meant to be very obscure on purpose to only been known by word of mouth among children at school. They are like meeting a famous celebrity you never thought to ever meet in your entire life.
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
I do think the same thing, with how secretive they are at first and the dynamic they have with Team Charm in their special episode, it definitely feels like they were supposed to have a larger role, and were cut out for some reason. Which, yeah is a shame
@tophatwolf
@tophatwolf 5 месяцев назад
Hey, nice video! I'm glad RU-vid recommended this to me, you seem fun :P (and btw your fursona is super cute) Always good to see PMD getting some love hehe
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
Thanks! Yeah I had a blast making this video. And awww thank you, I love my sona haha
@Wosprig
@Wosprig 5 месяцев назад
I don’t know this for a fact but I feel like Team AWD is maybe a little nod to Team ACT from Rescue Team, just because of the names. I could be reaching, though ahahah! Speaking of Rescue Team, though, one of my favourite PMD headcanons is that Medicham from Team Charm is the same one who was part of Team Meanies in Rescue Team.
@MinishMae
@MinishMae 6 месяцев назад
It's so cool how there's so many NPC teams that literally vibe throughout the story and you get to see their growth 😭I love this game so much man ;; Team Glee and Team AWD is the best Although, that Team Charm slander is fightin' words >:(
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
Team Charm was ranked exactly where they deserve nyehehehe
@MinishMae
@MinishMae 6 месяцев назад
@@ODISeth Okay Papyrus 🥱
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
@@MinishMae I got so mad at Undertale for making Papyrus laugh like that cause that’s ALWAYS been the way I laughed online and suddenly it’s ruined
@dankstermcmeme
@dankstermcmeme 6 месяцев назад
I don’t even play Pokémon but this was still super fun and funny! Also, cute shirt
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
Aye well I’m glad ya enjoyed it regardless! And YES I love this shirt too, I got it at a furcon, it’s by Artsea Animal, highly recommend checking them out they’ve got a ton of great designs
@BuckBlaziken
@BuckBlaziken 5 месяцев назад
Imo the best team is Team Tasty, not only are they silly but they have a genuine feel good moment where Wurmple find out he’s cherished by his partner, Swellow
@stargirlfelicia
@stargirlfelicia 6 месяцев назад
Great video! Very entertaining, and HARD agree on your controversial team Charm take. New subscriber!
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 4 месяца назад
Hm, I see, fair and valid points and opinions, this was very interesting and i appreciate that you pointed all of these Teams out like this, i would really like to see more of these Teams at some point, speaking of which, it has come to my attention that Super Mystery Dungeon had some Cameos (I guess) from previous Titles, so maybe you could make a Video about the ones who made sort of a Comeback in Super Mystery Dungeon, if you’re interested? By the way, Team Razor Wind did have sort of a Role in one of the PMD OVAs, in case you didn’t know since you didn’t mention it. Also, Explorers of the Spirit? What is that about? You said it was a RomHack, but it sounded like it was considered Canon. Oh and another thing, have you done other Ranking Videos?
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 4 месяца назад
I don’t do ranking videos often, but I have done a few. The most notable one is my Pokemon Stadium Minigame Tier List. Explorers of the Spirit is a fanmade romhack that serves as a sequel to Explorers of Sky! It’s extremely good and I reference it a lot due to the fact that I did a playthrough of it just about over a year ago. It continues the story in a fascinating way, while providing unique gameplay challenges as well
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 4 месяца назад
@@ODISeth hm, I see, fair enough, interesting.
@kalypso4013
@kalypso4013 6 месяцев назад
Could it be possible that the rosarade from team raider is the budew from wigglytuffs special episode?
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
I, hadn’t thought of that! That would make sense. Not sure if that would improve my ranking of team Raider as a whole but that’s still neat
@floralilly5374
@floralilly5374 28 дней назад
I'm sad to not see Heracross and Zigzagoon on this list with how they pull the fun twist of the two creating their team during the Sky Peak arc but otherwise, very fun tier list
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 28 дней назад
I, straight up did not know about that, heck! There were a few combos of characters I left out cause I didn’t think they qualified but this is the first I just, did not know. Dang, my apologies! I’m curious where you’d place them relative everyone else on this list?
@floralilly5374
@floralilly5374 28 дней назад
@ODISeth I'd probably give them a B or A rank! You don't get a team name out of them, but the way they find each other as Sky Peak updates with each post game chapter just hits a bit differently. They're the only occurrence we see of a team actually being formed proper and I really like that! Plus Heracross can learn Fury Attack and Zigzagoon's got a niche with Pickup
@0ctavius
@0ctavius 5 месяцев назад
Never played this game before but I’ve started streaming a randomizer blind so I can’t wait to bastardize this beloved tale
@clafoutis89
@clafoutis89 6 месяцев назад
Lol rip graveler
@honeyslime7178
@honeyslime7178 5 месяцев назад
About teams returning in super PMD. There are some teams/characters that make cameos as NPCs in that game. These are for the most part plot relevant teams, guild members or Pokémon from the side stories. I wouldn't consider them canon tho and as far as I remember there dialogue doesn't give you any new information.
@Psyoid
@Psyoid 6 месяцев назад
Charm and Raider always got me wondering about what other higher level Pokemon combinations could be out there as Explorer teams. Something about all three members being in their final evolution stage gives them that imposing 'professional' vibe, which isn't all that surprising now that I think about it. You're 100% right though, Team Charm are ranked right where they belong. In the trash.
@angels.3686
@angels.3686 5 месяцев назад
Regarding guilds and forming teams - From what I can tell, guilds are a combination of further education and training, as well as a classic fantasy guild where job requests get sent in. By being a part of a guild and getting the proper graduation and training, you get connections with law enforcement as well as information and training. If you don't join a guild, you're closer to the "bounty hunter" type like AWD where guilds might still let you take their jobs, for a fee, but won't outright give you information nor connections nor care about you if you ever go missing on a big job. You can form a team yourself in-advance when you go to the guild, but it's also a part of joining the guild that you make friends with guildmates and can get the chance to try different move combinations and form your own teams with other members that you think work well, which can be finalised properly into teams. Reading the diaries, you notice talk of discourse and not WANTING to go on missions with each other anymore. Of course, non-guild teams wouldn't get that same level of "trying things out". In theory, being a guild non-graduate, a part of the fees would probably also mean you're guaranteed room and food since the guild takes 90% of your direct income (as long as you don't get punished for failing to bring back Perfect Apples) - not something we as players need to worry about, but I couldn't help but notice that you never have dinner like you would in the Mess Hall, after graduating.
@Flarefan60
@Flarefan60 5 месяцев назад
Honestly, I'm *certain* that, as the writers of PMD2 intended, they just flat out *DIED*.
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
Yeah honestly I’m 99.9% sure that was the intent. Which absolutely WILD to think about
@Thedragonlover95
@Thedragonlover95 5 месяцев назад
At least AWD didn't murder! Team Charm, i'm sorry, but you make the group of Thieves seem more reasonable and honorable
@patricklatham3897
@patricklatham3897 5 месяцев назад
Bidoof isn't that bad. Apart from having to deal with lots of enemies that defensively resist you and also have to survive Team Rogue, the Snover of which makes the weather hail from the getgo. But if you beat it, you can get access to Wish Cave in the mian game randomly down the line AND recruit Jirachi possibly, which is a treat for those who never could get their hands on one for the main Pokemon games but liked the Jirachi movie. Also, ever beat the toughest dungeon in the whole game? I haven't, but if you do, you get a good hold item AND get to see an Arceus Cameo as a reward in the form of a statue erected to His Magnificence.
@FifteenO8
@FifteenO8 3 месяца назад
Quality video! 👌
@guyofever
@guyofever 5 месяцев назад
4:42 idk what i was expecting but nothing could have prepared me for this
@IsaacPK
@IsaacPK 4 месяца назад
Love this game, so much nostalgia
@V.Guardia
@V.Guardia 5 месяцев назад
The second biggest crime of Team Charm is Super Mystery Dungeon implying that the Gardevoir in that team is the same Gardevoir from Rescue Team
@shensei4
@shensei4 5 месяцев назад
blessed tier list~
@stephvondames6369
@stephvondames6369 5 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas everyone
@KingTwelveSixteen
@KingTwelveSixteen 5 месяцев назад
I can't believe Team Charm murdered a fellow explorer like that and just got away with it. #justiceforgraveler
@ShimmeringVapidCoal
@ShimmeringVapidCoal 6 месяцев назад
Only Sky? Are you going to do Rescue Team as well? I wonder how the two different kinds of teams would compare...
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
Maybe in the future! I thought about doing it, but I’m not as familiar with the “behind the scenes” tools for the Rescue Team games as I am with SkyTemple for Sky. Plus from my own memory, I think the Rescue Team games only have 6 rescue teams: Meanies, ACT, Constrictor, Hydro, Rumblerock, and Shifty. If I were to do a video on the Rescue Teams, I’m not sure how entertaining it’d be only looking at 6 teams, though I could try to see if there are any differences between Red/Blue and DX in how the teams are portrayed…
@volvagia2131
@volvagia2131 5 месяцев назад
When you said "Bidoof is" at 8:39 I heard it as "Bidoofus" as in a portmanteau of Bidoof and doofus
@Subscribble
@Subscribble 5 месяцев назад
As someone who knows almost NOTHING about Pokémon and is using this video as my primary source of education/information towards the franchise... I find Wurmple and Sneasel to be very relatable. Mostly Wurmple though. If anyone asks me who the main character of the Pokémon series is, I'll tell 'em it's Wurmple!
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
Gee I wonder why that might be >:3c
@decimeter2573
@decimeter2573 6 месяцев назад
why is team charm ranked so high
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
THANK YOU
@gabrielevalentini4438
@gabrielevalentini4438 5 месяцев назад
10:30: Ah yes, the Team All-Wheel Drive
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
They’ve gotta get to Zero Isle somehow!
@moon_dazer
@moon_dazer 6 месяцев назад
Wait noooo I loved Team Seedgey since they’re just two adorable little Pokemon together 🥺🥺🥺
@gingerkays7362
@gingerkays7362 5 месяцев назад
I’m a little disappointed you didn’t give mention to Team Speedrun (I’m calling them that because their ultimate goal is to save time), that being Celebi, Dusknoir, and the leader Grovyle. They definitely go in S tier
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
That’s a great name for them haha! I thought about including them, but I ultimately thought they didn’t qualify as while they were allies in the special episode, they weren’t exactly an official exploration team, no official name or whatnot. I see them as a temporary alliance, like how the player teams up with Bidoof while traveling to Fogbound Lake or Chatot at Brine Cave. But also, yeah if I had ranked them they’d probably be S tier, they’re a wonderful team and have by far the most characterization of any NPCs in the game.
@joelowes7893
@joelowes7893 6 месяцев назад
If you could make an npc team what would it be called and what Pokemon would be in it and what would they be like? Team Sub zero Members: Walrein (leader a friendly laughing guy who acts as leader and tank) Frolass (the team brains tactfully chooses the most dangerous jobs for the team to face) Alolan Sandslash (to show the teams diverse nature Alolan sandslash has connections all over the mystery dungeon world so team sub zero can explore the most frigid of peaks) The idea: Ice type power house team Frolass knows hail and walrein knows blizzard is often a combo used on monster houses or particularly dangerous outlaws many jails cells are in fact just the outlaw in cases in a block of ice curtesy of team sub zero
@toumabyakuya
@toumabyakuya 5 месяцев назад
I think you were too harsh with Team Charm. You said that one of your reasons for why they are so low is because they are too weak in their Special Episode but that is the idea, it is a flashback to a point in time when they were still starting as an exploration Team, making them be powerful then would have just broken the immersion.
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
I’d buy that reasoning if they also didn’t constantly call themselves undefeated in the Special Episode and acted like they were already the best team in the world. Even back then it’s all showboating with… nothing to show for it
@toumabyakuya
@toumabyakuya 5 месяцев назад
@@ODISeth *"I’d buy that reasoning if they also didn’t constantly call themselves undefeated in the Special Episode"* Seeing how they are starting I wouldn't be surprised if they just fought weaker teams and always won. It wouldn't be the first time something like this happens. *"...and acted like they were already the best team in the world. Even back then it’s all showboating with… nothing to show for it"* Dude, you just describe how a lot of newbies tend to act when they first start doing something. Believe it or not, it is realistic for a team to start thinking they are at the top of the world and then meet face first with reality.
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
@@toumabyakuya yeah, and does that make you like them? Or does it make you wanna see them get put in their place?
@toumabyakuya
@toumabyakuya 5 месяцев назад
@@ODISeth The former. Especially because of two reasons: 1.-) They are just starting, so is to be expected that they have some parts of their personalities to improve. 2.-) They are still good persons, as seen with how they had no problems helping others like Wigglytuff.
@genousity3908
@genousity3908 Месяц назад
HOW did I miss this?
@ODISeth
@ODISeth Месяц назад
Nyehehehe
@DarkEspeon40K
@DarkEspeon40K 5 месяцев назад
I will NOT tolerate this Team Charm SLANDER
@sereneaurora965
@sereneaurora965 5 месяцев назад
Yeah just because he can't tolerate the femininity of Team Charm doesn't mean the masculinity of Team ACT should replace them 😬
@saklee1777
@saklee1777 4 месяца назад
U forgot to rate the Pokémon u play as’s team. and grovyle’s team and dusknoir’s team. They’re not really explorers but dusknoir has his sabeleye minions and the leader dialga. And grovyle was a little team with the main player.
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 4 месяца назад
Can’t forget if it was an intentional decision! This video was focused on NPC Exploration teams. The player team is by definition, a player character team, so they were excluded (plus I didn’t wanna try and identify all the different combos and synergies, that’s for a different video). The other teams aren’t actually exploration teams, they’re companions sure, but in the same way that Bidoof and Sunflora are, they work together sometimes but nothing official. Plus they have a heavy plot focus, these teams don’t, I wanted to highlight the teams you don’t think about often
@PizzaRatJC
@PizzaRatJC 5 месяцев назад
Edit: corrected in first replies, this is wrong, they didn't do a kill I feel it should have been mentioned team skull MAYBE just killed the old torkoal?? They took the dude away and he never came back, theyjust decided to do permanent faint on a guy one time
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
Actually he comes back to the Hot Spring after that! He’s never story relevant again and doesn’t visit TT, so most people don’t know he’s still alive cause… I mean why would you go back to the Hot Spring. But yeah he’s still there after the Brine Cave/Hidden Land situation
@PizzaRatJC
@PizzaRatJC 5 месяцев назад
@@ODISeth oh, well that's nice to know. Thanks!
@DrCoeloCephalo
@DrCoeloCephalo 5 месяцев назад
I really hate it when people use phrases like _"character coding"_ To me, it just comes off as trying to pull something from nothing. Like saying Corphish is _"Fat Albert coded"_ because he says _"Hey Hey Hey"_ If it were me, I would just say _"I ship these two"_ Ironic since Pokemon's game design allows for incest but no same gender stuff due to its terrible breeding mechanic (speaking as a game designer and programmer) lol.
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
I think there’s a pretty big difference between saying someone is coded after a specific character for a small gimmick, and saying someone’s coded upon a certain demographic because they consistently demonstrate a reflection of the lived experiences of many people within that demographic. Saying Team Ebony is lesbian coded isn’t me saying that I ship them, it’s commenting specifically on the fact that they’re written in a way that closely resembled the dynamic and experiences of many real lived lesbian couples. Also yeah I love how PMD bypassed the entire mainline breeding troubles by just saying “nobody can breed, get your eggs other ways” and that’s really funny to me.
@DrCoeloCephalo
@DrCoeloCephalo 5 месяцев назад
​​@@ODISethYou can make loose generalizations and stereotypes like that out of anyone if a character is well written and relatable enough. My first examples would have been Sunflora as a valley girl or Bidoof as a bumpkin. The point of my example of Corphish being Fat Albert is to illustrate my point how ridiculous and easy it is to do to draw something from nothing.
@lbc493
@lbc493 5 месяцев назад
First, you don't want Explorers DX, and now you don't like team charm. We need to talk...
@sunnypsyduck7491
@sunnypsyduck7491 5 дней назад
Team YOOM-TAH!!!
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 дней назад
That’s the whole guild
@User-xh5zu
@User-xh5zu 5 месяцев назад
4:53 What website is this I never saw it before
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
Not a website! That’s the SkyTemple PMD rom editor! It’s the tool people are using to make romhacks of PMD Sky, but also it’s a good way to see how to game is scripted and all the details of the game, like moves and stats and all that jazz. You can download the tool from skytemple.org
@User-xh5zu
@User-xh5zu 5 месяцев назад
@@ODISeth thx!
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
@@User-xh5zu you’re welcome!
@thisrandomdude2880
@thisrandomdude2880 6 месяцев назад
"Speaking of Team Charm" Me: YEEEEEEAAAAHHH "I don't like them at all" Me: Oh... okay :/
@blacksheep7741
@blacksheep7741 5 месяцев назад
Can Togepi and murkrow evolve in this
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
They can! But not until after you beat the main story, and as far as I’m aware the NPCs in Team Glee and Team Ebony don’t evolve to take advantage of that ability even after the story’s completion
@rapidriver
@rapidriver 5 месяцев назад
Theyre all S tier in my heart :(
@MidoriNatsume
@MidoriNatsume 5 месяцев назад
It's interesting that your Viewer Antagonisms about Team Charm technically failed, because no one is leaving angry comments about it, but also succeeded because a lot of people are leaving comments about agreeing with you. Anyway, we all know why some people like it, and I have no rights to judge them since I'm a mecha fan, and as you can see from my channel, I'm guilty too. 😅
@Slimeonian
@Slimeonian 5 месяцев назад
Gets get Special Episode 5 some love. Team Future, Grovyle, Celebi and Dusknoir. Even after this game the 3 of them show up in Super Mystery Dungeon too, with Celebi still being Shiny lel. Not sure how Canon it is but it’s a cool reference nonetheless. Easy S tier
@TheDragonLegacy
@TheDragonLegacy 5 месяцев назад
Where tf is my new pmd release
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
None yet, but there are brand new romhacks
@sweetwolfsteve5583
@sweetwolfsteve5583 5 месяцев назад
I dont like team charm either i dont get why your getting flamed for it its your opinion
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
Honestly I’m very surprised how many people wound up agreeing with me on that like, before I posted this I FULLY thought team Charm was the most beloved team in the game but, yeah a lotta folks seem to agree with my sentiment
@sirgabid
@sirgabid Месяц назад
Sorry but Team Charm served us mother all along and there is no better team
@Xestern
@Xestern 5 месяцев назад
my god what terrible opinions.. thanks for the reminder on all exploration teams tho
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
You’re more than welcome to share your own opinions! I made the tier list publicly available tiermaker.com/create/pokmon-mystery-dungeon-2-eos-t-d-npc-teams-16516133
@monkeywithmakeup760
@monkeywithmakeup760 6 месяцев назад
How the heck did you write in that shuppet and bird are lesbians bruh 😂😂
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 6 месяцев назад
Well I paid attention to their written dialogue and noticed a lot of similarities between their goals and interactions with each other and many lesbian couples irl, and especially in Japan during the 2010s. I can’t just ignore that cause they’re a ghost and a bird.
@heldon7951
@heldon7951 5 месяцев назад
YOOO
@sereneaurora965
@sereneaurora965 5 месяцев назад
Don't dislike Team Charm just because you meeean they're too feminine, girly in other words. You like Team ACT better because they're definitely the masculine team 😂😅
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
Honestly my only complaint with Team ACT is their masculinity. Femininity is excellent and I love when a well written character embraces it, like Murkrow and Wigglytuff for instance! But gender expression should add to personality, not be a substitute for it.
@sereneaurora965
@sereneaurora965 5 месяцев назад
@@ODISeth Yeah Wigglytuff is definitely a Pokemon who demonstrates that guys can be feminine. But I personally see that Murkrow isn't very gender expressive with her looks, not that that's a bad thing of course, and I don’t know if liking shiny objects is necessarily a feminine trait
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
@@sereneaurora965 yesssss love Tuff’s complete embrace of his feminine appearance and mannerisms. As for Murkrow, while her appearance isn’t traditionally feminine, nor is the core trait of liking shiny things, a lot of her other aspects emphasize traditional femininity. I didn’t focus on them too much in this video because I thought the species-coding (real life corvids love shinies) and romantic relationship between her and Shuppet were more important for the video, but a lot of her mannerisms and the way she speaks gives strong feminine vibes. And I think that really emphasizes why I don’t like Team Charm that much. So many of these Pokemon have a lot of personality aspects beyond what’s discussed in this video, but Team Charm doesn’t. They’re flashy, and it’s cool that they strike fun feminine poses and have an admittedly great theme song, but that’s just about all they have. Again, big part of why I love the romhack Explorers of the Spirit, which maintains their established super feminine traits but also adds a LOT more for them to do, characterizing them in very surprising and engaging ways! In that romhack, I love them! In the base game… they’re flashy and spectacular on the surface, but lack the depth a lot of the other teams have
@sereneaurora965
@sereneaurora965 5 месяцев назад
@@ODISeth Just don't listen to me about Murkrow because I don't really pay much attention to the Pokemon anyways. 😂 I should get the Romhack because I don't really know the whole story of Explorers of the Spirit
@ODISeth
@ODISeth 5 месяцев назад
@@sereneaurora965 omg Spirit is so fun, highly recommend either playing it yourself or watching my playthrough. PHENOMENAL story
@mewzkil
@mewzkil 6 месяцев назад
Team Tasty 😭💝 Wurmple is my favorite Pokemon and I love that team, they rightfully belong in S 🩷🐛
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