I have used them inside light fittings and they are great but woud like them to launch a 4 way version for loop in and out instead of using the 3 way and having to bend the cables to suit the mounting brackets. Keep up the great work 👍
depends how lazy i al but i usually do it in 1 of 3 ways if i can buy the harness adapter i get that and move on with my life obviously but assuming its a stereo with the dozen wires coming out the back i just purchase a universal harness adapter for my vehicle cut off the stero side connector then ill join to that so im cutting up the adapter and not touching the factory loom then ill join the wires in one of theese ways from laziest to most preffered 1 crimp bullet connectors 2 self soldering marine splices (they look like heatshrink with a little solder ring when you shrink them they solder the wires together and some adhesive makes them water tight 3 hand solder them with heatshrink wagos arnt a terrible or harmfull way to do it its just a little cludge
Guys, you set my OCD into overdrive when you clipped those three connectors onto the carrier with one round the opposite way to the others... Seriously traumatised now. ;)
Imagine if the wago connectors could be clicked together themselves, without a tray. It’s funny because the counterfeit wago connectors come up with novel ideas like this.
I worked for an electrical company and they about had a stroke and all but threatened to fire me when i brought up wago connectors instead of wire nuts. They didn't wanna hear how much time we could save. Wagos for these "old school" electricans is a very very dirty word
I don't think you should have posted this video until they have UK stock of the enormous oversized Wago 221 camera left... where can I get one of those? I can see it would be very useful.
Hi Guys, where do I get the accessory plate from that is used to mount the carrier plate into the light box. Is there a part number? Common electrical trade counters don’t seem to stock the accessory! Thanks
Yes, a really lovely in line connection Really love all WAGO stuff! BUT... there's always a but.. Many lighting jobs require a loop in and a loop out for, say, 4 downlights operated by a single switch- very common. The problem with existing WAGO boxes is that all the cables come in at one end. The result is that it's difficult to pull the box out of the ceiling through the downlighter. Looping the feed in and out of one end, and the downlighter connection at the other end would be really elegant. What think you please??
The extra plate to clip that tray into the wagobox light seems quite unnecessary. The cord grips should suffice easily or they could have just made the barbs on the tray clip into the wago box light with two holes for the barbs to go into (and discontinue the old light box without the holes so its not confusing having the 2 versions)
No need to use the mounting carriers in the WAGOBOX Light, the connectors can be placed loose inside. The mounting carriers are more for when you make your own box or panel. Hope this helps.
i wonder if you could stack two carriers in this box too, for example if you have to connect 5 Wires (like Power + DALI, or 3 Phase Power). Size wise it looked like it should fit...
Brilliant, been waiting ages for this ... can they be used as MF in the lite box? as with the wagobox 221 you have the channel to stop the levers opening .. not sure if you know .. wagos now come in wiska boxes with its own clip mounted rail.. they're great
Would be interesting to ask Wago why 4mm² Class 2 conductors are not supported. It seems like a strange limitation and a particular PITA with typical UK cable types. Perhaps less of an issue with german cables (IIRC 4mm² NYY-J is solid)
Hmm, I don't know how it works with you metric wire types but 4mm² is the equivalent of 12awg. But in awg sizes stranded wire has a slightly larger physical size than solid wire. So maybe it's related to that?
@@Morberis IIRC yes stranded (class 2) is allowed to be slightly larger than solid (class 1), but fine stranded (class 5) conductors are allowed to be slightly larger still. So it's odd to support 4mm² solid and 4mm² fine stranded but not 4mm² stranded.
@@petermichaelgreen That is very odd. I didn't notice that they were rated for finely stranded. The Canadian version of their website lists them as compatible with solid, stranded, and finely stranded. But over here it would be very very odd for something to be rated for #12 solid but not #12 stranded or finely stranded. It basically has to fit any #12 wire. Though requiring ferrules is allowed.
actually I take that back these are 18-14 gauge ones, so 12 wouldnt be considered Bueno. Hwoever the ones I have and purchased form amazon are - "[PERFECT SPECIFICATIONS]: The lever nuts that are 412, 413, and 415 accommodate stranded wires from 0.14 to 4 mm², as well as solid and fine-stranded wires from 0.2 to 4 mm² (24-12 AWG). 221-2401 accommodate solid wires from 20-12 AWG. Ratings up to 32 A/450 V and 105°C maximum continuous operating temperature allow the 221 Series Splicing Connectors to be used at ambient temperatures up to 85 °C (T85), making them ideal for small and large loads. Furthermore, approvals like ENEC or UL allow them to be used in worldwide applications. That would be why I immediately thought "That wire works" because.. it does with the ones im used to using. "Wago Wire Connectors 90 pcs, 221 Series Electrical Connectors Assortment with Case" on amazon $40 Usd. Contains 25x WAGO 221-2401, 30x WAGO 221-412, 25x WAGO 221-413, 10x WAGO 221-415
Is that big wago actually functional or just a prop? Because the real ones hurt if you snap your finger when closing them. I can't imagine how that big one would feel lol...
just something i do may or may not help but i put the tab with the writing on to the supply end that way at a glance i can tell what end has power and what end wont should a cable come out or something needs changing
Greetings. Great video on the Wago connectors. What really caught my eye though was your wire strippers. Pleaz give out details on them. Will be subscribing to your channel. Keep up the good videos. Thanks.
i was curious if one can secure these connectors down to wood with maybe a backing plate, I need to use a 5 way to connect grounds in an electric guitar cavity and an inline to connect the positives. I would like to secure these down in the body cavity so as to not move around. Some of the wiring has to be channeled down the middle. I saw you used some gray backing plates would those work and where do you get them? Thanks
Isn't the current rating of butt connectors indicated by the colour of the connector? The various ones I've used have always had the rating on the packaging 🤔
So this is an efixx video but it sounds like a wago commercial they even have it set up that you have to keep it to the topic when you try to make a comment this is not a video about the connector it's a commercial.
Can I use this or the same model with side by side connectors for repairing a cable I managed to break while drilling through a wall? Is this ok as it as or I need to put it in a box, the cable is under the plasterboard and will be covered.
I see that the inline 221 is only rated to #14 wire whereas the side by side 221 is rated to #12 probably the most used size in the U.S. for residential wiring. Is there another model that is inline and rated for #12?
I am ignorant when it comes to the electrical side of things however... Would you potentially know which product would be idea from the wage line to integrate it into an Arduino project? This can't use the breadboard and has to be a bit more sophisticated. I am using the din rails and some 3d printed parts. The only issue I have is how do I create a common ground or power for 3-5 other devices. I have seen some terminal blocks on your channel but it seems that they could be an overkill for the tiny connectors that the Arduino uses for most of its sensors. Any ideas gentlemen would be appreciated.
It’s a bit pointless to Dalvin into this as it is meant for the UK this video but sometimes I have found out things can be transferred to the Canadian version under some conditions so this may be one of them
Could anyone tell me the wago product number for the WAGO MOUNTING CARRIER for the light junction box shown on this video. Is it 221-2533 or 221-2523? Does that include the click in/interface piece which clicks into the wago junction box light 207-3303? Thanks
Can you give more detail about the backplates and accessories. I was offered some backplates but they seemed too long for the light box. Is it just the light boxes that they are designed for or can you use then in other boxes? Do you have to use the backplates in all installations for conformity to regs?
The mounting carriers are designed to be used in any manufacturers enclosure. They are available with or without strain relief which can be snapped off if not required.
The Ideal spliceline are maintenance free if used in conjunction with ideals MF marked junction box. They will be max Amp rated according to the input voltage. Here in the the it's 16 Amp max.
I find it very amusing that the electrical industry in the uk has only just discovered the use of connectors like the WAGO system. They've been using em for ages in other countries but as usual we're at the back of the queue, in the british electrical industry. We're so backward at coming forward it's laughable because we like to think the 'british way' is the only way ! Great to see the industry is open to new ideas and technology now but fgs it's took em long enough !!!
Really? Dont know where you've been hiding. Ive been using connectors like helicons & wagos for years, as have most electricians I know, so not a recent discovery at all.
You’re acting like this video is a discovery no, it’s simply announcing a new type that is quite important to know also the reason why we don’t use the newest technology immediately makes sense because if we leave it a few years for other places to test we can implement something after we found out if it’s going to burn down houses we can also develop the standards for awhile before actually become relevant
@@efixx The problem with topjobs is that they require fairly deep boxes, where the 221 is flat and can be fitted in a shallow box. They can of course be commoned with the loss of half the connection capacity by fitting a commoning bar to one side.
And for their next trick? 2 into 1, stacked (staggered like a pyramid) and maybe 3 into 1 inline connectors. You can see that coming. A 2 into 1 allowing you to splice into a ring final with a spur. Maybe 3 into 1 to take switched power to three light pendants in one?
It’s worth knowing that it’s not the smallest one available, but it’s certainly a very good way of getting a secure connection. Most smaller ones rely on it being done amazingly.
@@daviddraper9256 That would be great if so. A "through" MF solution is something missing from Wago's portfolio. Will it be rated for rings or is it expected to be for lighting circuits only?
Jesus, somebody tell motormouth to back off the lines of coke. Are the Wago boxes rated as a stand alone junction box? Or do they have to be in a rated box as well? If they are rated is there a way to mount them so that the cover is flush with the wall surface (all junction boxes with splices have to be accessible and cannot be buried behind sheetrock or whatever wall covering is used) to satisfy code requirements here in the US?
No we stopped most of our manufacturing in the Early seventies and got the Chinese and Germany to make our products. Even our cutlery isn’t made in sheathfield with sheathfield still anymore. Even our fruit and veg comes from Europe
Yeah, we make idiots famous and we make rich people richer. We are world beating in that, to quote someone who fits both of those categories. But in all seriousness, it’s a big part of why Brexit was such a rubbish idea and why the average layman will be kept in his place much easier these days. ANYHOO…
The big flaw or inconvenience that I see with these connectors (which I have been using daily for years), is that they only come for 5 simultaneous connections at the same time, which is insufficient when making a record and connecting the cables in star... It would be great if the manufacturer made them with up to 10 connections.
there is a Version for up to 8 Wires and 2,5mm², but only for Solid Wires (number being 2273-208 ).. i think its even slightly smaller than the 5-way 221.
