Make your own tier list here: tiermaker.com/create/halo-2-maps-1085227 Starting with h3 I made adjustments to when we do the polls! But h2c and h2a were both part of the original stream :)
Its unfortunate yall missed out on Halo 2 online its prime. There was nothing like it before. The matchmaking, clans, structured platform, ranking system. None of that existed before for console players.
Just finished the video. My takeaways: -You guys stomped on my childhood with the coag rating… lmaooo -Redeemed yourselves with the zanzibar rating -Everything else is pretty spot on -Apparently there are some halo 2 maps i’ve never played lool
I’d have to disagree. 2 probably has my least favorite maps in the series. Maybe besides CE. I think 3 has the best map selection of not just Halo but any FPS I’ve played.
As a casual Halo player, I personally think Halo 2 has the best maps in the whole series next to Halo 3. Since I didn’t own Xbox Live, I loved simply exploring 2’s multiplayer maps as a kid back then. Their aesthetic (environmental story telling especially) is really great and the locations all feel unique from one another which makes them enjoyable to play in. Turf is an absolute classic for me. That map is the peak of Halo maps for me. I loved the interactive environment, like how you could melee a pole to create a bridge. Plus, many Halo 2 maps came back in future Halo games as remakes which speaks for itself. The few Halo 2 maps I don’t like include Gemini (too vertical because of the top balcony) and Relic (way too open). Halo: Reach has the worst map design in my opinion. All of its 4v4 maps were taken from campaign which made them pretty boring for me since none of them felt different or unique. Also, I hate how vertical the 4v4 maps are, like Oni Sword Base for instance. It all reminds me too much of Halo: CE’s maps which I think are all outdated by now except for Beaver Creek since they’re way too open which creates many spawn killing issues. For instance, Hang ‘Em High is just the most unbalanced map I’ve ever played on if you spawn on the lower end.
@@SeanPennII I mean, it's fun, it looks pretty good for 2014, and has all the guns of Halo 2, they even added a few more, and they remade the best maps of Halo 2, which all of them looks gorgeous. All it needs are more maps. The hitmarkers are indeed strange, but who cares, it actually makes long range encounters a bit more viable. My only gripe is the Granade Radar.
Ik I'm late but I kinda think the whole idea of low visibility = bad is dumb. The way I hear that is "the guy is behind the wall I can't see him that's shit" That just sounds dumb. Like no shit. But he also can't see you. It's a mechanic of the map and I feel it works fine as it's one off gimmick. it also looks really cool. I don't think the map is particularly good but the fog is one of the reasons I'd say it's at all good. Good vid tho.
In what world does anyone give ELONGATION an A tier??? Hot dog water of a map it almost never got played in ranked. And the disrespect of coag is bananas same goes for ascention. But people who liked elongation were the same people that had elites as their avatar.
I was keeping up with the CE maps, but there are like a half dozen H2 maps that I've never played. Like Uplift, i played that first in the H5 forge remake
Seen your community posts for a while, but when I saw this was a video I had to check it out, played a TON of Halo 2 back in the day, was super glad to see that stuff like Troy and Tower of Power customs got mentioned too! But yeah, I love Halo 2's super vertical, platforming heavy map design. I'd probably put Ascension and Coag a bit higher (and Turf goes straight to S tier, SO many spots to jump up and flank people from above/behind), Elongation, Waterworks, Gemini (love the visuals but it's never flowed right to me) a bit lower (Midship a lot lower :p but that's a "me" thing) but I generally agree with the rankings. I will say though is that when you guys do the Halo Reach maps, you SHOULD rate them based on AR/Pistol starts rather then DMR starts. While it makes sense to judge based on BR starts for 2 and 3 since SMG/AR starts leave you sort of helpless (not that BR starts are super balanced, defeats the point of half the pickups), but in Reach, you can actually effectively engage with people with the pistol and even the AR isn't quite as useless past 5 feet as it used to be in Reach. It strikes a balance of giving you tools to compete with players that have pickups, without giving you guns that defeat the point of pickups from the getgo. The DMR in particular (especially post TU) in particular also really ruins map flow more then the BR did due to being able to crossmap more easily, so while Reach has more usable pickups then 2 and 3 did with BR/DMR starts, the impact of everybody having a DMR is also arguably more harmful... so yeah, I def think reach should be judged based on AR starts! I assume 5 will be too (Something I love about H5's multiplayer is how the map design also reminds me of 2's a lot, both have a lot of really dense, platforming heavy 4v4 maps, something thrust, hover, etc helped with too). This is a bit tangential, but on the note of AR starts, I really wish Halo would stop treating autos as bad weapons for bad players and actually make them useful and reward skill. It's such a waste to have a third of the weapon sandbox be useless for competent players and/or not be in competitive. Imagine a fighting game where like half the roster was intentionally designed for bad players and weren't used by almost anybody online, let alone in the competitive scene? it'd be considered a bad game. Halo 5's handling of autos may not be perfect, but the H5Beta was on the right track by giving the AR a headshot multipier even when shields up, which at least made it so that it was viable to not just spray and pray with it, and to instead use bursts and try to aim with it and the multiplier would make up for the DPS loss of not just holding the trigger down. Also you know what's crazy? Headlong (which both you guys and I agree is way up there) is Max Hoberman (the H2 MP lead)'s least favorite map in the game. Crazy right? I will say also Uplift is pretty decent in Halo 5 on the forge version. I might bump it up a bit just how pretty it is in H2 too. Lastly, what's this about Camo being worse in MCC? I haven't noticed that
@ 1:21:10 it actually was a comp map. you can go watch the old mlg videos of pros playing on it :p Damn I wish I knew about this map voting series a long time ago, i would have killed to get in on this Halo 2 version. I played H2 so much and competitively until my eyes bled O_O
i cannot stand midship or any of its remakes. its hard to tell where you spawn exactly, you get shot from pretty much everywhere as soon as you spawn. it all looks the same and depending on the version of the map, either team will blend in more with the color pallet of the map giving a slight advantage. garbage tier by far, one of the few maps in the series i just cannot stand and groan when it comes up
Halo has never been a game made for competitive. Just because MLG played halo 3 doesn’t make it a competitive shooter. Halo has always been a fun casual game to play with your friends and be competitive in a casual sense. Not the faze mlg 420 game battle fucboi version everyone thinks it should be. Trying to make halo 5 competitive is what made that game FUCKING GARBAGE.
