The Ultimate KelTec P17 With Red Dot 

Ok, and?

Not really.

i have the slide and i like it, no affect on its performance. I do like the Keltec engraving on the top side.

I expected that to work well. I just wish they offered a budget option for those who already have a red dot. Maybe, they'll offer the lighter red dot slide without the red dot for cheap one day.

@@deuceandguns When i spoke to the guy at Keltec, he said they sell it with the CTS red dot because it is the lightest red dot on the market. This is to keep the weight down as much as possible so the slide has no issues cycling. He said they decided not to sell the red dot slide without the red dot because people would put their "heavier" red dot on there which could pose an issue with the slide properly cycling and the 1st thing they are going to do is contact them to complain. Its $200 because of the red dot and the labor involved to machine the new slide to accomondate the red dot AND for the KelTec ingraving on the slide to help reduce more weight because of the red dot. By adding that red dot weight, they removed metal from the slide to compensate. When i weighed the oem slide it was like 4.18 ounces and the new red dot slide was 4.62 ounces. I paid the $200 and it works fine for me. I could have went the route you did by getting the adaptor and getting my own red dot but then i thought about the added weight and if it started acting up, then im out the $$ for the adaptor and the red dot. At least this red dot is made by them and they "cover" it and they "certified" it.

Yea i have it and it runs fine.

Ive had my P17 for a few months now, yes it has some issues but today i fired off 340 rounds and she ran like a champ. No issues at all, i was impressed. and i did like 5 mag dumps and she hit every round with ease.

Or get the slide and optic already sold be KelTec.

I'm sure it would work if a slightly lighter recoil spring we're available but if it goes too light then the action isn't strong enough to strip the next round out of the mag and chamber it. Narrow window of success with failure on either side.

@deuceandguns the only other thing I can think of would be a variable rate spring. I"ve made a few in the past, and it's hard but not difficult to make if you know your spring compression rates. There is a guide that lists them that I've"ve used in the past but I no longer have that reference manual. A good Master or Journeyman Machinist probably knows the book I am referring to. The biggest issue would be proper heat treat and tempering of the new spring.

i have the Keltec Red Dot Slide and it has NO affect on the guns performance. She still runs strong but i do run CCI Mini Mags at 1260 fps so thats enough kick to cycle the slide with the red dot on it.

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4.18 oz for the oem slide 4.69 oz for the red dot slide made by Keltec If you are NOT using high velocity ammo, that will cause an issue. If you use High Velocity QUALITY ammo, its not an issue.

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I'm assuming you've never tried a Kel-Tec P17. You really should give one a try. I have many very expensive firearms, but I find my P17 to be one of the most enjoyable to shoot. It's light weight, but the recoil is minimal, and the trigger is better than it has a right to be.

Hoopty strong.

ITS A VERY GOOD GUN. I HAVE 5000 ROUNDS THROUGH MINE ZERO PROBLEMS. YOU JUST CANT AFFORD ONE

because its $200 and it runs with the right ammo. I just shot off 340 rounds today at the range, 100% fire rate with 5 mag dumps and this gun ran like a CHAMP ...

Hmmm I don't know. Maybe because for $200 it has a better trigger than a S&W M&P compact, comes with three mags that hold six more rounds. It's light, reliable and affordable. Maybe start with an educated opinion before bashing it.

Because they cycle any ammo and I mean any flawlessly. Not sure what this guy is running his chops about .own two of them never a malfunction ever tested out over 50 difrent ammos and grains