Many reviews of the Redwing Christie soles or the Thorogood variant is that they wear down fast. To this point, and worth mentioning here is that the original christie sole was specifically created to ease foot pain from walking and working on concrete job-sites all day. Specifically, they were designed for carpenters and masons who at the time, were hand nailing, framing, or pouring and screening concrete on their feet non- stop for 8-10hrs straight. The boots were always intended to be resoled many times over, with the leather uppers continuing to last for years. Ultimately, Like many things, boot sole choices should depend on how and where you plan on using your boots. The lug soles that you moved to were created for greater grip for working and hunting on natural, slipping surfaces and logging. The original, American- made Irish Setter boots (since bought my Red wing and now sold as the lower boot made over seas) included an "upland bird hunting boot" that is a moc toe with the lugged soles (basically, what you have transitioned these into). Always remember that all of these types of boots were designed as "work boots" even though they have also become the latest fashion statement. thanks for the solid comparison here on yoru review.
I own the 1907 boots. I’ve had them for about three years now and they are the only pair of boots that almost every time I wear them someone comments on how “Badass” those boots are. Great pair of every days or evening out boots.
Great video! The reason for the crepe ( white soles) is us Carpenters know they stick to slippery surfaces like roofs and wet steel beams as the heavy lugged vibram sole won't. Plus they don't track in debris and dog poop is much easier to clean!
I have the 877s. They didn't need any break in at all. Comfortable from day one and I can ware them all day long. They are a bit warm in summer, and I agree ( true to size ). Great boots, I'd like to get the roughneck from Red Wing to use on non snowing days that are warmer and plowed. My Chippewa Arctic 50s are for major cold and snow. Something in the out sole rubber that grips ice in a way my 877s don't.
The 1907’s are in fact smaller in size and take much more time to break in. The leather is really tough, they keep their shape much longer, so don’t take them too small in width. The 1907 is the super moc toe, looks better on the foot (wider) but is in fact tighter in the same size as the other models from the moc toe family.
Yeah with the insert. Not without it. They fit so much better than other Mocs without the insert. And they're supposed to. As they are built bigger to support an insert
@@el34glo59the original moc toe last is better. More "fitted." It wasn't broke in the first place. So this was made for "farries" that cry about real Red Wings that need insoles.
I agree. Both boots look good, but that white Christie sole and the welt stitching on the 1907 makes the boot uniquely attractive. It’s the better looking of the two. That’s enough for me. I will be buying a pair. Thanks for the vid.
I use boot cream on my boots to condition and keep the original color, it will not darken the leather. On sizing I go a full size down on 875,877, Iron Rangers and Blacksmith’s size 7.5 because they are a very low profile boots. On 1907’s a go a 1.5 sizes down because is a bulky boot. My normal size on Air Jordan’s is 8.5.
Thanks for this, pal. I liked the aesthetic of the 1907 but watching your review has confirmed it. I'm flying to LA in a couple of weeks, and will be getting myself a pair.
Sold. My 875’s have been fantastic. 10-20k steps per day for 2 years on commercial construction projects and the stitching is still looking great. The only really worn out part is the toe from working on my knees . I’ll probably re sole and add the horrible looking toe guards but I wanted a new pair anyway so I’m also picking up a pair of 1907’s. Why not? 🤷🏻♂️
I couldn’t help but notice your a glazier Local 636 here LA. I need an honest opinion from someone who’s out on the field, and probably doing the same exact thing as I am lol I’m curious how the 1907 hold up and how comfortable they are. I’ve always stuck with my Thorogoods, but been eying those 1907’s as those are the only Red Wings I like. Everyone at the RW stores tells me they are not a work boot more of a casual boot.
Thanks for your videos. I've been researching which moc toe boot to buy for months now. Just ordered a pair of 1907s. They should be here today once I get home from work. Can't wait!
@@utahnick They did take a full month to get comfortable enough to wear daily at work. After a week or so of that? They got really comfortable though. The break was hell lol. But it was totally worth it. By far my favorite pair of boots I've ever owned at this point.
@@christopherdavisson617 good to hear. They're my favorite too. I like them so much I kept them as my good boots and bought a pair of thorogoods for work. Maybe the redwings will retire to work boots after they get beat up some more. ✌
The wedge soles wear out because they're soft and squishy, which is one of the things I like about them. Vibrams are ok I guess, if you don't mind picking pea sized gravel out of them 50 times a day.
I assumed the wedge would be better for me as I have plantar fasciitis but as soon as I read your comment I’m imagining the gravel issue would drive me up the wall 😄 I got gifted a pair of 875s and was planning to take them back to swap for roughnecks or 1907s but now I’m not sure 🤔
I’ve got both now. Prefer the 875’s for the style, colour when new and I also got the extra wide EE width 👍🏾 1907’s also a great boot 🥾 Excellent video ❤
Well what’s your job? If you have a casual office job or something along those lines then they’re fine, if you are working a construction or trade job then I wouldn’t recommend them, I’m not saying they aren’t durable. There’s just better options for work.
@@charlesbronson240 Honestly, I love them for outside work man. I've found certain heritage hold up better than work boots. Work boots unfortunately are made like crap. Ironic isn't it. Other brands work boots seem to fall apart. The 1907 is a better work boot then the Redwing 10875 imo too, which so considered a work boot. So idk Once I wear these soles out I'm gonna go with a lug type vibrim maybe
I have gone for the 875 nevertheless. Just more classic last and don’t need the Norwegian stitching anyway. As for the wearing out of the soles, I had my cobbler glue a very very thin layer of white micro grooved vibram. Admit I have no traction challenge usage but the soles never wore out and most importantly never wore unevenly which would have caused major back issues.
1907 is one of the best boots I've owned and I own alot of Redwing heritage boots. They literally fit me PERFECT without the insert. I wear 12s in shoes. I wear 11s in any Redwing Moc Toe. And 10.5 in anything with the 8 last. Such as blacksmiths. When I got these in 11, I took out the leather insert and it was like someone literally made these for my feet custom. And as thick and heavy as they are, they broke in So fast. Couldn't believe it. I use the 1907 for work outside because they're built so dam well. The leather is thick. Just a tough boot. I know they are great looking. I almost didn't want to use them, but they're great work boots A little confused about you saying they wear out fast. Soles that is. I've used the same soles at work and didnt have that issue
Your review made me feel way more certain about my decision to go with the 1907s when I first got them.… thank you. I originally went to my local RW store looking for the 875 but after finding that they didn’t have any in stock, decided on the 1907. I do still want to get the 875s at some point as I really love the Oro Legacy leather, but I don’t regret getting the 1907s at all. They are $309.99 here in America which makes them only $10 more than the 875 ($299.99USD). For that $10, you get the improved last, the Norwegian welt, the insoles that RW sells for $40 alone, and a secondary set of leather laces valued at $15. You can’t really go wrong with these. They were a great first pair of heritage boots for me with the insoles and roomier last. I do recommend for anyone breaking these in… remove the provided insoles for the first 2 months or so. As much as it sucks comfort wise, it’s a good idea to get the shoe sole (permanent leather and cork) to mold to the shape of your foot. You can always add the insoles back later on if you want the comfort, but they definitely do impede the shoe molding to your specific foot shape.
its not true Norwegian welt meaning that the outer/upper is not sewn to the inner layer or to the insole. The thread is just for the looks but yes it does drastically improves the looks and people who need waterproof shoes dont buy any of these anyway. So it does look awsome./
Picked up the 1907's about a month ago. The break in process is no joke. I've never had pain like this before in a boot . Most of it is the heel slipping and rubbing.I will not give up on these beautiful boots. A lesser man would cave... or at least that's what I tell myself.
Love the 1907s. The original soles wear down a little fast I wear mine everyday for work and after work. When u go for a resole I go with a thicker little tougher sole. They sell a vibram Christie sole and the soles on the redwing 411 are more work wise bottoms. Take care of them and u will have em forever. And I like the leather insert as well. The leather laces are nice but I put the other laces in just feel like there better for work.
I'm a fan of the style of the 1907's. I just wish the white sole lasted longer and had a bit more grip. The sole on my shoes is always the first thing to go since i have some weird walking patterns. I'll likely go for those and just plan on resoling but maybe in the future i'll get the roughneck version as well.
The 1907 is harder to break in. Thicker leather and they seem a tad smaller in length in the same size and they have an other last that looks better, wider, but in real life they are feeling a bit narrower in the same size as my 8131 Moc toes. I use special insoles by the way. The problem with new Moc Toes is also that the white sole is not very flexible and your heel wants to pop up all the time if you don’t tie the laces very tight. I always buy my Red Wings second hand as there are people who quit wearing them within a month or so. They buy them too large as they don’t like the break in period. My advice is, you have them for many years so be aware of the molding to your feet in the long run.
Why would you want to buy a boot whose sole wears out so quickly? Thorogood is marketing a Max Wear sole that has good reviews for durability. Even though I really like the design of the Redwings I’m leaning toward the Thorogood boots.
Ive been buying thorogood moc toes for about 10yrs now. I recently bought my first red wing moc (8146) and have found that red wing sizing is difficult for me. I measure at 12E so i tried a 12d on in the 8146 and the 1907. Both of them had my pinkie toes smashed in to and slightly on top of the toes next to them and my big toes were touching the end of the boots. They didnt have an EE width in stock so i went up to a 13D. I wasnt able to try the 1907 in the 13, but i think im going to have to buy a pair of the leather insoles for mine. The length is perfect as my big toe sits just behind the stitching of the moc toe on the end but now the boots feel a tad too wide. I really feel that RW needs to make a 12 1/2 for us big feet people. I love my 8146 but im not sure if their lasts are gonna work for my feet. I will give the 1907 a try before I make my final decision
Are your 875s and the 1907s are same size then? I found that with the insole that the 1907s have made them a tighter a fit, I wished I'd sized up a half. Instead I've just removed in the insole.
Enjoy your videos very much. Thinking of taking the plunge and buying the 1907's. One question please for the 875 what colour are they ? I have also subscribed to your channel.
Hey, Great Video! Just a quick one: what’s your size in the 875 and the 1907. I bought both in us 9 and I think the 1907 are a little too big. They are quite roomy in the front and in the heel area.. best regards from Germany
Just picked up a pair of 1907's. The guy at the store said they are dress shoes and not to be used for work. Is this true? Also noticed they run a little big, should I go a half size smaller?
I don't have thorogood's heritage moc, but I do have their heritage roofer boots in natural chromexcel. I would say they're on par in quality with redwings factory 2nds. Highly reccomend if you can find them on a good sale.
I think some of the thorogoods are ugly honestly. Look like that cheap baseball glove leather. Also, the tops are top tight. Jmo. I wear Redwing heritage for work. I respect people who like thorogoods tho
I like the 1907 a lot but I feel like it looks like a more straight up work boot. The 875 looks more like a work boot inspired classic boot. If we are talking comfort though, the 1907 does win all the way.
@@MarcP5267 Yup, I used to own a pair. They are essentially the same boot but with different leather and color eyelets. They are tough as nails. The heritage version is tough too, bomb proof to quote Devon but the leather is more fashion oriented, meant to patina fast.
How long or how many wears would you say they take to break in? How long does that standard sole last? Can you put your own cushioned EVA footbeds into the 1907 then but not the 875?
@@richardruney7345 Actually I ended up getting a pair of 1907s, and my experience of the length of both boots is "fairly" similar. What I mean by that is, the 875s fit well for me lengthwise, but the 1907s were maybe 1 or 2 millimeters shorter for me - especially on my right boot - which looked as if it was visibly shorter than the left one - might be just my luck - which is why I would still try to get another pair in the same size. So I can't really give a definitive answer, but I would say if you have at least 1 CM in front of your toes in 875s (last 23), then 1907s (last 45) should fit just fine with the same size. But obviously, the best option would be to try them on before purchase. I personally can't, cause I live oversees.
Not sure if you have dune a review of the Red Wing Iron Ranger. This is anouther popular boot here in America. Very close to what my Grandfathers wore many many moons ago. Solid review. Well dune.
Those 875s are GORGEOUS! I love the way those vibram lugs look. I’ll definitely lean that direction when mine are due for a re-sole. And I LOVE the color! What have you been using to condition?!
The 1907s look big on you. I can tell my the amount of leather that cresses. That explains, since you stated you like to buy your boots bigger for more room. I prefer to buy them true to size, almost tight with a little discomfort, not short at all. They will loosen up over time.
For me it's the 875 have had them for over a decade.. I think you like the 1907 more because they are the newer not as wear down pair and have the original wedge sole. I do like the 1907's, but the wider silhouette is a major turn off for me.
Every redwing 875 video always look so orange/Red but I can never find them with that coloration. Mine are both either very yellow/brown or dark brown with no red/orange tint
Great in-depth comparison. I have just picked up a pair of the 2955 Blacksmiths partly based on your reviews of them. Did you ever work out the best product to care for them?Where's that flannel from please? Sorry for all the questions!
Thanks, I havent needed to treat the blacksmiths, they are holding up fine. I think I may try and wax using a product similar to that used for wax jackets (rub on and then melt in with a hairdryer). The shirt is actually from Joules, a UK high street brand, rather than a heritage work wear brand, a present from my wife.. nice comfy shirt with a decent fit.
@@DevonReviewer thanks for the reply. I will have a look at Joules, we have a store in Cambridge. I've never been in there. I like the look of the 1907 too. Similar fit to the Blacksmith?
Wao if one didn't know the 875 doesn't look anything like when It was made, The color is way darker because of treatment, the sole is different like you mention, they don't come with the American flag on the laces overall a very different look from the original but definitely, you showed how well its made thanks for the video
I work light duty in a machine shop, walking around on concrete and metal/ plastic grates, where safety toes are mandatory. I like mocc toe Red Wings for being not only stylish, but American and even union made. I also like a boot that’s resole-able, and will last me a good while otherwise. 6-8” seems ideal as I really appreciate ankle support and protection. What I need bedsides a safety toe is metatarsal protection, since I often carry heavy parts around. I got very wide EE or EEE feet, unsure what that is in EU standards, but they are paddles. Do you have any recommendations? I live in the US. I am willing to break them in if it gets me a union made safety boot with metatarsal protection. Thanks, just found your channel, you seem like a dude who I could have a beer with.
I would really like to see you do a review of the Iron Rangers and then do a comparison between the Big 3 (Moc Toes, Blacksmith and Iron Rangers). I need to know which one is the best to buy for constant wear and walking each day (no formal office job here). Cheers.
I had a pair of Red Wing 8890's and the 1907's. I got rid of them. I prefer the fit of my 877's. I didn't like the way the 1907's fit me and I find the fit of my 877's much better than the 6" moc toes on the 23 last for some reason.
@MesYang88 well my 1907s seem to stretch a lot. So they were loose. The 877 moc toe area also seems a bit larger. Plus the 877s Don't have a heal counter like the 6" boots. Not sure what you'd call it.
@MesYang88 maybe it was just the pair I got. The copper rough and tough leather just seemed softer than the Oro legecy. I had zero Break in with the 1907s. The 877s took a few days to start to get comfortable.
I have the 875’s and they’re an excellent winter boot. I’ll probably give the 1907’s a try next winter though as they seem a bit more comfortable based on your review. Where do you recommend getting them resoled?
As this video is 5 years old already you may have already come to realize this, but what you said about the 875’s being true to size is false. You talk about the top of the 875 pinching the top of your toes and that’s because it’s not bending where it should be as it’s too big for you. You can also tell just by looking at them where they have that “clown shoe” look where the toe bends up. That another classic sign that they’re too big. In talking with Red Wing employees, 875’s tend to run a full size larger than your Brannock, the 1907’s in the copper rough and tough run 1/2 to 1 size larger (same as Blacksmiths) and the Iron Rangers run a size and a half larger. I’m a US 12 have a size 11 875, and an 11.5 1907. They were both rough break ins, but what the Red Wing employees have told me has been spot on in sizing.
Something I really want to explore a bit more... the RW Blacksmiths are great but a bit plain except the spitfire leather which is interesting... I really want to try out the Hawthorne Iron Rangers, some cherry Beckmans, and some Wolverine 1000mile....then I will have an opinion on round toe boots!