The American Derringer M4 Alaskan Survival my just be the ultimate survival pistol. A survival rifle, survival shotgun and survival pistol all in one small package. .45-70
@@T1HSTAE if you had to spend your days fighting off young female groupies like BDH1911 does, you'd understand. They're relentless and can be vicious when they're told no.
@@ericvantassell6809 With that sweet long beard he has now the ladies are going to go even more wild. He is going to need private security to beat them away.
So firing three different calibers makes it the "ultimate" survival gun??? BAHAHAHAAAA.... The rifle round from that short barrell isn't going to have the velocity or the accuracy to be effective on large game...the .410 shotgun is also basically useless on anything other than snakes...the .45 Long Colt would make a decent close range defense round..but you're still stuck using a two shot single action that's heavier than pistols that are MUCH more effective.. oh, & the calibers this novelty uses are all too heavy to lug around much ammo...so NOPE, it's definitely not any kind of "survival' pistol..
In theory, the first round ought to take care of things in a survival situation. In theory, you should never need to fire that second round. But otherwise, yeah, 45-70 is a MF even in a large heavy pistol.
Yeah but it's shite!!!! Pointless fukin thing, who's going to shell out for that, when ya could get a nice little. 380 HK compact or summet similar for half the price, STUPID!!!
@@qigongkylar944 well it's a great trade trade and you'll never be out of work it's a dying art, but if you can find the right School or tutor in the field, it's amazing what you can do. Thanks for the question, Good Luck, Merry Christmas Scott
When you just need to carry around a little purse gun and you want to kill the mugger, the mugger's friend, his car engine, and the bartender down the street in one shot.
You called it. Dont forget yhe old lady on the shitter who ejected when she heard the noise.(alarm,alarm " ive prolapsed and i cant get up! Please hurry"
@@davidreynolds4684 and the wild life,scare the bejeebers out of everything..I don't know, societies better off without them but unfortunately it is what it is.
@@johnjones.3427 i think id be more anxious shooting that donkey hoof than i was shooting my barrett 50 the second time. Why the second time? M hlad yu asked. Because i knew what was about to happen. I had just been bitch slapoed by god when i triggered it the first time. Now ive had time to stop and think about it and the blood clot that is surely forming in my shoulder. Ahh. Good times
I really enjoyed the video. Haven't been up in Alaska since my Army years which was 40 years ago. Been salmon fishing in chitna ak , around earthquake bay area, glacier bay, as well as mountain climbing, and hunting ( actually lost a friend & my brothers dog while hunting in the winter but found him 3-1/2 hours later when it started to get really dark in the woods. Boy was he ever greatful). Me and my brother used alot of ammo trying to indicate a lost person and allow him to track back but is difficult to do in heavy woodlands and mountainous area. Someone living on the side of the mountain blasted his stereo to help him find his way to a main road and thats how we found him & 🐕 "Cona" . Anyways the talk of Alaska brought back memories and thank you for taking the time out to make the video of this very nice craftsmanship of a gun that I'll look into buying if I can find it in Springfield, MA. Take care.
Was apprehensive and was already waiting for the whining knowing the ballistics on .45-70. Ya thats truly a LAST RESORT piece of hardware when you talk that much power. Great video thanks for your gifts!!
I found one of these at a local pawn shop a few months ago. I called American derringer because mines a bit different. Mine has both barrels are 45-70. American derringer told me they only made a few in this configuration, which makes it quite rare. It looks the same as yours with the same grip.
Si esa es un arma de supervivencia seguramente la uses eficazmente cuando ya estés muerto al intentar que funcione. Cómo artesanía linda pieza. Más vale que use una escopeta recortada que ese traste. Por lo menos se entretienen. Hablen von los armeros de Paquistan que se las fabrican con herramientas manuales y 20 vece más baratas.
If you’re looking for something like this, I think that Bond Arms is a better derringer for the money. They are tanks that are well built and the barrels on the Bond Arms can be changed out to a variety of other barrels/calibers. I have one and love it. I specifically bought mine as a pocket carry for when I’m walking my dogs in the woods near my house.
I have the American Derringer 2 1/2” 45/410 that my wife bought me for a birthday 20+ years ago. Not only does it have sentimental value but it is a superbly built handgun that is actually not bad to shoot. I keep 410 self defense round in it with a sticky pocket holster. Nobody walks through a 410 but I have to say, shooting a 45/70 would have to be a fire emergency 😂
Dick Cheney shot a guy with a shotgun shell larger than a .410 *and* from a full length barrel, the man was fine. .410 is a joke caliber for self defense. Load it with .45 Colt DPX.
@@rifleshooterchannel208 ok. This really means nothing for the damage a .410 can inflict. Would you be willing to let someone test its' effectiveness on you?
@@rifleshooterchannel208 well at that point you should carry a .22 it haas higher incapacitation rate than a 9mm or a 45 maybe not kill but it’s more likely to keep your attacker down and not able to get up
@@ericg3810 Would you be willing to have a marble be fired at you from a slingshot? You see how poor of an argument you’re making here, right? Not wanting to be shot with something doesn’t make that something an effective fight stopper.
I feel like a beaver-tail on that grip would help enormously. And definitely a full-size grip if you ever expect people to use 45-70. This concept could be modernized so easily.
Yes but the first guy casually gripped the gun he didn't take a brazing stance and didn't have a really strong a grip on it he didn't take a moment to take a bracing stance he just fired it within a second or two of grasping the gun no wonder it bit him like that he has no business firing a gun that powerful SMH
This has to be the most entertaining video I’ve seen from you guys, I don’t know if I’ve watched any video when there is a Derringer involved where everything goes off as planned but thanks again for posting these excellent informative and entertaining videos and best wishes for the Big Daddy and Jason families and viewers
Nice set up, very nice 👍. That would be my version of a man cave lol. Ya that don't seem like it would be very comfortable to shoot but the recoil did not look that bad surprisingly you handled it very well. Wishing you and your family a safe and happy holidays ;)
The 45 LC would be my choice load. There is ammunition with a hollow point that can almost take down anything at close range. I like that gun thanks for sharing this.
A good friend of mine bought one of those. He is an experienced pistolero. First shot, the gun whacked him in the middle of the forehead and and left a bloody wound. Well hell, he should have known to take it seriously.
I had a guy bring me one of these to work on one time, had the original pistol grip rather than that S&W grips you have. It had a terrible trigger pull, I'm guessing close to 20lbs because it was bending my tester arm so I stopped. I brought it down to just under 8 lbs, but didn't want to go any lower than that due to no trigger guard. I was scared testing with .45LC and 410's and thought it's not that bad. I'm glad I didn't do the 45-70 LOL.
My go to truck/beater gun is a bubba'd post-war No.4 Enfield sporter with a 20" barrel. I also have a .45-70 Siamese Mauser that I regularly hunt moose with as it can digest hot thumper loads with ease
I have the M1 in 38/357. It was my back up the entire time I was on duty as a LEO in California. (Paladin style) Its a one handed gun in 38 but hold on with two in 357. For those that haven't fired one of these in a magnum or heavier, go into the kitchen, and with a flat hand slam it down onto the counter as hard as you can. That will almost duplicate shooting one of these.
My buddy had a single shot Thompson Center pistol in .30-06 with a 12" barrel, that thing was an absolute hand slapper with hotter rounds. Probably the hardest recoiling pistol I've ever shot, a .44 doesn't even come close. I shot it with one hand and earned the respect of all who witnessed it, everybody else was double fisting it🤣.
Wow such a compact powerful little pistol, would love to have such cool toys here in the UK, is big daddy really farther Christmas LOL all the best and have a great Christmas 🎄 to you guys glad to see your back
I have a Thompson Contender with a 45-70 barrel. All I could find was Leverevolution ammo. Decide I would shoot it and reload the brass. The recoils was extreme.......to put it mildly. I changed the grips to what I "thought" would be better to control the recoil. Recoil was worse. Finally stopped above my head and gave me hammer bite. Look at a Contender some time and see how far that thing recoiled in my hand. The grip I changed out had a beavertail on it. The other one did not. Just finger grooves on the front that did NOTHING to help.
Hello from Oklahoma! Good Video! I've had a Bond Arms for awhile, .45/.410. It's a shooter, but man is it heavy! With 3 1/2 inch barrels mine is a 1 1/2 pounds loaded. I don't know about y'all but that's to heavy for everyday carry. So, it stays in my boat. It does a number on snakes and such. They are built like a tank literally.
The idea behind the 45/70 is to stick in the bear’s ribs when he’s on top of you. No aiming required and it’ll get old bear off you. The other rounds have their own uses.
When I was 10 years old (about six decades ago) my dad got a single shot 12 gauge in a trade. He knew nothing about guns, but bought shells for it anyway. I begged him to let me shoot it. Instead of telling me to put the stock into my shoulder like he did (it hurt him) he told me to hold the stock under my arm and aim down the barrel. When I pulled the trigger the shotgun slid back with the hammer ripping a hunk out of the web of my hand and putting a gash below my eye! There was blood everywhere and dad rushed me to the doctor. At first the doctor thought I'd been shot with my dad screaming about a gun doing all that damage. Eventually he got the whole story and I was stitched up. Lesson: People with no experience with guns should NOT tell others how to use them!
I had a friend who came to school with a black ring around his eye, we all assumed and were scared to ask if his father had hit him or something to that effect. About a week later, literally a week later someone had the courage to ask and it turned out he'd shot a rifle way too big for him and same deal, it shot straight back under his arm and the scope stopped on his eye socket
Well, yeah, your father gave you bad advice there. From about the age of 10 the only gun I had available was a single shot 12 ga. All my buddies has .410's and 22's. I never had a problem with the recoil. I weighed abut 70 pounds, I guess. Lean into it and let it shove you back. In other words, go with the recoil and it's not a big deal. Ok, I've never tried a 45-70 derringer but I imagine it is about the same theory....get a good grip and direct the recoil up and over your head if necessary.
That’s pretty cool about the 45-70! I have a Public Defender that I plink around with using .45LC and .410 shells once every few years (not my favorite gun), but it definitely wouldn’t handle the 45-70 haha.
Call me crazy but I actually enjoy shooting mine. The main issue with mine is the oversized grips tend to break after 120-150 rounds of 45-70. Mine likes 300gr bullets. It will keyhole 405gr bullets after 10 yards.
I honestly don’t remember the recoiling being as bad as it was this time. We were shooting hornady Lever revolution 250 gr. They might be a little too hot for the pistol. That said, if you enjoy shooting yours, you are the man.
They obviously made the ultimate derringer…I can see enthusiast’s buying it just to say they got one ….I’d say it’s the knarlyist derringer ever made !
I think if you shoot the 45/70 barrel with light loaded rounds, it's probably a lot more mild. A 300 grain lead bullet with a trap-door level pressure load won't kick like that fairly hot hunting round made for the lever gun.
i have to agree. i imagine the load is more suited for rifle. can say the rifle packs a decent kick. first time i time i shot one it bout knock me on my ass.
I need one of These to go along with my 45-70 BFR. 45-70 is perfect for the reloaded due to load options. So much volume in the cartridge one can load any thing from. 600 grain hard cast to bird shot and everything in between. Lighter load does not have to be a bruiser. Or load a 200 grain double. 00 shot. Down side is this is a very heavy little gun.
Many years ago my brother had a 45 ACP subcompact that I shot once and by once I mean one round. That was all it took to convince me that big rounds in tiny pistols was a fool's choice. It didn't help that the grips were sharply checkered walnut but the biggest problem is they ended in the middle of my palm. You could barely get two fingers on it. I couldn't even imagine what the 45-70 felt like. 😳
Yeah I have a light S&M revolver that shoots 38s and I call it the fast ball. It's like catching a fast ball after you fire it. I have a S&M 357 and it has the weight so doesn't hurt to shoot it.
@@johnnyboy4654 The manufacturer and even model matter. I’ve had and have small packages that handle well and some that act like ornery children. The package matters far more than the caliber
Okay, for one, the .45-70 should be the first one to go off as a last ditch against a bear attack. The .45 Colt should be 2nd and for yourself if the rifle round doesn't kill the bear.
Honestly, if you think your gonna hit a charging bear with that hand cannon I’m impressed. However naive it may be, but it’s an impressive thought. I would imagine that gun would be relied on in a very hairy situation and you don’t want to expend that 45/70 until the bear is close enough to kill you.... Good luck placing that one ☝️ shot on target at any distance.
Knowing how 410 recoils in a Derringer like that, the visual difference between 410 and 45-70 recoil in the video tells me I don't want to try 45-70. My tip for firing smaller high recoil handguns is to wear fingerless work gloves at the range it saves a lot of pain. I'd be interested to know what the velocity of the 45-70 is out of such a short barrel, it seems there might be a lot of blast and recoil for not much energy in the bullet that leaves the barrel.
I have the S&W survival kit, comes with a M360, shoots 38 special and 357 magnum. The 357 really turns it into a hand cannon, 5 shots. Small, light and consealable.
what a amazing gun I'm going to have to try to get one of those soon that is amazing I love the way my Storm Ruger 71 super Blackhawk Magnum kicks but that thing definitely kicks
No doubt, 45-70 is tough enough from an 1886, shoulder bruises every time. Took me years to find a butt-pad solution but it still hurts like a first wife!
