Well out of all artist the most appreciated should be Joe Budden that's like his only song he's known for not trying to be funny plus that's one of those songs you'll hear decades later at events movies etc that's an all age song that brings people together to have a good time!
The "Gimme dat beat fool..." line was on the Ice Cube song Jackin For Beats and was on the EP Kill At Will in 1990. Guarantee Jay was a fan back then. There's your history lesson for the day
Here's a fun fact. That Kool & The Gang sample, "Soul Vibrations" that Jay-Z passed on and Joe Budden made a hit with, was already used. First, by LL Cool J with "Cheesy Rat Blues", and second on "What's The Scenario (remix)" by A Tribe Called Quest with Leaders of the New School and Kid Hood.
".......and he goes by the name of uhhhhhh.... " What a climatic intro! Then the whole squad shouts his name...to start the 1st verse. They call it a remix. That's scenario Pt. 2 "That's The ScenarioooOOOo!" Ioncare what anybody says. He mentions (Busta) the former title in spoken word in the intro...but closes that last verse w/a long drawn mic dropper better than any "um, yeeeaah..." by any KardaziaaahhN sister, then horns finalize tf outta what I'm saying. BlÆh! BlÆh! (X2) (Don't take the comment to serious as I do this for my own entertainment, mostly. Ty for creating that avenue.)
Jay Z has a particular sound he seems to look for in beats. He carefully picks his beats to match his lyrics/flow. There are tons of great beats I can see Jay Z turning down. That said plenty of rappers/artists get caught up in the moment and will turn down plenty of tracks and I'm sure years later they will be thinking to themselves "why did i sleep on this". I know a few friends I make beats for will call me up like 10 years later ready to do a song, and now I'm thinking the track lost its edge lol.
Spot on and you can tell when Jay was with Timbaland and dirt off my shoulder came on, Jay stood up with authority and head bopped to it instantly, also like Busta rhyme did at Timbaland home studio. Most rappers know what's gonna get them highly motivated to produce a great product. 💯
Minor correction: The line in Jay-Z’s song “gimme that beat fool it’s full a time jack move” is paying homage to Ice Cube who originally said that line in his popular song from 1990 “Jackin For Beats” where the beat would keep switching up throughout the song to various popular beats by other popular rappers of the time. It was never seen as a diss.
You're correct in the reference, but incorrect that it wasn't a diss. Jay loves double entendres which is what that was. The next line is "Don't worry Skano I'll give it back soon". Skane Dollar was Joe Budden's manager
@@TheSupremeDunkHe wasn’t paying homage… trust me. He was paying Joe Budden back for Flow jacking on that record. Budden lifted His flow from “The Bounce”.
This is the best channel on YT so far.ive always wanted to make beats/be a dj, also break-down and analyze production...never did. Ive always had interest in all the oldschool classics, finding out where samples came from.Its so dope what youre doin, appreciate the work, props to you man.
I would love to see a video analysing the Black Thought and Danger Mouse album, Cheat Codes. Listened to it a couple days ago and absolutely loved it. Seeing a video of yours about this album would be incredible
@@NavieDa Dangermouse breakdown (or 2 or 3) would be dope and only you can come correct with it. I’d also like to see you speak on Muggs, The Bomb Squad.
DJ Muggs is one of the most underrated producers in hip-hop history. I would love to see a video on him. Another producer I feel like we’ll never get the credit. He deserves is Mike E Clark. He produced Insane Clown Posse’s actual good albums from the 90s and he never gets the credit due because hip-hop has never embraced psychopathic records. I can’t say I’ve ever been a Juggalo but if you actually listen to the beats on Ringmaster or great Milenko, they are absolutely phenomenal and the mixing is perfect.
Honestly, I think Jay-Z made the right choice. I think the artist that eventually went with the songs also made the right choice. It happened the way it needed to happen for a reason. Jay-Z is still at the top of his game at over 50 years old, choosing the records that he wanted and not choosing the beats that didn’t touch his soul or his heart like they did for you.
Man I have to say.. You are probably the best at breaking down these beats, showing just enough to learn a little game but also not watching a 1 our video. Kudos my man.
thanks for always droppin that knowledge! Also, cool to see you the other day live reviewing beats. Maybe you can live stream you making bangers? peace and love from Japan.
I gotta say, I have broken down 2 of his beats (the other one will come out in a month or so) and I gotta say, he does a lot of interesting things that you don't quite see on the surface
@@NavieD yeah he does. I always loved his production style. I heard the sample he used for Don't Cross The Line by Freeway and can't figure out what he chopped out and how he got it to sound like that
One of my favorite videos you’ve done so far. Being a big alchemist fan myself I have to ask you a question. What do you think about his more recent beats? I recently went looking for inspiration and found most of his new beats, have no snares or claps or anything in that spot. I’ve heard beats like that in the past, but they were far and a few and they were so good that it made up for the missing instrument. In this case it seems in my opinion, like he may have lost his way since P passed but I’m not sure if it was just me.
This is why I asked. I might just be getting old. Alchemist has always been in my top five producers of all time, and Mobb Deep is my favorite rap group. I just seemed to notice a trend and it’s not just with him where boom BAP producers have taken the bap out of the BOOMBAP and I have to say it’s not for me.
@@jrobbin24 you're not objectively wrong, but boombap isn't gonna last forever, my brotha. times are changing and people are growing, changing, and evolving. stagnation is death
3:14 this might be my favorite beat of all time. Funny enough the first time I remember hearing it was when the cactus plant flea market McDonald’s trailer dropped. I thought it sounded A LOT like fun by Vince staples until someone showed me potion by ludacris. Makes me wanna see a Timbaland Vince colab. Beautiful beat
A lot of beat selection has to do with the overall aesthetic of the album. For instance, he wasn’t trying to make an album that sounded like Reasonable Doubt, in 2000. But Jay definitely was taking shots at Budden in the remix. Budden asked Jay to bless the track with a feature, and Jay told him he wld do it for $100k. Budden laughed and the rest is history.
Just found your channel and like your videos. I like how you break down beats in detail. The beats you focus on though? After a few videos I can tell you are an East Coast guy. Man, you’re missing out. You would be awesome if you included more down south, beats that go hard. Or mix in R&B.
While he didn't pass on it, one more classic beat that Jay Z originally was supposed to have is Grindin' by Clipse produced by The Neptunes. Story goes Pharrell called Pusha T and told him if he didn't show up to his studio in 15 minutes he was gonna give the beat to Jay
When Jay took pump it up I was perplexed because the original by Joey was my personal shit. But when Joey re-took the beat back it made me feel better. JERSEY! 🥂
I think things worked out the way they were supposed to. Sometimes, a track is just meant for who ends up on it. Besides, had Jay took those beats, who's to say that they would've been hot records. For example, I heard that Busta Rhymes passed on Lil Wayne's A Milli beat. That song was meant to be just the way it is.
Thing is, he’s got plenty of legendary beats as it is. I’m not sure if he had the bandwidth to bless every single hot beat that came his way. Especially since he wasn’t really a mixtape guy. He was mostly a studio album artist so he was trying to fit a specific sound to make his albums sound cohesive.
Just shows you that even todays top producers cannot make unique drum patterns like these. That's why they are the greats. Dope video as always. Thank you
The fact that Navie knows who the Alchemist even is is a confirmation that he is a true hip hop head. Respect Navie ✊🏾 I personally liked the Alchemist collab with Mob Deep.
Qtip used that Kool and the Gang first for The Scenario remix. 1:45 in. Classic! Just Blaze also bit (yeah that's biting to my old self) the beat he gave J for PSA. That was first used by The BeatminerZ for Black Moon in Stay Real
The first line that Jay spits, "Gimmie that beat fool, it's a full time jack move" was borrowed from Ice Cube's Jackin' for Beats where Cube rapped over 6 other instrumentals. Jay was paying homage with that line. Others will call it plagiarism.
This is a great video! Can't believe anyone would pass up We Gonna Make It. I'm glad he did though because it probably wouldn't have been as great as what Jadakis and Ghist did with it.
I get that there's a spectrum to how claps will feel, and this one would be at home in a club beat, but a clap snapping into a snare has got to be one of the best sounds for east coast beats. Also, the distortion of that studio recording actually makes that sine synth in the potion sound so much cooler, that's the one bit of polish I would add to this minimalist beat.
Wait hold up. How did you get the drum sounds? That alone is so impressive. Are those the actual samples or did you just try to find something by ear that sounded close?
