Thanks for watching our video! You're right! I see it now but I never noticed it at the time I took the video! Thanks for catching that!! We had a 3-hr layover in Manila at the time and then we took a connecting PAL flight to Singapore at about 9:45 am. When we departed Manila for Singapore, our A-321 plane was immediately behind the inaugural UA flight from MNL to SFO. for takeoff. In fact, we saw it took off since we were on standby right behind it. I saw a few plane spotting videos of that inaugural flight from MNL to SFO and I saw our PAL plane right behind the UA plane. Pretty neat! :)
Watched in x0.25 speed to get a better observation of the environmental details…ended up being funny hearing the conversations in slow mo lol 😂. Anyway, thanks for the great vid guys, very helpful in trying to decide if the upgrade is worth it for me. Ingat!
Thanks, Gil & Carol, for posting this. I haven't been to the Philippines since 2006. My wife left last night aboard United for a one month visit to her mother. I am waiting for a feedback from her whether PAL is better or equal to United Airlines. Enjoy.
@@EndOfThings77 I haven’t flown UA long haul so I can’t compare. But UA has more cabin options (economy, economy plus, and economy premium in addition to business class). But the overall onboard service on my PAL flight was excellent.
Thank you. I remember on my last flight to the Philippines in 2006 aboard PAL, it was a huge 747-400. The plane was full (as always), it was also a back up to our original scheduled flight out of San Francisco International (SFO). The original flight was cancelled due to mechanical issues. We had to take the next day's flight from a plane diverted from LAX. Though we were delayed, we weren't angry. The food and service made up for the delay. Ang bango at ang sarap ng food! Just reminiscing it now makes me hungry. Lol 😆 . Thanks for the vlog.
@@EndOfThings77 I have another video of my PAL business class return flight from Manila to LAX. But I haven’t uploaded it yet. Please watch that one as well. Salamat! 😊
Nicely done trip report, thanks for sharing! 👍👍 Despite the outdated layout in a 2-3-2 configuration the seats still look very comfy, at least when seated in a window or aisle seat. Food presentation could be improved but isn't something we would overrate as long as it's good in taste. Safety and reliability are our upmost concern and the warm hospitality the Filipino is well known for of course. 😊 We are currently planning a trip to the Philippines and hope PAL to fly nonstop from Frankfurt, Amsterdam or Paris by than when they have been delivered their new Airbus A350-1000 Aircraft. Again, thanks for sharing your travel experience! 👍
Thanks for watching! Glad you found value in my video! We loved our PAL Business Class experience. Although the seats and layout may look outdated, the enormous space in the cabin is well worth it. The service was outstanding and all the meals were delicious. But most importantly, we had a very comfortable flight! Hopefully, PAL will return to Europe soon with their new A350-1000. Please subscribe to our channel for more of our travel videos. Take care!
I have flown PAL it's a decent airline no perks just a basic carrier. But it is a direct flight which is important to me, I hear they bought new planes but will be a few years before they are in service. I don't think it's worth 5 thousand dollars to fly business class on PAL, but maybe Gil does so be it.
Thank you for watching our video. We have flown PAL several times to Manila over the years, but this is the first time we've flown in Business Class. Sometimes we have to try the finest things in life because life is short. Honestly, I can tell you from our recent experience that it's all worth it. The long flight is more comfortable, more tolerable, roomier, more relaxing, onboard service is more personal, quieter surroundings since Business Class section is small with less passengers around you, food is awesome, more food and drink options, fine dining experience, check-ins are much quicker and more efficient, priority boarding, priority luggages, extra luggage weight limits, exclusive use of the Business Class lounges both in LAX and in Manila, and the overall experience was truly amazing! PAL Business Class is truly a great value! In economy class, we would be lucky to get 2 hours of sleep throughout the flight, and maybe 20-30 minutes at a time. In contrast, we were able to get about 5-6 hours of uninterrupted sleep in business class because the seats lie flat and turns into a bed. We arrived in Manila without a jet lag and felt more refreshed than ever before. Based on that experience, we don't believe we will ever fly Economy Class again to Manila and back. You should try Business Class on your next trip. It's a totally different experience and in my opinion it's worth it! :)
Great to know that you had a positive experience and I will keep it in mind, yes the perks sound nice not sure the extra 4 thousand dollars are worth it cause sometimes i get lucky and buy the seat next to me in economy the day before the flight. That has happened 2 times already and it makes the flight more tolerable, not as good as your seat but better than just having one seat.@@GilCarolAdventures
The A350-1000 will be a nice upgrade for PAL. They will be adding premium economy class seats on these new planes. But their regular economy class will have a 3-4-3 layout, which will be very tight, which means those seats will be very narrow! I wish they would just keep the 3-3-3 layout that they currently have on their A350-900s. Thank you for watching and please subscribe to our channel. I will really appreciate it, thanks! 😊
I agree with you when you say some expect to be traeted like KING and QUEENs in Business Class , BC is for comfort , those who complain are more likely less travelled , 😅
This December it's going to be Bonjour Paris, recently read an article that Air France 🇫🇷 is returning to the Philippines and they will start direct nonstop flights to Manila from their hub at Paris Charles De Gaulle, it will be easier for European visitors coming to the Philippines and for us Schengen Visa holders who regularly travel to Europe. We're the only country in Asia without any direct flights to Europe 🇪🇺 but it will soon change, in the near future we could see Lufthansa, British Airways, Swiss International, ITA Airways (Italia Transporto Aereo) flying back again to the Philippines.
@@GilCarolAdventures Can't wait to be greeted again with " Bonjour et Bienvenue á Bord" by the cabin crew when I travel to France 🇫🇷 in December a complementary champagne 🥂 perhaps.
@@GilCarolAdventuresIt's "Au Revoir" to layovers in between flights to and from Europe, if you plan to travel with Air France 🇫🇷 better take a crash course in the French language. If PAL does plan to fly to Paris Charles De Gaulle the cabin crew should take up French language courses or better hire a French speaker from among Filipinos living in France, Belgium and Switzerland.
Thank you for watching our video! They do have the new business class on their A350-900 aircrafts. More modern design but PAL packed the Business Class section with a lot more seats so it will be a little crowded. We prefer the current Business Class because the cabin is a lot roomier with less seats.
Air Force - 👍. My son and my wife are heading to Philippines next year, so he can meet all his cousins. He said he's only going if he can be in Business class. I think I spoiled him.
If you want the same seat yet better Korean Air Los Angeles to Manila via South Korea. You can still get the same seat layout 2-3-2 and great service. In my case I had a Korean businessman
Thanks for watching! We will try Korean Air one day! We had flown Asiana Airlines numerous times on the same route. Asiana is on a different level. Great service throughout the flight. But Korean Air merged with Asiana so they will be Korean Air!
What do you mean unmatched? Dude this business class product is sub-par compared to most major airlines. We are family of 4 and paid $5,000 ANA's business class cabin "The Suite" from SFO-MNL via NRT, and PAL's price was $5,600 with the same route. Even United Polaris price was only $4900 at the time and both airlines has a better business class product than PAL.
@@marc73kg Thanks for watching my video! Dude, at the time we booked our flights, PAL’s Business Class was about $1500-$2500 less per person than the other major airlines. I’m a travel agent and you paid way too much for your ANA Business Class tickets! PAL's Business Class product is not the most luxurious, but it offers a comfortable journey without breaking the bank! That’s what I meant by “unmatched value.” Remember that preferences vary, and what matters most is the overall experience. Some passengers appreciate PAL's offerings and others prefer other major airlines! Thanks for watching! 😊
I totally agree. We flew PAL business class last April and paid $11,000 for me and the wife. It was the worse business class we ever flew. The planes are old and my wife's IFE never worked, ever after reset several time. The worse part of it was the angle seats. The seats bang on the floor with every dip or turbulence. The 2-2-2 configuration leave no rooms for phone or accessories. Several phones were slipped under the seat during flight. We had to wait for mechanic to come on board to rip the seats apart to retrieve ours. Can't leave the plane without the phone because all the immigration data are loaded for processing at Manila Airport. So glad UNITED now fly nonstop SFO-MNL. Currently, it cost less than PAL. There seats are configured 1-2-1 and 180 degree flat beds. PAL, never again.
@@GilCarolAdventures One thing you have it correct. PAL's Business Class product is not the most luxurious. You have the ability to buy discounted fare because you are a travel agent. Most people are not. One don't fly business class to get second class value. The only reason I selected PAL is because they were the only one that offer nonstop LAX-MNL. Now that UNITED offer the same service from SFO-MNL, PAL, never again. BTW, until the recently new lounge opened on terminal one in Manila, you should see the 'hole in the wall' A-lounge cubby hole they called business class lounge. I would pay more for ANA for luxury and comfort. They are ranked top 5 in the world. The ANA the "Room" set bar for business class.
@@JDere Thanks for watching! Sorry to hear about your bad flight experience with PAL. Fortunately, we didn’t encounter any of those issues that you guys had. Their new planes will arrive next year with a 1-2-1 config in business class and a place to put your cell phone down. I paid $2500 less for my wife and I. But we booked our tickets 11 months in advance. All the other major airlines cost a lot more. I’d rather save my $ for an older business class product and have a comfortable flight rather than paying extra for a fancier seat!
Yeah, it’s not luxurious, but their biz product is good enough. And it’s offers something better than most airlines: convenience. I’d much rather pay the price to avoid an extra 6 or more hours of travel time with a layover and just fly direct to lax. And no way United have a better biz product imo. I’ve flown both. PALs flight experience is slightly better Food/crew/ cabin cleanliness, etc.
That’s the best menu I’ve ever seen in business class! Philippine people are generally nice despite the previous Spanish, US and Catholic interference. How is their wine though?
Thanks for watching our video and we’re glad you enjoyed it! You are absolutely right…. their biz class menu is pretty expansive! Didn’t try their wines but they were available with many options as well. Their onboard service on this flight was impressive too! 👍
Going Solo PAL Business class for the 1st time in my life next year. It will be nice to finally be able to sleep more than 30 minutes at a time. How much is alcohol on the flight? Glass of wine or Champagne ?? Or just regular Red horse beer? Yes, seats against the bulkhead seems best. no one behind you.
Oh I’m excited for you Chuck. Flying business class is worth it in my opinion especially for long haul flights. LAX to Manila is a 15-hr flight. I know what you mean when you only sleep about 30 mins at a time. Been there done that! On this flight, my wife and I were able to sleep for about 5 hrs straight without interruption. The seat turns into a full bed so that’s nice. The current business class seats on PAL’s B777-300ER are somewhat outdated but they’re very comfortable and very roomy. We didn’t drink alcohol so we didn’t ask for any, but they serve them. You don’t pay anything in business class. By next year, PAL may be using their new A350-1000s on the U.S. routes so they will have better business class products. Thanks for watching my video. 😊
First time ko nakita business class ng PAL ok pala, pero economy class naku po nakakapagsisi sobrang sikip hindi pang 14 1/2 hours flight at ang pagkain 🙄
Thank you for watching my video. After flying business class we will most definitely not fly economy class on long haul flights anymore. The extra cost is so worth it. There is a huge difference in the level of flight comfort flying in business class. You should try it on your next flight to the Philippines and you will see the difference! 😊
Thank you for watching! I’m a travel advisor and I can help you find the lowest fare available. Please give me your email and i can send you flight quotes. How many will be traveling?
Thank you for watching our video. As you probably know, PAL is not a member of any alliances. Perhaps PAL contracted with Star Alliance for the use of the Lounge for their Business Class passengers!
hindi lahat ng PAL business class ay ganyan. Yung PR 112 ay luma na at di ganyan kalaki ang space ng seating. I believe that the PR112 needs a lot of renovation in the business class or decommissioned it.
Thank you for watching. We actually love the extra space of this seating configuration. Much better than the new biz class on their A350-900. in my opinion.
I haven’t flown on their A350 yet but the old business class on their B777-300ER is much roomier based on the photos and videos I have seen of the A350. The noise level on their B777-300ER is pretty quiet .
My biggest disappointment with PAL is that they don't have any flights to Europe particularly in the Schengen Area which I travel mostly still need to go to Hong Kong for a connecting flight via Scandinavian Airlines or Finnair to my destinations to airports in the Nordic countries such as Copenhagen, Stockholm or Helsinki. Hopefully European Airlines that used to fly to the Philippines in the past such as Lufthansa, British Airways, Air France, KLM, Swiss International even Alitalia (now ITA Airways) could make a comeback.
Thank you for watching! Maybe next year when PAL starts receiving their new A35Os, they may be able to return to Europe with their additional planes. I know KLM still flies to Manila from Amsterdam.
@@GilCarolAdventures PAL only intends to fly to London which is not part of the Schengen Area most of my European travels are in the Nordic states especially in Norway. For PAL it's a great disservice to Filipinos being left out in Europe since European Airlines have ceased flying to the Philippines due mainly to unfavorable playing field and too much favoritism on their part.
@@dennis12dec I hear ya! PAL should really explore that Nordic route. Maybe they believe it’s not a profitable route. I think the London route was a bust for PAL so they discontinued.
@@GilCarolAdventures I used to fly with Lufthansa during my past travels to Europe until they stopped in 2003 many of my German friends who want to visit the Philippines but it's a hassle as there's no direct connection to our country they ended up in Thailand, Malaysia, and Singapore instead of coming to the Philippines.
@@dennis12dec That is really sad! Hopefully when this new international airport in Bulacan opens in 2027, maybe these European carriers will make a comeback! 🤞
No wonder their BC airfare is cheaper than other airlines,their BC seats are really dated..When they replace the old 777 with newer planes the price will increase..
Thank you for watching our video. Yes, I agree that the BC seats on their 777s are outdated. But on the plus side, they are very comfortable and roomy. The new BC seats on their A350s (used on the Manila-New York route) appear to be more modern, more luxurious, and more private, but I’m not sure about the comfort level since I haven’t flown on their A350s. Wishing you a happy New Year!
@@GilCarolAdventures Happy New Year to you also..will check out flights out of JFK,also researching Zipair no frill BC..Have to fly to Bangkok early next year,maybe March or April..
@@LastTwilight1394 yes, you can order from the menu, but you can’t order all of them. You can order an appetizer, main course, dessert, and drinks. You can ask for more if they’re available.
This will be my first time flying PAL business class and i have no idea what to expect, I am coming from LAX to Manila,are foods in the lounge free?....well, i have yet to find out and hopefully everything will be fine
Thank you for watching our video. PAL Business Class was worth it for us. Yes, it’s pricey but still costs much less than other Airlines’ business class. We were able to get 5-6 hrs of continuous sleep on this flight and arrived Manila refreshed and no jet lag, unlike in Economy Class. The use of the Lounge at LAX and Manila are free for Business Class passengers. The key to enjoying your flight is not to have too much expectations. Many people expect to be treated like kings and queens in Business Class and then they get disappointed. We just wanted to travel more comfortably and that’s the key. You also get priority boarding and priority luggage handling. So when you arrive in Manila, your luggages will come out first. You also get additional luggage weight allowance. 70 lbs each instead of 50 lbs. Also, please watch our return trip video that I posted yesterday from Manila to LAX, also in Business Class. Thank you and I hope you enjoy your PAL flight like we did! Just don’t expect too much and you’ll be just fine.
Thanks for responding quickly,the main reason for me fly business class is to travel comfortably,i don't like to be crammed in a tight economy i had that before and of course another reason for flying PAL is direct flight,yes it is pricey but we deserve it ?after all that is what we work hard for...thanks for confirming,and hopefully seeing your other videos in the future....i can't wait to experience it🤗
@@ashleyadams9874 Hello Ashley! This is Gilbert and I will help you! 😊 Please text me your trip request and I will respond to it. My cell: (661) 310-4819 or email: vacationgems@yahoo.com
What ever happened to PAL Flight Attendants, hindi na nga ma…… pag na greet hindi naman nakatingin sa iyo, 09:15. Tsk tsk tsk mababa na talaga ang standard PAL.
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I cant wait for new orders of 10 airbus 1000s . United states lost fight with european airbus. They are kire sophisticated and advanced. Stylish and roomy just look at the airbus new wide screens i. Truly high definition seeting compartment with thompson are way better.
The A350-1000s will certainly be an upgrade from their B777-300ERs in terms of fuel efficiency and passenger comfort. I am excited to fly on one of those. 😊
Each to his own. If you can afford to pay an air fare for $8000 more for more leg room, probably better food or flight service, go ahead burn your money up in the air 😂. While you and I are inside the same aircraft landing in the same destination at the same time, I’ll fly economy and spend the $8450 (I checked) that I saved enjoying my vacation and back! 😂🤭👋
@@USA-CANADA1480 Hey there! Thanks for watching my video! I totally get where you’re coming from. Saving money is always a smart move, especially when it comes to travel expenses. However, I think it really depends on what you’re looking for in your travel experience. For some, the comfort, convenience, and extra perks of flying business class can make a huge difference, especially on long-haul flights. Plus, if you can find a good deal or use points, it might not be as expensive as you think. I’m a travel agent and I was able to get a really good deal! Other airlines cost about $2K more at the time I purchased my tickets. At the end of the day, it’s all about what works best for you and your budget. Safe travels! ✈️😊
I have sworn not to fly PAL ever again. I have never experienced a worse airline to fly. From the time you arrived at ticketing to departure to arrival. Service was so bad that flight attendants act like too good to serve people in economy. I even doubt that PAL makes any maintenance at all.
Thank you for watching our video. I am sorry to hear about your bad experience flying with PAL. Everyone has different flight experiences and different expectations when it comes to flying with a certain airline. No airlines are perfect and each one of them have their own flaws. I hope your next flight to Manila or anywhere else will be a pleasant experience! :)
PAL has some of the best pilots in the industry the landings are always flawless from my experience, and they bought new planes which will arrive next year or soon after.
@@dmanmorales7385 I agree. Their new Airbus A350-1000s will arrive around the last quarter of 2025. Those will be used for LAX and SFO flights. That should be a much-needed upgrades to their existing fleet.
Thanks for watching! The 2-3-2 config may not be ideal for single travelers, but it’s perfect for us couples traveling together with a window seat. Also ideal for a family of 3 traveling together. But comfort level and service are 10/10! They can’t please everyone! 😊
So pleased some of you have experienced a bad experience with Philippines airline.l can't explain how bad they are from shit food to bad check in experience who would want to fly them again also remember they do not honour a refund a 1star airline.They obviously bought a 4 star alliance through skytax
Thanks for watching my video. I’m so sorry to hear that you didn’t have a pleasant flight experience with PAL. Hope that you won’t have the same unpleasant experience with any airline!
@@GilCarolAdventures apart from pia and 3 Chinese airlines I have flown on they are the worst.I do not include Taiwan as being in china and all 3 are excellent
Thank you for watching! Yes, I agree with you 100% that PAL's business class seats are outdated. But, have you tried them? I can tell you that we had VERY COMFORTABLE flights, both outbound and inbound because we had so much space! Check out our return business class flight from MNL to LAX. Same story! As you probably know, our flight from LAX to MNL was 14+ hours in the dark and we didn't see daylight until we landed. I can honestly tell you that my wife and I were able to get non-interrupted sleep for about 6 hours from LAX. We arrived MNL fully refreshed with no jet lag, which is something that we could never do in Economy Class. So was it worth it? For us, that's a BIG yes! But most importantly, it was the best business class value for our dollar. At the time I booked our flights, PAL's business class was about $2K cheaper than its competitors. We weren't looking for the best and modern seat design, but we booked it for its value and comfort. We got both with PAL. What more can you ask for? We would do it again!
what a joke - i would never fly PAL again even if i have to stop over somewhere - PAL business class is not worth it - correction - PAL is Not worth it
Thanks for watching my video. Sorry to hear about your bad experience with PAL. On the contrary, we had a very pleasant experience. We slept for about 6 hrs straight (this was a 15-hr flight), something we were never able to do in Economy Class. We arrived in Manila fully refreshed with no jet lag. So yeah, for us, Business Class was worth it and we don’t believe we will fly Economy Class ever again on long haul flights.
@@christopherlorenzo6026 Thanks for watching our video. True, those seats on their 777-300s are outdated but they are very comfortable. SQ Business Class seats cost about $2K more. 😊
Thank you for watching my video. I agree that PAL's Business Class seats on their B777-300ER is outdated (about 14 yrs old to be exact). However, I booked PAL Business Class for convenience, affordability, comfort, onboard service, food options, flight schedule, and overall value! Other airlines' Business Class to Manila cost about $2K more with more modern seats that you like. You are absolutely correct that PAL's Business Class seats are so outdated, but have you flown on it? You should try it for yourself! I can tell you that those outdated seats are very comfortable, very spacious, and more important, they are functional. We had everything we need for a wonderful flight experience. We slept for about 6 hours straight without interruption, and we arrived in Manila fully freshed with no jet lag. The onboard service with the heart of the Filipino was a big BONUS! But I respect your opinion!
@@GilCarolAdventures I agree with you, the best part of BC is the ability to lay flat and sleep comfortably on long haul flights @12:55. The overall value is very good!
@@carlosronquillo7555 thank you for watching my video and your comments. You don’t need a fancy modern seat to be comfortable. The most important for us was to be able to get some sleep lie flat and we did just that! 😀
@@GilCarolAdventures Yes, I could have booked with another modern newer airline but you are right that it would have cost around 2K more and that 2K goes a long way in the Philippines :). Just a side note, years ago I booked a first class ticket from LAX to MNL on a 747. There was a young lady seated next to me and there were some commotion regarding her. Not sure what it was but the two of us were the first one out and the first one to get our luggage. I hardly talk to her and later on found out she was Lea Salonga. LOL
@edenlee2016 - thank you for watching my video. However, I am not a vlogger per se. I created my RU-vid channel to share “my own experiences” thru my videos so that my family and friends and those who subscribed can be inspired to travel just like my wife and I. If I can inspire at least one person thru my videos I will be happy. It’s not my style to narrate or make opinions about airlines or places we visit. That’s not me. Everyone is unique and has different styles. That maybe your style or others you may have seen, but that’s not what my videos are all about. I don’t make reviews or make comments or opinions about PAL or anything else. Show me a requirement that you have to “narrate” or “speak” to relay your messages across your audience. You won’t find it anywhere because it doesn’t exist. The videos I create speak for themselves! I make my videos the way I want them. I know that not everyone will like my videos but you can’t please everyone. Obviously, you’re one of those! But at the very least, thank you for watching.
@@emelio7995 lol PAL domestic isn't even considered a premium in the Philippines especially since they mix in PAL express flights into their scheduling. At that point you're just paying a premium for a low cost airline. Infamous for delays and overbooking as well.
@abrina99 is right, WHAT A JOKE! The remote control did not work I had to use my foot the change the channel or do something on the screen. Then I think it was breakfast, the flight attendant asked me what I want, I said the bangus and she oh I’m sorry we’re are out of it. I paid almost $4K that time when the airlines are bouncing back from the pandemic. For me this is a lot of money. Now that United Airlines is going to the Philippines, I think i will try them or other airlines but NOT PAL. But Gil and Carol looked like were having a good time with PAL, you got lucky!
philippine airlines boeing 777 is almost 10 years old expect some damages on some parts of the plane but what i agree with you is the price and service
@@AlexAvation Thanks for watching my video. PAL's first B777 was delivered in 2009 so that jet is about 15 years old. The A350-1000s are replacing their 777s starting in late 2025.
Never fly PAL ever again. After we were left sleeping in the transit lounge when our flight back the US from Brisbane was cancelled in Manila. And the food given to us was a scoop of rice, one chicken wings and a soda. ✈️👎👎👎
Thanks for watching our video! So sorry to hear about your bad experience with PAL. I would be very upset too if that happened to us. In perspective, things always happen for a reason. I hope something better came out of it.