The UNTOLD Story of Shalamar

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They weren’t even supposed to be a real group but, that would all change when their very first song made waves on the dance, R&B and pop charts. After a couple of early member changes, the classic lineup of Shalamar would go on to experience several years of major success. Then, conflicts began to arise between the members and their record label as well as among the members themselves that would ruin everything.
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@beaniegee5129 Год назад

A Night to Remember is a timeless Cookout classic hit

@danavixen6274 Год назад

Or it could be a wedding 💒 reception anthem! I love that song! Really smooth when Jeffrey moonwalked to this at Top of the Pops! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@nesoldier74 Год назад

Yes. loved it when the girlfriends danced to it at Toni and Todd’s wedding. So upset that they removed the song from the dvds. I grew up listening to Shalamar.

@MrLionelg33 Год назад

Better than mary j. blige version.

@delorescannon455 Год назад

Yes lord

@user-wd1fp4jp2j 5 месяцев назад

Yep!

@beaniegee5129 Год назад

Shalamar has timeless classic hits!!

@allaboutprimetime Год назад

their so underrated

@colly7963 Год назад

One of my favourite groups. ❤

@jerronwesley4473 Год назад

And one fact about Jody is she was a choreographer for Ms Aretha Franklin who encouraged her to sing ! The Queen of Soul saw Jody’s potential as a singer so no one can question her vocal abilities.

@errolthomas9426 Год назад

My best Shalamar joints are Take That To The Bank, The Second Time Around(12" version), Right In The Socket, Make That Move, A Night To Remember, and Over & Over

@dawnsmart8283 Год назад

I love Over and Over!

@mothom323 Год назад

I forgot about Make That Move

@beaniegee5129 Год назад

Shalamar's A Night to Remember has been sampled and covered by Mary J. Blige, Mase, Kris Kross, just to name a few

@beaniegee5129 Год назад

Last year was the 35th anniversary of Jody Watley's self-titled debut album

@danavixen6274 Год назад

Rest in peace, Don Cornelius. 😔🙏🏾❤️🕊️Shalamar were/are LEGENDARY! Jody, Jeffrey and Howard are LEGENDS who are gifted to this day! Love their music! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@AlanaGurl Год назад

“A night to remember “ and “For the lover in you” are forever my favorite r&b songs. Great video!

@nicolesherman8974 Год назад

I’m excited for this video! Don Cornelius really was the goat for creating groups from Soul Train. Both Jeffrey Daniels and Jody Watley were dancers on Soul Train before Shalamar. I think it’s time to give Jody Watley her flowers. An unsung pop star that is greatly under appreciated 🌹🌹.

@danavixen6274 Год назад

Still loving the BEAUTIFUL Jody! So glad she won a Best New Artist Grammy in '88!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@Shalamarshalamar Год назад

Its Jeffrey Daniel ....not Jeffrey Daniels

@drwhatson 5 месяцев назад

Cornelius set up the label - but didn't "create" the group. Simon Soussan and UK DJ Ian Dewhirst came up with the recording 'Uptown Festival' and also the name. All of this was widely documented at the time in UK's Soul magazines.

@user-ip2zz9yf4i 4 месяца назад

I think you're right about giving Jody her flowers. She probably would have agreed to do a reunion with the group if her experience hadn't been so negative with Howard and others.

@beaniegee5129 Год назад

Next year will be the 35th anniversary of Jody Watley's second solo album Larger Than Life

@AquariusSoul Год назад

Jody is beautiful! Their time as a group spawned classics that are still played to this day. Juicy Pop, thanks for posting that Jody Watley letter link. She served piping-hot tea and receipts!! I stand with her. She deserves respect and her flowers too.

@thegoldenseatlife Год назад

Love Shalamar! Jody Watley is my GIRL!! love her, and played her first album on repeat daily, especially in college. I loved her fashion...classic music!

@firouz256 Год назад

The Grammy winning Jody Watley once was living in the pop Olymp with with Madonna, MJ, Janet and Prince! She is one of the most innovative, unsung, underrated and fashionable and biggest stars in the world. The first to wear high fashion in pop mainstream (Gaultier and Westwood since the late 70ies! and the iconic cone bra in 1983 in "Where The Boys Are" and again in 1987 on the cover of "Don't you want me") The first to Vogue and whaack in pop mainstream (Still A Thrill) The first to catwalk in a video (Real Love) The first to have a cover on a fashion magazines (Spur) The first to work with future film directors on her videos (David Fincher for "Most Of All") The first to mix rap and pop in pop mainstream (with Rakim) No Jody Watley = No Rihanna, Amerie, Beyonce! She needs her own video!

@sarahsmithfield8874 Год назад

Right…… Jody Watley needs her flowers 💕💯💯💯

@kennethcooper4767 Год назад

Madonna stole her style

@corneliuswashington-gp1we Год назад

....David Fincher also directed Real Love....

@firouz256 Год назад

@@corneliuswashington-gp1we I know!

@Biprov Год назад

Not a single lie told. And her newer music from the 2000s onward is FIRE!

@thebrownbaldy Год назад

What I really learned from this is that Michael Jackson "borrowed" the moonwalk from Shalamar. Another lesson learned is that anything on RU-vid "goes missing" if it spills the tea on any drama too 😂. BUT I'm gonna keep remembering the hits Shalamar put out.

@00sbabyoldschoolspirit80 Год назад

😂😂😂😂... I wonder what's the real story how Michael started doing the moonwalk.Because there's so many different stories and so many people have claimed to have taught him.First with Jeffery saying Michael asked him to teach him.Then Michael chambers said Michael asked him along with some other break dancers to teach him.Then a couple of years ago in bobby brown's book he claims he taught him.

@jaye501 Год назад

he didn't get it from shalomar... he got it from jeffery daniels... and that's not a "story"... it's the truth....

@jaye501 Год назад

@@00sbabyoldschoolspirit80 michael got it from jeffery daniels... and that's not a "story"... it's the truth....

@beaniegee5129 Год назад

Happy belated birthday Jody Watley!!

@mynameisstacey6217 Год назад

Thank you Jody, Jeffrey and Howard for the hits ❤

@feleciachance8987 Год назад

Jeffery is underrated with those dance moves.

@rightknowledgeman Год назад

Rolling Stone magazine called them one of the best sounding groups of all time. Shout out to Leon Sylvers for giving them the high powered production to make them elite😎

@shaylah2725 Год назад

guna make this a night to rememberrrrr 🙌🏾💙 that bass is one of the best 💯

@calebdouglas7622 Год назад

Jeffrey Daniel the original Moonwalker.

@MrLionelg33 6 месяцев назад

Before michael jackson did it

@user-wd1fp4jp2j 5 месяцев назад

Так Джеффри и был хореографом Джексона 😅.

@brownparkproductions3488 Год назад

“Bl0win’ like Shalamar in ‘81…” -Ghostface K!lla, Wu-Tang Clan’s “Triumph” Shalamar has so many hits. Jody Watley is an underrated legend.

@nijiajohnson8189 Год назад

This channel only gets better and better

@smokeem5893 Год назад

I do remember that series Jody did about the unsung episode. She really cleared up a lot of things. I'm still a big fan of Shalamar maybe one day the original group will unite.

@timothykangethe7700 Год назад

A Group that had the Midas Touch to Musical Hits. Sincerely hope they can bury the hatchet for good...🤝 Positive Energy ⛮ to Ya'll 🎇 🎇 🎇

@55hivealive3 Год назад

My favorites by them are "Dancing in the Sheets" and the brilliant "Second Time Around" so many high quality dance tracks, not just the ones that received radio play

@ytallowskids2seedepravityb219 Год назад

Jodie Watly is so gorgeous! And Night to Remember is a CLASSIC cut

@user-wd1fp4jp2j 5 месяцев назад

Обожаю Джоди Уотли! 😊❤

@coreycooksey1668 Год назад

They need a movie!

@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад

Shalamar is classic music stuff! And I don't blame Jody for doing her own thing and maintaining her stance of not wanting to reconcile with HH. A year or two ago, I watched a YT video of him asking for forgiveness regarding the past strife between the two of them. Well, sometimes the damage done is so great there is never any going back.

@MCharlerySmith Год назад

I've seen Jody troll Shalamar's social media too. I think she just needs to let go of some stuff; the beef is 40 years old now.

@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад

@@MCharlerySmith I've seen it too. Guess everybody just can't simply "let go", as you say🤷🏽 yet some artists who have had long time rifts with each other in many other groups have been known to "let go" and feign camaraderie at reunion performances simply for the paper. The industry is something else!!

@christinewomack8999 Год назад

They was young, inexperience and just full of their themselves, but that who did what to who is plan childish. No body from the group was superstars, just because won a 1 Grammy is no big deal Howard has a Grammy too so what! Tried of this group. You are not together any more, stop talking about it!

@TheLemon333 Год назад

At the end of the video it says thet reunited for a tour in Europe. Sounds like they made up after his apology.

@InglewoodsFinest71 Год назад

@@TheLemon333 There is a Shalamar that been touring overseas Shalamar since 2005 look they videos up the female is the daughter that owns the Solar label her name is Carolyn Griffey,Miss Jody still solo her you tube channel is Jody Watley

@lolafairchild88 Год назад

Get ready! Tonight! Gonna make this a night to remember ✨️! I love this channel. Ya'll always start my day off right 🩷!

@jayfriday9485 Год назад

Jeffrey, Jody, and Howard were my favourite lineup (admittedly the one I knew of). so proud of their success in the uk 🇬🇧’make that move’, ‘second time around’, ‘there it is’, ‘a night to remember’, I can make you feel good’ and ‘friends’ are my favourites 💜

@MrBlaq Год назад

Shalamar is in my daily rotation

@mrsexyhair1 Год назад

😁 Shalamar did not let us down in any way... in music 🎶 or behind the scenes 😅 & they will always have fans ♥ too. Thanks SHALAMAR 🙌🏾💯💥

@mikeurias770 Год назад

It's sort of bittersweet to learn that there was some "tension" going on there between these talented people. Their music really inspired me towards other R&B artists as I grew up in the 70s and 80s. This style really shaped my mind in my belief that music is really universal. And their ballads helped to shape my heart and in what I have come to believe love is, both friendship and romance. I prey that God shines on them for all of the happiness that I experienced from their beautiful voices and faces.

@jasonfield7825 Год назад

To date as a solo artist, Jody Watley has 6 Billboard Hot 100 Top Ten Singles, 13 Number 1 Dance Singles, 2 R&B Number 1's, 15 Top 40 Singles. Scoreboard

@cinnamonspice4389 Год назад

One of my favorite groups of all time.

@johnnyestrada6993 5 месяцев назад

Over and Over is such an underrated song of theirs.

@bobthebarber777 Год назад

One of my favourites on vinyl!! 🙏🏻❤️

@alexandergrande Год назад

i’ve been getting into jody recently so this is perfect timing!😊

@user-wd1fp4jp2j 5 месяцев назад

😂😅

@frankzito8653 Год назад

This is fantastic! I've been a fan of both Shalamar and Jody's forever. I never understood some of the backstory. But I'm happy that all involved are still doing their thing......and doing it very well.

@beaniegee5129 Год назад

Gotta love these stories so much

@abiola33 Год назад

Thank you for another entertaining and timely upload! 💙

@justmarguax9207 Год назад

Never knew these details. Another great one!! Love this chanel.

@generalinformation3507 Год назад

I Didn't know that Carrie Lucas was dick griffey's wife. She had some slamming songs on solar also, Show me where you're coming from and a remake of hello stranger. Their in house producer was Leon sylvers So he was the one who came up with that solar sound🎤🎤🔥

@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад

Oh yes, very lovely voice she had. Her Disco hit I Gotta Keep On Dancin' rocks too.

@ronzh9646 Год назад

Also Leon’s kids had a group called the Sylvers. I love their music. Hotline is one of my favorites.

@generalinformation3507 Год назад

@@ronzh9646 Leon was part of that group, that was him and his brothers and sisters. They were trying to find a family group to go against the Jackson 5. Also when Leon was with solar he was part of a group called dynasty, Their songs sounded like shalamar

@La-wr5dn Год назад

@ronzh9646 Not his kids, his siblings and he was a part of the Sylvers as well.

@JeremiahSpeaks Год назад

Hey, why did you change the name to Juicy Pop? I like it just curious

@JuicyPopEntertainment Год назад

Just wanted something more catchy and rolled off the tongue easier. 😉

@JeremiahSpeaks Год назад

@@JuicyPopEntertainment I see. I like it. Happy Black History Month my sister 😊

@taureanmay7480 Год назад

@@JuicyPopEntertainment good.

@cleftheart1969 Год назад

Night to remember and second time around are my favorite glad they solved their issues too much energy to carry all those years IJS

@AprilRoxStudios 6 месяцев назад

Great video. Thanks!

@charliXCXbox555 Год назад

Pls make a video about jody watley!

@pawdaw 3 месяца назад

I love Shalamar and have so many great memories of their music. There's been a lot of acrimony and blame shifting through the years. I wish there could be forgiveness and letting go of the past.....doesn't look like it's happening any time soon. Such a shame.

@ZKH6969 5 месяцев назад

Wow, the things you learn from such videos. Eye opener with Jeffrey’s dance move,backslide. Great stuff.

@interwebtubes Год назад

A really nice piece, It definitely covers everything, Peace and prayers go out to everyone

@78Sista Год назад

Loved Jeffrey Daniels 'fro. It wasn't the same Jody and Jeffrey left the group 😉

@Shalamarshalamar Год назад

Its Jeffrey Daniel ....not Jeffrey Daniels

@martymart1048 Год назад

What happened to the guy that Charlie Murphy was talkin about on the Chappelle show? Micki Free

@martymart1048 Год назад

I made comment before the end.lol

@ericaem75 Год назад

I came to see if someone else knew about that epic basketball game!

@redmambafungs1294 Год назад

Love and business usually doesn’t work out

@michaelfrazia4569 Год назад

thanks for this...love this stuff

@mys3682 Год назад

Y'all must've been reading my mind.

@JSustain Год назад

I loved Jody Watley. She was perfect in my eyes.

@roughrider2023 Год назад

Thank you that was awsome!

@GoofyFlan Год назад

WhOO! 'Let's find the time for love', is the JAM.

@InfectiousGroovePodcast Год назад

Shalamar is a group I didn't even know about until I heard a song on one of those K-Tell compilation records in the mid 80s. They were the only artist I hadn't heard of on that album. I loved the song and picked up a full album.

@nataliemscrzysxycoolharris Год назад

SOOOOOUL TRAIN 🚆!! Jody & Jeffrey were my faves. I loved watching them dance. I really like Shalamar too! They still have the cookout jams. When Jody went solo was when I really emulated her dance moves. #HASTALAVISTABABY

@meyerj75 Год назад

Shalamar will always be known for what they did onstage, not offstage.

@brianmaxei8898 Год назад

We will a And aways love Jodi Whatley amazing singer amazing voice Brian from St Louis mo

@thinktank0218 Год назад

My dream is this. Leaders of the new school. One and last time together. Commodores with Lionel Richie one last time or one last tour and Shalamar a of them one last time and I'm done

@beaniegee5129 Год назад

Besides Babyface, Shalamar's This is for the Lover in You, rapper A+ sampled that song for his song All I See in 1996

@sandraandrews9907 Год назад

Don't forget LL Cool J rapped on Babyface's song. 🎶🎤🎶

@caligirl10 Год назад

I still listen to “All I See”. This comment shocked me lol Not to many people remember A+.

@Nina525 Год назад

My Mom loved them.💜💜💜💜

@EricBK88 Год назад

Thank you for introducing me to Shalamar.

@Shadowbannddiscourse Год назад

Love shalamar I grew up off their music I didn't know the stuff went down though

@sarahthomas2506 Год назад

I grew up on this group! Cookouts yes! The soundtrack! Second Time Around and Night to Remember! I still jam off these songs! Songs of my life!! There was a lot of drama behind the scenes as well!!😻😻😻😻

@jayjay1974Herbs Год назад

I can make you feel good is in my top 5 favourite songs ever

@RichardBrown-fw5iy Год назад

The Dance that Jeffrey Daniel did which was the back slash better known as the Moon Walk….during the 1970’s Pop lockers dancers young blacks groups were doing this dance long before Daniel…Daniel was the first to put it on TV he later showed MJ how to do it with Poppin…Which MJ incorporated into his dance act……This is not cap I witnessed these dances first hand from the pop lockers……I was one of them

@ortizmusic7115 Год назад

That SOLAR sound from 79 to 82 was incredible, all ther acts had hits, and the production was copied from other labels, but the sound died in mid 80s. Today most of those hits are remixed millions of times. Jody's voice is the stamp of that time, like Diana Ross for Motown.

@knockshinnoch1950 Год назад

They were the hottest R&B/soul/dance group in the UK for a couple of years. They could do no wrong. Stepping away from the traditional R&B outfits with everyone in the same suit and embracing the New Wave aesthetic meant that more UK kids could identify with the band. Pity the egos, petty jealousy and bad management ripping them off was the final straw just at the height of their career- they had a couple of good years left in them.

@THEREALHONeE733 10 месяцев назад

A night to remember is definitely my top favorite ❤

@jaylene.turner6524 10 месяцев назад

Jody was the sound of Shalamar, and she’s still having a great solo career.

@scottbakanumba1heathen313 Год назад

One of my favorite groups.

@aliceinchainz3003 Год назад

i dont know why jodi reminds me from thelma from goodtimes lol she just does.

@ladymahogany1 11 месяцев назад

Interesting material

@rodx.8723 Год назад

I was absolutely in LOVE with Jody Watley! She was my girlfriend and later we got married.....she just didn't know about it.

@thecloud9effect765 Год назад

LOL

@LilRocker2005 Год назад

"The Look" is my favorite Shalamar album!

@Elwrt455 22 дня назад

Jody! Jody! Jody! She is very down-to-earth and a living legend.

@fender1000100 Год назад

Amazing soul group. They never got the respect they deserved. Some of their records are amazing. I OWE YOU ONE SECOND TIME AROUND NIGHT TO REMEMBER I CAN MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD Are as good as any music to come out of the soul RnB Cannon. As good as any music PERIOD.

@taureanmay1411 Год назад

I miss Shalamar.

@taureanmay1411 Год назад

Nice 👍🙂 group though.

@taureanmay7480 Год назад

Yes.

@nijiajohnson8189 Год назад

Can you do one for VV Brown

@PichaDisMedia 5 месяцев назад

Jody Watley released a new video regarding lies that are being told by the current shalamar group.

@JonniePolyester 7 месяцев назад

Wow what a fascinating doc! And I thought the Sugarhill Gang story was crazy confusion!

@darrylm3627 5 месяцев назад

😀👍Good to Know

@lucasjames572 Месяц назад

My favorite all-time group. Why the turmoil when you have such success? Whatever name they would’ve had their talent would have carried them regardless.

@HeartBreakHigh Год назад

Whooop! Shalamar are ace! 🙌🏾 💚💚💚💚 💃🏾 🕺🏽

@NellieKAdaba Год назад

👍🏿👍🏿

@roccosophie6498 Год назад

They all need to get back together. Their fans are still around and would be very, happy.😊

@aliceinchainz3003 Год назад

shalamar and rick james were my 2 all time favs

@newme1813 3 месяца назад

I'm a need Howard, Jeffrey, and Jody to get it together ASAP! If it's not THEM, I DON'T WANT IT!!!😊😢❤

@loveyu2778 5 месяцев назад

So sad..We will never see them work together again for one last bow..😢

@rethablair6902 Год назад

I was Jody Watley in my head😋

@MacXpert74 11 месяцев назад

Never knew much about the background of this group. I do like several of their early 80s songs. The one I like the most is "I can make you feel good".

@jacey714 Год назад

Love Shalamar!

@elaineblake1059 Год назад

Love y'all Shalamar❤❤❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯🙌🏼🙏🏼

@dafuk303 Год назад

Backslide! Mind Blown!

@tylermenendez2483 Год назад

Love them

@robertjaime6808 Год назад

Shalamar fans are probably wondering how come Jody doesn’t put her differences to the side and reunite with Jeffery & Howard and go back on tour as Shalamar and make that $$$$$$ while everyone still can! Well, it ain’t gonna happen cause Jody despises Howard Hewett & that’s because Howard was very rude & disrespectful towards her, while Jeffery Daniels, her former boyfriend , didn’t do or say anything to Howard, and after a while Jeffery would sometimes take part in it also, so Jody was taking the abuse from both sides. After awhile Jody realized there was not gonna be any reprecussions against Howard cause he was the front man/ the voice of Shalamar and the records were selling cause of him, that’s when she started to distance herself from the guys and later walking away from Shalamar and never looking back. Howard doesn’t deny it, his excuses we’re; we were young and I was immature back then! And all these years, us Shalamar fans we never knew what was the real truth behind the split, both Howard & Jeffery had their own story and it was always the same excuses, money and Jody leaving cause she wanted to do something else! But like they say, there’s always 2 sides to each story and some where in the middle is the truth! You did the right thing Jody by just walking away and not looking back, that’s called dignity, good for you girl……