Howard Hewett on Telling Jody Watley She'll Never Be Sh** without Shalamar (Part 3) 

Jody deserves her flowers. She was a crucial part of Shalamar and went on to be a huge solo act.

Growing up, I lived next door to Jody and her family. She is the real deal. She is authentically herself, and one of the nicest people you will ever meet. Much love to Jody and her family.

Jody Watley is a Grammy award winner!❤️❤️❤️

Even at 46 years of age, I still get chills when I hear “A Night to Remember”. Jody’s lead and BGV’s on that song is pure gold! Whatever issues they have need to be worked out!

*Jody Watley tells another version. Allegedly😏 (per Jody's video testimony):* During the height of Shalamar's success, Howard was caught-up in his light-skinned.....pretty boy....."I'm gonna be bigger than the group, when I go solo" phase. Dick Griffey (the head of SOLAR) conspired and stirred the situation, giving more money to Howard. Jody's friend (and Shalamar back-up singer) JERMAINE STEWART (rest in power) used to call Jody and tell her they're performing without her. Dick Griffey and Howard were already trying to start-up Howard's solo career. Also, they put Jody on a guilt trip for having her baby from Leon Sylvers (obviously, abortion was implied). To add more insult to injury: Jody's former long-time lover (Jeffrey Daniels) married Stephanie Mills, for a come-up (remember, Stephanie was HUGE, during this era). Jeffrey was being petty and constantly flaunting his newfound "I'm married to Stephanie status" in Jody's face. The coup de gras was the video shoot, for "Dead Giveaway (1983)". Howard instructed Jody's limo driver to leave.....for he and HIS entourage. Jermaine Stewart had to break-up an impending PHYSICAL fight between Howard and Jody ( chiiiile, can y'all imagine this visual!!? ). Per Jody: she also denies the diva perception of the 1997 "For The Lover In You" video shoot. There was some misunderstanding with scheduling, but the producers spun it like she's being a diva. The IRONY: Howard always wanted big, cross-over pop stardom. "Dancing in the Sheets" was close.....but no cigar. MEANWHILE, Jody Watley (whom everyone at SOLAR and her former group members predicted she'd fail ) WON HER OWN GRAMMY....SEVERAL, MULTI-PLATINUM, BILLBOARD POP HITS.....and she's legendary WORLDWIDE. Her close friend, Jermaine Stewart was a BACKGROUND SINGER, for Shalamar. Yet, even HE blew-up, with his HUGE, world-wide pop classic, "We Don't Have to Take Our Clothes Off (1987)". We don't know where life will take us....or who will become what. So, let's keep our egos in check, folks.✌🏾✌🏾

This interview did nothing more than make me love Jody more.

Jody Watley is a legend

Sometimes in life, when you are done. You are done. Respect...

Howard Hewitt, Jody Watley, & Jeffrey Daniels will always be Shalamar in my heart for real no doubt.

Good for Ms. Whatley. She chose peace of mind it sounds like.

My man gaslighting the hell out of Jody

Jody Watley became a huge star on her own anyway. And Before the pandemic hit, I had the pleasure of seeing Jody Watley in concert in here in New York. It was awesome!!!

Jody had a dope ass solo run.

I get the sense that he's not taking full responsibility for how he behaved back then. I refuse to believe he doesn't know why Jody Watley wont fuck with him after all these years, especially since their Unsung episode kinda went into detail. Howard was an amazing young singer and certainly the strongest out of the group so, its not hard to imagine that his ego might have gotten out of control. I dont believe one argument burned that bridge, it must have been a culmination of things. He said himself in this interview that they were meeting to talk about his behavior and things escalated. That tells me he had a history of showing his ass. I know it was a long time ago and you were very young but OWN YOUR SHIT!

Jody is GORGEOUS! She is a great performer. I really love her music.

No matter what internal problems Shalamar had their music is timeless especially for people in love I will still be playing Shalamar in my 80s if God let's me live that long 😊

Howard suffers from selective memory. Jody had beef with the record company cause they were shady. And Howard had a huge ego back in the day and was trying to downplay Jody’s contribution to the group. At one point they tried to downplay her vocals and songwriting contributions. It was a hot mess ‘til she was like, “Peace out.”

Howard is known to be disrespectful, and to say, the reason she's mad, is not the reason she's mad. Shows he is the problem with in the group. For her not to speak to you for all these years. Howard must have said and did something very wrong. He will never own up to it though.

Never cared for Howard Hewitt's solo music, but I was and ALWAYS will be a Jody Watley fan. The best revenge is living well.

part of maturing emotionally is admitting when you were wrong; apologizing and changing your behavior.

Man, Jody wanted an apology. That's all he had to do if he didn't.

We’re losing way too many legends. We need them to sit down, work the issues out and move on.

Jody, Jeff, and Howard will always be the covenant ingredients that made Shalamar, one of the greatest R&B groups of all times. Tremendous force beyond genres!

Gotta give Gerald P. Brown his flowers as the ORIGINAL lead singer of Shalamar. Still alive and touring with Jody Watley.

I had to laugh because Jody blew up larger than Shalamar

You can’t tell someone how they should be mad when you are the one that man them mad in the first place.

There’s a lot of grown men who are going hard (pun intended) with defending Howard Hewitt while trying to downplay Jody Watley’s accomplishments. At this very moment, Jody Watley still has more listeners, subscribers, and streams on Spotify and RU-vid than Hewitt.🥴

Shalamar would never be shit without Jody Watley.

The wildest part to me was Jeffrey Daniels siding with Howard in their revamped version of Shalamar when they started together on Soul Train. There is no Shalamar without Jody Watley

Jody's solo career took off way more than Howard's. I still rock "Some Kind of Lover", "Looking For a New Love", and "Real Love". Howard Hewett is definitely one of my favorite male singers of all time, but he never had a #1 hit. Jody received Billboard's Lifetime Achievement award, 1 grammy win, and 3 more nominations, on top of a host of other awards and special recognition. I agree, her success was the best revenge, but I can also understand not wanting to back to the people who told you it would never happen.

I met this man years ago, trust me, he is a “piece of work.” I can personally say I don’t like HH at all. I had the chance to meet Jody, she was very friendly, personable and a pleasant experience.

Maya Angelou said, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. He showed her who he was. She's probably not angry. She's just decided to leave both Jeffrey and Howard where they were and move on.

& then she went & won a Grammy for *Best New Artist* 🤷🏾‍♂️😂🏆

Well,he was DEAD wrong!!!!!!!!!! Jody outdid him and Jeffrey in her solo career, and is still going strong with her own group Soul Revolution Love. She had multiple hits: “Lookin’ For A New Love”, “Don’t You Want Me?”, “Still A Thrill”, “Some Kind Of Lover”, “Real Love”, “Friends”, “Everything”, and MANY more! By the way, they have seen each other since the breakup. Jody posted pictures of them back in 2009,2016,and 2019.

He knows exactly why Jody doesn't talk to him because he tried all he could to not answer the question straight out.

Jody Watley is an amazing artist! She will forever be an icon. Many people tried to cop her style too.

So basically to sum it up…. he said that to her and never apologized 🤷🏽‍♀️ just say sorry sir.

Yall should watch Shalamars unsung episode, to hear the real story… Howard thought he was bigger than the group

Howard Hewett remade the hell out of “A love of your own” he demolished it! 🔥🔥🔥 he is definitely a legend in the music Industry

Howard Hewitt is right! Jody isn't shit! She's the bomb! She blew up! Her career took off like a space ship! The whole situation was jealously on his part!😎

I’ll always have nothing but love for Howard. He gave me the honor of interviewing him on my podcast a few years ago. It was huge for me, because I was a big Shalamar fan. And also loved his solo work. He is such a humble guy, and it’s a moment I’ll never forget.

I met Howard in Maryland at a club in Bowie, he took a pic with me and was cordial to everyone that wanted a pic. I loved his music growing up, but he was dead wrong for telling Jody that.

I met Jody Watley several years in an elevator at BET, she was so beautiful and humble. We took a pic and she hugged like old friends. I’m a huge Shalimar fan& would LOVE to see them reunited!🙏🏾💐💛🎙

“It’s still a thrill” 🎵 is my favorite song of hers, the music videos in Paris, her style in clothes, was ahead of the game.

Shalimar Reunion with Jody Watley is needed. Second time around. Do it for the culture and R&B. Life is too short. Bring back the classic hits!

He has that joker smile 😃

Jody Watley success was the best revenge. Even after her fame died down in the states she was celebrated in Europe for many years where American R&B is never forgotten.

Babyface got the three Howard, Jody and Jeffrey together to do a show in the UK. The top of the pops. Great interview 👏

Howard is saying that Jody should've had a "Bump you,I'll be successful on my own" type of attitude. I think she opted to let you eat your own words. What he said was disrespectful to her as a artist & devalues her contributions to the success of the group. He let her know how he really feels about her but it's ironic when there's talk of a Shalimar reunion they're ringing her phone.Shalimar was a stepping stone for each of you but Jody's solo projects blazed a trail that so many female artists tried to emulate. Jody Watley IS A FORCE unlike no other! She is one of the baddest female artists of a all time! There's nobody in her lane. You can't fuck with Jody Watley period! You can throw somebody else up on that stage but there's no Shalimar without Jody.

Howard Give Jody her Apology

Jody is NOT doing anything related to Shalamar!! She was disrespected for years, and she doesn’t Phuck with them anymore

He is NOT taking responsibility for his actions trying to blame her relationship with Jeffrey. No howard you had a ego and Jody was not having it honey. Grow up

Never gave the 1st REMIX 'Friends' by Jody Watley and Rakim it's proper due. The Genius of Jody Watley to (name) the successful Single that Howard doubted after the same moniker as their group album. Chess move, because Howard witnessed that success same as the rest of us.

Abusers always have selective memories. They always blame their victims. Just listening to him is sickening. He is lying. Let me tell you ..... when people stop talking to you... You need to really look at yourself. Good for you Jody! Self love. I have had hateful abusive men say the same $hit to me. Ladies, ask questions and pay attention when guys tell you that other women dont speak to them. RUN!!!! Leave them alone. If you don't, your turn is next!~They don't change.... they just find a new way to manipulate and abuse you. Or they are just looking for the next source of supply. I never comment on RU-vid.... but this shit pissed me off.

Howard Hewett is leaving out the part where he kept calling Jody a bitch and that if she was upset then she must be on her period. I don't know if Howard Hewett was drinking or getting high back then and doesn't remember? Jody says the car that was supposed to be for her in London, Howard had used it for someone else and told Jody Watley he didn't care how she got there to take a cab to the video set if she had to. Jody says Howard called her a bitch for the last time on the Dead Giveaway video set and she left the group and hasn't looked back since. Jody has also said in interviews she's the kind of person who always looks forward and doesn't revisit the past.

Sometimes you don't want to go back into negative situations.

Shout out to Andre cymone for working with jody watley...

As a child I loved this group , Jody Watley Wherever you are I want to apologize on Howards behalf, and hopefully you can reunite at least for the fans sake. Life is short and a lot of our legends are leaving 🙏🏿

This was truly a sad interview on many fronts, because for one, if Howard Hewitt knew what drove Jody Watley the other way, he should have been man enough to apologize for his actions, be accountable. And the reason I say this, is because we've all had experiences in our youth, that lasted us for the rest of our lives. It may not have detoured our path in life, but it's stuck in our memory bank forever and we never truly get over it. Howard could have offered closure by openly apologizing to her for the things he said. Because let's face it, words hurt, and they cut us deep to the core of our souls. And as much as I loved their music, I lost so much respect for Howard after this interview, I mean, I have zero respect for him after this interview. Listen, as a man, we all know women can be very fragile, and as a man, we have to be very careful how we handle our women, Howard arrogantly didn't care. I'm just truly disappointed in him, truly I am.

He was an immense talent, an unbelievable voice. He was also cocky and egotistical. Drug addiction humbled his ass.

Shalamar is one of the greatest group's from that era, so much timeless music, forever wil bel one of my favorites of all time. Thanks Vlad for these old school artist interviews.

So he interviewed a legend and never told him that his glasses were crooked 🤦🏾‍♂️🤷🏾

That was a looooooong story, SMH. Given how the Music industry is to women and then black women, I smell a rat. I'm glad Jody moved on.

For Jody to still be this mad and refuse reunion money all these years later. Howard did something bad. He won’t say it. Something bad happened or a string of things

Stay tuned everyone, all three members of Shalamar were very significant in their own right

“Show me” is one of the greatest slow jams EVER

He still disrespected her as an individual. And he still is avoiding responsibility of the argument. Childish as fuq.

My dad was married to this guy's sister.. he never reached out, never answered calls,even when his sister was sick..... not sure I can respect a man like that

Someone tell Howard his glasses are crooked 😭😭

I love Shalamar. Unfortunately, Howard Hewitt is lying when he talks about his beef with Jody. It's cool.

This group had 2 of the best dancers to ever live

I gotta call B.S. on Howard Hewitt. When someone isn't talking to you, you usually know why......And if you want to find out when you don't know, you can always reach out. I gotta call B.S..

Howard told Jody, “you without Shalamar is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes. You’ll neva go platinum!”

I can see Jodi outside of Shalamar but can't see Howard outside of Shalamar.

I remember watching the group Shalamar back in the day and Howard sang lead on most of the songs and you could tell he was full of himself . I'm sure he's said some things like this group would be nothing without me and other things that happened to get back to Jody and she was just done with him . You know Howard said what he said and now acts like he don't remember . He hurt Jody to her soul but she was the one who became the superstar .

Guess Howard forgot on that Unsung episode he said he " might've tried to hit on Jody" but in this interview, he's claiming he wasn't never interested in her like that......🤔

It's amazing how we have access to the internet but people will not use it to research. Jody Watley has addressed this, there's more to the story than what Howard Hewett is telling...

Jody Watley became a huge star without Shalamar. I love the group but I loved her as a solo act. She was idol back then. Love me some.Jody Watley.

Man I absolutely loved Shalimar Jeffrey Jody and Howard. As a fan I would love to see the three of them perform again, but I understand this may never happen.

In spite of what I "heard" Howard say, he never asked for her "FORGIVENESS" for saying those hurtful things to Jody. She has feelings too, and he should have been the "bigger person" and did that. I never heard him say, or anyone else say, that she has said anything derogatory about him publicly or privately. I don't care if the argument happened 100 years ago, when you say mean and hurtful things to someone and when you really "finally" realize that what you said hurt them, then "quickly" ask for their forgiveness. It may not have been a "big" thing to him, but as a young person then and as a much more mature person now, it was obviously a VERY BIG thing to her. Personally, I think that she has forgiven him and moved on, but the hurt is still there and you can't just expect Jody to want to be around Howard knowing that he was not even willing to speak with her one-on-one about this situation after all of these years. Yeah, yeah, "Forgive and Forget" is an easy thing to say, but it doesn't mean that she is willing to spend time around someone (Howard, in this case) that may still even now say something else hurtful to her. Especially, if they never came back and asked for forgiveness for what they had previously said about her. Howard (in my humble opinion) should offer the "Olive Branch," not Jody, that is of course, if he "REALLY" wants to settle things with her.

I appreciate Howard's telling of 'A' story but when it comes to Jody, who I have seen in different interviews while going down the rabbit hole today, she seems very well adjusted. Happy. Content. She does not seem like a small-minded petty woman. That tells me there is more to it. The fact that she has never even said "Now what N" says a lot. The lure of making a few extra bucks means nothing to her. What she feels is deeper than that. When someone does not want to revisit a part of their life it's because it was toxic and or traumatizing. Howard and Vlad can blow it off as a 'That dumb' but IMO it is not. Not everything can be forgiven. Quite honestly his arrogance should be the end of the conversation. Shalamar was who they were. We can listen to their songs anytime. Do your thing Jody!!

I always heard Howard was very arrogant and felt HE was the group. Jody said she moved on and with her solo success I believe her.

A simple apology…. Didn’t hear him say that he apologized. Come on Howard “ Be for real “ .

Whats up Uncle Howard!? Hadn't heard from your Tennessee family in a while huh? Hope Aunt Carolyn is doing well too! God bless you Unc!

HOWARD HEWITT couldn't fill a 300 Person capacity club in RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA I was there...FACTS!!!

I Don't Wanna Be That Last To Know is my favorite song from Shalamar

I was just rockin some Jody Watley yesterday 🎙🎼🎧 Have always loved and admired her voice, style, music & videos ! Still listening in 2023💃🏻

Well 3 Grammy nominations later and 1 Grammy win 🏆...she blew up...in your face‼️‼️‼️

shalamar was so good, one of my favorite groups back in the day

She made a statement at the grammy’s to those who thought she would never make it

Jody decided long ago that she was done with Howard. I don't know why he's on here acting like he hasn't a clue.

"Still A Thrill" is my shit!! Til this day!

Wow...the enlightening info you provided. I see why Jody went her own way....to success and peace of mind. Good move Ms. Whatley! You blew up!!! Such sweet revenge without the bs bogging you down. Blessings come to good people like her.

Jody was the shits with Shalamar and as a Solo Artist!!! Stop hating Howard Hewett!!! Spread the Love!!!

My favorite was "Dead Getaway", LOVE that song!!!

The very reason Jody will never perform with Howard....his arrogance made him think he was bigger than the group. & he talked to them any kind of way. Bruh was a true dirtbag. & now the fans won't ever see Shalamar tour together.

Every time he draws a conclusion about Jody, it sounds self serving.

Where Jody can hold a grudge for real . She moved on. I’m not mad at her .🙂

Love the group. They are all talented.

Jody’s first solo effort and videos attached to it were🔥🔥🔥 success is the best revenge💯👑