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The US Army’s new Service Rifle - The SIG SPEAR / NGSW XM5 

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The SIG SPEAR has been selected as the US Army's new Service rifle. Many people have tons of questions about the SIG SPEAR especially since it’s such a relatively new and in many ways traditional system compared to some of the other competitors in the NGSW. In today’s video we delve into the SIG SPEAR and this video will likely be the first of several that explore the new rifle of the US Military.
00:00 SIG SPEAR review begins
03:06 SIG SPEAR is now adopted
04:54 SIG SPEAR Ammunition is extremely capable
07:05 SIG SPEAR Suppressor
10:27 SIG SPEAR Handguard
14:00 SIG SPEAR Controls
15:59 Problems I foresee with the SIG SPEAR
19:57 SIG SPEAR Trigger
22:23 Final Thoughts on the SIG SPEAR
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All firearms shown are semi-automatic firing from 20 round magazines. All shooting was conducted on a closed private range.

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Комментарии : 14 тыс.   
@GarandThumb
@GarandThumb 2 года назад
A big thank you to Illumined Arms for lending us this weapon!!!
@rootbowy825
@rootbowy825 2 года назад
Can I be borrow one…asking for a friend?
@sambarnes9520
@sambarnes9520 2 года назад
Totally agree Afghan war mind set designed weapon.
@geezerp1982
@geezerp1982 2 года назад
@@rootbowy825 the ATF are on the way to your house ! i hope you dont have a dog
@wirerage1074
@wirerage1074 2 года назад
saw with no sights. let's go!
@sigspearthumb1570
@sigspearthumb1570 2 года назад
Muhahahahah
@jdr130
@jdr130 6 месяцев назад
Good gun but need L4 traders for any good ammo
@quadblaster69420
@quadblaster69420 6 месяцев назад
And by the time you have L4 traders, global restock is out and you can't get it, anyway.
@eobruxo
@eobruxo 5 месяцев назад
If u know u know
@anttikoljonen1941
@anttikoljonen1941 5 месяцев назад
And when you finally get the ammo and the weapon, you get stomped by a wild scav
@quadblaster69420
@quadblaster69420 5 месяцев назад
@@anttikoljonen1941 on streets. Two minutes into the raid.
@Boosted_aj
@Boosted_aj 5 месяцев назад
It’s 350k roubles not worth
@samhamwich6763
@samhamwich6763 2 года назад
As an armed forces memeber who has terrible hearing loss for my age, i cant express how thankful I am for supressors on service rifles. With the amount training you do, this is a godsend regardless of tactical advantage.
@Dyllpicklez-gr8kx
@Dyllpicklez-gr8kx 2 года назад
If I remember the suppressors on these make the gun perform better than with out it as well
@4runnercolorado422
@4runnercolorado422 2 года назад
They need to be readily available to the general public without the whole ATF process.
@nxxynx5039
@nxxynx5039 2 года назад
@@4runnercolorado422 I have no idea why the ATF hates you guys having suppressors so much, here in Europe most rifles come with one already threaded on - it's an expectation and etiquette to use one.
@Weimerica8841
@Weimerica8841 2 года назад
@@nxxynx5039 It's because the entire existence of their agency is based on a century old bill that they are desperate to keep the general public from knowing about. They're so afraid, they don't even ask Congress to raise the price of the tax stamps, when passed it was equivalent to $4,000 current dollars (probably more with inflation lol).
@kieranharper261
@kieranharper261 Год назад
@@nxxynx5039 the problem with the US is, most people usually fall into one of two camps, morons that think any gun should be able to be owned by any idiot with the cash for it, or people who have never shot a gun that think everything about them is terrifying. Funny thing is people think that paying a couple hundred bucks for a suppressor is "infringing on their rights" but nobody has any problem with a rifle that costs several thousand dollars
@goonsquad9997
@goonsquad9997 5 месяцев назад
This guy just killed me on Lighthouse
@ULarry2007
@ULarry2007 4 месяца назад
USEC mfs fr 😭
@pawelunikow1563
@pawelunikow1563 5 дней назад
Skill isue
@derpsakry4464
@derpsakry4464 День назад
Thats what you get for playing fucking Lighthouse
@AJwiththeAK
@AJwiththeAK Год назад
Thing to note is that the m16 wasn’t an immediate home run. I’m sure they’ll learn a lot in the next few years and make adjustments where needed
@maddogs1989
@maddogs1989 Год назад
Actually the M16A1 was a very good an reliable weapon system. Most jams on the M16 was always magazines. The problem in Vietnam didn't come from the M16A1. It came from the experimental version that they bought off the shelf instead of waiting for the production version to be produced.
@dobridjordje
@dobridjordje Год назад
​@@maddogs1989I'd return the A1 as an official assault rifle, probably one of the best rifles ever made.
@maddogs1989
@maddogs1989 Год назад
@@dobridjordjereally an A1 lower and A2 or A4 upper would be perfect
@dobridjordje
@dobridjordje Год назад
@@maddogs1989 Nah just good ole M16A1 30 round mag, birdcage flash hider, but improved sight system to be able to attach scopes and other machinery, it worked in Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Gulf war and Iraq, and sure as hell outclasses the AK platform (albeit 74 is on almost on par)
@maddogs1989
@maddogs1989 Год назад
@@dobridjordje the A1 never had the birdcage that was the A2. It was the A2 in Grenada and onwards at least for the Marines and for the Army it was the A2 from 86' onwards
@aarondinapoli2704
@aarondinapoli2704 2 года назад
I’m a machinist at sig and take a lot of pride in the parts I’ve made for SPEAR and hearing you sing the praises of the rifle make me extremely happy. Keep up the great work!
@Mygg_Jeager
@Mygg_Jeager 2 года назад
Dang that's the job I wanted lol
@TwinkieCakey
@TwinkieCakey 2 года назад
One does not simply has a job that any normal man would want. :D
@Dubaroo99
@Dubaroo99 2 года назад
No u keep up the great work
@gavinm1347
@gavinm1347 2 года назад
Ayo all my fellow NH homies in the chat! Then again all you seacoasters are like masshole transplants 😂.
@Spencer900
@Spencer900 2 года назад
What are the tolerances at sig?
@K.N.P.U
@K.N.P.U 2 года назад
Am I the only one who felt strangely satisfied when he was shooting full auto with the clear mag and saw the bullets rising up?
@brockgundich
@brockgundich 2 года назад
I really liked that too
@dolphin069
@dolphin069 2 года назад
That’s what your mum said.
@claychandler4755
@claychandler4755 2 года назад
I was rising up too, if you know what I mean
@WillMarr13
@WillMarr13 2 года назад
Something else was rising up while I was watching that.
@Judasdfg
@Judasdfg 2 года назад
I don't understand why redditors so often feel the need for internet strangers to affirm their feelings and beliefs. Quit it, it's lame.
@nigelbagguley7606
@nigelbagguley7606 Год назад
The principle of using a higher pressure in the round to maximize the effectiveness of a shorter barrel has also been adopted by the Japanese in their updated MX10 tank.
@SmokesKwazukii
@SmokesKwazukii Год назад
the new optic package combined with this rifle is hella crazy. basically aims itself. put all that with the next gen nightvision theyve shown as well and the lethality range is tremendous in any condition. maybe not necessary for every infantryman but its crazy stuff. the new sig machine guns are even cooler
@knightpal1545
@knightpal1545 7 месяцев назад
Russia gonna be crying when they find out America has aim bot
@thekiller7994
@thekiller7994 6 месяцев назад
@@knightpal1545and they would also be crying since this weapon can penetrate body armor that they claim to “possess”
@knightpal1545
@knightpal1545 6 месяцев назад
@@thekiller7994 well shooting through card board isn't that hard so what's your point?
@thekiller7994
@thekiller7994 6 месяцев назад
@@knightpal1545 I’m just pointing out the fact that this rifle was made to shoot a bullet to penetrate Russian “body armor”
@knightpal1545
@knightpal1545 6 месяцев назад
@@thekiller7994 I was making a joke, that came off as a little aggressive sorry there.
@apaintervids
@apaintervids 2 года назад
Looks like the starting assault rifle you get in every COD game that ends up being the most reliable and OP choice.
@swickzy9250
@swickzy9250 2 года назад
lets hope MW2 isn’t like that and has it that almost every gun is viable and balanced. no more of this single gun metas we’ve seen for years now. edit: this aged terribly
@Caliborino
@Caliborino 2 года назад
Swickzy MW2 already released, Twice, The one we’re getting sold is… Just fucking why?
@brightpri6692
@brightpri6692 2 года назад
@@Caliborino mw2 released once, and the new "mw2" game is a diffrent game than the og mw2
@Caliborino
@Caliborino 2 года назад
BrightPri It released twice with the remaster, I guess the reboot is it’s own series right? Certainly with the goofy redesign of ghost and price now sounding like the great value version of himself. But hey money right?
@brightpri6692
@brightpri6692 2 года назад
@@Caliborino not the mulitplayer. The mulitplayer never got rematstered only the campain
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 2 года назад
At least it's better than AK-12
@user-qb9ec2is9n
@user-qb9ec2is9n 2 года назад
about 5-9% of combat losses is from firearms, the rest is artillery - and US spends billions to replace fully capable M4, not the 60 years old 3 rounds per minute paladin, complete junk against Msta or Coalitsiya. Keep it up!😆 And yeah, if you are shoot - you are dead, was it M4, AK-12, XM5 or Kar98 - no matters
@Mkvine
@Mkvine 2 года назад
The AK-12 is giving you nightmares isn’t it? 😏
@mrs.vasquezz
@mrs.vasquezz 2 года назад
@@Mkvine ye
@mrs.vasquezz
@mrs.vasquezz 2 года назад
Ak12 isnt real and you cant use monkey emojies on YT apparently
@thekraken1173
@thekraken1173 2 года назад
Depends on the purpose
@Wyatt274
@Wyatt274 Год назад
Something to consider, when thinking about the switch from the M14 to the M-16 with respective calibers is that something like the M249 didn’t really exist. Now that we have squad level weapons that are some thing that can be carried and sustained more easily than something like the M 60 moving back to a heavier rifleman round does kind of make sense.
@LaikaTheG
@LaikaTheG Год назад
I was thinking the same thing after rewatching that part of the video just now and I’m glad someone said it. With the Spear also comes the xm250 which is just a Saw on steroids. Meant to fill the same role while being lighter, able to engage at longer ranges (with 6.8), and has quick change barrels
@wolfpack9688
@wolfpack9688 Год назад
You make a great point.
@paulgianni
@paulgianni 10 месяцев назад
I carried the M249 and it was so cumbersome and heavy, it limited my mobility and running distance. The Spear weighs less than half what the Saw does and isn't as bulky. The transition from the M14 to the 16 saved around four pounds for just the rifle, going from the M4 to the SAW almost triples the weight, whereas transitioning from the 7.75lb M4 to the MX7 would be similar in weight to returning to the M14. I can advocate the change to a larger, more powerful round, but I won't have to carry it. When I served, I would have preferred the M14 to the M16.
@JustinVan1986
@JustinVan1986 9 месяцев назад
The M249 wasn’t too bad, but it so often got assigned to the smaller guys of the platoon. If you didn’t get cursed w/ an unadjustable stock, then pop on the short barrel and it’s pretty easy to maneuver. To your point though, that run time and distance plummets.
@zx7-rr486
@zx7-rr486 8 месяцев назад
Two thoughts cross my mind. The original post war thinking was that NATO standardisation was needed and a common single cartridge shared by all countries was ideal. That was supposed to be 7.62, until the US changed their minds and brought in 5.56 for the M16 (ironic because the UK originally pushed for .280). The UK, then stuck with 7.62, used it for riflemen (FN FAL) and machine gunners until the 1980s when they moved to 5.56. If you bring in a 3rd new cartridge, that is going to really complicate logistics and tactics... or is the plan to phase out 7.62? Even if it is, that will take some time, and what about all the many allied NATO countries? The other thing, is that 5.56 still has massive advantages.. you can carry 10kg of 600 rounds. The rifle platforms using it are 5kg or less. The recoil is very low, and it's much more manageable in full auto. This makes it much easier to train basic infantry to use it, especially if you have a conscript army in a time of war. I will be really surprised if 5.56 dissappears.
@aradcliffe585
@aradcliffe585 Год назад
The Montage at the beginning of each of Mike's Videos are becoming that of Legend. Great Video Gents. Big Fan of the Spear
@johngarrettculver7413
@johngarrettculver7413 2 года назад
I think the greatest innovation is that it's balanced well enough to stand on the magazine floor plate. Makes photoshoots way nicer. Welcome to 2022
@leeming1317
@leeming1317 2 года назад
General's lives matter xD
@denmanfite3156
@denmanfite3156 2 года назад
Thank goodness that's the modern blue-hair problem solver.
@luigimrlgaming9484
@luigimrlgaming9484 Год назад
@@denmanfite3156 blue haired people don’t wear body armor.
@JTheraos
@JTheraos 3 месяца назад
Thats not innovation lol tons of guns balance well on the mag.
@hanzwillford5141
@hanzwillford5141 2 года назад
Finally an actual in depth review and not just small snip bits of shooting and rambling about how it’s gonna be another M14 blunder
@bradenmchenry995
@bradenmchenry995 2 года назад
Don’t listen to boomers
@blackhawk65589
@blackhawk65589 2 года назад
@@bradenmchenry995 flashbacks to 6.8 grendell
@Valorius
@Valorius 2 года назад
This will ultimately make the m14 look like a brilliant design in the long run.
@AnarchAngel1
@AnarchAngel1 2 года назад
@@blackhawk65589 6.8 SPC? Not aware of any 6.8 "Grendel" the military has looked into
@thekraken1173
@thekraken1173 2 года назад
It wont
@Thedrlipa
@Thedrlipa 6 месяцев назад
RU-vid recommended me this video because i play tarkov and love the SIG spear
@NanashisJustBetter
@NanashisJustBetter 5 месяцев назад
I was looking for this comment
@seancallaway5204
@seancallaway5204 Год назад
Regarding training issues, look how long it took the US Army to fully adopt the M-4. Even today, most POG units still have the M-16. Even if the SIG SPEAR does become the "new" Army rifle, it will take years after that for Joes in S-1 to get them in-hand.
@collins4984
@collins4984 Год назад
The 101st is getting them this month. My brigade is getting both the XM5 and the XM250
@ponraul1221
@ponraul1221 Год назад
@@collins4984 good luck with your 12lb rifles and greatly reduced combat loads
@collins4984
@collins4984 Год назад
@@MandatedCupcake Well when we get back from this deployment we are spending 2 weeks on the ranges to qualify on these new weapon systems. Shouldn’t be too different from the M-4 and the 249. Only difference is the weight and they both take a different caliber round so it’s more accurate and effective than the 556 NATO rounds we use. We will see though, I can’t imagine it be that much different to be honest
@voskhodd
@voskhodd Год назад
It is initially to be adopted by 20-25% of the armed forces personnel, mostly the combat units. Everyone else will stay with ye olde M4s for the time being.
@jamesgarrison5546
@jamesgarrison5546 Год назад
@@ponraul1221 theyre the same weight as an M27 IAR
@pilgrim357
@pilgrim357 2 года назад
What an awesome preview of a future episode of forgotten weapons! Thank you US army! Very cool!
@RollerCoasterLineProductions
@RollerCoasterLineProductions 2 года назад
BASED
@bappyboio1361
@bappyboio1361 2 года назад
Fake, not French enough Ian would never review
@soulessvalleys8404
@soulessvalleys8404 2 года назад
Based AF🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kju520
@kju520 2 года назад
Gonna be better than the current standard issue, m4 troons seething.
@lowtdave
@lowtdave 2 года назад
Damnit. This made me laugh. It's a tragic possibility
@IdeaCalledFreedom
@IdeaCalledFreedom 2 года назад
Easily the most highly anticipated video of all time. This should have been in theaters
@21scavage
@21scavage 2 года назад
Finally! It is here!
@spearthumb68
@spearthumb68 2 года назад
I am everywhere around you. Do you not feel my *Fury* ?
@deadboltzz5199
@deadboltzz5199 2 года назад
The taliban wants to know when they will be getting these
@spearthumb68
@spearthumb68 2 года назад
@@deadboltzz5199 I will automatically disable myself if I detect the presence of a heathen operator.
@jbloun911
@jbloun911 2 года назад
@@deadboltzz5199 Taliban is just civilian talk to AL-CIA-DUH
@Daja_Vu1986
@Daja_Vu1986 Год назад
Can't say enough good about your reviews bro. You are definitely a person I would base my purchase options from. Solid review
@jaredcate8508
@jaredcate8508 Год назад
Great rifle. I agree with your findings as a main battle rifle. Now in my 20 years as infantry (now retired), I think that would be an awesome SDM (Squad Designated Marksman) rifle. It is lighter than the souped up M-14 they had us using for years that weighed over 14 lbs. Throw a 3-9×40 or a 4-16×50 on it and you have a great longer range weapon while still keeping that armor piercing capability within the infantry rifle squad. Just my opinion.
@SergioHernandez-zv5wc
@SergioHernandez-zv5wc Год назад
We have the m110 which is basically an updated sr-25. This will be helpful against A proper military, yet you know and even I know with only my 4yrs in as of right now that it won’t just be proper military. We will still have to fight an insurgency
@Painfulwhale360
@Painfulwhale360 11 месяцев назад
Idk about using this as an SDM.. it has a 13.5” barrel
@MrCashewkitty
@MrCashewkitty 7 месяцев назад
​@@Painfulwhale360 but even the non military version of the round is getting 2800 ft/s. Wonder what it's ballistics look like out of 16 and 18?
@taelandi
@taelandi 6 месяцев назад
Seems the military is going towards special forces style combat on a mass scale using intelligence as the first line of offense with the F35B's in the air, a more surgical approach rather than the suppressive fire style of old. If you know where the enemy already is and aren't walking into the unknown then the more accurate, powerful rifles will serve better. If you're just a group of soldiers without the intel and surveillance then you'll definitely want more ammo
@syricsjr08
@syricsjr08 2 года назад
Previously on GT: “plate carriers are more common place now, here's how to set yours up" GT now: "Why would the government switch to an AP round with less overall ammo?" Coincidence? I think not
@RusskiyMed
@RusskiyMed 2 года назад
Because they might use against its own citizens to enforce a mass disarmament of lawful abiding citizens.
@TheAnonymous111111
@TheAnonymous111111 2 года назад
Head, shoulders, knees and toes bro
@Dante_S550_Turbo
@Dante_S550_Turbo 2 года назад
@@TheAnonymous111111 we're just gonna add velcro to everything and strap up mags everywhere. careful not to get ammo racked as a walking tank XD
@sigspearthumb8856
@sigspearthumb8856 2 года назад
@@TheAnonymous111111 what is that referencing lol
@bn-tc2tk
@bn-tc2tk 2 года назад
@@sigspearthumb8856 soft points of armor
@Warbalz
@Warbalz 6 месяцев назад
Glad that i was able to try SIG Spear out.. its a great badass weapon, bit hard to get, but the marked rooms in Reserve usually have one, it rips PMCs and bosses aswell! Tarkov finally has a new king!
@adirondackbackcountry5497
@adirondackbackcountry5497 Год назад
Thank you for the video. Waiting for a while to see it being used.
@BIOHAZARDCURE
@BIOHAZARDCURE 2 года назад
The fact that this rifle reaches 2800+ fps out of a 13 inch barrel is pretty amazing. Also really dig the color!
@josedorsaith5261
@josedorsaith5261 2 года назад
Shame the trade-off for that velocity is extreme pressures. I wonder if the new round will have ERP projectiles, like the ones used in the m855a1 and 7.62x51mm
@lukedrewry2816
@lukedrewry2816 2 года назад
@@josedorsaith5261 the barrel is very thick in comparison to normal ar 10s along with other thicker components, should do just fine
@jeffkenkel4257
@jeffkenkel4257 2 года назад
The Military rounds velocity is still classified but it is more likely 3100+ fps from the 13 inch barrel.
@lukedrewry2816
@lukedrewry2816 2 года назад
@@jeffkenkel4257 really? Damn
@BaddFrogg777
@BaddFrogg777 2 года назад
SIG spent a lot of R&D on these firearms. Time for the US consumer to purchase. Create jobs.
@KGBBooks
@KGBBooks 2 года назад
If history is any guide, in America’s next war the soldiers will be like, “Wow, this rifle sucks in these conditions. We got any of those old M4s in storage somewhere?”
@willw8011
@willw8011 2 года назад
That and the Krauts will refuse to sell parts and new rifles, because they would rather lick whatever dictators' toes for a few euros. The US Military should become independent of foreign companies and foreign designed/ made weapons.
@budisutanto5987
@budisutanto5987 2 года назад
😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
@uploadstuff1762
@uploadstuff1762 2 года назад
honestly even if the rifle turns out to be successful you are correct about what a shit-show new weapon system rollouts usually are. look up the debut of the Bradley
@martyc1533
@martyc1533 2 года назад
More likely “Wow, this rifle sucks in these conditions. We got any of those old M14's in storage somewhere?”
@deriznohappehquite
@deriznohappehquite 2 года назад
@@martyc1533 This rifle is basically a better M14.
@gooner72
@gooner72 Год назад
Another fantastic video lads...... absolutely brilliant channel, I love it!!
@codyfeatherstone731
@codyfeatherstone731 Год назад
I can’t wait to learn more about this weapon. I might be interested in this one for sure!
@Jknight416
@Jknight416 2 года назад
I’m honestly impressed that he managed to control this gun in full auto mode so well that he makes it look as if the gun has the recoil of a 5.56. I suppose that all his experience in firearms training has paid off!
@johnmartin6420
@johnmartin6420 2 года назад
@@meta55645 Or more Likely, it's the "Recoil Mitigation System And Smuzzle Can", that reduces the felt Recoil of the weapon.
@iketerrible6661
@iketerrible6661 2 года назад
Bruh he was spec ops what did you expect
@GEOsustainable
@GEOsustainable 2 года назад
You never fired one? My DS showed us how soft the M-16 was by holding it on his groin while he pulled full auto. The recoil spring looks the same length as the original M-16 so I expect it to be smooth as butter.
@GEOsustainable
@GEOsustainable 2 года назад
@@meta55645 You never fired one? My DS showed us how soft the M-16 was by holding it on his groin while he pulled full auto. The recoil spring looks the same length as the original M-16 so I expect it to be smooth as butter.
@GEOsustainable
@GEOsustainable 2 года назад
@@johnmartin6420 Is that what they call the recoil spring now? jeez, lol. You never fired one? My DS showed us how soft the M-16 was by holding it on his groin while he pulled full auto. The recoil spring looks the same length as the original M-16 so I expect it to be smooth as butter.
@hotrodsather
@hotrodsather 2 года назад
Well, the need for a more powerful longer range round was apparent immediately in Afghanistan, now, 21 years later, after we left Afghanistan, we have it(Yet to be phased in). Great success!!!
@smudge7057
@smudge7057 2 года назад
Why not just have more weapons in 7.62x51 issued to units to support the 5.56 weapons?
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy 2 года назад
@@smudge7057 Army planners are afraid that ballistic protection already exists within Russia and China that makes the very best 7.62 AP rounds useless, so they want something moving faster and with more energy to be able to defeat it.
@ODAWGO22
@ODAWGO22 2 года назад
This is exactly what I was thinking lmao
@ryanpeck3377
@ryanpeck3377 2 года назад
The Army is known for “fighting the last war”. While in some ways taking lessons learned and applying them can be good the Army often comes to the wrong conclusions and/or the lesson learned dont apply to the next conflict.
@cataclysmicdelta1828
@cataclysmicdelta1828 2 года назад
@@smudge7057 because they also approved a sig sauer replacement for the m249 saw (the xm250) also chambered in 6.8mm, having the ammo standardization helps a ton and it has better ballistics and penetration than 7.62 anyways. The xm5 is absolutely not designed for the last war, it’s designed for any future large brigade combat instead of the lightly equipped guerrilla forces we’ve been fighting. The gun also really shouldn’t be discussed in a military context without mentioning the special fire control system/sight that will be equipped on every single one
@GetOnWithIt_275
@GetOnWithIt_275 Месяц назад
Binge watching your videos is a guilty pleasure of mine. You guys do a very nice job with the production. 0:48 to 0:60 the quick snap movements, suppressing a large sector alone... into the mag change at the end gave me all 2 inches my friend! I thought it displayed the versatility of this rifle well in a possible defensive posture. Looking forward to seeing the kinks worked out and getting her streamlined. $4500?!? OUCH Loved the M1A video as well, keep up the good work boys 🤟
@francishubertovasquez956
@francishubertovasquez956 Год назад
The SIG Spear is an amazing weapon machine fitted in rugged environment and fitted to special forces due to the suppressor.
@thomasprout9298
@thomasprout9298 2 года назад
I feel like the charging handle issue is something that will phase out in due time as more soldiers get a hold of the rifle and find which they prefer and they pick one and stick with it.
@ellysiakyoki5587
@ellysiakyoki5587 2 года назад
The introduction of the side charger was for when having issues getting the bolt unstuck as to the T handle having little leverage and possibly having to mortar it. The reason for having the T handle is training/habits, so I would guess if they did remove one it would be the T handle but it too has a small benefit of being ambi. My thoughts though would be they just keep it cause getting changes done in military equipment is a lot of processing.
@BionicBurke
@BionicBurke 2 года назад
@@ellysiakyoki5587 when you explain the reasoning for it, it makes a lot more sense to have both. The ambi use of it is a plus and I don't think they could remodel this to have an ambi side charger. Also, the side charger being mainly for dealing with malfunctions that the T handle just can't really handle makes sense for long and dirty deployments.
@ellysiakyoki5587
@ellysiakyoki5587 2 года назад
@@BionicBurke Yes I agree, the T handle has been in the training regiment for years and the ambi option gives more benefits than just for a lefty, it gives the soldier easier access if he/she has injured their arm or hand. Could also think of it like if you're in a position where you wouldn't be able to have access to the side charger. Even though the side charger handle folds in a bit the T handle is a little less protruding to have possible snags too. In the end I think its only an advantage in clearing stuck cartridges but that was the intent so it works 🤷‍♀️ Very excited to see more vids of it though, I like it a lot.
@leroyatleroys
@leroyatleroys 2 года назад
I understand the benefits of both. But considering how beefy the rifle is already, I wish they just picked one to save some. weight. I know that there is gonna ne some guy saying "Just suck it up. Soldiers are supposed to be strong." Those dudes never seem to understand that it just helps the military in general in the long run. Ounces equal pounds. But my first thought was also that one of the charging handles would be deleted eventually.
@ellysiakyoki5587
@ellysiakyoki5587 2 года назад
@@leroyatleroys having the T handle kinda does reduce the weight because if it was only the side charger then all that material that's removed where the T handle is would actually add weight. The T handle itself is nearly weightless. I understand your input but charging handles are usually a weight loss positive with the area of material removal compared to the handles weight itself.
@w_stew8912
@w_stew8912 2 года назад
I figured 6.8 would be pretty hard to handle on full auto but GT seems to do alright with it.
@Oob144
@Oob144 2 года назад
​@@ASS_ault waaay more than that my friend.
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 2 года назад
Hes not exactly a basic grunt, dude. Your weapon has to be optimally effective for least trained and experienced.
@MadJustin7
@MadJustin7 2 года назад
@@springbloom5940 Exactly. I want to see a female or smaller framed male soldier shoot it.
@julian23561
@julian23561 2 года назад
He can handle 7.62 just fine, 6.8 should be alright.
@Ntmoffi
@Ntmoffi 2 года назад
He's shooting the underpowered non steel base ammo so it's easier to manage.
@nanosolis96
@nanosolis96 Год назад
The XM5 has been renamed to the XM7 due to avoiding Trademark Issues with Colt’s Manufacturer LLC from the M5 Carbine
@kindsteel5
@kindsteel5 7 месяцев назад
That’s Bullshit they should’ve made Colt change it. I will still call it the XM5
@trickytiky7329
@trickytiky7329 Год назад
Looks like you had way to much fun filming that sick intro, great vid.
@tobiasj.4199
@tobiasj.4199 2 года назад
9:38 "She is a thick boy" A modern rifle indeed
@KC_Smooth
@KC_Smooth 2 года назад
I was all excited like “Damn he’s handling that reportedly high recoil very well!”, then he said he wasn’t using the higher pressure 227’s 😭.
@lastdayonearth8381
@lastdayonearth8381 2 года назад
The Department Of Defense Should Be Ashamed.
@peasantjeff4731
@peasantjeff4731 2 года назад
I was watching MAC the other day and they said they wouldn’t be surprised if they nerf the round to GT’s pressure or even re-chamber this into regular 7.62x51 NATO, and I completely agree.
@Grinchlip
@Grinchlip 2 года назад
@@peasantjeff4731 doing either of those things invalidates the entire rationale for this rifle and caliber. They'll do neither.
@evildrizzt1
@evildrizzt1 2 года назад
@@Grinchlip They will. Once they realize that the recoil makes the hit to miss ratio weird.
@firewalker6712
@firewalker6712 2 года назад
He's not the average shooter. Look at other people shooting it. It's throwing them around.
@alonsogarcia7064
@alonsogarcia7064 Год назад
Such a badass intro 🔥battle of the universe such a good sound track
@SwitchFBproductions
@SwitchFBproductions Год назад
Great Video!
@paulwilson8672
@paulwilson8672 2 года назад
One thing that everyone forgets is that when the military was using the M14, and during Vietnam using the M16A1, we didn't have the M249 or now the M250. These are fire team level fully automatic weapons. In a fire team (in the Marine Corps) you have fully automatic gunner (M250), an assistant gunner (M5 simi-auto), a rifleman (M5 semi-auto), and the fire team leader and grenadier (M5 and/or grenade launcher). Only one person is to have their weapon on full auto. The M4 only has a burst of three rounds, (recently switched to full auto). In any case you're not suppose to put it on those settings (burst of full auto) except when being over ran. You will always be more effective with semi-auto except at very close range (trench fighting). So the concern about full auto on the M5 is valid to a small point. What you did miss is the additional 2 lbs for optics. Now how that new optic will help or hinder people will be found out once it gets deployed. Most new weapon systems don't survive first deployments as is. A private can break anything!!! Even unbreakable items. Where there is a will there is a way. Murphy's Law is alive and well. In my day we only used iron sights. When the Marine Corps switched to the ACOG all of us old Corps didn't trust it. Yet the Corps went on faith (and 2 years of field testing) to use the ACOG. Once the Marines were being accused of war crimes because of all the head shots they were getting, caused us old Corps to change our opinions. We will need to take another leap of faith on this. Great review!!!
@michaelfarinola5044
@michaelfarinola5044 2 года назад
Well said.
@matteocesa9017
@matteocesa9017 2 года назад
The problem of being able to carry less rounds still stands tho, and its not a small one; you cant suppress much(even with a SAW) if your squad is out of ammo. On the other hand you need the round to be lethal enough, otherwise it doesnt matter how many you can carry, both concerns are valid. Polymer cased ammo seemed a good way to mitigate the issue of weight to some extent, and imo was the truly meaningful innovation of the program, its a shame they didnt give it a chance, but perharps it was too big a leap. The rifle itself seems to be a modernized scarH with a spicier load, a bit underwelming. I'd love to shoot them side by side, maybe it would change my mind
@hefeibao
@hefeibao 2 года назад
The kids are too young to remember - totally agree with you.
@paulwilson8672
@paulwilson8672 2 года назад
@@matteocesa9017 Fair. You are 8-10 less per mag. The belts will still be 100 rounds. I think the idea is that you will have a more accurate weapon (new optics) and more lethal (better penetration), and require less rounds to inflect damage (guessing). It is a leap of faith in any direction you go. In WWII we only had 8 rounds and the Garand ping that the Germans listened for. I think the recoil is more manageable than than the M14 or what we are imagining. We need to field it and break it and then we will know and can fix it.
@paulwilson8672
@paulwilson8672 2 года назад
@@hefeibao LOL!!!
@UnKnown-bu3hw
@UnKnown-bu3hw 2 года назад
The fact that the optic let's you ping positions with your squad is mind blowing 🤯
@btglass60
@btglass60 2 года назад
That is going to be majorly deadly
@rayallen9166
@rayallen9166 2 года назад
First thing that someone is going to do is draw a dick with the ping marks
@tylerwalsh7310
@tylerwalsh7310 2 года назад
And now consider the disadvantages to pinging
@tenchraven
@tenchraven 2 года назад
And while it is a "short range" RF signal, it still means a signature that can be detected intermittently for 40,000 feet due up. When you have a dozen or more of them, you give them a free gift- airstrike, artillery, whatever the flavor of the day is.
@Drownedinblood
@Drownedinblood 2 года назад
@@btglass60 there's going to be pings from everyone..
@wooddawg4868
@wooddawg4868 Год назад
The good thing with this caliber and ammo is they can also shoot the non stainless case ammo if the hot stuff isn’t available.
@theimmortal4718
@theimmortal4718 Год назад
Yet, brass 7.62 is faster from the same length barrel. It would be better to get it in 7.62 if you're not going to use hybrid ammo
@TheGamingHellhound
@TheGamingHellhound Год назад
@@theimmortal4718 it’s not in 7.62
@theimmortal4718
@theimmortal4718 Год назад
@@TheGamingHellhound Yes, it's in 6.8x51, which is slower than 7.62 from an all brass case.
@RB-xv4si
@RB-xv4si Год назад
@@theimmortal4718 as he clearly stated in the video multiple times, he wasn’t shooting the real-deal 80k psi .227 Sig Fury ammo. The real stuff leaves the barrel at over 3k fps, which for sure is faster than almost all .308 loads, and retains more of its velocity than .308’s at longer distances.
@theimmortal4718
@theimmortal4718 Год назад
@@RB-xv4si I'm well aware of that. Look at the barrel wear and destruction that 62k PSI m855A1 does to barrels, locking lugs, and feed ramps. The 80K PSI 6.8 will be even worse. The 264 USA is a superior bullet and doesn't have the excessive pressure. It's lighter, top.
@martingonzales1131
@martingonzales1131 Год назад
I think the rear charging handle is a way to not have to deal with retraining every soldier to use the side charge but no doubt it will eventually be fazed out while the boot camp training changes to favor and teach all new recruits to use the side charge.
@blacknapalm2131
@blacknapalm2131 2 года назад
*SIG should have hired you for their promo materials. You are the only one I have seen that can handle the recoil effortlessly*
@apple_with_a_human_butt
@apple_with_a_human_butt 2 года назад
keep in mind that he's not shooting the mil spec ammo. the mil spec round's a bit hotter than the civilian market version.
@infinitespeen3092
@infinitespeen3092 2 года назад
​@@apple_with_a_human_butt true but he is a marine though.
@jameslarsen5764
@jameslarsen5764 2 года назад
@@infinitespeen3092 Thought he was airforce?
@infinitespeen3092
@infinitespeen3092 2 года назад
@@jameslarsen5764 i just checked this, i guess he is i thought he was a marine whoops lol
@4Leka
@4Leka 2 года назад
What does that say about the recoil and how good of an idea it is to equip every infantryman with this rifle?
@TheKinslayer777
@TheKinslayer777 2 года назад
It seems like it may be a decent rifle, what I would really like to see is someone on the shorter side (or a less experienced shooter) shoot the full power ammo side by side with Garand Thumb. It would provide a good contrast.
@adamho8059
@adamho8059 2 года назад
@Commie Hammer yeahhhh, homie was getting shoved by this thing
@Wonderboy205
@Wonderboy205 2 года назад
@@adamho8059 I think he was using the military ammo where as GT was not.
@adamho8059
@adamho8059 2 года назад
@@Wonderboy205 makes sense, but I’m not sure that’s a good thing. I’d imagine that your average soldier would be less experienced that either of these guys and would get pushed around just as much
@FinalLugiaGuardian
@FinalLugiaGuardian 2 года назад
How tall is Garand thumb exactly?
@yeahnahyeah4113
@yeahnahyeah4113 2 года назад
Honestly how is the new woke transformer, bundle of sticks, Female Dominated US military ment to operate this weapon and use it to the full extent of its capability
@davidwaynemain
@davidwaynemain Год назад
Your intro music is somethin else Mr. Thumb. Thumbs up Thumbs!!
@gassedupsubuwu
@gassedupsubuwu 8 месяцев назад
That AR T-handle is one of the things that pushed me to the AK first. Recent developments in aftermarket ARs has brought me back to the middle ground though, in particular the MCX and other AR-18/180 derivatives
@TheBrigandBob
@TheBrigandBob 2 года назад
GT out here showing us why training is important. Recoil control is hands down THE BEST I have seen on this weapon. Watching literally everyone else shoot it, you would think it's an unweildy weapon that can't be used. Shows you how much people need to spend more time training and less time filming.
@chrisclark6161
@chrisclark6161 2 года назад
To be fair, he outright says he's using a lower pressure round. Given the full brass case and the specs from other civ spec 6.8 he's probably shooting a round that's around 20,000-30,000 psi lower than mil spec
@michaelschwab9563
@michaelschwab9563 2 года назад
You just described what I see in the range weekly. People's recoil management/stance/control is Awful.
@Sylique
@Sylique 2 года назад
I second this!
@TheBrigandBob
@TheBrigandBob 2 года назад
@@chrisclark6161 also fair. Would like to see him slinging some full pressure rounds. I have a suspicion that he manages the recoil with similar results. He's also the first person I've seen running a BCM foregrip (reversed) on that weapon and running a proper C-clamp on it. But you're right, full pressure rounds would be nice to see. Maybe in a few years when they're actually available.
@Tusk-ruk
@Tusk-ruk 2 года назад
He clearly states that he is not firing the high-pressure military round in the montage, so the excellent recoil management he demonstrates is not representative and can't be compared to the footage of the actual round other sources have provided. We'll have to wait to get a fair comparison ground.
@tomdog5265
@tomdog5265 Год назад
The MCX Mk2, the Virtus, is a fantastic rifle in both 5.56 and .300 blackout, even though it is a bit heavy. I think this Spear is the result of that Sig design, isn't it?
@jmanswat2457
@jmanswat2457 6 месяцев назад
I really wished they had adopted 300blk when it was developed. Replace 556 and keep 308 for DMRs. Would've been financially economical too since all they have to change is a barrel, or for really quick change, an upper. Absolute minimal change to current "systems" and familiarity. But... They wanted a better BC bullet so here's we go...
@taelandi
@taelandi 6 месяцев назад
@@jmanswat2457 how is 300blk a better cartridge? It has less range than 5.56
@w_hughw_hugh
@w_hughw_hugh Год назад
Love your work men ❤
@sierratango1222
@sierratango1222 2 года назад
My 2 cent is this: yes the Army as adopted this rifle, and it seems to be a great rifle; but like GT said in the video, this is aimed toward the infantry units, direct action units (SF, 75th, etc.). As for the rest of the Army, Reserves and Guards included, the M4s will stay around for a long, long time. Now infantry platoons in the 82nd, 101st, 10th Mountain, etc., will probably get outfitted with the Spear rifles and MGs in the next 3 to 5 years. But for the rest of us POGs, it'll be DECADES before we even see this; especially if you're Reserves or Guards. Heck, my current arms room still have tons of M16A2s and M9s and those are still being used. Would I like to have this rifle for myself, absolutely! But as a Medical POG, the M4 and M18 are plenty for me.
@Liam-ly8rv
@Liam-ly8rv 2 года назад
The major issue with that will be the ammunition difference if the US military is involved in a major conflict that requires activation of those Guards or Reserve units.
@evannmason6376
@evannmason6376 2 года назад
You’re correct that POGs in the part time service don’t need it haha
@replynotificationsdisabled
@replynotificationsdisabled 2 года назад
I doubt SF guard will have to wait, but you know everything it seems.
@mainnerd2222
@mainnerd2222 2 года назад
@@evannmason6376, I was a Combat Engineer in the reserves before I went active. Served a tour in Afghanistan with them, cleared routes of IEDs, saw a lot of combat, slept in the same grime and hell hole, etc. We used all the same gear and weapons the rest of the Army did. It would be stupid not to get the reserves and guard the same equipment and trained on it, especially if you have to go to war with a major power like Russia or China and you need the bodies from the reserves and guard.
@CrowBag
@CrowBag 2 года назад
Im still jealous of you yanks with all your pretty toys.
@50megatondiplomat28
@50megatondiplomat28 2 года назад
Supposedly, this weapon isn't complete without the "fire control system", which allegedly will negate some of the "problems you foresee". I'm skeptical, but I assume there are many professionals who have already tested the system and agree that the concept functions and provides us a significant overmatch. If all of that is true, and they are able to train the average troop to take advantage of all that overmatch, then I'm all for it.
@JohnSmith-yx8kf
@JohnSmith-yx8kf 2 года назад
Yeah to me that looks like just more complication that the average soldier has to deal with. I've heard military dudes talk about how hard it is just getting average guys to understand how to use the BDC in an ACOG. If it all works it'll be awesome, but i just don't see the average soldier using it to its potential, and it has a lot of stuff to go wrong compared to something like an ACOG. Hope i'm wrong, because in a vacuum the technology looks amazing.
@kxkxkxkx
@kxkxkxkx 2 года назад
Yeah I'm sure a bunch of woke female truck drivers can handle a 12 pound rifle just fine 😂😂😂
@brianmanning9271
@brianmanning9271 2 года назад
@Riorozen have you shot this?
@USMCLib3rty
@USMCLib3rty 2 года назад
The average troop has 80IQ mate
@gregbagel791
@gregbagel791 2 года назад
“If it works then I like it” basically what you said dude, way to make a very decisive argument…
@luxivity
@luxivity 5 месяцев назад
so this why its going for 690k on the flea
@TheFunkhouser
@TheFunkhouser Год назад
Looks badass AF! and finally a larger round than the 5.56! This is a good thing! Dont forget we going to use the XM250 bad-boy. Theres your cover fire!
@AiAngel
@AiAngel 2 года назад
I think the army is going to use DARPA quadrupeds to mule ammo around for each battalion, which is one reason for the bulkier ammo.
@robertkeaney9905
@robertkeaney9905 2 года назад
Instead of doing that. The army will rely on the same beast of burden they've used for generations. The U.S. Infantryman.
@Truthbomb918
@Truthbomb918 2 года назад
No they aren't, soldiers will always be mules
@clamum9648
@clamum9648 2 года назад
@@Truthbomb918 I don't think you're looking far enough ahead. Those quadrupeds will absolutely be used.
@highlandhunter7960
@highlandhunter7960 2 года назад
More likey they will arm these bots and use them like they do with drones right now.
@clamum9648
@clamum9648 2 года назад
@Commie Hammer LOL yeah they are
@Technotranceism
@Technotranceism 2 года назад
Between the scar and this rifle, I like the fact that most of the functionality of the old m4 still remains visible, probably to make soldiers more able to adapt!
@mrdark9916
@mrdark9916 Год назад
No way bro... Lol
@Technie87
@Technie87 Год назад
Personally I don't understand this ammo OR gun. Since they are still using AR-10 magazines, it seems redundant making an entire new round for "armor piercing" abilities when you can modernize the 7.62x51mm and push more pressure out of it(or just use the same 7.62); no need to reinvent the wheel. The Ruger SFAR did an amazing job keeping the AR-15 chassis with a .308 chambering. Its capable of a 30 round magazine while keeping the same layout that everyone knows. Fits the "keep it simple" assessment AND it would have saved MILLIONS of dollars in contracts that are now going towards a gun manufacturer and not some other government project, or civilian project.
@McTrollenstein
@McTrollenstein Год назад
@@Technie87 He said why. It's to carry more rounds.
@weeboftheleft5113
@weeboftheleft5113 Год назад
@@Technie87 Because this ammo is more effective then the 7.62x51mm, on top of being lighter weight and allowing you to carry more of it effectively. Also, the idea of 'don't reinvent the wheel' doesn't really work with Ammo in the modern age. Every military is on the hunt for the new future round for their military processes. The same way we developed 5.56 post WW2 and the USSR came up with the 5.45 in the same time frame.
@Technie87
@Technie87 Год назад
@@weeboftheleft5113 Well its more effective on papierre.
@folftasticgaming7491
@folftasticgaming7491 Год назад
Take a look at this barrel "she's a thick thick boy" Love the videos mate. But had to poke fun at ya for the blunder, gave me a great laugh
@user-om5se9eh4j
@user-om5se9eh4j Год назад
The spear is a cool gun plain and simple, love your videos garand thumb
@sandmanlxv
@sandmanlxv 2 года назад
I’ve seen a lot of controversy surrounding this rifle but to me, it makes sense. Regarding your point about volume of fire winning firefights, and not being able to carry as much 6.8 vs 5.56; my own experience tells me this isn’t going to be as much of an issue as we might expect. very recently we (British Army) have been moving away from the philosophy of filling every square inch of an enemies space with hot lead. We phased out our FN Minimi’s and instead of having an LMG gunner per section, we now have a 7.62 sharpshooter in every section instead. Filling much the same role as intended by your new Sig rifle. I think most modern western forces are going to go through this “evolution” in tactics. We learn from every conflict, we’re not totally regressing back to the Cold War era mentality, and carrying large powerful rifle cartridges, but we understand the limitations of our current ammunition technology. I don’t know if I’ve articulated myself particularly well, but the new Sig and it’s ammunition makes sense to me.
@Dim2134
@Dim2134 2 года назад
Still can't deny the appeal of lead hoses. Something enticing about the idea no?
@elshootiboi1861
@elshootiboi1861 2 года назад
For the kind of war we faced in Afghanistan that combat philosophy works. But in a near peer war, I'm not convinced that volume of fire has taken the back seat. The war in Ukraine will be the big study on what does/doesn't work at the end of the day for near peer fighting though.
@ShimmeringSword
@ShimmeringSword 2 года назад
​@@Dim2134 I think the idea is if you're gonna hose, have it come from a gunner trained in that role with an appropriate weapon. Having the entire squad emptying their mags into the air drains everyone. Make at least half your composition use the Spear and now the enemy knows they're peeking into a wall of essentially DMRs. Psychological suppression. In the cold war those big battle rifles were using irons, not delivering the same precision we can now. They weren't giving up as much as we are now by focusing on suppressive fire.
@Dim2134
@Dim2134 2 года назад
@@ShimmeringSword No, I get the idea of the doctrine. It's just that there's still a lot of theory involved and us in the chairs, at least myself in the chair for what I know, I can only weigh things from a position of safety so I don't know. We won't really know until it's tested and money is put where our mouth's are you know? Still I kind of understand what you're getting at and I get the arguments for both sides but frankly we don't know how doctrine or even how the troops will evolve tactics to support these weapons yet since... doctrine is only useful if it works you know?
@manictiger
@manictiger 2 года назад
@@ShimmeringSword They wouldn't be peeking out. Mirrors have been around for longer than guns.
@scottdickson9224
@scottdickson9224 2 года назад
18:25 For what it's worth, for my line infantry company in 2008/2011 we honestly shot somewhere between 250 to 400 live rounds through our rifles in a calendar year. It was a bit of a joke how little we shot "to maintain proficiency". Gearing up for deployment it'd be closer to 200 or 300 a month, but still. Everything else was blanks with BFDs. Very OSUT-esque. Mileage may vary of course. My unit was probably trash, too. Just figured I'd throw this in there.
@devinmansanarez3260
@devinmansanarez3260 2 года назад
Lol i guess some things never change.
@othernamesweretaken1871
@othernamesweretaken1871 2 года назад
That has not changed in my experience.
@LanguagesWithAndrew
@LanguagesWithAndrew 2 года назад
Sounds exactly correct, that's just a tad more than what we were doing in the Marine Corps reserves in 2003-2007ish (I was an 0341). It's one of the main reasons I got out: I was just so disappointed with the training we were getting, I didn't have confidence in my abilities or that of my fellow Marines.
@elgato9534
@elgato9534 2 года назад
So.... we have an all volunteer military. It ain't the Vietnam thing anymore ( GOD BLESS THOSE WHO SERVED) Take it from the USMC. Not much chance of jungle War with Russia or PRC.
@lexluthor8539
@lexluthor8539 2 года назад
In my time with the 101st Airborne as an infantryman from 2014 to 2018 we actually shot a ton of live rounds during training. I would shoot about 300 rounds in one day of training. When I moved up to be a Weapons Squad leader my machine gun teams would put out about 600 rounds or more in a day. We were in the field quite a bit, a lot was shooting blanks but we did shoot a lot of live ammo as well.
@toastysavce.1608
@toastysavce.1608 Год назад
I think my favorite part about these videos is the beginning montage/edit
@davidh7799
@davidh7799 Год назад
I was in the Marine Corps when they promoted the 223 round. After over 50 years, they are going back to the bigger round. Crazy.
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 7 месяцев назад
Crazier than that. This is a .277 or so in a necked down .308 cartridge. Mr. Garand originally designed the M1 Garand in a new …. .277 round! But General MacArthur said we had millions of rounds of .30-06 in storage and ordered it changed to .30-06. So it’s more like a hundred years.
@Joek9100
@Joek9100 6 месяцев назад
Gotta keep the funding coming in.
@Spushed
@Spushed 2 года назад
If you swap out the operator foregrip for the ranger foregrip you'd reduce vertical and horizontal recoil by 12% only at a cost of 10% reduced ADS movement speed...
@jonahjones5736
@jonahjones5736 2 года назад
Rangers are operators also what is a ranger grip or operator grip?
@user-ob6gc3io6i
@user-ob6gc3io6i 2 года назад
@@jonahjones5736 it's just a video game joke, like Call of Duty and that stuff.
@USMCLib3rty
@USMCLib3rty 2 года назад
@@jonahjones5736 boomer….
@TheChadavis33
@TheChadavis33 2 года назад
Ha!
@redcell9636
@redcell9636 2 года назад
or you could use RKP zenitco grip and get that massive ergo boost. (head, eyes) for days.
@posgarden8828
@posgarden8828 2 года назад
They have both charging handles so when the stock is folded over you can still load and clear without having to extend the stock.
@dgtldead
@dgtldead 2 года назад
Not to mention it has an easier adoption. I don't understand why having more options without increasing complexity is a bad thing. The experienced can use what they want, and the newly trained can adopt either/or. For me, its like saying ambidextrous controls are a bad thing.
@Natedoc808
@Natedoc808 2 года назад
I much prefer a non-reciprocating left side charging rifle vs the AR style as you can charge the weapon without unshoukdering the weapon or losing sight picture... although this mainly becomes an issue with a malfunction as hot weapon on safe is the way to roll
@wtice4632
@wtice4632 2 года назад
@@dgtldead but it does increase the complexity and dirt ingress points. This thing sucks
@dgtldead
@dgtldead 2 года назад
@@wtice4632 I meant in regards to manufacturing. The rear charging handle and side charging handle can effectively be activated from the same point, only adding a contact point. I'm sure there's more to it, but in the overall sense, it isn't too complex. In regards to operational complexity, the user just has to get used to operation from a side-mount perspective ie making sure dirt doesn't get in from the side.
@Banefulailment
@Banefulailment 2 года назад
As long as the SAW gunners do their job it shouldn't be an issue
@rjvaughn
@rjvaughn Год назад
Just discovered this LARP channel. Very cool.
@artygeezy80082
@artygeezy80082 Год назад
I’ll be infantry 11b in a few months in Fort Wainwright AK! I might see these by next year! Feeling pretty excited to try out 6.8! Hopefully Sig gets it right for our sake 😅! 🤘🏼🇺🇸
@marktwain2053
@marktwain2053 2 года назад
This could be good in a "Tier" system, being issued to troops depending on what type of terrain they're operating in. It would be great in desert or mountains, but in jungles, you would run into the same problems we had in Vietnam with the M14. I guess it will do until we can make a Plasma Rifle in the 40 Watt Range!
@salvadorbuschittari6870
@salvadorbuschittari6870 2 года назад
In the end having more specialized divisions looks like the way to go
@stevenmike1878
@stevenmike1878 2 года назад
it might be closer to the 1918 Bar or m1 garand in the ww2 pacific jungles/korea thru Vietnam which have a great track record. both the m14 - m16 failed the Vietnam reliability test. so the m14 isn't a reliable representation as it was the rifle design more failing then the cartridge.
@powerbad696
@powerbad696 2 года назад
Mark,has this new weapon been tested in a desert environment ??? That's my main concern for soldiers who may have to fight in the desert again.
@TechnoMinarchist
@TechnoMinarchist 2 года назад
@@powerbad696 No one in the west will be fighting in the desert for at least the next 50 years. And if we do, it'll be in Western China.
@powerbad696
@powerbad696 2 года назад
@@TechnoMinarchist You mean,you hope we don't !!! Things are subject to change.The new army is marsh-mellow SOFT.And when the army first started fighting in Iraq they were a hot mess !!! LOL. No up-armored vehicles,trying to turn non-combat arms into doing convy escorts,combat patrols. Soldiers who didn't know enough to clean their weapons,to points the weapons wouldn't fire !!! Ncos & officers didn't know how to read a map !!! In 2004,a 4 star general was on tv saying his troops didn't have AMMO and were going thru garbage to find something to use as armor for their vehicles.
@gregbagel791
@gregbagel791 2 года назад
I love this gun because it’s everything annoying AR guys hate, it keeps the forward assist, it’s a larger caliber, it’s short stroke piston system, and it has a side charging handle. Also the pseudo monolithic upper is super cool.
@bigt9745
@bigt9745 2 года назад
Haha yes, AR guys cope hard
@brianrich7828
@brianrich7828 2 года назад
Not sure why they would hate it. But cliques seem to be in literally every hobby out there,so weird on either side to me. A rifle is a rifle.
@TheGM-20XX
@TheGM-20XX 2 года назад
@@brianrich7828 it is because he is a contrarian no guns.
@thefrogking481
@thefrogking481 2 года назад
Yeah! We all know a Russian designed rifle from 1947 is the only way to go.....
@dick8997
@dick8997 2 года назад
Ohh the sig does have the forward assist still didn't even notice until u said that interesting
@warrens.5933
@warrens.5933 Год назад
OMG the start of this vid goes so hard!!
@jamesmeaders6778
@jamesmeaders6778 Год назад
Very Good Review. I understand the new Sig has a foldable stock so showing the length seemed a bit biased. Also the new scope to be basic issue for this rifle wasn't talked about.
@Divenity
@Divenity 2 года назад
I think it makes a lot of sense as a specialist rifle, for certain people like a Designated Marksman... just use .277 as a replacement for 7.62x51 and keep 5.56 as the standard for the regular infantry.
@brokeandtired
@brokeandtired 2 года назад
Technology has moved on...insurgents are rocking body armour now. Its about post penetration lethality.
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad 2 года назад
I think that’s what is going to happen. The M4 will stay the standard infantry rifle. This will become a DMR and squads will either replace their current DMR setup or they will add this as a supplement.
@LIONTAMER3D
@LIONTAMER3D 2 года назад
the military thinks otherwise & they do war fighting for a living =/
@isaiahgriffin8920
@isaiahgriffin8920 2 года назад
In terms Ww3 or civil war 2 miltary might need everyone in the squad to effectively engage longer distances effectively 😅
@takistanirefugee3079
@takistanirefugee3079 2 года назад
@@LIONTAMER3D No, the brass thought otherwise because they needed to justify their bloated budget
@Ws_minion
@Ws_minion 2 года назад
The XM250 looks great and I think this would be epic as a DMR or an option, like you said, for missions that have the majority of firefights taking place at 400-500 meters but I think the military is going to rediscover the same lessons pretty quickly when their guys are saying that carrying less than half the number of rounds you can carry with a 5.56 just isn't enough. I really don't think the ability to defeat body armour is important enough to offset the round deficit.
@TheUsmc0802
@TheUsmc0802 2 года назад
As someone who has deployed and engaged targets that wouldn’t stop with (1) 556, this concept is relevant. 556 doesn’t put people down past 200m. When my DMRs/Snipers weren’t taking the M39 or M110 I did instead as the stopping power of the 762 projectile far off set the less rounds I took as one round stopped the engagement.
@dprov1877
@dprov1877 2 года назад
Buy the solders a gym membership and the heavier ammo wont be a issue
@trofchik9488
@trofchik9488 2 года назад
It's ability to defeat modern body armor is questionable as well. M14A1 API out of 20" barrel can't penetrate modern Russian plates. 6.8 is overpressured and afaik uses tool steel in it's penetrator but it's shot out of 16" barrel. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ywlf6uaDvjQ.html
@dustinhill330
@dustinhill330 2 года назад
Are they setting up to switch to the polymer case rounds though? I don’t know much about what pressures those can take but certainly helps the weight
@jaypee389
@jaypee389 2 года назад
@@TheUsmc0802 You need a Spear in .375 Fury. 250 Grain at 2600 FPS. 16 inch Barrel. Shoots through buildings like a DShk.
@michaelallen1953
@michaelallen1953 Год назад
The sig spear basically shoots a .270 Winchester short mag. I was asking years ago why the military never entertained .270 rounds. It’s a great balance between Linda range accuracy, power and light recoil.
@fyrdoc
@fyrdoc Год назад
They told us it was mostly because our NATO "partners" only used 5.56, so a European war made getting ammo easier. BUT we found out in Iraq the Brits used less powder, thus throwing our zero and quals out of whack!
@BarisPalabiyik
@BarisPalabiyik Год назад
@@fyrdoc Not having the exact amount and type of powder is crazy if you are aiming for unified ammo in NATO.
@oldleatherhandsfriends4053
@oldleatherhandsfriends4053 Год назад
@@fyrdoc I think NATO is a thing of the past and everyone is preparing to fight one another like pre-WWII.
@KommandantAegis
@KommandantAegis Год назад
@@BarisPalabiyik Always the fucking Brits
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 Год назад
Mr. Garand originally designed his rifle for a new .277 round. General MacArthur said we had huge warehouses full of 30.06 and made Ordinance change it.
@f.wallace8969
@f.wallace8969 Год назад
I think they should make a few divisions worth of them, and keep them in storage. It makes sense to have them. They would be great for long distance environments or near peer countries. The majority of the time however, I think carbine is the way to go.
@DiezALOT3128
@DiezALOT3128 2 года назад
this thing is going to go the way of the M14, frontline service for 5 years then a DMR for 60 years. ARs on Mars.
@user-dq1je7zy3p
@user-dq1je7zy3p 2 года назад
Based on what
@poh1126
@poh1126 2 года назад
Less than 30 seconds gang rise up
@nikanor8152
@nikanor8152 2 года назад
That's what she said
@DontHasselHoff
@DontHasselHoff 2 года назад
I’m here. But I read less than 3 inch
@chenholmes6393
@chenholmes6393 2 года назад
Yes sir
@misc376
@misc376 2 года назад
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@hanshazlitt4535
@hanshazlitt4535 2 года назад
88.2% of people who liked this were, in fact, not here before 30 seconds
@rodneysmith4499
@rodneysmith4499 Год назад
Can definitely use it mountain long range,great assessment btw.
@stevenkraus1679
@stevenkraus1679 Год назад
Just held one at the Sig pro shop. It's very heavy! Literally feels twice as heavy as a military m4 even if it's not technically. I can't see this being standard issue
@poorsoutdoors3595
@poorsoutdoors3595 2 года назад
Not going to lie, I absolutely love your intro's. They're always on point. I have a big crush on all of the MCX's and when I saw this one about a year ago my feelings weren't any different. When I saw you made a video with the Spear I knew the introduction was going to be good and you did not disappoint. That was the best video clip with the Spear yet!
@gob7116
@gob7116 2 года назад
I have a strong feeling that the spear xm5 won’t replace all M4s but will be relegated as the new DMR with that new vortex smart scope. Maybe some riflemans would have it, but likely not all considering the big reduction of fire superiority with less ammo. They’ll still get to be ran with the ngsw xm250 as the saw for ammo compatibility. DOD likely wouldn’t like the logistical nightmare of needing sig proprietary ammo for big army while other branches still use 5.56 with their newly procured HKs and noveskes. I’m guessing there could be a better m855a1 in the future with a beefier chamber on new barrels and perhaps a more robust bolt and bolt carrier group. Especially considering the relatively recent adoption of the urgi and the tango 6t, I’m thinking those m4s will get stretched a bit more. Similar to how 9mm made the millennium caliber .40’s reign so short-lived with ammo developments in view of wanting more capacity. In other news, US Army will soon be called SIG army. Ngsw: spear xm5 Ammo: 6.8 fury of sig Ngsw saw: xm250 6.8 can: sig Full size handgun: m17 Compact handgun: m18 Lpvo: 6t Sig Uniform and humvees next anyone?
@reyvan3806
@reyvan3806 2 года назад
Yeah agree it's self a great candidate for a DMR. With a flatter trajectory than 308 I'm sure more hits will achieved with it in combat. 1 or 2 of these plus 1 or 2 XM250s in a squad and the remainder with AR15 carbines would be a great mix. Add medium velocity 40I'm ammo for grenadiers and you have a squad that rocks from CQB ranges to beyond 600 AND can carry reasonable amounts of ammo.
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 2 года назад
If they can realistically phase out 7.62x51 and replace it with 6.8 NGSW, that might make sense, provided you can maintain barrel life.
@Rensune
@Rensune 2 года назад
It's a great DMR. Just not a regular grunt's weapon.
@mattwalters6834
@mattwalters6834 2 года назад
Probably
@MrHav1k
@MrHav1k 2 года назад
Not only that, but replacing a NATO standard round now when everyone is finally standardized on 5.56 and NATO is more relevant than ever would be.... odd.
@aaronhunter5464
@aaronhunter5464 Год назад
i swear this guy looks so cool shooting any gun
@retardno002
@retardno002 7 месяцев назад
Man that clear mag looks so dope on camera
@JohnDoe-gg6kc
@JohnDoe-gg6kc 2 года назад
Production value of this channel has come so far, amazing work as always
@Guts3570
@Guts3570 2 года назад
i think it's really the evolution of optics that's leading us back to long range accuracy in rifles, because it's going to become very easy for even inexperienced shooters to hit targets at very long distances as the technology progresses. the new optic supposedly lets you automatically zero the optic by pressing a button while aiming it at a target, and that sounds incredible. 20 round magazines in CQB doesn't sound very fun, but i suppose CQB is less of a concern in a near peer conflict than it has been during insurgency conflicts. we'll just have to wait and see how it performs in actual combat.
@adamkhan4451
@adamkhan4451 2 года назад
CQB will be just as big of an issue. That’s not why the round was adopted it was because of body armor. But to defeat body armor you lose a little bit in other places. This one is body armor
@Alex-jf4ui
@Alex-jf4ui 2 года назад
you have a point about CQB. but i disagree. Urban warfare is here to stay. Ukraine has been sucking Russia into prolonged deathtraps in cities for a while now. But I'm not sure the 10 less rounds will make as big of a difference when you hit actually hit people twice as much or if all it takes is one shot to incapacitate.
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 2 года назад
The question is still, is a war against a near-peer opponent pure fantasy or likely to happen? No such war has existed since 1945. War after war has been fought, but none against near-peer opposition. If, by adopting this rifle, all you do is make it ten times more expensive to put a bullet in the stomach of a farmer off his tits on khat and fighting with an antique AK47 (the opponent most likely to be fought against), that is hardly an improvement.
@pvtmalo3217
@pvtmalo3217 2 года назад
You still gotta hit what you see.
@jonwinfield9193
@jonwinfield9193 2 года назад
@@adamkhan4451 XM5 won't even defeat current issue body armor. What are you on about?
@user-kb9tj9kl5o
@user-kb9tj9kl5o 5 месяцев назад
I am literally alone in Virginia but your militant training keep studies more library than ever, I also learned to tame train "mature" dogs only.
@Echoepic95
@Echoepic95 Год назад
You handle that thing like a beast.
@rickh9396
@rickh9396 2 года назад
Agreed about this probably being a reaction to mountain fighting in Afghanistan. The generals are always preparing for the last war rather than the one they're likely to fight next. If they wanted longer effective range they could've just converted existing M4s to 6mm ARC or 6.5 Grendel and replaced ACOGs with the new Vortex smart scopes.
@nemisous83
@nemisous83 2 года назад
problem with 6mm ARC and 6.5 Grendel is they only hold 25 rounds in a magazine and use a bored out bolt face which would lead to shorter parts life. So a lot of the same issues still persist just without the added benefit of a superior round like 6.8x51. if the 6.8x51 is simply to much SIG can always oblige the army with Maxwell conversion and new barrel to chamber what ever whizzbang intermediate caliber the army cooks up.
@samuelbishop3316
@samuelbishop3316 2 года назад
Nope The range is part of it, but they're preparing for china and russia's body armour
@notjaisavage740
@notjaisavage740 2 года назад
The entire system is basically designed to counter modern body armor, which kicks 5.56's ass currently.
@Duergantia
@Duergantia 2 года назад
@@notjaisavage740 I honestly thought that was the entire point, and I'm kind of surprised there's so much backlash. I was under the impression that our "near peers" wear armor, and 5.56 straight up can't penetrate it. That's it.
@paulsciria8921
@paulsciria8921 2 года назад
I agree
@zacharyzier314
@zacharyzier314 2 года назад
I just realized an advantage that the XM5/XM250 will have over in urban warfare: The majority of peer/near-peer combat we are seeing in Ukraine that falls into the CQB realm is being decided primarily with superior initiative, better reconnaissance and with whoever is better at getting grenades into the enemy’s lap. There’s no real advantage to the Spear vs the M4 in the grenade aspect, the Army’s said the fireteam will retain its grenadier, whether it’ll be an underslung M320/M302 or something else I don’t know. But there’s the recon value: The Spear coupled with its new optic will be leaps and bounds more effective in seeking and picking off the main opponent of an infantry formation in an urban environment: Snipers. Now each American soldier can effectively act as a poor-man’s sniper, pinning, communicating positions and allowing other elements to move in and take tactical initiative. And overall the Army’s banking on its ability to be better aware of the battle space than their opponents, as evidenced by the sheer amount of information sharing and networked capability the infantry has now compared to what it did even as recently as Fallujah or Mosul. The Spear itself comes into play here in the ability of these weapons to make structures that were once considered cover against 5.56 penetrable to the average soldier if he knows what/who is there. This allows the Spear to use its size to its advantage by standing off and picking apart enemy units from locations placed at ranges that their weapons wouldn’t necessarily be able to punch through, and attempts at closing the distance would reveal their locations to superior reconnaissance and allow for counter maneuver to be conducted to defeat them or allow air support to counter them. It is either that or the enemy would be forced to vacate the position and surrender ground. At least, that is what I think (emphasis on “I think”) is the theory of the Army’s future tactics.
@DPolk98
@DPolk98 2 года назад
Even if you’re wrong about literally everything you’ve said here, it’s still a really well thought out thought process
@landonmartin2363
@landonmartin2363 2 года назад
@@DPolk98 fr 😂
@IAM-o7o
@IAM-o7o 2 года назад
@@DPolk98 ...but...but...but, whut abouwt mUh 556??? I thought the m4 in 556 wuz the gr8test thang since sliced bread, naw whut am I gunna dew??? -random fudd
@davidlacoste
@davidlacoste 2 года назад
When i first saw the power of this new cartridge and the emphasis on armor penetration, my first impression was that the US higher-ups were planning a war against Russia.
@nelsonsham2368
@nelsonsham2368 2 года назад
If you think using a a literal Battle Rifle for CQB role is good, the M5 failed that role in every sense, and yeah you are just wrong, there is reason we go for 5.56 and AR for a reason, and not 7.62 with BR after WWII
@samdesmet7637
@samdesmet7637 5 месяцев назад
As I'm sure many of you have, I've read a lot of the history books written about American service rifle development. So many interesting questions as relating to previous doctrin . Almost like they've finally circled back and are trying to correct the issues with the M14.
@cali5.063
@cali5.063 5 месяцев назад
It sounds just like the m16s used in black hawk down, the audio at least, that thing is a beast
@trashpanda314
@trashpanda314 2 года назад
I think Sig got it pretty much dead on with the spear for a service rifle. It’s an evolution, yes, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing. The velocities coming out of it are pretty damn impressive, and the ammo will evolve and improve in short time. Ergonomically familiar. Quality components. Well thought out. I’m just a retired old grunt, but the Spear gives me a warm and fuzzy for our warfighters.
@DavidFrycSaber
@DavidFrycSaber 2 года назад
Seems like a a midway between a proper DMR and a standard infantry rifle. More rounds really are just more important than better rounds for standard infantry. The use for this seems like a SOCOM type of deal, replacing that shitty SCAR-H. Hard to see us moving away from 5.56 unless it was to use 5.45, which is really unlikely. I'd like to see a replacement for the M4 that's more reliable with less maintenance, and I think the Corps nailed it with the pick of the IAR. It's really smooth in operation, rugged, and accurate.
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC 2 года назад
@@DavidFrycSaber Just curious, why is SCAR-H crappy?
@g00gleisgayerthanaids56
@g00gleisgayerthanaids56 2 года назад
@@bokiNYC its heavy, bulky, not as ergonomic, and shoots a .308 with not enough barrel to make full use of the cartridge. Its still a fantastic firearm just not a good infantry rifle, if only just because of the cost.
@CharlieBarkinTheDog
@CharlieBarkinTheDog 2 года назад
@@bokiNYC watch this video he even said the scar H is bad. Holding the hand guard feels like holding a brick
@DavidFrycSaber
@DavidFrycSaber 2 года назад
@@bokiNYC Th reciprocating charging handle is annoying, and it kills optics for some unexplained reason. Way overpriced if you ask me. Optics are usually way way more expensive than guns are so I'd rather get a cheaper gun that still reliable like many AR's and AK's over some microscopic gains that some lab tests say the gun does better.
@GTTClan
@GTTClan 2 года назад
7:48 No photo popped up showing anything But awesome breakdown of the XM5. Absolutely love the design and function of this platform. I don't think anything will ever really replace an M4A1 or any AR15 platform for that matter, but this definitely has my acceptance of coming close.
@fqeagles21
@fqeagles21 2 года назад
And the Russian AK-12???? Hahahaah AR All the way
@christopherfilipone2327
@christopherfilipone2327 Год назад
Love how he just drops the mcx on the ground when doing the comparison in size.hahaha
@brotherjew1
@brotherjew1 2 года назад
This seems like a good *conventional war* rifle. Open ground, basic infantry tactics, support by fire type stuff alongside beltfeds. Any close range stuff, or like you said Vietnam, I’d rather have something else.
@Dim2134
@Dim2134 2 года назад
In those instances it'll probably be a good thing that we keep the old shit around for.
@brotherjew1
@brotherjew1 2 года назад
@@Dim2134 that’s what I was thinking, like in Battalion we have the Geissele upper, we still have the short Daniel Defense MK18 and guys can use either one. We even have SCARs laying around but, those go to new privates lol. So that’s probably what’ll happen with this rifle
@Dim2134
@Dim2134 2 года назад
@@brotherjew1Hmm, it's probably going to be something developed more as time goes on like the M-16 was at minimum though. Things always change in implementation.
@brotherjew1
@brotherjew1 2 года назад
@@Dim2134 Yeah like maybe a shorter CQC version? I dunno if that would fuck with the ballistics, like I dunno what they’d do to make it more SOF friendly.
@Dim2134
@Dim2134 2 года назад
@@brotherjew1 Not sure, still being able to shoot fellas with body armor is at least a good thing.
@ryanwesthoff5746
@ryanwesthoff5746 2 года назад
Totally should have stuck with side charging. I prefer that over the other for ARs. This is is probably the best review of this gun I have seen. Great job Mr. Thumb
@brighamruud5090
@brighamruud5090 2 года назад
Mr Thumb😭😭😂😂
@Bobsonomatic
@Bobsonomatic 2 года назад
He should rename to Mr Thumb, officially.
@mr.nobody68
@mr.nobody68 2 года назад
My buddy has a side charging AR15 in 22LR I'll stick with traditional, thanks
@paowerhouse92
@paowerhouse92 Год назад
I kinda wanna see a DMR version of the MCX Spear. Imagine the feet per second insanity of a 20+ inch barrel version of this weapon.
@jamesfarmer63
@jamesfarmer63 Год назад
I have been looking for a new battle riffel and was looking @ the AR-10; but between the guns&ammo mag & now y'all and seeing the rounds and your information on the actions of the military adoption of the 6.8 I've decided to Go to the 6.8 now; as well as keeping my 338Lapua magnum; I used the 338 in the Army as a sniper; but I can drop back to the 6.8 if Nessary
@gtmike916
@gtmike916 2 года назад
Personally I’d like to run this with a 16-20” barrel configuration with Sig’s Tango MSR LVPO with 1-10x Magnification. This would make a killer DMR platform for sure.
@SeanMcDermott
@SeanMcDermott 2 года назад
Except the Tango MSR 1-10 is entry level and you could do MUCH better.
@gtmike916
@gtmike916 2 года назад
@@SeanMcDermott True but I’d like to start off with less expensive glass to learn to shoot with an LPVO. I’d switch off to Sig Sayer’s more premium options or run something from Trijicon later after getting more practice.
@SeanMcDermott
@SeanMcDermott 2 года назад
@@gtmike916 I get that but this rifle is $8000. Someone buying this would likely not put anything entry level on it.
@eastwood4006
@eastwood4006 2 года назад
@@gtmike916 no reason to start off with cheap glass. Buy once cry once with glass. If you're on a budget spend less on the gun. You can get a fine gun for less than several thousand dollars, glass you cannot
@gtmike916
@gtmike916 2 года назад
@@SeanMcDermott Right but like I said I would get the better stuff later after training.
@helipilotuh1
@helipilotuh1 2 года назад
Gonna be interesting to see how long the barrels last, also given what just happened with the Army PT test, gonna be interesting to see how some people handle lugging a heavier system around.
@marktwain2053
@marktwain2053 2 года назад
Especially with the "New and Improved" 🤣 recruits that the military is allowing in!
@thomasroberts5658
@thomasroberts5658 2 года назад
Weight is always a problem with me I’ll keep my m4
@johnmartin6420
@johnmartin6420 2 года назад
@@thomasroberts5658 this Rifle is going to the Infantry and not support personal, support personal likely will receive MCX, that is already in use by the U.S Army, Navy and Air Force special Forces and are replacing the worn out M-4's and HK-416 rifles as the weat out, the MCX has also been adopted or in the process of being adopted by various foreign militarys.
@brucesmith765
@brucesmith765 2 года назад
@@marktwain2053 Yeah god forbid they let in those gays amirite?
@thomasroberts5658
@thomasroberts5658 2 года назад
@@johnmartin6420 ok
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