The VERY Messed Up Origins of Coraline (Pt. 2) | Coraline Explained - Jon Solo 

Beldam: *Puts Coraline inside the mirror to give her time to reflect* Ba dum tsss

I love how the black cat was helpful and thoughtful. Going against the stereotype that black cats are bad luck.

“Eyes are the windows to the soul” The Beldam: Installing windows

My parents made me read Coraline when I was around eight. Even as I was reading it I knew it was a messed up story, but my parents didn’t care about that, because “reading is important.” That’s a good way to scar an eight year old for years, MOTHER. I still liked it though.

You forgot one creepy thing. Corlaine, "swear on something important. That you will play fair." I swear on my mother's grave." Do you even have a mother?" Of course I put her in her grave myself, and I put her back in when she crawled out of it." Sent shivers down my spine when I heard that from the audiobook.

Wybie wasn’t added to stretch out the plot but to make it so Coraline wasn’t always talking to herself

“What’s hilarious is that Gaiman specifically said she ate everything but the pineapple chunks- I guess he wanted to make clear that she didn’t go insane from her time in the other world.” Shade.

I’d like to think Coraline’s parents have always loved and cared for her. But in Coraline’s perspectives, it wasn’t enough since they spend a lot of their time working while she wasn’t in school yet. It’s sad how as kids, we don’t notice the little things and appreciate our parents for just being there. Instead, we compared our parents with others’ whom seem much nicer on the surface. I’m glad I was taught to be weary of overly sweet people who are nice to you for no reason and seem to give a lot without asking for anything back. Things truly aren’t what they seem.

i like the book but i love the detail of wybee and his grandma in the movie and how the grandma knows about the evil in the house because her sister disappeared there

i love that coraline just sleeps away her problems😂🥴

The passageway being "alive" is such a fascinating and eerily interesting part of the book for me. Creeped me out the most

My mum has always said to me. "Books are better than the movies." Not gonna lie, she's right!

Coraline is the bravest 10 year old i have ever heard of Like seriously even now if i ever went through all of that...im going to need some hardcore therapy

Coralline is a child horror movie you can’t change my mind Edit: Thanks to Coraline I found my love of horror stuff and I also didn’t mean to offend anybody by what I said

You're right on the money I say. the Beldam's meaning as monster and the "Belle Dame sans merci" are both meanings here. In the book, it isn't that Coraline's parents are un-nurturing toward her. But they have their own jobs, lives and responsibilities that mean they need her to be creative in making her own fun when she's bored and unhappy. Her mother is also a the more practical enforcer-parent, who tells Coraline she can't have everything she longs for in the same way as happens with the gloves. Her neighbours, with their self-absorption keeping then in their has-been performance careers aren't so good at bridging the gap between her child's appreciation for entertainment and how they think about their art. The crazy man upstairs, who one would think would grab any kid's immagination, doesn't for her, probably because she's just old enough to interpret his behavior as some sort of mental health issue (It's not that simple, but that would make sense, so fair enough). In the other world, the neighbours become young and conventionally beautiful as her real neighbour ladies no longer are and their artistic work is devoted solely to the kind of unchalenging fluff entertainment which is easiest for Coraline the child to be happy with. Probably BECAUSE her parents raised her to make her own fun --to be self-reliant and creatively explorative in satisfying boredom rather than depending on others, including her parents, to keep her entertained. Coraline is a an explorer and adventurer at heart and it is this instinct for exploration that leads her to defeat the beldam. It's also key here that the other mother is a much more feminine-traditional-presenting mother figure than her own mother, who presents herself as enjoying cooking, sewing and dolls. She is ultimately caught because of her assumption that the female Coraline like tea parties. Compare this to Coraline's exasperated working mom and you begin to understand the story as dealing with the ways restrictively feminine-coded gender norms can both be caught up in appealing unharmful self-centered fantasy for young girls AND be kind of predatory, causing them to judge their mothers, their real lives and ultimately themselves in restrictive ways. Good thing Coraline's an explorer at heart and pushes those limits. The point isn't to alienate girls who love traditional femininity--Coraline owns a plastic tea set for a reason. But the story deals with how those appealing fantasies can be restrictive, keeping girls and women from the power that comes from exploring everything there is and causing them to trap themselves and others in limiting roles.

The fact that the other father was on coraline's side, he made a 'song' about her meaning he's warning her about the beldam. Example: "our eyes will be on coraline" Your welcome

I would like a Coraline 2 but showing the story of wybee's grandmother and when her sister went missing

The real question is Did his daughter even like the book??? And did she ever read it?

These Beldam stories kind of perfectly describe how a narcissist acts and behaves in real life and the lengths they go to lure in and trap their victims.

I was always that one friend that wanted to watch Coraline on Netflix when someone came over No one ever wanted to watch it with me

"Making up a song about Coraline." She's a peach, she's a doll, she's a pal of mine." "She's as cute as a button in the eyes of everyone whose ever laid their eyes on Cor-a-linnnee." "When she comes around exploring, mom and I would never ever make it boring." "Our eyes will be on Coraline."

"What's hilarious is that Gaiman specifically said she ate everything but the pineapple chunks-- I guess he wanted to make clear that she didn't go insane from her time in the other world." *Shade.*

The creepiest thing for me so far was her finding out that the hallway was alive

I've always had lingering questions ever since I watched Coraline when I was still a kid. Thanks for answering most of them. But I wanted to ask if the cat that helped Coraline has a backstory too because other than the other mother and it's world. The cat still haunts my thoughts when remembering this film

I wish that the film had included the bit where one of the ghost children reminisces about seeing Tulips, and contemplating whether or not they had names, it was a really sweet but sad little bit.

Jon Solo: suggests that pineapple on pizza is insane * *you have started a gang war* *

I love how this movie has endless interpretations that are all technically right in their own ways. It's really a very interesting movie that is suitable for all ages.

I love the “other” characters cuz you really sympathize wit them near the end of the story of both book and film.

Dispite it being a mistake, bedlam is a fitting description, since the Beldam casts a sort of confusion on her victim's and caused its own uproar near the end of the story.

"To me, you're more than Solo Cups *-insert short dramatic pause here-* You're Solo Goblets" -Our Solo Goblet leader

I was more creeped out when solo said "aren't they?" in a deep voice. Pls dont do that again 😂 im weak

I watched the movie as a kid. After a few scenes I never finished it - I was too terrified to acknowledge I saw it. Best kids movie in my opinion.

I love how the author said he was worried his youngest would be too old when in the end so many of us watching the movie and this video are adults who pay bills

Also, at the begging of the movie, Wybie says “If you fell to the bottom, look up, you’ll see a sky full of starts in the middle of the day”, meaning that when falling down the well you’ll see the night sky from the other world because on the other world it’s always night. So that could mean coralline send the key back to the witch 🤔

I need a live-action version of Coraline written and directed by Guillermo del Torro

“You wanna check out the front side of the apartment, Coraline? Ok! * *EUGH* * Here you go. You want it?”

So there is actually another theory that I've heard and it kind of goes deeper into the back story of the beldam. Basically its about how she was this beautiful woman, way back when the town was founded, who stole the hearts of everyone around her but when she started getting older she freaked out. This caused her to find an "eternal youth serum", if you will, by eating or consuming the souls of children, and along with giving her eternal beauty and life she gained other abilities. This explains why she can make the illusion of a perfect world. She began to deteriorate over time because the soul eating method isnt 100% fool proof and she is forced to make changes to her appearance, i.e. button eyes and needle hands (movie). The cat is also a huge part to the story and has deeper meaning himself. Some theories present that he is the guardian of the other world protecting children from the beldam. This is because he was almost one of her victims. Apperently the cat is the soul of a boy that escaped from the beldam, but didnt win all her games. This would explain why he knows so much about the other world, the beldam and how he can communicate. This also explains why the beldam seems so desprate for Caroline's soul. She is starving and weak because her last victim escaped. Another thing is that the well is the source of all of the magic stuff with the beldam. Her and the well have a give and take relationship. She gives it souls and it gives her power. Because she continuously let the well down and didnt play fair it cut her off. This is when Caroline traps the hand and key at the bottom of the well and the well decides to keep it. The last thing I would like to point out is the doll you see at the begining of the movie, before it is turned into a little Caroline, is the doll that was made for the grandmother's sister. This is because the sister was the last young girl victim.

Why did she literally sleep through half the story

if my father wrote a story like that for me i-- no ❤

In the last scene, you will see the cat walk on the post and disappear, this is strange because the cat can only do that is the other world. So did she ever even escape?

BUT WHY DOES THE CAT DISAPPEAR AT THE END OF THE MOVIE

The other father in the basement was way more scary than the movie.

Coralline at 10/11: save everyone Me at 10/11: eat dirt

"Coughs up the key like nothing happens and hands it you." Witch: here you want it? Me: Guess I'm doing this the old fashioned way. 🤣🤣🤣

3:10 I never noticed that they put a red mark on the back of the Beldam’s dress kinda like a Black Widow Spider....clever

The fact that a dad wrote this for his kids is the absolute wildest idea to me, because the reason I fell in love with this movie as a kid is because it's an eerily apt metaphor for parental gaslighting and emotional/psychological child abuse. This is the movie that gave me permission to not trust my mother.

I like the book better for a couple of reasons, some of the things you mentioned. But also the parents in the book were more likeable, and less negligent/angry. Coralie shares happy memories, her parents are busy, but not absent. It makes Coralines dedication to them make more sense. Whereas in the movie she just turns the other mother down cause of the button eyes, and doesn't seem to even remotely like her parents until they go missing. Both are good and enjoyable entertainment. The movie gives a fun new twist on some of the characters. But to me the book is more compelling and character driven.

5:32 The best part of the whole video

Even though Wybie is nonexistent in the book, he is my favorite Coraline character.

When I was little, there was a little door in my mom's room, like Coraline's, she sealed it off with tape, after opening it and finding a mini entry way to another tiny room. We were never allowed to be in there, due to it being dark and creepy.

The most messed up thing about the Coraline movie is the Other Miss Forcible dressed as a mermaid

I named my daughter Coraline. She was due on Halloween, but came 2 weeks early on October 24th. I spelled her name Koralyne though. She just celebrated her 9th birthday. She's a tiny little whipper snapper. She's in like the 2-4 percentiles for her weight and height, but she is feisty and "witchy" as I call her. We love to watch Coraline together and when she's old enough to read novels, I'm going to get her Coraline. Idk if anyone really cares about anything I just typed, but I digress.

Now that I think about it “The Other Mother” sounds like one of those horrible Lifetime movie.

When my older sister went to elementary school she met the creators son and they voted on what color coralines hair would be. So that’s cool.

Thanks for covering one of my favorite books, Jon! I read Coraline when it had recently come out, around 2002. I was 12 and it kept me awake at night, terrified, but I loved it. When I first saw the trailers for the movie, I was intrigued by the animation style, but put off watching it until several years after it was released. The movie has its own charm, but I can't help having that soft spot in my heart for the book. It came into my life when I needed it and I still cherish my original copy nearly 20 years later 🥰

Jon u need to make a part three yes it is true wyborn was created to Lengthten the movie but he does have an interesting origin yes the video will probably be short but viewers will enjoy it and be interested in as Coraline puts it when wyborn was called by his grandmother "why were you born?"

3:58 When Jon says “The eyes are the windows to the soul...... AREN’T THEY 👁 👁” hahaha! I got scared for real.

When people saw Wyborne in the movie for the first time after reading the book: *_WhY wErE YoU bOrN?_*

3:46 "Sounds pretty god damn terrifying, doesn't it?" OMG! IM MELTING THERE!🤣🤣🤣

Thank you for this! It’s very interesting!

Jon: She avoided the pizza cos she hadn't gone mad Me: I didn't do anything to deserve that Goblet King

When I was little, since I could talk I would tell my mom all these stories about my other mother, I don’t remember but she says they really creeped her out cause they were all really in detail/then coraline came out lmao

I think the part about the pizza is a reference to Coraline being a picky eater and complaining about her father experimenting when he cooked. By the end she grew up enough to appreciate his attemps at cooking.

Just stumbled upon your channel at midnight and i was very much entertained! Thank you!!

10:04 “she said it loud enough that the hand... could hear it” . Me: but hands don’t have ears

movie-when coraline was having cake with her other family her cake said "welcome home" with the o in welcome having one loop at the top but in home the o has two loops. according to graphology if a lowercase o has a double loop that means the person who wrote it was/ is lying. coraline was welcomed to their world but she wasn't home

THE FACT THAT HE RUTHLESSLY ATTACKED US PINEAPPLE PIZZA EATERS- 9:23

I just found this channel the other day, and I'm really becoming obsessed! I have a degree in English Lit., so this is right up my alley.

"Looking rather pissed" 😂oh my gaud lmao🤣

No matter how much i love scary stories IF MY DAD WRITES A SCARY STORY THAT TAKES PLACE IN MY HOUSE OR OLD HOUSE I WOULD NOT ENJOY IT

One of my favorite pieces of book dialogue not included in the movie: Coraline: Small world. Cat: it's big enough for her. Spider's webs only have to be big enough to catch flies.

I love how the beldam just barfed put the key for Coraline XD

Clicked so fast,she's been in that room for a week😂 had to know all the details,orginal story and film lol

So was the storyline about Wybie’s grandmother’s twin being one of the lost children just some extra movie thing?

Im just gonna sit down, relax, and enjoy some biscuits and tea w'ill watching this amazing piece of work ya got here sir!

I love your videos! You have such a fascinating way of telling and analyzing these stories. It always draws me in. Thank you :)

So I'm watching Coraline rn. I'm at the part where Coraline and her mother go clothes shopping. Coraline's mother says "I thought you'd feel...safer." After Coraline complains that she locked the door. I was thinking, what if Coraline's mother went through some traumatizing stuff when she was a kid? Maybe something similar? Idk. It just struck me weird how Coraline's mother thought Coraline would feel "safer" after locking the door.

I like how coraline was originally going to be caroline. In the movie, everyone calls her Caroline instead

coraline really just sleeps her problems away

i've been watching your vids and its really relaxing for me xD Thx Jon Solo keep up the goodwork

*The messed up origins of McDonald's.* 🍟

My mom gets terrified by lalaloopsys, so she never let me watch Coraline.

Coraline: sees a mom with buttons for eyes "oh this is ok" Me: seing my mom having buttons for eyes "not today boiii"

Love it...both,story and your videos about it! 🥰

I feel so sorry for those ghost kids.

She doesn’t wanna go to ball games she just wants to ball dames

Love Neil ! And I'm French ! When I heard beldam I automatically heard 'belle dame' (': it was nice to discover some of that lore (':

First, I love the way you break this down. Second, I also love your shirt!

Beldam: Where are your parents (also knew that coraline knows where they are.) Coraline: They're in there Beldam: LISTENHEREYOULITTLESHI-

My mom used to tell me a scary story called "the other mother" where a child was acting out and being disobedient and her mom kept saying "if you keep doing that, the other mother will come!" but she didnt listen. Then one day when she got home from school the other mother was there. I dont remember all the details but she had buttons for eyes and a wooden tail which would go thwack, thwack, thwack. I always thought that and similar stories was the inspiration

It's a wonderful thing I really like you and your story telling. I still don't know how U landed on my time line. I've been watching U for at least 2 years. ThankU Jon Solo.

I remember reading this book in elementary school. I loved it but man did it creep me out! There are descriptive lines that were in it that I still use in some of my writings even to this day!

For some reason, I have this weird memory where the scene with Coraline taking the eyes from Mr Bobinsky unfolded differently. I don't know why but I remember watching a different version. For starters Mr Bobinsky didn't turn out to be a bunch of rats, he did look just as wacky though. Coraline was desperately trying to take the eyes but Mr Bobinsky was too quick for her. Eventually, she just set down and started crying because she thought she'll never get the eyes. Then Mr Bobinsky just showed up above her and handed her the eyes saying "all you gotta do is say 'please' ". The talking cat wasn't even in this scene in my memory. I think I developed this memory around the age of 10 or 12. Imagine my surprise when I watched the movie again at the age of 12 and that scene being completely different from the one I remembered. I was convinced that there were 2 different versions of that movie.

School Bully: Hey! Coraline, I wanna fight you! Coraline: Ok. Also School Bully: 4pm Also Coraline: No. Now. " Coraline wasted no time."

I watched this series and the entire time I was contemplating on if I should sub or not and at the end of this vid when he said spooopy I was hooked I immediately subbed

I have that painting you show at the beginning! My grandmother gave it to me it hung on her wall a long time. I love the artists other works to.

Nobody: Coraline: Sleeps

I loved this movie and never knew there was a book until 3 years later. I actually found the book in a "Free Books" pile. It was so creepy but I enjoyed every minute of it.

Yancy so nice you found the error ^_^ Was still a great video!

Wow still so amazing, a poem wow so unexpected and well they were both great. But amazing I never knew about the book thank u so much.