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@@NoName-uq3vh yesterday camera was invented. In. 1854 Eloelon musk

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@@JMARTIN1947 woah 😳

She definitely was ahead of her time

@@JMARTIN1947 agree. Having children should be seen as a privilege and not a right since you are bringing a new person to this world. You are totally responsible of how is raised and a big part of the adult it will become. Supporting a child goes way beyond providing for economic needs. There's also the time, dedication the knowledge you'll be able to pass on to them. And you can't do that if you have more kids than you can realistically take care of.

@@JMARTIN1947 why not just say ‘if you suggest that to someone…? ‘ why did you feel the need to put down various categories of people? The white person you put there seems like it’s just there to be PC which is hilariously ironic considering your message. Such contradictions and confusion

@@alexiatr Then there is the unexpected! My younger half-sister and her husband decided on two children, during the second pregnancy, he got a vasectomy so that would be it. One year later, he was having trouble taking care of his children - my sister died in November after the second was born in February. The grief was so bad that he lost his job - no job and two babies. My point is that things happen regardless of how well we might plan. As for third world countries having more children, the childhood death rate is so high that often several children can become few. With that said, ALL PEOPLE should have access to birth control if they wish it and not be prosecuted if they use it.

But were they cousins?? Then they fell short of the mark! lol

Umm..and? Lol its a documentary

That was probably the age an 18 or 19 year old person looked back then. Remember, they were dying by age 35! They aged very quickly back then.

@@sortathesame8701 thats not true at all. Its a myth. Many people lived well into their 60s or 70s. The reason they say the average life expectancy was lower is because of the high infant mortality rate. The more babies you have dying, the more it'll lower the "average life expectancy", because, well, its an average, not the "norm". Common misinterpretation.

I’m sure they just wanted older people to star in this movie especially in a pleasure/sex video. 18/19 year olds are not considered full adults just yet so pleas understand that they didn’t want to use basically teenagers to play a role in this type of video. I know you were making a joke but i just wanted to explain

The suffragettes! I never knew what they were as a child watching Mary Poppins! In Canada, we have the Famous Five, women who went all the way to the British Privy council to have women declared as “Persons” a very famous court case, which in turn led to new rights for women.

Exactly

Agreed 100% and for those who continue to fight to this day!!!

Couldn't thank you enough for this wise comment. Women my grandmothers' age got us the vote and made some inroads toward gender and sexual justice. Those tasks are a long way from finished. Fight on!

@@psingerman4778 indeed💜

The misinterpretation at the time was understandable seeing they didn’t have knowledge of germs, X-rays, etc. they thought moods were based on conditions of bodily fluids and organs, they used leeches, and more. They were just lucky at the time they didn’t declare her a witch or something.

oh god that sounds horrible, glad she's alright

My grandma had a cyst the size of a basketball. She thought she was pregnant.

There is also such a thing as a hysterical pregnancy. A woman can have all the signs of a pregnancy including the bump. But no baby. The mind is a powerful thing.

@@whygohome172 I'm so sorry I hope she's doing well now

Hopefully, you never went back to him.

Rightly so. If you're telling another human to obey you.....that human is a human you dont respect. Period. Pretty obvious. To me, at least.

Congratulations.

Good for you.

I want to obey my husband, he's a good man.

Well, it's a common potential cause of nausea for women of reproductive age. Though...yeah, they probably shouldn't be asking unless they're a medical professional and you're under their care.

Can't say I've experienced that in my neck of the woods.

I have gone to the doctor for stomach problems and been basically forced to take a pregnancy test even when not sexually active. It's so frustrating that the moment you so much as hint at having stomach issues everybody jumps on the "omg are you preggos?!" wagon.

I was 15 and having a bad period...all my periods were bad, in fact years later I had a miscarriage and it was no worse than a regular period, though I bled less...anyhow, my mother asked if I were pregnant...I was a. virgin, you guessed it, I was not the favorite child

@@foureyeddragon00 Well, they never believe you

How old are you

​@@oliwia6199I bet that user is a troll or a bot.😂😂

@@oliwia6199 I’ve seen people on RU-vid who claimed to be 50+, so I think it is possible

@@spleens4200 well it's not as if they can't use youtube

@@oliwia6199i mean this account was made like 16 years ago so It’s possible for them to be 50+

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2022 NOW Ten years ago I got physically attacked by an ex. Hadn t seen him for a year.The court case resulted in THIS:150 euros ( which n.b.ever PAID)and my reputation being besmirched ,and me being made to feel like SHIT Nothing has changed when it comes to male violence versus women, my case is just yet another anonymous example

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@@ausendundeinenacht1 Yeah I was going to say. In Germany a man who harasses you, rapes you, or is violent in most of the cases faces no charge lmao

Technically, he took the prime minister to court

I think they are referring to the fact that they were madly in love and did not ever look at another--both of them. It was a beautiful marriage, from everything I have read.

Why is that impossible? It's literally everywhere.

This is a confusing comment. Could you expound on it?

I completely agree!

Solution: Marry another woman

And he never cheated, very uncommon in that time.

Many children are neither a proof of a happy marriages nor of a fulfilling and consensual sex life....

@@karinland8533 yes, but she have her diary as a proof

@@karinland8533 Yes, but her diary and letters frequently extolled how much she loved sex. She wrote to her daughters and even granddaughters that the bedroom aspect marriage was a joy and the only downside was the pregnancy and babies that resulted lol

@@piratesswoop725 i guess people back then hadnt come up with pulling out yet?? Its kinda suprising tho it seems like it would be easy to figure out. But maybe they didnt know sperm was the thing that made you pregnant i guess.

Hi how are you 🌹

I immediately thought, this man is a moron, does he fully expect to be taken seriously, with a comment like that? Sexuality has nothing to do with personal appearance... also, I have no understanding of his standards, if the drawing shown onscreen was accurate, the woman was not ugly in the least bit. When I think of "ugly" I think of maybe Janet Reno, or something? Idk. I try not to think that shallow. The material world is nothing if it isn’t lying.

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I think a lot of men wanted virgins because they had no way to compare how inadequate they performed in bed. If one man was all they knew how could they possibly compare & that suited the inadequate men.😏

Unfortunately so many countries still have that problem

What's your problem with this

@@farfallinaazzurra5318 People committed crimes against women because they doubted their virginity, they beat them, kill them and call it a kill for honor, it happens all over asia ,middle east, africa. And I'm from the middle east so I've seen quiet a bit of this sh&t

The point of this is monogamy. The establishment of a healthy family. Unlearn your brainwashing.

I agree

Poor Flora got seriously screwed over.

@@MissBee13 To say the least.

she would have been innocent and guiltless whether she was found a virgin or not.

@@walexander000 agreed.

Yeah, that bit made me laugh too - like the guy can't imagine what possible redeeming qualities a person could have besides 'pheromones' if they're not naturally gorgeous.

So sexist comment . Like she would only be worth to be loved for her looks 🙄🙄

As a 5 foot gal myself, people our height are often infantlized. She had a fiery personality and was willing to learn, although I think it's clear she wasn't as intelligent as he was. Her first language was also German, which is hilarious in the context of the world wars.

The actual image of her was most definitely NOT ugly. I wouldn’t even call her plain.

Her mind shines right through her eyes; that’s attractive as any can see.

Nothin' like being "chased" while wearing five slips, two giant hoops, three skirts and no bloomers. "You're the Reason I'm No Married."

You seem to have a great memory of those times.

@@banjopete I read a lot of history books !

Ahhhh, the good old days.........lol.

@@banjopete I may be old but I’m not that old !

If woman had an affair and got pregnant, there was no way of knowing who is the real father of the baby. Especially queen, whose main duty to her husband and her country was to give birth to a heir.

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😅🤣😂

Um-...😶

Well we never know Imma try this out , I’m pretty unpopular in school Edit: it didn’t work

Could be worse... they could be marrying siblings and even their own children, like the Hapsburg. 😱🤮

I think it's kind of intimate and sexy really -- or could be -- especially if the woman does the tying. :)

Im sure it rather worked like a C&*$ Ring as well.

The woman who delivered that line was delightful. Is that Kristin Scott-Thomas?

Stating that for a friend, aren’t you?

Crazy with husband IS moral.

@@michaelplunkett8059 Thank you. I was thinking the exact same thing! Especially if husband is crazy over wife. OMG! It is a must! There are actual books that were once included in the Bible (but later taken out or abandoned from) that talk about poems of how husbands and wives appeased each other from mid-day till dawn (12 hour rough play in the Holy text, OH MY!). Nothing about a man only being on top either. And not always man with woman. Song of Songs is that one holy text Bible Studies love to overlook and yet it has the best advice on how to treat your spouse fruitfully and honorably.

Truth. As long as he is your husband 😏😏

The idea of it being immoral, is probably what made sexual encounters so traumatic for a lot of these woman. I'm not saying they were raped or abused, but if the act itself made you feel sinful and unclean, it had to made the act shameful.

Lol

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Imagine what she'd say if she was able to see it now lol

I noticed the poo running down like mascara........

@@murieltainter5936 lolol

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Queen Elizabeth first met Prince Phillip when she was 13, and had already decided she really loved him. Eventually she married him. How sweet.

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I met a half first cousin at age 21. He looked so much like a young picture of my very handsome grandfather and had his way with conversation. I had to keep reminding myself that he and I are first cousins...well half. I can see how first cousins can be very attracted to each other. Often one will look like a particularly attractive elder of the family, and the culture of the family is familiar and comfortable. He looked like my handsome grandfather (he was a half, as grandfather was a scandalous sort in his s young years and had extramarital affairs), and I turned out to look like my grandmother...who looked like that young man's grandmother. I had red hair like that cousin's grandmother, and was fairly attractive I was told as a young woman. If he thought his grandmother was an attractive person as everyone saw my grandfather, it might explain the way he was so focused on me in conversation. As for culture? His household was never part of my family's "culture", but they seemed to have the same easy conversational manner. After such a meeting, I think I understand how cousin mariage was so common and stood the test of time. One would know from very young if one were compatible with a person, as well as their family. The family matters. Family destroys as many marriages as money and affairs.

@@dgeneeknapp3168 So you are saying you were attracted to your own cousin and he looked like your "very handsome grandfather", so you were attracted to your grandfather as well?! My goodness people are sick as hell !! Keep it to yourself, please. That is so sick and perverse. I couldn't imagine writing a comment to share those horrendous thoughts with the world. How embarrassing.

that line got me

I think that line got everyone

Yezzzzz, thatz right! Lmaorotf! 😄👍

My favorite quote of this whole video 😂

Yes!!! I died laughing!!!!!!!!

Sounds like 2021

Well said.

You meant to say how men mistreated/killed women. You didnt mean how people treated people.

Caroline should have waited until he was gone and took the kids to the county and hid Best to be alive without all stuff then dead

That hasn't changed(violence)in centuries

That's always been my opinion as well. As I have a German aunt who joined our family in the, 1950's. God bless her. She was here in the U.S. for almost 50yrs before her death around 2018 or 2019. Although, granted the German accent is hard to get rid of, I would also argue it's not impossible if one tried. In my aunt's case she did not want to lose her accent. I would further argue that if one were to take the thought process of my aunt in mind (as one example) I would say that perhaps, throughout her life, as a remembrance of her Albert, Victoria probably retained some vestiges of her German accent despite what her youngest granddaughter, Princess Alice, once said of her grandmother. Bear in mind Pr. Alice was born close to the turn of the city when Victoria was well into her late, '70's / early '80's. So, I would say that perhaps her accent was very watered down by the time Alice came along. However, I do not believe it was ever completely erased. Leading Alice to claim that her grandmother Victoria had "no accent" at all.

The English royals are German they even changed their original last name to Windsor

and there'S still much to be done...Brava cara. That move was so important, as you know, and changed the world just taht much more, so that there can be decent and real loving between us all...not abuse called "loving" which it's not-- it's illness--and never has been.

Yet men can’t escape violent women

Absolutely!

@@teacoon6399 know exactly, a different kettle of fish yet it can be done.

Hooray for you! I love a happy ending.

I thought exactly that as well lol

My thoughts exactly. He's at least 40 but more likely pushing 50 .... Nice looking, anyway

Looking at pictures though, a lot of them looked older back then. I guess since they’ve seen some shit.

Albert had a thick ass and legs in the picture of them getting married.

Life was hard back then and people aged fast in looks so maybe that was why they picked him

How can you have a British son, if you are Zambian? Sorry if that's a stupid question.

​@@elvenkind6072I would guess that the other parent is British and their child was born and is being raised in Britain. he might have mixed genetics, but it's logical the he is considered British. alternatively, adoption is a thing and although much rarer, it could also be that. a zambian parent adopting a British son.

Some women were"catty"about that

Perhaps she was told that Lady Flora was pregnant and that’s what caused the situation. None of us know for sure what was said between them. There was so much ignorance back then. I feel horrible for what Flora went through. There wasn’t good health care or vast knowledge. We are blessed to know much more in today’s society.

@@proudmarinemomma827 after Lady Flora’s death she was found to have stomach cancer but Victoria never cleared her name& that I find shameful.

'never explain', is one of the mottos (motti?) of the British Monarchy

That's what Mary Poppins told Mr.Banks

and that info should be made much more public than it is....

The fact that Men even had the nerve to look at/touch a woman to check such a thing 🤮 To this day I don't understand why men want to be OBs

@@notrend204 You don't understand why men want to take care of pregnant women and children in today's time? That's just as sexist as "A woman's value lies in her virginity". Come on, man.

Horseback riding here.....if someone wanted to pass up the whole package due to a technicality, that’s their problem.

@@bajemo359 I don't think I even had one, but if I did it was so fine that I never noticed it. Had my first pap before I'd had sex and there was no discomfort or anything. 🤷‍♀️

Right? Its like "why isn't everyone as happy and pious as us??" Its like "maybe you're the exception and really really lucky"!

bangin'

Fellatio, cunnilingus, and anilingus, were consider highly improper for a respectable wife to engage in, so the men used prostitution and/or mistresses for the kinky sex acts. The ‘respectable’ wife’s only sexual activity was the missionary position, and she could not show any signs of pleasure. WOW, such fun! Some women never engaged in sex with their husbands after children were conceived. Their wifely duty was done, as sex was only to make babies, not for pleasure. Some wives would sneak a lover, keeping hubby in the dark. They all had the illusion of respectability. Hookers and mistresses were in demand I’m sure. Victorian era…..prime and proper………..🤣

@@mchapman132 old era: you cant satisfy yourself respectably so you satisfy yourself secretly Modern era: you try to satisfy yourself fucking everything, anything, anywhere, and everywhere mr d can go in, but you still cant satisfy yourself but ended with broken heart, diseases, unwanted kid, and abortion.

@@mchapman132 Don't forget STIs LOL. Also I'm sure it didn't help that some upper class marriages weren't really out of love.

Among other things, she used the existing laws to her advantage, and made her life with Norton so unpleasant that he almost begged her to divorce him, anyway.

@@shahancheong9792 how did she make it unpleasant? Especially when he was physically abusive? She must been a brave woman

@@articxunodorseggnej8016 in Victorian times, the law dictated that when a woman married, EVERYTHING that she owned became the property of her husband. All her money, all her property, all her income - everything. This was because it was assumed that the husband would provide for her, therefore, why does SHE need it? Right? The problem with this is that EVERYTHING that the woman owns becomes the property of her husband - EV-VER-ERY - THING. That includes ANY and ALL DEBTS that she accrues. They don't belong to her - they belong to her HUSBAND. She doesn't, she can't, and she's NOT EXPECTED to pay her own debts - HER HUSBAND DOES THAT FOR HER. That's how the law works. So what did she do? She ran up a GIGANTIC debt just going on shopping-sprees and stuff like that. Creditors came calling. "Where's our money!?" "Don't ask me! Ask my husband!" So they did!...and it turned his life into a living hell.

@@shahancheong9792 he should’ve divorced her not used her as a punching bag, have some humane decency. You wouldn’t be understanding if someone kicked a dog for being noisy would you

@@urmom90210 divorce her? And lose all that sweet, sweet money she was pulling in? No way.

As a Royal, she was unable to relieve her sexual desires after Albert died. Others of a lesser status would have found a way out with lovers, etc. No wonder she withdrew into herself.

@@applefruit4176 I don't see that happening !

"Unduly wallowing in grief longer than seemly" springs to mind...

She never forgave her son

​@christopherpattison7877 men, too mourned a dead love a lot. Like the uncle of the protagonist of the secret garden who never remarried, moped around in a depressed state , acted like a workaholic and generally ignored everything around him for like 10 years until his 10 year old niece shows him how to live a normal life again via showing him that she managed to get his 12 year old son to get up and walk after the boy had spent years bedridden or in a wheelchair. Behold the impossible ❤❤

Amen. I have experienced much the same, frequently. But if great grandfather Thomas (or whoever) was a total sonofabitch, then he was a total sonofabitch and that's that. If we could 'engineer' our own lineage, I can find a couple of folks in my own lineage that I'd gladly delete. But some have pointed out that then, I wouldn''t be "me". Ok by me, I would not have known the difference, and the rest of my family in that lineage would have been much happier, safer and better off. If a snake is a snake, it's a snake and you don't call it a fuzzy puppy just because a puppy would have been nicer.

I am glad her descendants took up for her virtue and put George in the damnable light he deserved.

This is more about how Victoria and Albert's marriage SEEMED perfect to people of their time and how that perfect persona put up such a high bar for everyone else's marriage and ultimately reinforced societal pressures for perfect matrimonial bliss.

Albert was determined to become King, especially after the lessons Uncle Leopold of Belgium passed along to him after he was widowed when the Heiress Presumptive Charlotte died during birth. Leopold continued to be invited, and he was given the Belgian throne. He made sure his nephew was educated and ready to assume kingship, even as the Mountbattens hoped Philip would become king, over QEII. Of course, Albert was a severe workaholic ; for thr power? To get away from Victoria's cloying , crazy moods? Those emotional extremes evident in Victoria, and even her uncles, remain evident in the UK royal family . They are all so tightly corked emotionally, it's they way they survive, until this day.

This video is about their private relationship with regard to romance and physical intimacy and how this both affected and sometimes contrasted with their public image. It has nothing to do with them seeing eye to eye politically.

@@magicpainthorse The Crown is not a documentary. It's a historical drama, some of which has been altered to elevate the entertainment value.

@@meeeka How could either Albert or Philip have possibly become king? There wasn't any legal provision for that.

It was done all throughout history and only up until maybe 100 years ago did it taper off. It is legal in most of the states in the US and are probably still is legal in Europe. I don't understand why people act like this is so surprising.

@@celestebivin1659 Oh, I'm not surprised. But to correct, marrying your first cousin is legal in about half of the United States, sadly. Marrying your second cousin however is legal in all the United States. Idk about Europe. Even though it's legal it's extremely taboo for the most part, as it should be. It's disgusting and you have a really great chance of fucking up your children by marrying incestuously. Because that's what it is, incest. Countless case studies have been done about this and 3 of Queen Victoria's children had hemophilia, one of which died a horrible death after hemorrhaging internally after a fall. There is also concern that that hemophilia could crop up again in British Royal family members, particularly from Princess Beatrices Spanish line from silent carriers. Moral of the story, maybe let's not glorify romantically being involved with your family members. Say what you want about Queen Victoria's passionate love affair with Albert, it's gross, but back then they didn't know any better, but we do now. Don't fuck your first cousin.

@@celestebivin1659 yes. But in breeding caused so many genetic, physical and mental disorders on the Royal houses. Have you read about some mad kings and queens, especially in Spain. There was also one who was had like, green skin because of inbreeding. Queen Victoria was such a fan of this though, to keep power and wealth within the family. even her own children intermarried with their relatives.

@@celestebivin1659 its incest!

@@JustYourAverageGirl2002 Well, to tell you the truth I know from where you're coming from and to a degree even support what you even mentioned above, but on an emotional level... OUCH! THAT REALLY HURTS! especially when you said gross and disgusting and maybe I'm baised as much as you becuase to me, in our religion it's fine and ok to marry our cousins! It's not gross or disgusting to me... It's normal and so far I never heard about anyone in the family struggling from any illnesses or whatnot! and I hope you won't be offended by disaggring with you on this, but my cousin is NOT my brother or my sister and never will be... they're family...

He did, however, get to be the architect and overseer of the construction of The Crystal Palace which burnt down in 1937. He used his influence to improve the circumstances of the poor, too. Truly a wonderful human being

"It's like the Netflix of History"

Just British :)

They were quoting what someone wrote over 150 years ago. So people in the past were not allowed to have a sense of humour ? You must be a Leftist, they don't seem to have a sense of humour.

@@dariusanderton3760 bruh chill a little

Usually one always follows the other 😂

@Elle - It's obviously a metaphorical statement. 😁

Women had to pave the road against a patriarchal society that was all about power and control.

Yes she should have walked away from him Took the kids in a buggy when he was gone and hid in the country somewhere

@@coconut569 So easy for you to say that, but women had nowhere to go, and few had their own money to support themselves, and if they left their husbands they were penalised by Society.

@@alicehudson8079 I see Really a nightmare. Shew!

Slick production, but still a bit tawdry and tendentious as an allegedly historical documentary.

Where do you get the information about an "open carriage". All the pictures I saw of that cold, dreary January day show a closed casket set upon Albert's gun carriage. So, where do you get the info of an open carriage from?

Really? I'd never heard about that. It was amazing how the whole empire loved Queen Victoria. There's a wonderful statue of her in Adelaide. I'm sorry from Victoria.

I have a soft spot for antique stuff especially lamps and candle holders and ink wells

@@garycarpenter2980 I actually have an old public service desk from a slightly later era. I purchased ot at Auction when my former workplace was closed and a lot of the contents sold. It was made somewhere between 1901 and 1940. It was in terrible condition with a top that was cut to fit it inot a small space and broken drawers and loose legs. The top was also badly stained with old engine oil. It is now restored and I am using it as an office desk replacing a piece of crap from Ikea.

My father found two of those pieces , both curio cabinets at a yard sale in Ontario, in early 70s. Being British he recognized the oval glass fronts as being Victorian. He scratched off the black paint at the back and knew immediately they were a treasure. He bought both for a song and after stripping off paint and restoring them, my mother enjoyed them until her death in 1995. Now my sister and I each have one.

I'd like to subscribe to more furniture facts.

it is not a priviledge, it is your right, and ours to have the benefit of you being healthy and seeking and creating our happiness. Which blesses us.

@@gwirgalon3758 Sadly, not everyone or not every country provides this kind of rights or privileges to its citizens. 😔

Steer clear of Texas. The religious right is rolling back women’s’ rights there.

@@gwirgalon3758 that is a truly astonishing assertion...clearly context...it is so fashionable now to feel entitled! We are in a most fascinating time

Stay with us

He didn’t choose him for Victoria but for himself! Brown served Albert for 10 years until the Prince died, first then Brown begann to serve Queen Victoria.

“…set her straight when she went overboard…” 🙄

Eh, he went after grown women, not children.

Just because he was a womaniser doesn't mean he was a pedophile

Except all power, position , money and autonomy emanated from him.

@@TabbyeLynne just because he was a womanizer, doesn't mean he *wasn't* a pedophile.

Tbh at least the actor uncle he didn’t come off as a creeper I’m not sure about her other uncles. Wouldn’t be surprised.

I think they are all dead.

@Cj C Same here a person puts their hands on me I'm beating their ass.

The queen was strange herself,passing her family disease to her kids and then they passed it on to their own cousins

Not as strange as NOW!

The Victorian era was strange, only to be exceeded in strangeness by the present.

@@EmilyTienne How so?

lmfaooo

Thanks to the delusions of immaculate conception (as is the foundations of Christianity), it was easy to imagine pregnant virgins

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I don’t want to know! But if YOU don’t want me to know it must be destroyed! 😂

You get to know thing's that you never knew about

@WTFW what do you mean by that?

Yeah honestly I think they just like the aesthetic of it? But yeah women were very oppressed in that era but I think people romanticise it without emphasizing the whole grim women exploitation thing. I read comics and e-books romanticising this theme and I see that instead of following the social norms back then, authors give it this modern independent norm to the characters and just keep that Victorian aesthetic

Just so you know it's majority of women who fantasizes Victorian Era 🙃

@@jillhapitan8277 even IF that were true (which you have not cited any sources to back up this claim so its basically an opinion at this point and not a fact,) I don't think modern women's fascination with the victorian era has anything remotely to do with the oppression or lifestyles of women and more about the style of clothing they wore.

Yeah, the fashion and interior design were nice, but it would be terrible to live back then

Other comments already kind of pointed this out but there's nothing wrong with appreciating the aesthetics of a particular era. That doesn't mean we agree with 100% of what happened during that era or that you have to necessarily love everything about an era to enjoy some aspects of it. There are lots of things wrong with our current society too, so do we just never appreciate anything ever then?

well today things are a bit better but still...

but in a divorce the ex-wife now gets half of what the husband earns, even if she played absolutely no role in how much he makes.

@@dariusanderton3760 Then do not get married.

Crazy how you believe everything you see.

@@dariusanderton3760 Or in my case, they give it to the husband even if he played no role in how assets were acquired...

Sexy portrays more of an aura, not necessarily reflective of physical appearance.

lol me too

@@ElysetheEevee agreed. It’s the attitude! Appearance is just the first impression.

and her name was Mary Ann not Marion! How could Narrator not have known this?

Well man woman & DOG loved her… so

As a Christian yes 🙌🏼

Unfortunately, society does not value ANY virtue or purity anymore.

@@djholliday4413 being a virgin doesn’t make you pure, and having sex doesn’t make you dirty

Testify!

@@joygernautm6641 I didn't say it did or it didn't. We are discussing moral purity.. However, we live in an over sexualized society where children are exposed to sex 24/7. We can't watch TV or look on the internet without seeing sex, gender dysmorphia & homesexuality. Pornography has taken over. Now...do whatever feels good...whatever you want goes, right? How about some self respect? I'm not a perfect person myself, but I do have morals and standards. Those are lacking in the world today.

Pistachios, mustachey-os, spagghetti-os

Orange Ziggy, I'm going to have to agree with you. Much eye-rolling here...

Mustacios

When I was in junior high,my gym coach had always worn a handlebar mustache and my mom met him once and she didn't like it,she wasn't fond of beards or taches

😂😂😂😂

No.Victoria told her daughter to think of England when She arranged loveless marriage for her.

If you go to private schools they do.

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I guess you are not aware of the different meanings of ecstasy? ( overwhelming, usually used in a positive way)

Theresa experiences difficulties in her younger years. Then in her later years she experiences ‘ecstasy’ as an all encompassing sense that she is in the presence of Christ. Are you suggesting that through the ‘grief ‘ she arrives at that exalted state ?

@@loribrown9204 no

Colinda Teeueisse I was looking for a dialogue. I guess you weren’t. I guess you are not aware of the meanings of grief; sorrow, sadness, anguish etc. Usually used in a negative way!!

I too liked the phrasing. I love when secondary meanings of a word are used, it broadens an understanding of the beauty of words. Like when someone says a movie is "pedestrian". It makes the brain pause. Pedestrian to most is someone who walks. But pedestrian also means "ordinary, bland, not exciting". In this case, ecstasy's secondary meaning was used. And I will be using it too. Ecstasy also means "a state of emotion so intense that one is carried beyond rational thought and self-control such as "an ecstasy of rage."

I mean I would . Money is money !

She's homely not ugly

Not ugly. Handsome.

I wouldn't say she was ugly at all. 'Homely' or 'plain' would be more like it. However, I have no doubt that her fascinating mind and what she spoke of would have likely made her a very magnetic person to be around. It's funny how someone can be 'not conventionally attractive' but genuinely intelligent and confident in themselves, and come across as being quite attractive as a result - the sort of person whom you can't look away from when they speak. Similarly there have been a few people I've seen and met who were very attractive but who had really bad personalities and, in my eyes, became increasingly unattractive as a result of it. My sister's abusive boyfriend was one such example; I had a bit of a crush on him originally (because he seemed the poster boy for 'tall, dark and handsome'), until I spent a holiday at her place and found out how he secretly treated my sister. Hearing the things he said to her when he didn't know I was there, and seeing the uncontrollable rages he would fly into, made him unbearably ugly in my eyes - that's when I first understood that an attractive face is just a thin vaneer when there's ugliness underneath, and once that vaneer is lifted, there is only the ugliness left.

*Edward VII

@@mygoogle1594 Thanks for the correction.

Yes. You have to be pretty darn nasty to send staff on a trip that will take them close to a yr (round trip), just to go to a foreign country to destroy someone else's personal property. Then travel all the way back to your own place of origin once the task us complete. Couldn't imagine how demoralized Abdul Karim and his family must have felt after the incident. For that matter I wonder how his descendants felt throughout the intervening decades.

I've heard this story when I was a young teen from my dad. He always told us stories with moral & ethical standards attached to it or a lack thereof. He said she tarnished all the good the king & she had.

What, I thought they were home videos

ha ha touche!

Oh my🤭

The crotch less part was actually meant for going to the restroom because of the huge dresses with all the layers. They had to be able to go without removing all of the layers.

I know, right? I was just listening to this but I had to stop and take a look at the fool who judged a smart woman for her looks as if she was less deserving of attention. That should have been edited out of the final cut, it offered nothing to the documentary.

Seriously is it so hard to believe that people enjoyed being around her because she was smart and interesting not because she had supernatural pheromones coming out of her ears.

The comment about Mary Ann Evans by the pointless, awful old man was just purile sexism, and it certainly did not add anything to the documentary.

@@skadi84 There’s nothing wrong with what he said. He was just being frank and honest about the nature of attraction.

@@Miquelalalaa that was purely his own openion.... It shouldnt have been on vedio.

Yes, Well Done- Nothin' like being "chased" while wearing five slips, two giant hoops, three skirts and no bloomers. "You're the Reason I'm No Married."

Kimi, I think your comment should be placed right at the very top of all the comments!! Correct you are!!

So is this one.

@@jh2325 lmao you're right about that

Probably every era tbh. I think you'll find double standards held by society in any age

was????

For goodness sake, his son was set up with a woman by his army mates and he had sex with her. He didn't murder anyone. Albert had ridiculously high standards for his heir that, by this time, he should have been well aware that the boy was not able to live up to them.

@@zzzbbbooo you must understand that sleeping with a woman you werent married to is a shameful thing ESPECIALLY for royalty that is trying to represent whats good and biblical at the time. Its nearly the equivalent of a very religious persons kid coming out as gay in our modern times. It can break the parents hearts even if other people see it as an overreaction 😢 I know a guy who does raunchy rap music. His religious grandma found out about it and heard some of his music (which degraded women tremendously) she nearly had a heart attack and ended up hospitalized. Never underestimate how people can react to certain things. It can truly kill people.

@@loveapureheart 💀 bruh