The War in Ukraine: A Conversation with Yaroslav Trofimov (Episode

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Sam Harris speaks with Yaroslav Trofimov about the War in Ukraine. They discuss the widespread false assumptions that Russia would win a swift victory, Ukrainian attitudes toward Russia, the transformation of the Ukrainian military, Russian incompetence, Russian public opinion, the Azov Battalion and the “de-Nazification” of Ukraine, the role of the Orthodox Church, conspiracy thinking and Russian propaganda, Putin’s popularity on the Right, NATO membership, the Minsk 2 agreement, alleged failures of Western diplomacy, Zelensky’s leadership, the moral clarity of the war, Russian war crimes, the new cult of WW2 victory in Russia, the numbers of casualties and displaced people in Ukraine, delays in US aid to Ukraine, nuclear blackmail, long-range weaponry, the weakness of western sanctions, the sabotage of the Nordstream pipeline, how the war might end, the complicated prospects of a Trump presidency, and other topics.
Yaroslav Trofimov is the chief foreign-affairs correspondent for The Wall Street Journal and the author of several books including Faith at War, Siege of Mecca, and most recently, Our Enemies Will Vanish. Born in Kyiv, Ukraine, and educated at New York University, he was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize in international reporting in 2023, for his work on Ukraine, and in 2022, for his work on Afghanistan. His honors include an Overseas Press Club award for coverage of India as well as the Washington Institute gold medal for the best book on the Middle East.
Website: www.yarotrof.com
Twitter: @yarotrof
March 11, 2024
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@marikasvitlako 2 месяца назад

thank you Sam for bringing Yaroslav to us. His expertise as a journalist and his personal connection to Ukraine add a poignant layer to the conversation

@gmw3083 2 месяца назад

Totally skips the fact that Ukraine was negotiating a week after Russia entered. Russia agreed to pull back from Keeve as part of those negotiations. Then boris Johnson flew in to Keeve with a message from DC. 'End all negotiations'.

@Macbrother 2 месяца назад

Pure cope. Artillery, Ukrainian resistance, and faulty Russian assumptions and logistics forced Russia's retreat. Keep dreaming.@@gmw3083

@usergiodmsilva1983PT 2 месяца назад

@@gmw3083sure it was Mr.Bot.

@gmw3083 2 месяца назад

@@usergiodmsilva1983PT Those are facts simpleton.

@bjkarana 2 месяца назад

Thanks Sam and Yaroslav!

@atguils 2 месяца назад

"If Ukraine had just implemented the Minsk Accords" is a refrain a heard quite frequently Ukraine's detractors and people rushing to absolve Putin as much as possible. It shows a total inability to acknowledge Russia's involvement in 2014, the lack of sincerity of Russia and the so-called People's Republics, and what these agreements actually contained

@rmdomainer9042 2 месяца назад

Yeah I am so tired of those bot narratives. It feels like one is communicating with a farmed brain, spouting one-liners, floating in a tank somewhere.

@justgivemethetruth 2 месяца назад

@@rmdomainer9042 Who care what you feel like?

@justgivemethetruth 2 месяца назад

Just mentioning something sarcastically is not an American rhetorical way to argue against something and make a point? BS.

@rmdomainer9042 2 месяца назад

@@justgivemethetruth Your comment indicates that you do.

@rmdomainer9042 2 месяца назад

@@justgivemethetruth " not an American rhetorical way to..." What is this word salad? Are you an AI faced with a poor prompt? Are these Americans in the room with you now?

@captainzappbrannagan Месяц назад

Sam brings top experts in fields to the front stage. Regardless if they fit his position or not. Reason and logic live here.

@andriiomelianenko8282 2 месяца назад

Great to finally listen to person who understands the true reality of Russian war against Ukraine. Sam, thanks for bringing such guests! The previous one on Israel war against Hamas was a great one too

@andykidd99 2 месяца назад

"Pornography of suspicion" What a perfect phrase to describe Q-anon's beliefs.

@CP-nl2zb 2 месяца назад

Works for Blue-annon And all the Rush gate numb skulls as well Sam is a World Champion Pseudo intellectual. Sammy The Pseudo Harris.

@soroushjalili2008 2 месяца назад

Hey, what’s q anon??

@---Free-Comics---IG---Playtard 2 месяца назад

That's what happens when culture is indoctrinated to accept "any string of words presented to them".

@---Free-Comics---IG---Playtard 2 месяца назад

@@soroushjalili2008 A Christian "AstroTurf" group that promulgates tabloid-esque sensationalism based upon doublespeak.

@medicalanimal1479 2 месяца назад

Finally an uplifting topic 😅

@ianelliott8224 2 месяца назад

Why is nobody discussing the pernicious effect of Mearshiemer on the narrative.

@irongron 2 месяца назад

Yea, but that's where you can do an entire show, the pervasive and corrosive effect of Russo-centrism in academia is a serious issue that goes back a century when academic escapee's from the Bolsheviks came to Western Universities. They were anti-communist, but not necessarily, anti-Russian Imperialism. Solzhelnnitsyn is a textbook example, anti-Soviet, but when Russia invaded Ukraine and took Crimea, he was revealed posthumously, to be a Russian Imperialist of the most crass from (He always advocated for the "return" of Crimea). Google this - "Do Svidaniya to Russo-centrism Western schools start decolonizing Eastern Europe studies". Mearsheimer is the tip of the iceberg and most well known in that respect that evolved from this insidious effect of Russo-centric narratives a long time ago. The most insidious and dangerous of these "Mearsheimer" types that is not well knwn is Samuel Charap, he is on the advisory team for NatSec Advisor Jake Sullivan and surely poisons his ear with the Russo-centric nonsense that Mearsheimer peddles.

@jaarneal 2 месяца назад

This really is sad. Why is it that Mearsheimer is so widely accepted as an expert, when he literally predicted in 2015 that Putin would never attempt to conquer Ukraine? I actually don't question his IR expertise broadly, and I suspect his offensive realism model is a good tool (though amoral). But the guy has very little understanding of the region and its history, and he appears to have no insight at all into the Kremlin. And I mean... that's just not acceptable if you're gonna advertise him as an expert, and he is often advertised as such.

@watch3r1 2 месяца назад

@@irongron Excuse me but what the fuck does Solzhenitsyn have to do with the Russian annexation of Crimea? He died in 2008 which is about 6 years before the invasion of Crimea.

@irongron 2 месяца назад

@@jaarneal No arguments at all. Legitimate and relevant points & questions. 👍

@Juli6SS 2 месяца назад

Згинуть наші воріженьки як роса на сонці ~

@swaggitypigfig8413 2 месяца назад

wtf you say

@bobbynomates958 2 месяца назад

Couldn't agree more

@bigolboomerbelly4348 2 месяца назад

I think it's part of lyrics to the Ukrainian national anthem. Normally it is translated as our enemies will vanish like dew in the sun.

@kukuster 2 месяца назад

@@bigolboomerbelly4348 sounds very nazi, that's definitely a rebuttal to all the arguments against russia

@kopyloffandrew 2 месяца назад

@@swaggitypigfig8413 bro got banned from google. RIP

@matschramm 2 месяца назад

Nice work Yaro!

@justgivemethetruth 2 месяца назад

People are complaining about John Mearsheimer who was talking about this and predicted it 8 years before. Why shouldn't Sam have a discussion with John Mearsheimer?

@senikko Месяц назад

Because that pundit bankrolled by the Kremlin has been heard enough on other platforms

@bwana4711 2 месяца назад

I would like to continue listening to this program.

@asraarradon4115 2 месяца назад

Just go to the website and sign up. And seriously, it is free if you can't afford it. He's not lying. You just hit the button for a discounted account at the "check out" portion of the sign up, and then it has multiple options for different pay levels, one of which is free. I've never seen anything like it. It's the strangest pay model I've ever seen. I guess there just must be some super subscribers who must make up enough of the difference.

@daheikkinen 2 месяца назад

With money all things are possible

@SRAKAMOTYKA 2 месяца назад

Well done Sam 👍🇺🇦

@Josephus_vanDenElzen 2 месяца назад

I wonder why instead of enumeratimg all topics in the beginning of each episode, Sam's team doesn't use RU-vid chapters like almost everyone else now?

@nikiyen6 2 месяца назад

He wants to include topics that are not in the free part of the podcast

@Chris-fn4df Месяц назад

This is a clip. He makes it pretty clear that other media platforms will not be made a major part of his business model.

@kingoftimelapse6118 2 месяца назад

More or less realistic representation of situation in Ukraine. Thanks for this conversation.

@scotchbarrel4429 2 месяца назад

Tackling the difficult topics, and with the back wind resistance of MAGA, its tpugh work, good on ya mate 👊💙

@soroushjalili2008 2 месяца назад

Just a heads up; we’re outnumbered 7:1 on artillery lads. That’s the whole of Europe

@alexluthiger731 2 месяца назад

The winners don't trust in the big number of followers and in the power of sophisticated weapons: The winners are only a few - a small number - who trust in the divinity of our spiritual existence, even weaponized with the Sword of the Spirit: the freely spoken Word of God and a slingshot. 🍷😎

@willdon.1279 Месяц назад

The whole of Europe is, sensibly, only putting a proportion they can afford to Ukraine. And democracies do not, and cannot, be run like dictatorships - they have "Real" voters...and real services to provide. We don't know the full extent of unhappy Russians. Yet.

@radscorpion8 2 месяца назад

I can forgive Sam's extremely reductionistic religious takes on the Israel-Gaza war if he does a good job dismantling pro-Kremlin propaganda :). Good work Sam

@justgivemethetruth 2 месяца назад

OK, Russia creates propaganda. What is your studied analysis of American propaganda?

@willdon.1279 Месяц назад

@@justgivemethetruth Maybe what happens to public dissenters on one side, and not the other, says something? Like Navalny; Prigozhin. Yushenkov. Politkovskaya. Litvinenko. Estemirova. Magnitsky; Nemtsov.

@justgivemethetruth 2 месяца назад

Best podcast on RU-vid

@talbotd27 2 месяца назад

“A pornography of suspicion”. What a great way to phrase that phenomenon. Good thing Sam is on TikTok, I think his head would literally explode 😂

@kamsotas 2 месяца назад

Thanks for an informative podcast

@justgivemethetruth 2 месяца назад

When Russia supposedly invaded Ukraine one of the first things I found was a lecture from 8 years earlier by John Mearsheimer predicting this exact event. That provoked me to start investigating and recalling American behaviors about wars going back to Vietnam. I am still confused about this, unwilling to defend Russia, but also unwill to buy into our American narrative either. The US seems to have interfered in Urkaine going back to Maidan and the revolution that kicked out of office a Ukrainian President who was trying to do right by his people. The US has removed a lot of leaders in other countries from power who were trying to help their people - there is a whole list of them, and many CIA and State department insiders who have spoken about it. I tend to see Russia-Ukraine as a disagreement about the split between Russia and Ukraine when the USSR dissolved. I think it is something the US should have stayed out of - except for one reason. That reason would be if couped Ukrainian President Yanukovych's plan to have Ukraine be neutral and an intermediary between Russia and the EU was predicted seriously to impact the US's influence and economic power in Europe. On the other side is the desire for the US to keep pushing Russia through NATO expansion and putting pressure on it, as we do to all our seld made enemies, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, China, Vietnam, etc. If you are not an American puppet regime you are a communist threat to the world and must be destroyed. That's the rules of the game. So, I don't think Putin is the devil incarnate, and I do think he is looking after the best interests of Russia, and ethnic Russians in Ukraine. But on the big battlefield of global big power politics, I support the US. I just think we should be more transparent about it, and not overindulge because we have made a wreck of our own country now. It will not be too long before Russians and Chinese have a better lifestyle that Americans if we keep this foolishness up - at least without American citizen buy-in - and compensation.

@stranger2Utube 2 месяца назад

Great, informative and truthful conversation.

@davidmares6053 2 месяца назад

Great episode

@Mikey52194 2 месяца назад

He has 666k subscribers rn. lol

@swaggitypigfig8413 2 месяца назад

🤡🤡🤡

@terrbearyt 2 месяца назад

Rounded down to the nearest 1k. So not really meaningful in any way. But good job on pattern recognition.

@SevenRiderAirForce 2 месяца назад

@@terrbearyt You must be great fun at parties

@Mikey52194 2 месяца назад

@@terrbearyt lol

@swaggitypigfig8413 2 месяца назад

@@SevenRiderAirForceIndeed, I can verify that he is great fun at parties!

@JD.......... 2 месяца назад

Sam, please consider talking with Vlad Vexler as a continuation of this, a Russian history expert.

@BogdanGolovchuk 2 месяца назад

Sam, Please invite Serhii Plokhy

@gurkh1 2 месяца назад

we’ve met with yaroslav in september last year near bakhmut, when he was working on his drone war material for wallstreet journal. great to hear him speaking with sam

@SolitaryReaper666 2 месяца назад

Это круто, спасибо

@Jules-Was-a-Christian 2 месяца назад

Listening to extended version free (thanks Sam) and abt "war crimes," ppl don't realize how robust the definition is, according to UN. I'm not saying that definition, or many associated designations are necessarily erroneous, just that it's therefore perfectly possible for Israel for example, to be on moral high ground minimizing civilian casualties as much as possible, while still committing (usually accidentally) war crimes.

@toby9999 2 месяца назад

Is there actually a free extended version? I can't justify a $150AU subscription.

@Jules-Was-a-Christian 2 месяца назад

@@toby9999 Yeah, if you're broke af like my brokeass.

@riverryebluegrass7935 2 месяца назад

Word

@eriksyring 2 месяца назад

3: No, the correct pronunciation is Trofímov.

@GingerDrums 2 месяца назад

The peace treaty was on the table since April 2 years ago. The catesrophic overextention of which Russia was accused in the first months of the war is ten times more true about the delusion surrounding a supposed Ukranian military victory.

@clopotari147 2 месяца назад

Do u know what russian "peace" is? It was a peace before the war. All Eastern Europe know this.

@ShinyJ9001 2 месяца назад

Put ads on so everyone can take in this content 🙄

@kopyloffandrew 2 месяца назад

Thank you for this conversation. We are getting messages like "Do you still have air raid alerts?" from westerners. It is important to keep Ukraine and Russo-Ukrainian war in focus.

@alexandern5296 2 месяца назад

Russia actually never claimed 3 days. Not by Russian mod or Putin made that claim. They did claim 2 weeks though.

@justgivemethetruth 2 месяца назад

Oddly Russian had no idea that Trump was the first American President to ship arms to Ukraine, and Ukrainian troops were trained, and ready - in fact, one of the reasons Russia "invaded" was because the softening up artillery barrages in the Donbas were increasing every day and Ukrainian troops were massing on the border ready to invade after 8 years of fighting. Russia pre-empted this and made a shot for Kiev to break off some Ukrainian troops - but there were many more Ukrainian military than Russia understood.

@Potatoarmy12 2 месяца назад

Why is your voice so monotone

@user-nj3lc2xm8q 2 месяца назад

Can we have on podcast person with Russian perspective pls

@enacte 2 месяца назад

Amazing how the republican party has become such pwssies about russia.

@leahcimolrac1477 2 месяца назад

Amazing how the left wing started loving and trusting big pharma in 2020

@mkh123 2 месяца назад

@@leahcimolrac1477 These things are not related to each other.

@witherbossbros1157 2 месяца назад

From an historical perspective this explains some things, but really offers nothing for the path forward.

@williampatton7476 2 месяца назад

Such as?

@witherbossbros1157 2 месяца назад

Such as a military perspective from someone such as Ben Hodges.@@williampatton7476

@surfeit1234 2 месяца назад

… VERY disappointed Rory Stewart is ultimately… some kind of ‘ Switzerland’ ….

@documundo9749 22 дня назад

'the west crossed one of his red lines, we knew to be a red line'. What a lame argument. one country cannot dictate what another does. the people of ukraine want freedom and democracy and have been dying for it for decades now. If dictators decide a red line to be 'let me do whatever the hell I want to my smaller neighboors' than the west should be proud they crossed it. these people are dying daily for the rights we take for granted everyday. to help them is to be on the good side.

@Daniel-ds4oq 2 месяца назад

He seemed to brush past the Azov battalion, would love to have more clarity on that

@danilabezmenov3489 2 месяца назад

Azov indeed started as a right-leaning paramilitary group under Beletsky when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. It was later absorbed into official Ukraine military and was reformed with the far right ideology weeded out. Many people who were initially there stayed though as they felt their duty was to fight for Ukraine's independence. Many of them had rough youth, as was mentioned (soccer hooligans, mostly of the Metallist team), used to support right ideologies and definitely are still nationalists. Of course those people still have their tattoos from their previous periods including some runes or swastikas. Through the years I did not see any significant evidence of the battalion being involved in anything remotely inhumane or outrageous you would expect from real "nazis", unless you consider their participation in some nationalist marches or fighting russian military to be such. They indeed were used as a scarecrow by russian propaganda along with right sector, but that is pretty much it. Fun fact is that majority of their core was formed from Russian speaking Ukrainians from east-southern (more russian-leaning) part of the country. So, I wonder what sources of information did you use to form your opinion on them? Did those sources include any evidence that was clearly not a fabrication or exaggeration? No hostility here, just interested in how you perceive them?

@Daniel-ds4oq 2 месяца назад

@@danilabezmenov3489 I appreciate the information. Tbh I don't have much of an opinion of them. I have heard that they are a neo-nazi group from multiple outlets, but I don't trust any outlet fully. I just felt that it would have been useful for them to go into more specifics on the Azovs since it is a huge talking point for opposition to supporting Ukraine. I personally don't have much opinion on this conflict other than America should not be funding it, or any other foreign war. I do think NATOs encroachment on Russia's sphere of influence is a provocation, and I don't believe Putin has intentions of European or global domination, but I am open to opposing views and facts that could change my current outlook

@jetzenijeboer4854 2 месяца назад

When you are fighting for your very existence, you can not afford to be picky on who's your ally. In WW2, the west allied with stalin. Not because they where ideologically on the same page, but because they had no choice.

@superstraightbyzantophile726 2 месяца назад

@@jetzenijeboer4854 No choice. We had no choice to arm and fund Naz*s. To hell will discussion, diplomacy, compromise and treaties, lets just give the Naz*s our weapons and money and let them terrorise and kill people. The Naz* apologetics and whitewashing since this war started has been wild. And to the Naz* apologist danila, the Ternopil City Council in 2021 named its major sporting stadium after Roman Shukhevych, a Naz* collaborator infamous for murdering over 100000 poles and jews. The Ukraine government to this day still honours and celebrates those people in the names of their streets, public venues and statues. don't try to pretend the Naz* presence in Ukraine is insignificant or not government sanctioned. Oh, but they're 'not real Naz*s' despite their swastika tattoos...hilarious.

@vaultsjan 2 месяца назад

Go look at Utkin's tattoos and look what Wagner did to Ukraine and look for what Azov is now.

@edg7636 2 месяца назад

Sam, you just seem to wander further and further off the reservation

@Jules-Was-a-Christian 2 месяца назад

Speaking of Azov, I actually have a cool tat from my favorite band Soundgarden, like a South Asian symbol (guitarist is Indian American). I was disturbed that Nazis occasionally used a similar version, Soundgarden's is subtly distinct, the Indian and Jewish guys in band might have been "reclaiming" somewhat. I considered getting removed, but negative connotation was little known, figured it was fine. Until the goddam Azov battalion, and the "black sun" became more recognizable, now I probably gotta do an expensive, painful tat removal. FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS.

@irongron 2 месяца назад

Yea but why has the Kiss logo never been a problem ? the double SS's in Kiss are EXACTLY like the Nazi SS font.

@Jules-Was-a-Christian 2 месяца назад

@@irongron Trewth.

@jakeroper1096 2 месяца назад

@@Jules-Was-a-Christianget the band name printed around it if ur worried. Good excuse to add something.

@China_Secret_Police 2 месяца назад

Or you could just educate the ignorant about what the Sonnenrad means? That's like service members feeling they have to worry about being subjected to attack due to racists thinking a military regulation high and tight haircut is a "racist" sign. You can't live in fear due to the uneducated and violent. There's always some inference/interpretations that other people like to project on others.

@Jules-Was-a-Christian 2 месяца назад

@@China_Secret_Police Hah for sure, I just don't wanna go to the beach or whatever where ppl see tat, and get scared cause they think I'm some Nazi.

@thenecessitarian 2 месяца назад

There is no conceivable or inconceivable scenario which was confined to their borders that could, morally, justify anyone invading Ukraine. So... The nazi thing being true or false is not relevant to the discussion whatsoever.

@mkh123 2 месяца назад

It's false and also not relevant. The nationalist militias were formed as a response to the russian invasion in 2014, and not the other way around.

@allydea 2 месяца назад

This interview has diminished my respect for the Pulitzer Prize.

@firasbouhamdan9917 2 месяца назад

What's the problem with this interview?:)

@allydea 2 месяца назад

@@firasbouhamdan9917 Well, when you've been immersed into a topic like I have for the past 2 years, it's easy to spot the knowledgeable from the ignorant. And both interlocutors here are pretty ignorant. One was a finalist for the Pulitzer prize, hence the disappointment.

@firasbouhamdan9917 2 месяца назад

@@allydea so tell us about your "knowledge":), what did they say that was incorrect?

@allydea 2 месяца назад

@@firasbouhamdan9917 Pick a 5 minute segment and I'll try to identify something.

@firasbouhamdan9917 2 месяца назад

@@allydea pick any idea, you don't remember what you didn't like?:)

@dezurniprovokator373 2 месяца назад

Dear listeners! Do you think Sam Harris hit rocks bottom, or he can go lower?

@TheMithridates 2 месяца назад

Russian shovels continue to advance, will nobody stop them!?

@yog-sothoth37 2 месяца назад

They are not advancing. The are retreating forward..

@radscorpion8 2 месяца назад

so do they pay you in rubles or do you willingly shill for a dictator, just out of curiosity

@swaggitypigfig8413 2 месяца назад

A shovel is neither Russian nor American. It is simply a tool made with a handle and a metallic end.

@VColossalV 21 день назад

Who will stop Israel?!

@ogi4ever1 2 месяца назад

Good goood gooood

@user-zm4vq6cc3k 2 месяца назад

12:30 As a person from Russia, this is literally the first time I'm hearing about the motivation to annex Ukraine coming from the need to reclaim the heritage of Kievan Rus 😶

@user-ow6bq9mm4i 2 месяца назад

Listen to your owner Putin, he's blubbering about this to anyone to is ready to listen.

@godisbollocks 2 месяца назад

Yeeeeew!

@user-kd8jx9ze9u 2 месяца назад

This is actually a losing case for you , Sam, because it’s Ukrainians who are way more religious, most Russians was completely secularized during Soviet, and Ukrainians wasn’t

@vaultsjan 2 месяца назад

Cant speak for Sam but he does not come over as genocidal against religious people.

@user-kd8jx9ze9u 2 месяца назад

@@vaultsjan I agree, he’s rather moderate atheist. I referred to one portion of conversation where he was trying to figure out the role of the Orthodox Church in all that, it’s huge, but also super interesting how the relationship between church, state and society is soooo different than here

@vaultsjan 2 месяца назад

@@user-kd8jx9ze9u Myth claims that Vladimir of Kyiv wanted something to consolidate commonality, in a sense its been always a state tool. In modern day russia, its arm of GRU/imperial (next 1000 year reich) government. Very similar to WWII cult.

@transmogrification245 2 месяца назад

Why are just having people on who ALWAYS agree with you at least tangentially. It’s just propaganda.

@juniperpruniper4935 2 месяца назад

I mean,, it was a good exercise in speaking english.

@Yesuah-bendav1d 2 месяца назад

Two chosen ones discussing war

@Jmriccitelli 2 месяца назад

Bolshevik

@gmatic8230 2 месяца назад

Pretty decent episode. Yaroslav deflecting on the Neo-Nazi point was notable though.

@bigolboomerbelly4348 2 месяца назад

It's russian propaganda. There never was any nazi threat in Ukraine. Culturally russians obsess over nazis

@firasbouhamdan9917 2 месяца назад

Where did he deflect?:)

@gmatic8230 2 месяца назад

@@firasbouhamdan9917 starts at 15:23 but Yaroslav goes on to say that “Azov has changed” and then goes on to provide an extremely charitable interpretation of the groups current ideological position based on its own words rather than an objective analysis. But frankly, the analysis isn’t even that deep when the SS regimental emblem is still used in the groups promotiona material in 2024.

@firasbouhamdan9917 2 месяца назад

@@gmatic8230 yes, he did say they changed so he didn't deflect, he answered the question:), either you believe him or you don't

@phl4423 2 месяца назад

sam harris "jews cant be nazis" ... oh boy how his intellect declined over the years.. rofl

@kh-nw8gq Месяц назад

Sorry, but that was a softball Interview. What about: 1. The US backed toppling of democratically elected Janukowizsch in the maidan revolution? 2. Previous Nato-Enlargements establishing a patern? 3. Why would Nato declare Ukraine will join if they had no intentions of following through? 4. Blinkens famous response to Putins open letter declaring his red line a few days befor the war began: "There is no change, there will be no change!" ? 5. The alleged peace-deal stopped by Boris Johnson? Step it up, sir!

@bigolboomerbelly4348 2 месяца назад

It's sounds genocidal.

@kopyloffandrew 2 месяца назад

ha, I live here🥲

@franky12 2 месяца назад

I really like the podcast and Sam Harris' interview guests. But his subscription model is outrageous. 15 bucks a MONTH, is he crazy? I'll NEVER pay that much just for a podcast. NEVER. Period. Per year would be my maximum pain threshold. Sam is just ONE of many podcasts that I listen to. What if every youtuber started using this kind of subscription model? Nobody wants to pay that unless money is no longer an issue for them. In addition, my government forces me to pay a painful amount of money for its own state propaganda. If Sam can change my government's mind, I would be happy to give him this money. If Sam Harris wants to get his ideas out to the people and fight against "bad ideas", he should think about his pricing model. Just my two cents.

@vaultsjan 2 месяца назад

If its too much for you, email them and they grant you free access.

@pete798 2 месяца назад

To add to @vaultsjan's point, Sam also talks a lot about the problems with the ad model and his reasons for not using it. You should check it out - you'd probably find it fascinating. In the end, I think it's a little hard to criticise a model whereby you can be granted a free account just by requesting it via email. Just my two cents though!

@jmc5335 2 месяца назад

@@pete798I find it easy to criticise as it's a model that shows his hypocrisy

@pete798 2 месяца назад

@@jmc5335 How so?

@polvoazul 2 месяца назад

@@jmc5335 what hypocrisy?

@yetanotheryoutuber4271 2 месяца назад

Sam, you really need to offer your podcasts for free - get sponsored. I know why you don't want to but you are preaching to the converted. Only those interested in your podcasts are going to give you $100, and those who aren't are the ones who need to hear them the most. But I can never share these glorious and useful conversations because they hide behind a paywall, that the ignorant will never pass. Such a shame.

@denisbainbridge4813 2 месяца назад

…& 30-40 minutes of any episode is not enough for them to decide that it could be worth paying to hear?

@yetanotheryoutuber4271 2 месяца назад

@@denisbainbridge4813 They will disagree with them initially , so they need the full podcasts to convince them, and no-one pays for stuff they disagree with. I can't present an argument that's half baked.

@pete798 2 месяца назад

@@yetanotheryoutuber4271All fair points, but again, all people need to do is request a free account. He explicitly says that he never wants money to be the reason people can't listen to his podcasts. More valid criticism could be that he needs to make this fact more widely known, because as you said, his valuable work needs to be consumed by as many people as possible! I also think he deserves to have people pay for his work, in much the same way as nobody expects to get an author's latest novel for free, or an album, etc (noting that one podcast is obviously a lot less content than one novel, but I'm sure you get my point).

@yetanotheryoutuber4271 2 месяца назад

@@pete798 He can get money from his sponsor/advertiser, that's how it works. Yes, people can sign up for free but it is so much easier just to send them a link to a full instant episode, they will listen but necessarily go to the lengths of signing up just to listen to an opposing opinion.

@benspaludariums2500 2 месяца назад

Sam has 666k subscribers. Existence of the Devil is confirmed.

@justgivemethetruth 2 месяца назад

Sure, at least for the week or whatever period that number holds. Such an amazing analysis.

@benspaludariums2500 2 месяца назад

@@justgivemethetruth Sense of humour: Not detected

@NotSure723 2 месяца назад

"Wall St Journal" -And you think you can actually have an intellectually honest conversation with this person???

@georgekleinfelter7041 2 месяца назад

That’s the best you’ve got? Not engaging with anything he said but just stating where he works? Do you really believe you’re convincing anyone with an argument as pitiful as this? And how does someone’s mind end up where yours has: i.e., somehow imagining that you’ve made a trenchant point.

@NotSure723 2 месяца назад

@@georgekleinfelter7041 A "That’s the best you’ve got?" -Nope, but it's a valid statement none the less. "Not engaging with anything he said but just stating where he works?" -Just because I didn't, doesn't mean I won't. "Do you really believe you’re convincing anyone with an argument as pitiful as this?" -It's not an argument, it's a question, and not an unwarranted one. "And how does someone’s mind end up where yours has: i.e., somehow imagining that you’ve made a trenchant point." -Easy, by observing all the dishonestly coming out of main stream media. How does someone's mind end up where yours has, were you actually thing MSM is trustworthy? Smh.

@georgekleinfelter7041 2 месяца назад

@@NotSure723 So your argument amounts to: "Sam Harris' guest [who has literally been on the front lines of the war in Ukraine] was lying because CNN has lied in the past." Life isn't going to be an easy journey for you. Best of luck.

@SacClass650 2 месяца назад

"There's no need to explain what values we are defending to [those] who, instead of two bathrooms in schools (one for girls and one for boys), have seen three bathrooms: one for girls, one for boys, and one for gender-neutral people".

@radscorpion8 2 месяца назад

yeah that totally justifies invading another country and killing hundreds of thousands of people, stealing children, and torturing civilians

@SacClass650 2 месяца назад

@@brian5001 OK?

@wasneeplus 2 месяца назад

What a bizarre statement. It really puts into perspective how petty the culture wars are compared to the existential struggle of the people of Ukraine.

@SacClass650 2 месяца назад

@@wasneeplus On the contrary, your inability to comprehend what it is that the statement encompasses is bizarre, and emblematic. Indeed, the subject of the comment does not concern Ukraine _per_ _se_ and moreover, culture is of profound importance.

@wasneeplus 2 месяца назад

@@SacClass650 is that so? Well, enlighten me about how gender neutral toilets, silly as they may be, cause more harm than waging total war.

@user-gy1pu3gq3d 2 месяца назад

Where can I find the discussion of the 2014 coup engineered by the CIA?

@williampatton7476 2 месяца назад

Russian TV

@stream2watch 2 месяца назад

On some conspiracy n-ut forums where people are easily riled and the low info types congregate.

@user-gy1pu3gq3d 2 месяца назад

@@stream2watch You think it didn't happen? You can like the revolutions that we spearhead, but why pretend that we're not doing it?

@stream2watch 2 месяца назад

@@user-gy1pu3gq3d You think it happened because you have a simple mind. Also, who are the "we" in your statement?

@user-gy1pu3gq3d 2 месяца назад

@@stream2watch Who blew up Nordstream? Russia?

@1971spots 2 месяца назад

In a nutshell tis is a continuation of your policy to not have an intellectually honest conversation about our foreign policy and Ukraine.

@skre1170 2 месяца назад

Sam Harris is always so far behind ... On everything.

@davew2040x 2 месяца назад

Is this just a general musing on life or is there some specific motivation for this comment?

@justgivemethetruth 2 месяца назад

@@davew2040x Being a clown is probably enough for him.

@Alex-pg1gt 2 месяца назад

Why would one ask biased Ukrainian about Russian society?

@Jole30 2 месяца назад

The propaganda is going strong i hear...

@jeremytine 2 месяца назад

In Moscow? Yep

@Jole30 2 месяца назад

@@jeremytine In the west.. But blind people will not see it.. Thats just reallity.. Not denying that Moscow does their part but in this case its our propaganda.. They were not spreading Russian propaganda but Nato/West propaganda

@johanwagner_sweden 2 месяца назад

I find this talk unusually un-curious. Questions and answers uncomfortably aligned. There are no nuance just good and evil. I was hoping for more “making sense”. Nazis i Ukraine is marginal but Quenon is a big problem etc.

@Mac-ku3xu 2 месяца назад

We want to hear from Jeffrey Sachs, Mearsheimer, Scott Ritter, Glenn Greenwald, The Duran. But of course, anyone not parroting DC doctrine is a "Putin apologist".

@yog-sothoth37 2 месяца назад

Sam despises Glenn Grrenwald, so not happening. Scott? Scott is too fast paced and dominant in his way of presenting. I'm pretty sure Sam wouldn't like that. Jeffrey and John are perfect guests, but it seems Sam is not interested. Col. Douglas Macgreggor might be a good choice as well.

@Mac-ku3xu 2 месяца назад

@@yog-sothoth37Agreed on Macgregor. It's very telling that Sam despises Greenwald - the most honest, moral and competent journalist in America.

@danilabezmenov3489 2 месяца назад

@@Mac-ku3xu , seriously dude? they had a beef years ago when Greenwald consciously and repeatedly distorted Sam's views. So much for most honest and moral journalist.

@stream2watch 2 месяца назад

We do not. Scott is a convicted child groommer. Mearsheimer is caught in a logical trap about China being the ultimate enemy. The others are even more irrelevant. You forgot k-ook McGregor btw

@Mac-ku3xu 2 месяца назад

@@danilabezmenov3489Yes dude. Greenwald is the best journalist in America, and Sam just mindlessly repeats neocon pro-war propaganda.

@blinertasholli1280 2 месяца назад

Sam stoooop! 😂 Why do you keep running into this dumb situations? This man is not addressing no central argument. - Did Nato really say no to Russia when putin asked if they could eventually join? - Did america and England brake the initial negotiations and what would those have been? - Does Russia really want to rebuilt the USSR or they really just don't want Nato in the Ukraine. - Could Ukraine eventually really win without foreign paramilitary groups, and eventually Nato state troops... (They will run out of people) You are just making marketing campaign for the war machine at this point.

@Jole30 2 месяца назад

Once upon a time Sam was a rebel but nowdays he is just a goverment shill..Sad to see.

@yog-sothoth37 2 месяца назад

@@Jole30I blame it all on Trump. He really, I mean REALLY broke Sam's brain apart. He was never the same after that. I still enjoy listening to him, though.

@georgekleinfelter7041 2 месяца назад

He will not stop, thankfully. But, fortunately for you, you can always attend a Trump rally or watch him speak incoherently on RU-vid so you’re all set.

@blinertasholli1280 2 месяца назад

@@georgekleinfelter7041 I live in Germany my friend. I just want to see people trying to defeat their own belifs. Sam did this almost the whole time: - This crazy peope say this crazy thing (insert strawman), what would you say to those stupid people? I hate Trump for his populism and the ideas he helped put in some people's minds (bad ideas and preconceptions) that made them truly hate their neighbors.

@georgekleinfelter7041 2 месяца назад

@@blinertasholli1280If I were conducting this interview, I would do it precisely as Sam Harris did it. As his guest said, there has probably not been a war since World War II with this much moral clarity. (Did you see Putin's interview with Tucker Carlson? He even utilizes the same arguments Hitler used for invading Poland and blames the Poles for Germany's invasion of their country!) There are some instances -- and this is definitely one of them -- where "defeating" what your eyes are telling you is self-defeating. When it comes to indicting Putin for what he has done in Ukraine, I can't even imagine what a "straw man" argument would look like because his actions have been 100 percent indefensible. There is no case to be made for Putin's behavior and the interview was therefore conducted completely appropriately. If there were ever a circumstance in which it would be a very good idea not to get caught up in navel-gazing, solipsistic notions of how cool it is to see people defeat their own arguments, this is it.

@TheJZP 2 месяца назад

If Ukraine was a Muslim country Sam would back Russia %100

@Jaydizzle4eva 2 месяца назад

So would I. Nationalism not quite as bizarre as religiosity.

@TheJZP 2 месяца назад

@@Jaydizzle4eva nationalism is just as "bizarre" if you boil it down far enough you'll eventually say.. "that's what I believe" to believe in something without evidence is faith.. you are a religious person you just haven't realized it yet.

@denisbainbridge4813 2 месяца назад

Does not follow.

@edn8539 2 месяца назад

inviting an Ukrainian to talk about the war in Ukraine maybe wasn’t the wisest choice….

@yog-sothoth37 2 месяца назад

It wouldn't have been a bad choice if it was followed by a podcast with a Russian guy. But we all know that's not happening.

@user-gy1pu3gq3d 2 месяца назад

It's like some people were today years old when they discovered that Sam is a thinly disguised propagandist.

@yog-sothoth37 2 месяца назад

@@user-gy1pu3gq3d He was much more subtle back in the day, though.

@user-gy1pu3gq3d 2 месяца назад

@@yog-sothoth37 He was, but that was 10 years ago.

@skoky76 2 месяца назад

Why? During ww2 you would invite nazis to “balance”?

@soshalek 2 месяца назад

wow

@00Julian00 2 месяца назад

Could you speak to Scott Ritter and Norman Finkelstein?

@YogGroove 2 месяца назад

You mean have a well rounded set of perspectives? That's not Sam. Sam LARPs IDW but is a NeoCon shill deep down.

@yog-sothoth37 2 месяца назад

A convo with Scott would be absolutely impossible, since Scott is very fast paced and likes to talk. With Norman it might be interesting, but the guy is nuts and hates the Jews more than Hamas themselves.

@swaggitypigfig8413 2 месяца назад

Both of these sound like you got them from a random name generator.

@RaviRathore7 2 месяца назад

Better option would be either from THE DURAN. Alexander is highly informed on this topic and even calls out Russia sometimes for their bullshit.

@EzraB123 2 месяца назад

Norman Finkelstein is a delusional kapo

@jonnieinbangkok 2 месяца назад

Slava Rossiya 🇷🇺 #FUkraine #MAGA2024

@DS-rd9qn 2 месяца назад

Shh Putin.

@jonnieinbangkok 2 месяца назад

@@DS-rd9qn Shh Uniparty talking points 🙄

@dezurniprovokator373 2 месяца назад

What happens with your steel- manning Sam? Why you are not going to invite guest like Jeffrey Sachs on this topic ? Or your bosses need to approved first?

@wasneeplus 2 месяца назад

Puppets of the Russian government are also not usually invited on this podcast.

@Randomish21 2 месяца назад

Ukrain is losing just taking longer because us keeps wasting money in ukrain

@WhataMensch 2 месяца назад

Are you still making excuses for the genocide in Gaza Sam?

@Elmucaroarrebatao 2 месяца назад

Please explain the similarities between the Genocide in Rwanda and the supposedly “genocide” in Gaza? From the prelude before the attacks, and the actions in it self? @jonhelgiorarinsson8574 hahahaha.... Someone deleted my reply. You can't tell the obvious? Of course is going to be more death due to the length of the conflict, plus the population density in the area. How ironic is life. I look for the meaning of the word "diaspora" and the concept was first used for the Jews. From the same people in the area. Free the Palestine? Shit, Israel is the only place in the region that a woman can go by herself, not changing anything about her behavior coming from western ideas or freedom, dress how she feels like it and compete with men in business. All other countries women still have to be put in "their place". They voted for Hamas. Is kind of smart having a culture that constantly chants "From the river to the sea" in perpetual vigilance. I won't even let a man get close enough if he is screaming threats.... If Israel had the same genocidal attitudes and definitions as the Nazis or the Hutus, and would act accordingly. You don't get to change the true meaning of the term just because it fits your emotions

@jonhelgiorarinsson8574 2 месяца назад

Funny that you mention Rwanda because that is the statistic we are at now, todays murder of civilians in Gaza has not been higher in any so called "conflict" in the world since then. And it is true, the oppression, the robbing of lands and other property and the genocide that Israel is in the process of committing is better planned and they have taken longer time, but it is no different. @@Elmucaroarrebatao

@swaggitypigfig8413 2 месяца назад

You have no disciprine. True disciprine come from within.

@swaggitypigfig8413 2 месяца назад

Ain’t nothing going on in Gaza right now, they’re all paid actors.

@Elmucaroarrebatao 2 месяца назад

@@jonhelgiorarinsson8574 where is the narratives of all the hate from the Israeli to the Palestine? All the blaming for all the world’s problems to the Palestine? When I look at raw history from a perspective of a stranger, a Caribbean, I see that the first group of people to be thrown out of their land and persecuted for life, it has been the Jewish. When I look at the meaning of the word “diaspora” it was first use to describe the Jewish reality. Of course more people are going to die due to the length of the conflict and more density of people in an area, that’s obvious. My point is that if the actions are really the meaning of the concept of “genocide” how it has been executed throughout all history(until woke people changed the definition) the Palestines would have been all wiped out off existence already. Don’t you know the technology Israel has in weaponry? The amount? They would have use the Palestinian, Arab chant “From the river to the see” to bulldoze them out. Instead, Israel is the only place in the Middle East(Thanks to western ideas) that a woman can live life exactly like in any country in the west. Without any persecution in how to behave by the government. How ironic, the liberty angle…

@YogGroove 2 месяца назад

Sam has never met a "current thing" he wouldn't shill for..... Putin is under your bed, Sam!

@yog-sothoth37 2 месяца назад

Wherever he is, Putin will never live rent free in Sam's head as Trump does!

@CirclesForever 2 месяца назад

I gather "current thing" is a new Conservative thought stopping cliche?

@kostya_stankevych 2 месяца назад

@@CirclesForever careful, you're talking with "independent" thinker right here.

@YogGroove 2 месяца назад

@@CirclesForever Your name appears to indicate how conversations go with you. Actually, I believe it originated with a Leftie, but ignore that it's pointing to something real and stay on the treadmill of retardation at your own peril.

@toby9999 2 месяца назад

Please don't be so fk'in stupid.

@elruss1 2 месяца назад

Safe to ignore this rubbish.

@WhataMensch 2 месяца назад

Do you still defend the genocidal IDF in Gaza Sam?

@swaggitypigfig8413 2 месяца назад

What’s not to defend? 🤔

@swaggitypigfig8413 2 месяца назад

There is nothing called Gaza. It’s a made up fictional place promoted by Round Earth propagandists. You are clearly too much of a dodo to realize that. 😮