5 Myths about Israel and the War in Gaza (Episode  

Let them fund UNRWA. The Egyptian Yasser Arafat amassed $1Billion from his grift, pretending to fight for liberation.

it doesn't matter - they playing you. doesn't matter if the political leadership is there and the militant leadership is there. they all think the same and work toward the same evil goal

I'm sorry, but are you talking about Israel or the Palestinians?@@explore-n

clearly the palastinians. their corruption is known around the world. on the same level of curruption in iran and russia@@dougmorrow746

It's not like the prophet Muhammad volunteered to martyr himself for his cause. He got suckers to do that for him.

Most Muslims are not the problem and peaceful! But if 25% that are not, are a BIG problem. They do need to be addressed ASAP

Judaism is where Islam gets its violence from. The torah and talmud also command the believers to murder and rape, and as we see both abrahamic zealots currently follow those orders- except harris only has concern for one of these groups of zealots

Do you think it's unpreventable that our countries will clash ? 😢. I have many Iranian friends from previous student exchanges, and am aware of the sentiment of the people vs the government. I love them very much. Some of them even tole me straight up Iran must eventually be dealt with. I can't imagine how painful it must to speak of your own country in such terms. Is there no hope of a peaceful change of regime in your opinion?

I wish I could say the same about Pakistan too. It has been state propaganda since 1980 in Pakistan it is default position of everyone. Our government and people are pretty much on same page. Just condemning H*m*s once and then focusing all attention on Is*ael alone is not enough. Why don't they call back Pakistanis who work in Qatar or any country that funds H*m*s? Why don't they boycott all Arab countries that support them? Why only boycotting Is*ael? Why was there criminal silence for first 3 to 4 days when attack began even though videos were circulating all over the internet? And millions of them only took to the street as soon as Israel began its action? Edit: I just wanna say Sam Harris is one of the few intellectuals who sees how much religion has to do with all of it. I have ordered his book End of Faith which is supposed to arrive this week.

“…he does not mention Israeli settlements on the West..” How can Israel be a “colonizer” of its own land? Under international law the principle of _Uti Possidetis Juris_ all of the land within Mandatory Palestine which was agreed to by the League of Nations in 1922 belongs to Israel. Don’t understand that legal concept? There’s another way to view ownership. When the 1948 war concluded with an armistice the Jordanian army controlled the West Bank, and two days later Jordan annexed the land. In 1967 Jordan attacked Israel, lost, and Israel took control of the land. While it is a violation of international law to acquire land as the aggressor in a war, it is not illegal to do so as a victim of aggression.

Right? Israel does not relent in it's violence.

I want to watch a debate between a Rabbi and Imam that would allow for mockery of the other's theology

@@darebearxpoeticjustice Cute! But false and if you don’t understand that then that’s on you. Dare you to actually read history.

How do you reason with a groups that it's leadership resides in Qatar which is the main US ally in the region ? 😅

You mean like Zionist settlers?

Very tidy indeed, easy because Sam fails to mention anything about the origins of Isreal, please watch 1948: Creation and Catastrophe, free on RU-vid. And this is the way we all have been brainwashed into thinking Isreal is just defending itself. They have been the aggressor from the start and it was a bad deal that is finally falling apart completely. Learn the actual history, not the propaganda, and certainly not Sam's smart but myopic anti-jihadist line. As Sam himself here says, there are many contributing factors that make up a conflict, but he is not even allowing the basis for this conflict which begins with a Zionist campaign that was exactly terrorism from the get go, look up the 1946 bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in which 91 people were killed, it was organized by Menachem Begin as Israel’s prime minister. Begin was only the first of the continuous right wing Zionists who are frank exponents of Jewish supremacism and who continue to rule Israel right this minute. I have used Sam's waking up ap for 3 years now, and I will not be renewing it again. I love all the guests he has on, but I can find them elsewhere. I find his guided meditations to be as strident as his thinking on this very critical moment of crisis. He has a lot to offer in criticizing Jihadism and nothing to offer in criticizing this other "lunatic ideology" which the US government backs.

That's a great business idea! 😅

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sadly, even woke harvard people are more level headed about this topic than sam harris is

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Oh my goodness...

or that that he would've seen thousands of palestinian civlians, many having never gone through due process, tortured and mutilated in isreali prisons. Harris is out of his mind. This conflict goes back way before jihadism, and Israel is commiting actual genocide live on tv

Shouldn't this be an example of the intentionality of extreme Islam? I'm struggling with understanding if a majority of the world - which includes non-Muslim supporters - is just plain bad or stupid. It's as if they cannot be reasoned with for the sake of a better world.

There's more of us than the propaganda war run by Iran and Qatar might make it seem

Or the majority of the international community condemning Israeli actions?

yet he ignores the atrocities comitted by the IDF labelling them "mistakes and poor judgement" and that war crimes will "eventually" happen..they have already happened.

​@@inbox0000Can you say one thing that your community did wrong? It is shocking that you people have never own up to anything. Nothing is your fault. The rest of the world is ALWAYS at fault. Any culture that is lacking in self-awareness self-reflection and self-criticism cannot prosper.

​@@inbox0000 The key difference is that mistakes and poor judgement are inevitable, even with the best of intention, whereas the systematic and deliberate targeting of non-combatants, or pursuit of jihad/martyrdom are intrinsically detrimental. There will always be isolated rogue actors (when there is sufficient tension as with this situation) and humans always make occasional mistakes and in war, that can have terrible consequences. To see the difference, consider Sam's point at the end about what the world would look like if each group had total power. If Hamas had total power, automatic genocide and/or enslavement of all Israelis.... Israel essentially has total military power, yet less than 1pc of Palestinians are dead in 6 months of war.

It's not obvious at all. Why would you say that. This perspective has been buried by a deluge of disinformation and propaganda coming from the Iran-Hamas axis. And even without that nonsense, some of these details still wouldn't be obvious to people who do not know the history or follow the conduct relatively carefully.

We only realised when your mother's womb got full of dirt 😎

I think so much of it is the West's evolution into religious tolerance which makes them believe they are being politically correct though they are truly being intimidated.

@liberalegypt, I am an atheist, also from the Levant. You are absolutely correct, and I wish more people were aware of the agenda of world domination that Islam has always propagated. If one is a true believer of Islam, one has to embrace Jihad, and it's all downhill from there. I wish there were 2 billion non-religionists who understood that. There are a lot of westerners who are dealing with white guilt, who divide the world into oppressor and oppressed, just by color of skin or place of birth. There is so much ignorance, it is depressing. The extremists of Judaism mirror Hamas, but there are fewer of them - as yet. Let's hope their numbers remain small. Thank you for speaking truth.

@@NothingButGoodStuff "There is so much ignorance, it is depressing." I bitch about this all the damn time!

It is the double-edged sword of preventing hate speech. It is valuable when trying to prevent the demonizing of people who do no harm to others, but it also prevents demonizing actual demons.

" The first time the phrase “human animal” was recorded in history was by himmaliar, in The Posen speech to SS officers (6 October 1943) - On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians. Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1 According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1 When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1 From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower. The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest. The reported ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 civilians 13-17: 14 civilians 18-25: 132 civilians 26-40: 119 civilians 41-60: 55 civilians 61+: 40 civilians Active duty military personnel: 18-25: 258 active duty military personnel 26-40: 60 active duty military personnel 41-60: 17 active duty military personnel 61+: 1 active duty military personnel haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%" -Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well' -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband' Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023: 2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440. 2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255. 2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492. 2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300. 2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138. 2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30. 2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349. 2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191. 2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227. civilian deaths on the other side - 2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9 2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26 Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel. Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Yinon Plan.

Holocaust denial doesn’t prove that the Holocaust didn’t happen, it only shows that you deny facts with your fake news. Denying the barbaric nature of the crimes of the Muslims of Gaza is the same.

🙏 for your family, I can’t imagine. I agree, 100%. People need to educate themselves because they won’t get it from the MSM.

@@mznxbcv12345you must be an accountant, you can do anything with statistics and get your information from any source. Propaganda!

@@mznxbcv12345 Hamas are classified as terrorists, how can anyone defend them?

Fundamentalism is a Christian concept. There's a similar concept in islam but it is called Salafist Forgive me but ... If you were a to fundamentalist Christian, I am struggling to think of which denomination is anti-war. That's not a common feature in Christianity. Exception: Quakers. I know no other religion that has any equivalent to fundamentalism.

Replace "It" with "Israel", and "you are" with "all Palestinians". There, fixed it for ya.

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Sam is a World Champion Pseudo intellectual. Sammy The Pseudo Harris.

@@CP-nl2zbyou have 100+ comments on this channel, I assume they are all of the same character, you cannot be a real person.

Right. So hearing someone try to justify offing younglings as not evil in the first 10 mins of his video is refreshing to you?

​@@CP-nl2zbpersonal attack with no actual commentary on the content. Is that really what you want to go with?

​@@donnmckee4973is that what you heard? Because that's not really what he said.

Not sure if this is a sarcastic slight but is funny if it is

​@@andrewm4767it's not

​@andrewm4767 what's sarcastic here? I can only see your comment with undertone.

@@peterhel1077 I’m sure every Zionist on earth is aware of Sam Harris- let’s not try and add anymore followers

​@@LeoDeBrowne He might of lost all credibility and audience in the eyes of all conspiracy theorists who believe facebook posts and not medical professionals. It's only good thing they have their tin foil hat gatherings elsewhere.

@@tamhiker1 what a croc. Over 2m arabs living well in Israel.

@@tamhiker1 As I wrote, they are living well.

@tamhiker1 let me tell you something, 1. I won't let anyone tell me how to self identify. Our druze community won't let overlord muslim arabs control how we see ourself. The title arabs was bestow on us a subjection/colonization. There is a term for Arab colonization.. it's called Arabization! I say no more! If the middle eastern jews managed to decolonize themselves from being looked as arabs! So will we the druze people. 2. As an israeli Druze, jewish Israelis are not our enemy, our villages often are as close as 1-2 km from jewish villages and towns and they never attack us, they never force anything upon us, they live among us in peace and don't ask us to convert or be subjected to their way of lives the way muslims always trying to convert everyone to islam or arabization. The jews let us be, as they let the Christians and Muslims villages within 5 KM to us alone. This is why jews all over the world is 15 million, no history of oppressing and force converting others. How do you think islam expanded? Do you know basic islam history? Let alone arabazing native indigenous groups like druze by arabs. Zero respect to others, yet tell themselves their a religion of peace. Only peaceful Muslims I know live in israel and are good people with no desire to convert the rest of us to islam. The same cannot be said about fundamental islamist in Iran, Lebanon, Gaza, etc. 3. I live in a town in North israel, where my ancestors have lived for over 1200 years, we live on a mountain overlooking Lebanon, when Islamist Hezballah shoot rockets into Israel that fly to our village, they don't consider that these rockets fall on Druze, chirstain, jewish or Muslim towns. And often the only thing between our homes and ancient towns built thousands of years ago being destoried by islamist rockets is israeli technology and israeli soliders risking their life to protect all of us. So weather israeli jews fully see me as an Arab or not, I can guarantee you they will 1. Not treat me differently to how they treat themselves. 2. Risk their own life to protect my home, my small children and my elderly parents. You need to understand that 99% of the media you are seeing online is either Qatari propaganda or American propaganda. On the ground, day to day, the reality is very different. 99% of minorities including Muslim beduins in israel, support Israel. And are as much part of israeli society as jewish.

@@tamhiker1 I misunderstood your last response. Those in the west bank are living horrifically. If you want to blame Israel for that then there really isn't much to discuss. I'll just point out that I don't know what Israel could do in light of the fact that the only goal of the "Palestinians" since 48 (and really, even before that) has been to rid the entire region of Jews. They have been pretty clear about that in words and in action. So what can Isreal possibly do? And by the way, my original comment was to yours about Israelis seeing the OP as an Arab and the implication that he was somehow subordinate. Its still a croc.

@@tamhiker1 I don't mean this to be condescending but is awareness of this conflict fairly new to you? The Pals have rejected two state solutions over and over again. As mentioned before, their goal is to rid the region of the Jews. Even when given the ability to govern themselves (there hasn't been a Jew in Gaza since 2006)....well, you saw the results in Gaza. They took the billions they received in foreign aid and instead of growing their economy and building infrastructure, they built terror tunnels and terrorists. The reason they live the way they do is twofold. 1. They are a certain security risk for Israel. If you can't see that then you are willfully ignoring reality. 2. Their ability to get responsible leadership in place has never come to fruition; beginning with Arafat and down through the years. "There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us" - Golda Meir. Hasn't happened yet.

So if there is a known terrorist in a football stadium, do Israel bomb it? What about a busy cafe, apartment block, or a hospital, or a bus... Israel is not open about how it determines each situation. There's a line somewhere, and the equation does include body count...

Sam Harris doesn't understand it either after more than 10000 children killed and wounded by israel.

Anything to feel better about the 28,000 dead and 2,000,000 starving am I right? What about the IDF blowing up unoccupied UN built schools? The IDF destroying all Universities in Gaza. Completely leveling the North (literally every structure). What about the IDF shooting tank rounds at press in Lebanon killing 1 (caught on camera btw). The Numerous counts of IDF shooting innocent Palestinians simply trying to walk to the safe zones while holding white flags? Sam is a well spoken cleric who sits in his Ivory tower to speak sweet truths of nothingness in your ear. Nothing more.

Yeah it’s pretty good!

Clarification is when you get new information. Yet this seems to be your position all along and Harris didn't change a thing

And Sam isn't inherently biased. He presents facts in an attempt to educate those willing to listen.

Strange times!

@@user-uq6bz1ri8j Unfortunately, his perspective is censored by the media. He hasn't gone to Palestine to find out for himself the truth.

​@@user-uq6bz1ri8j And you have no arguments against him

@@user-uq6bz1ri8j I don’t know if ai agree that he’s not inherently biased. He is a Jew after all. I think he does a good job of staying consistent to his intellectual standards despite innate bias.

Categorising 2 billion people as a homogenous unit? Sounds a little discriminatory if I'm being honest

@@HaggardPillockHD No, he is not doing that.

@@Fomites who do you mean by "he"?

Sam…It’s a shame that you squandered an opportunity to inform your audience, and instead volunteered to be a propaganda, puppet for misinformation, provided by a foreign government. The right side of history is never on the side of the oppressor. without understanding the imbalance of power, the illegal status of Israel’s 75 year occupation of Palestinian territory, and an understanding of centuries. You need to recalibrate your moral compass. Justifying the murder of children and an absurdly high civilian death rate as “urban wear warfare”, is straight from the Zionist propaganda talking points. Shame on you. Suggesting that this Hass to do with religion is proof you have absolutely no understanding of hundreds and nearly 1000 years of amicable relations between the Muslim and Jewish communities. Zionism is a colonial political ideology. If you don’t believe me do your research on what the original name was. Judaism is a beautiful religion that is intentionally conflated with a barbaric political ideology to insulated from criticism and accountability. Like all humans, Palestinians have the right to live free or die trying. international law afford this right to all humans, including Palestinians. Over 13,000 children have been murdered with our taxpayer dollars, over 7000 women have been murdered and over 80% of Palestinian civil infrastructure has been demolished. The suggestion that this has anything to do with a clash of civilizations and religious ideology is laughable. Kindergarten level research would have proven that even Christian and Jewish Palestinians are part of the resistance movement Determined to end the 75 year oppression of Palestinians. They will live free or die trying. In case you forgot, Mandela was also a terrorist, according to the apartheid state, trying to discredit him. the truth will prevail and as always, the right side of history will be on the side of the oppressed… Not the oppressor. Wake up.

Part of which is Sam's ignorance and hypocrisy.

So genocide is ok ?

@@twntwrs sounds like you got TDS buddy

@@bernardofitzpatrick5403 nope, hence Israel's response :)

What, so they can fooled by this clown Sam Harris?

Can you point out what was wrong of what Sam said?

​@@jacksonrauch9429The only thing an ad hominem convinces people of is that you don't have a substantive argument.

@@BassByTheBay at this point, if you dont know the truth about the middle east, you must be avoiding it. so, accusing somebody of not having a substantive argument is disingenuous right at the start. when you start off with that, we all know what you are.

@@TheMadmacs If you were trying to exemplify my point, you've succeeded.

Would it be antisemitic to blame Jews for this?

He is not alone speaking out about it There are more

Totally agree!

so many things he said are untrue, sadly. "People only hear what they want to hear"

@@sketsakafit3733 If that is true, then it should be easy for you to give some examples.

yes, not matter if it Jihadism, Wokeism, Trumpism, Vaccination Skeptics... Sam is there to address boldly!

​@@mrrecluse7002 ok, one example: He said that israel dont commit genocide because Gaza's population is not decreasing but rather increasing, from 250.000 (1948) to 2.5 million something (today). But do you know why there is a surge in Gaza's population? It's turns out isn't caused by increase in Palestinian's birthrate, but its because they are refugees. Gaza residents are displaced people from other regions of Palestine such as Jerusalem, West Bank, or other villages that got ransacked and taken over by either israeli armed settlers or expelled by the IDF. So it's clearly genocide and ethnic cleansing.

100% -pure one sided talking points- always good!

@@andrewm4767then go through each point and refute it with evidence. But you can’t, so you won’t.

@@raina4732 I could actually do a few and I’m nowhere near an expert on the topic-

@@andrewm4767 Do it then

It's because of people like Sam and Coleman that thousands of Muslims can be killed by the West without consequences in Iraq 91 and 2003 plus now in Syria, Yemen and Palestine. Muslims have been k murdered by the West for decades. It is any wonder that they are slightly peeved lol. But Coleman and Sam and Kon and other immoral scum still at like the victim. What a strange world we live in.

Because he would be destroyed by Finkelstein

Ahh, no, Finkelstein is a bargain rate thinker​r @@BroodallyHonest

@@mathish1477 The only thing Harris is good at is making religion look ridiculous. But, somewhere along the way, he developed a vendetta against Islam and Muslims, in particular. He's extremely biased.

@@BroodallyHonest or, he's just right and you don't like it.

@@mathish1477 No, he's a Jew who's got a soft spot for his heritage. He's blind to the atrocities of his own people

Thank you

@@KnowledgeSeeker-wi9sw Not at all the reason why. It’s because I can hear his whole thought process in as much detail as possible.

So fire! lol

"Solo Sam Harris podcasts are always the best." Not on this topic. The only people we've heard from so far on Making Sense are those who share his views. It just makes me wonder why Sam can't find an expert with a different perspective to debate with on this topic.

@@KnowledgeSeeker-wi9sw what specifically did he say you disagree with?

Cragjones, you'll never get a cogent answer, let alone a specific, from bankrupt trolls like "KnowledgeSeeker."

In reality, who the hell are you talking about? To tell you the truth, i know many Muslims. In fact, i happen to be one. The truth to the problem are the Christians my friend, and all their #WhiteRinger friends. When you believe 1 man can be God, what's gonna' stop you from believing you're one too? Nothing! If you'd open your eyes, & think for yourself, you may begin to see the light. You've been manipulated all your life, and you can't tell the truth from a lie!

Although I agree, note that "the reality-based community" is a term from Jonathan Rauch's book which Sam discussed with him in the last podcast.

that would be the 3 man made religions in that area.

Sam is so far from reality it's crazy. But he's right that it's a clash of civilizations. The west is sinking fast as the east rises. That's reality. And it's a reality that beginning to steamroll due to the total incompetence of western leadership...

Sam is so far from reality it's crazy. But he's correct in calling the situation a clash of civilizations.

There's no wisdom here. It is shocking that he has swallowed Israeli propaganda whole. He needs to get outside of the Zioinist bubble and the media whitewash in order to find out the truth.

It's amazing to see the sizable number of Harris listeners on this page who immediately stopped listening to him as soon as he took up this topic. I looked at some of their other comments on his videos and it's very peculiar. They refuse to recognize the logical contradictions on their own views. Somehow, when its Israel, radical Islamists become freedom fighters to them. It's very hard to understand how they don't recognize the flaws in their own thinking. And I'm struggling to find any explanation other than "the Iranian / Palestinian propaganda machine is very effective" or "is it latent antisemitic bias that keeps then from actually listening to Israelis?"

That’s such a dode shlarfing say nothing comment

@roopprabhu it was just a compliment, you over here expecting a full, profound deconstruction of the video in the RU-vid comments? Lmao

@@fuzzybunnyluv to be honest, i personally wouldn't share this comment but fuck me are you right. can we please have less dick sucking of the content creator everyone? at least skim the surface and allude to whatever sam says that was "clear and brave". it honestly makes me think these are just bots or maybe its people who have something affirmed by the content creator and they just cant resist the dick sucking praise. this shit is everywhere - it's annoying, fawning, and you wouldn't be able to say it IRL without feeling cringe.

That is bravery like when an actress wears a specific dress to the Oscar’s- omg so brave! She totally pulled it off

Genocide supporter supports genocide supporter, how often does that occur?

Come on now. He's never gonna miss an opportunity to air his Islamaphobia

Translations "Sam, I too support genocide and war crimes, and I feel less monstrous hearing your propaganda"

Ok let's play Which world is free ? ICJ verdict debunked your nonsense

One other more tangible thing supporting Hamas is the Israel government that bolstered it while undermining the Palestinian Authority to avoid any real negotiations for a Palestinian state.

You mean anti white. Its not anti western blacks, its anti western whites and now the Jews who look white even though they are not

I agree with you on this. I have felt from the beginning that it is something more than just being anti jew or anti Israel. You have to be anti West to also be anti Israel in such a twisted way. All those billions of petro- dollars in grants to western universities are paying off we can see much to the detriment of the world !!

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that is because you cant separate the chaos in the middle east and the actions of Israel from US politics. Us is as much to blame as Israel for the genocide. do you get it why people that oppose Israel have necessarily oppose Us foreign policy.

The trouble with most wannabe religious people no matter what confession is that they are self-righteous and sanctimonious hypocrites. They honor their God with their lips, but inside their hearts they are ugly, hatedriven and sanctimonious beasts. A breed of vipers.

IMHO and with a background in child psychology (studies), teaching, professional astrology leading to karmic astrology and then onto Buddhism, my answer to you is "yes," it is necessary to "shine light on" our Shadow side, that is, what we do not want to face about ourselves (we also have in our Shadow good things, but this is not the discussion here). I quote Jung : "When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." This happens on an individual level and a collective level and because we live in the world of duality, there is good and evil and most of us are somewhere on this linear spectrum. I dare not write more here, but psychology, Jung and Jungian thought, art (poetry, writing, painting etc ), astrology (karmic astrology particularly), mysticism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Hermeticism etc... show the way. I wrote about a linear spectrum, but our spiritual evolution is spiral (just to complicate things). Would love to write more and what you have written is absolutely true. @PhenomenalWorld

You just basically described me before 10/7 so I'm inclined to answer all of this with a 'yes.' Naivety. But 10/7 - and the immediate reaction from people whom I thought were just like me - changed me. Big time. Rose-colored glasses are off for me and I've spent the better part of 3 months examining and firming up my moral red lines. I wasn't even aware I had them. But I think there's a lot of people out there who are going through the same process, silently. Sam's courage to speak up here when mostly everyone is afraid to is very admirable.

@@JuliaGooliaOnGoogle There is another expression that might give you comfort : "The truth will set you free, but first it will make you miserable". I enjoyed reading you because that is exactly what happened to me to and my own transformation because of this is far from over.

Jihad happens, I gross behavior, but it happens when European jews invade Arab land.

@@jacquelinelion9879 you wrote more than enough

Not only, they will conquer rudderless moral relativistic weak West.

The leader of Bahrain publically condemned Hamas. He also criticized Israel for their air strikes. But he certainly did not celebrate Hamas and was opposed to them.

I understand your concern.

Brother they will make a choice....and it won't be good for you.....

I think you are only here to state your right-wing, narrow-minded views. No wonder you yourself don't condemn Likud

A very disappointing perspective. He has swallowed Israeli propaganda whole. So sad.

He ain't that sane if he's using iraq as a comparisson. Does he knows bosnia was a thing?

​@@geralyned9530nah, did you even watch the video?

Absolutely. You have summed it up well accurately.

Blaming innocent Palestinian civillians for their own slaughter is pretty victim-blamey.

Israel certainly is the victim of the Oct 7th attack by Hamas. They are however, (and more importantly I would argue) the perpetrator of an occupation, blockade, illegal settlements, consistent murder and control over a 2,000,000+ indigenous population. One could quite easily make the argument that Israel has been doing EXACTLY what Hamas did on Oct 7th, but more discreetly and over the span of the last 60+yrs. The evidence is out there, but one has to be willing to look.

@@stickjohnny Where did you hear Sam blaming innocent Palestinian civillians?

This is a precise statement of reality. Thank you.

A few questions: 1. Does the Iranian population in general support israel? I see a lot of support from Persians outside of Iran but I'm not sure if that represents Iranians within Iran. 2. It seems like there's a people's uprising against the Islamic regime. Do you think they will succeed in overturning the government and putting another system in place? 3. Are you allowed unfiltered internet access there?

​@@yehudagreenfield Hey, all the big questions. HAHA - I'd say there is a huge support from inside Iran as well. However, you can't find people publicly expressing it for many reasons. The biggest one is the oppressive regime in Iran which bans all of that. I'm one of the supporters BTW, hope the war ends soon in favour of innocent people on both sides. If you read the history of relationships before the Islamic revolution, you will find out why there is a huge tie between Persians and Jews. and how the revolution ruined everything... - True, there have been movements inside Iran against the autocracy for decades. I'm certain that big change will happen one day, the new generations are far more informed, educated and smarter. They give me the hope of a better future for Iran and the region. - The internet is heavily filtered, I'm using a VPN system providing me with an Australian IP so I can access social media etc. Hope that info helps

Stay safe

@@majidjamili2157stay safe. Hope You‘ll get rid of your oppressors.

@@domsnow6418 thanks mate, we are pushing ... :) !

Unfortunately they all want to take as many infidels as possible with them to their non existing heavens

all man made religions are death cults for people afraid to die

I really hope your not serious? Giving them what they want is the worst thing we or anyone could do. It does not satiate it only encourages far worse behavior. I can give you plenty of examples. The biggest one is that Palestinians have been offered a state of their own at least five times and not only did they reject those offers but every single attempt at negotiations resulted in an attack on Israel. This makes complete sense when you understand the Islamist/Jihadist Mindset. They believe if you can be forced to the bargaining table that you can be defeated and they use things like cease fires and negotiation only to get respite and get back on their feet so they can attack again and also to judge what type of effect said attacks are having. Neither Hamas, Islamic Jihard, PLO or any other group give a damn about Palestinian civillians a bit they only care about how they can be used to attack Israel and so far the majority of those Palestinians see just fine with that.( Though there are also many who want Israel to get rid of Hamas for them they are simply to afraid to actually say so publlically.

Compare and contrast - The word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses: “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9 “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.” -1 Samuel 15:3 “Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.” -Jeremiah 6:11 “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.” -Hosea 13:16 The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers: “in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.” This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished. This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah): It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children." بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دع "To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause" -Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya The modifiable testaments testament genocide on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context. God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.

No heaven and no religion is called Soviet Union. Wasn't exactly an utopia.

This argument goes for both sides, sadly

For what being an apologist tool to justify Israeli atrocities?

​@@jacksonrauch9429stay morally confused.

People get the government they deserve. Either by innaction or by action.

Maybe Sam Harris can turn you out. Might be the one and only guy who could do it. Lol. Kidding.

It's been occurring since the founding of Islam.

Unfortunately Sam has failed to realize it is Israel that has acted, and continues to act, like Nazis.

And to think Netanyahu supported Hamas🙄

@@jacksonrauch9429I think didn't so much "support" them as he used them for his own political expediency. He is a snake.

@@mk1st Was Hitchens a "supposed supporter" of Hamas for saying they had a right to exist?

Enjoying this one, enjoying it?? You find enjoyment on Sam Harris having to describe this sad reality to a public who refuse to reason and seem incapable of empathy and compassion to any of the Jewish victims and not even the first youngsters bombed and murdered during a music festival on their free time when they weren't volunteering to help people in Gaza?

​@@SDRDS96169Thanks for your post. It serves as the perfect illustration of what it looks like when ignorant or deceitful people start and end the history of the entire conflict on 10/07/23.

@@twntwrs let me go enlightened here for a second then, when did it begin 1947 instead, at the beginning of the "occupation" or was it at the beginning of the "invasion"? You educated and enlightened fellas don't know the meaning of either terms and you don't even know how lucky you are for it

@@twntwrs my personal "ignorance" about the conflict started in 2021 at the previous islamist terrorist attacks in the area, actually How about your "enlightenment" about the from the river to the sea agenda began?

@@SDRDS96169 that leaves you with at least 75 more years worth of history to catch up on.

Gaza only belongs to the Palestinians because Israel vacated it specifically for the Palestinians in 2005. Have you looked at a map recently? There’s tiny Israel, and surrounding Israel are all Arab countries. So why aren’t they helping their Palestinian brothers and sisters? Finally, I like how you aren’t specific in your comment about accusing Israel of taking land from the Palestinians using the words “some evidence.” Before pointing fingers, you better have a better formulated argument than “some evidence.”

Arabs and Muslims have to accept israel without conditions just as they demand the world accepts them. As long as they cling to the belief that the ummah will be restored one day there will be no solution. But truthfully what is the solution to india and pakistan? Ukraine and russia? Those conflicts are far more existential yet no one is rushing to solve.

I think he was quite clear - this is one of the times where war is a necessity, even a moral imperative

He articulates it quite clearly. The Muslim world needs to reject the jihadist mentality. There needs to be a complete rejection of the cult of death.

There are no good answers is, I think, the point. He's merely preaching going into the situation with our eyes open as to the ugly possibilities.

Dame right it's blaming so?

No thy weren’t

@@WorshipinIdols yes, yes they were, read up on it

@@unom8 where did u say they came from? And what year?

@@WorshipinIdols Go look it up: "Out of almost 6mn registered Palestinian refugees around the world, more than half - 3.5mn - are in the neighbouring countries of Syria, Jordan and Lebanon. But of those within the Palestinian territories, almost two-thirds, or 1.6mn, are in Gaza. The Gazans who are not officially defined as refugees, typically because they are descendants of locals, live under Israeli occupation."

@@WorshipinIdols "Out of almost 6mn registered Palestinian refugees around the world, more than half - 3.5mn - are in the neighbouring countries of Syria, Jordan and Lebanon. But of those within the Palestinian territories, almost two-thirds, or 1.6mn, are in Gaza. The Gazans who are not officially defined as refugees, typically because they are descendants of locals, live under Israeli occupation."

Finkelstein is far more knowledgeable and intelligent. Where does Sam get his information? From Israeli lies and media propaganda.

He never would, Sam is a coward.

​@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 What more needs to be said about Norman Finkelstein; this is a man who famously declared “We are all Hezbollah,” thus explicitly identifying himself with an organization dedicated to killing Jews and eradicating the Jewish state. He questioned whether it is antisemitic to describe Jews as killers of Christ, a historically antisemitic accusation. - He suggested that the number of Holocaust victims should be open to “statistical, scholarly questions,” a view associated with Holocaust revisionists. And praised David Irving, a figure known for his Nazi sympathies and Holocaust denial. He referred to Irving as "a very good historian," even though Irving's claims were debunked in court, and his works were seen as providing support for far-right groups. Indeed, what more needs to be said!

@@micahjohnsonboxing6409Norman openly celebrated the October 7th terrorist attack right after it happened. He’s a dumbass and a weirdo. Oh and he backed out of debate with Destiny

Sam would get absolutely wrecked

is that what you call support of war crimes

@@JewTube001 Your username makes me think you might be criticizing Israel for the wrong reasons, but Sam is indeed playing defense for Israel's war crimes.

LOL 🤣

You are deluded my guy,

Lol so many comments like this in every video I'm convinced he's got an army of bots

You're better checking out Ezra Klein for more insight

I would crush your boy Sam in a debate. He is an intellectual lightweight.

@@jmc5335lol. What a joke

@jackd6129 Klein has had some really impressive guests on regarding this subject. All of whom I would wager would shake their heads at the reductive nonsense Harris spouts from the get-go here.

@@jmc5335 successfully argue against 1 of his 5 points and I’ll give it a try

Don't overthink it 😉

Headquarters of hamas in tunnels under hospitals. Listen again

Google it genius

Not exclusively a Western scarcity, it's a human brain thing scarcity everywhere on everyone even if the levels of scarcity on that front may be higher in the West than say some places in the East, it is still not exclusively Western

In the East, they have a crystal moral clarity albeit the morality they are clear about is twisted, deranged subversive and absurd, but clear nevertheless. The West in the main is morally ambiguous specially on the left and thanks to that new craze of DEI and cultural relativism is getting worse. @@SDRDS96169

He's lacking a bit if he's comparing iraq and afghanistan to gaza. Specially iraq.

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Thanks, no way I could have slogged through the stupid shit Sam was saying in this one.

please explain, I'm interested in the opposite view@@buddahluvaz8

It never ceases to amaze me how rude, nasty and dismissive people are on social media when someone presents an argument that challenges their own position. Small minds.

LMAO at the myth list.

yeah an opinion they have heard their whole life, that is no longer supportable by facts@@wombat6177

Jewish supremacists from left and right, regardless of where they were born, are always ready to defend the diaspora.

😂

Nah. He's not left. More of a centrist. Check out Chris Hedges for a real left take

exactly

Agree, these monologues are short-sighted and off the mark. It’s clear he has very little knowledge of the history, politics and society. I would like to see him talk to more “balanced” experts like Thomas Friedman or Ian Bremmer. Sam is in IDF level propaganda spewing right now

@sassansalamian3428 -- He addressed the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians in the formation of Israel and pointed out that numerous modern states came into existence through similar acts. He also pointed out that overt oppression does not necessarily lead to this kind of violence (or any at all) and that the distinction in ideologies is meaningful in understanding the behavior. For example, the East Timorese (Catholics) were subject to an Indonesian (mostly Muslim) invasion and attempted integration from 1975-1999 and they did resist militarily, but they did not r*pe or murder Indonesian civilians in West Timor as an act of rebellion. The example that Sam Harris gives is of the Tibetans whose most violent act of rebellion is to burn themselves alive, never mind negative actions against their Han invaders. We can accept, for the sake of argument, all of Ilan Pape's claims of ethnic cleansing, Gabor Mate's claims about Palestinian oppression, etc. and none of this would sufficiently explain Hamas' response UNTIL we add in their religio-political ideology.

@@oremfrien Ethnic cleansing rhetoric has existed since the founding. It never ceased. It exists in political parties. Popular political parties. Parties that predate Hamas by a decade. The same rhetoric that people claim comes from Hamas was literally written into the current ruling party's founding document. Extremism breeds extremism. The more extreme, the more extreme the pushback. You can see this sort of thing happen throughout their history. One people push and the other push back with something more extreme. You can see it in what is happening now. You can say Hamas is extreme but not without looking at the extremism within Israel and the ruling party. It's difficult to not see the incitement in a statement like, "between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty". It predates Hamas by a decade and predates their radicalization by much longer than that. This same rhetoric predates the written version, of course.

You’ve been indoctrinated and fallen for false, insidious, and dangerous propaganda, that, yes, even some Jews spread. Literally, everything you said is a lie. Look up actual facts and population statistics. Look up actual history, not the made up story the Palestinians tell about “The Nakba” but literal events of what happened. I don’t know if your brain can tolerate the truth. It will be a big reckoning for you when you realize you’ve been brainwashed in the same way the Nazis were. Good luck with that reckoning.

Name calling is not an argument

Really? Nothing in this podcast you aren’t sure about or disagree with? How brainwashed are you?

Israel is a criminal state imposed by the British and later aided by USA. It does does not have legitimacy just because they have a holy book that says God gave the land to the jews. Sam is embarrassing and has become a Jewish apologetic. Utterly disgusting.

I totally agree, its just based on complete ignorance and arrogance and virtue signalling for the non muslims. The muslims dont care about truth at all, Just want their team to win.

He fell on his face at the first hurdle

Moral clarity? Good god! Sam has become so blinkered on this issue I barely recognise the man who I have grown to respect so much over the years. His(well placed) hatred of Islam has blinded him so much that he's arguing from such a one sided and morally dubious stand point

...particularly since it's seems unpopular to support Israel these days.

@@user-uq6bz1ri8j While I'm not a big fan of the way Israeli IDF has handled this mess, but I realize one side's negotiating position is death at any cost. If that's what they want, then so be it!!!

​@@christophorfaust2457What should Islamic nations do for Palestinians?

You mention “religious zealotry”… you include Zionism under that moniker I assume?

@@jacksonrauch9429 Ancient history has religious extremism and conquests on both sides, but you are not being honest if you think there isn't an ethical difference, now, between Islam and Judaism/Christianity. I'm not going to repeat Sam Harris' lessons on this. You'll just have to listen better so you can avoid making foolish comments when you're trying to be clever.

Are you kidding me? This is the most hateful rant I have heard for years.

@@rasmussonderriis Accurately describing the consequences of radical jihadism will always sound hateful for sure.

what did hamas thought will happen??