Starclan:kill that ok Starclan: forbidden love ok Starclan:medcat falls in love thats ok Starclan:*gasp*you don't believe in starclan to the darkforest you go
I think that it was confirmed that Mothwing and Cloudtail (both cats who don't believe in Starclan) will go to Starclan I can't wait see the confusion on their faces when they do eventually enter Starclan tho
Yeah I agree with you on this one bc I'm squirrelflights hope the code is broken so many times bramblestar doesn't let leafpool heal a injured cat called sunrise and sunrise almost dies and tigerstar attacked and killed a queen just moments after she just gave birth to kits that's just messed up and squirrelflight and leafpool almost didn't make it into starclan but ashfur gets into starclan with no problems wow starclan is messed up
The first series (the prophecies begin) also relates to this. I mean, if you think about it, Firestar broke the warrior code like 80 times, and usually it was the right thing to do, no matter how many times he got punished for it. So yeah, this video makes a lot of sense.
I agree. Also the whole "leader's word is law" thing is part of the reason why ShadowClan back then was stuck in Brokenstar's leadership for longer than they should've been.
Well,we cannot compare Mudclaw with Ashfur,theh have very diferent levels of evil,the wrost thing Mudclaw did was start a rebellion,partly due to Hawlfrost's manipulation,Ashfur,for his part,almos destroyed the dark forest,the living clans and starclan
Moth flight was selfish in the book. She cared more about her rule being broken then leafpools feelings how much Squirrelflight sacrificed and how it affected hollyleaf. That rule cause lots of damage. If I were dawnstar then I would get rid of it. So one code means nothing
Ooh kinda early Sadly I’m not going to watch it since Squirrelflight’s Hope hasn’t come out for me.. 😅 Edit: wait where did all these likes come from lol
Even if Leafpool had left with Crowfeather it still wouldn't make sense to send her to the Dark Forest since Pinestar & Ravenpaw both abandoned the Clans cause they didn't believe clan life was for them but were both let into StarClan & After reading prologue for The Silent Thaw I'm not as sure whoever is possessing Bramblestar is Ashfur, the things he says sound like what Brokenstar would say
xXJena StarXx but still a horrible cat either way. You’re right though, even if she did neglect her son, she never really did anything evil. Unlike Ashfur and Mudclaw, Ripplestar (actually I think he is in the Dark Forest) she never tried to kill anyone.
Why does everybody forget thisleclaw? Yes survived the great battle and yes he is evil, but he never broke the code when he was alive, about this all the code breaking and second chances, im gonna bet he will come back, he and mapleshade didn’t survive the battle for nothing
Matze Pizzaheld so true! But the reason he was put in the Dark Forest was because of his relationship with Spottedleaf when she was an apprentice. But who in the real world would Thistleclaw posse?
This is why StarClan has a leader in my book series. AngelStar ensures that the mess in SquirrelFlight's Vision doesn't happen at all. She doesn't judge cats by their affiliations or their actions. She judges them based on what she sees in their hearts. And will only except the purest of souls in her domain. She will also make exceptions for those who repent for their sins against StarClan
Hear me out.. it's Mudclaw. Why? Mudclaw was desprate to be leader. But when onewhisker was appointed to leader Mudclaw was very upset. And the fact he was friends with Firestar made it even worse. He saw it as code breaking. Ashfur broke the code by taking the life of Firestar once, and almost burning children. if the spirit wanted to get rid of code breakers, they would probably be a code follower! Unless it was a hypocrite
_that.random.weeb_ Unless the med cat is male. Male med cats should be able to have kits because toms don't raise kits. And if the medicine cat is female, her apprentice should take over. The medicine cat code is kinda stupid
Tbh, I think the med cat code is actually important. Just because tom's don't feed and nurse them in the nursery doesn't mean he doesn't do anything. He visits them, plays games with them and more. Tom's spend much more time with their kits in the newer series then when they did in arc 1. She cats need to do that and more, yes, she may have an apprentice, but what if something went wrong and she died? That apprentice would then need to be trained by another med cat which could be difficult depending on how many med cats each clan has. Now, let's say everything went fine and she goes back to being a med cat, and then a battle happens and his/her kit gets hurt. They'll be very panicked and will want to help their kit first when there are more serious wounds. Even if they go over and deal with the more serious injuries their mind may be clouded with worry which will make them more distracted and slows down their work performance. So, yeah... personally I think the med cat code is actually important and if they get rid of it I'll be highly annoyed. Thanks for reading, have a nice day.
@@zhongli_simp_lmao7160 I understand. The med code is important. It just seems kind of sad to me the med cats aren't allowed to fall in love or have kits. It's part of life. It must be hard for them to see their clanmates everyday with their mates and kits and always thinking that that'll never happen to them. It's just my opinion though😊
@@romayora5844 Oh I definitely understand and I'm sorry if it sounded like I was attacking your opinion. But I agree, It would be so tough. Sometimes I think it's a little unfair that they make a huge, lifechanging decision that they don't really understand as a kit. Maybe the code should be changed to after warrior training (when they become adults) you can decide. So they'll understand more of the impact of the decision and therefore can be more properly punished if they do end up having kits.
Kinda unrelated but am I the only one who actually loved Squirrelflight's Hope? Maybe it's because she's my fav but I cried all troughout the last chapters ;-;
I'm so sad...These books arrive in Finland about two or four years late! In Finland we do no even have a fifth series😭 the Last book we've come to have is the sun path. I don't know if this is its English name😅 I don't know why but my favorite character is Leafpool💗And sorry my bad English!😂
the warrior code is important to keep things in order. it doesn’t matter if someone has killed a cat. as long as it was justified and the cat had pure intentions then they’re in the right.
Oof Squirrelflight's Hope made me literally hate all the ThunderClan cats. I love the concept of the Sisters, but it wasn't that well executed. The StarClan judge scene was terrible by the way. And I hate how this book spoiled all of Tree's Roots.
@Toboe The only good ThunderClan cats were Squirrelflight, Leafpool, Stormcloud, Larksong, Sparkpelt, Flickerkit, and the StarClan cats who were not included in the council.
@@samvoss6697 In the sixth arc I hated Sparkpelt and in Squirrelflight's Hope I felt so bad for hating her because she lost both her mate and her son at once :(
Well i guess the whole idea was clan cats, aka cats with some weird/strict rules. The identity would kinda be gone if the warrior code vanished. Of course if the whole concept evolves it may be possible to keep the identity. Of course there are some fundamentals which should not be moved because of the base idea of warrior cats.
In squirrelflights hope starclan is basically telling her not to help cats if they're not part of the clans so many other wrong things that make no sense at all happened in squirrelflights hope
Ive only read these books for 1 year and it will be 2 years soon of me reading these books. And ive never known what the warrior code had in it. I cant really even remember anything other than you must save a kit even if its from another clan
And bramblestar threatened to demote squirrelflight from being deputy I really really hate bramblestar and hope he dies really soon I hate how ashfur ended up in starclan without problems and squirrelflight and leafpool almost didn't
AshFur: *almost kills SquirrelFlight, Jayfeather, Lionblaze and Hollyleaf, in between fire* StarClan: "your okay, come on in AshFur!" Hawkfrost: *sets firestar in a slightly harmful trap* StarClan: "get away, evil cat!" Also StarClan: *lets the ancient SkyClan leave the territory just because there was only four trees, not five* New SkyClan: Am I a joke to you? LeafStar: >:C
I know it won't be true but i have a somewhat theory. When ashfur and ferncloud were apps I hope that maybe when their mother died he got mad with starclan for making that happen and he just became angrier with starclan and he realized/thought they were bad. So he wanted to fight against the bad so he tried to kill firestar so he could go to the darkforest but backed out bc he wasn't actually bad. Then he couldn't force himself to kill those innocent kits. So when they let him into starclan he was mad, but by possessing bramblestar he came up with a way to turn the cats against starclan by messing up the code. Also... Where's hollypaw when we need her???
If we go with many starclan cats rebelling I think have other cats who have been theorized or canonized to be in starclan Mudclaw, Hawkheart(is that his name? The one who killed moonflower?), Rainflower Cats who have done wrong but not enough to truly be evil. And honestly I'm more rooting for a Mudclaw redemption then an Ashfur one. Because I want Ashfur's arc and show that more cats should be involved in star clans affairs, specifically Thunderclan starclan's affairs, because things can be wrong. Bring cats in who don't have bias. Learn to judge right. If Mudclaw has a change in heart here it could also show how bitterness can come and go on both levels in starclan. Ashfur seemed unbitter in starclan, him turning bitter and Mudclaw becoming less bitter would be an interesting plot development. The two cats who were influenced by Hawkfrost, who betrayed their clans and leader. Both represent two side of the same coin. And I would love to bring out hawkheart. A evil starclan resident med cat? Uh yes. Him get Mudclaw and Ashfur as his right paws. Him being good at influencing others. The drama with him perhaps being the one to speak to Shadowpaw, being the puppet master. Mudclaw becoming found out to be possessing Harestar(if he gets pocessed )by Rootpaw and perhaps confronted with the help of windclan towards the final showdown. Mudclaw turning on Hawkheart and fighting side by side with his now grown apprentice Crowfeather. Just- I want starclan drama. Moonflower and others fighting alongside their kin as the better known starclan cats are stuck more during the final battle Golden flower side by side with her daughter Maybe starclan cats fighting together I would love Sandstorm and Ashfoot together, fight alongside their fathers I need just so much that I know wont happen-
I was just beginning to read the series of warriors when I read the field guide with the codes and I still had feeling that they were only made simply for conflict because they’re so meaningless
Rockstar Ivypool Yes, but Crookedkit wasn’t being neglected. He was being treated by Brambleberry and Shellheart and Oakpaw were still there for him. Since he was in care and receiving care, he wasn’t exactly in pain in the sense that the code is referring to. Yes, he was physically in pain but he was receiving care. The code was made when three kits were allowed to drown because they weren’t of the same clan that allowed them to drown. That is the neglect the code talks about. I’m not saying what Rainflower did was okay, but she didn’t break code by neglecting him the way she did. He was receiving treatment and had support and was close to apprentice age anyway. She didn’t neglect a lot in pain, but rather a lot who is almost an apprentice in treatment who is receiving aid and care.
Think the last time I even touched one of these books was 5 years ago but your videos are really making me want to get back into them xD also they're great for procrastinating uni work with
It would be interesting to see a higher plane than Star Clan. Like maybe Star Clan turns out to be more of a halfway, maybe where Spotted Leaf went? It would be really interesting for them to meet other wildcat species lynxes bobcats servals the big cats etc.
As a warrior cat fan, I do believe following the warrior code infects your reputation, and my liking of a character that abuses the warrior code. I don’t like Graystripe yes I think gray x silver is cute, I don’t like that GrayStripe abandoned Firestar because of his love for silver stream I think the rules are sometimes stupid, not meaning you should break them Like no playing with your food. It isn’t good manners but any cat to do it should be called unloyal if you break a rule your usually called unloyal and probably not respected for awhile Yes Firestar did it and he’s the leader oof But seriously why no playing with your food?? And considering like more clans have 2 medicine cats or a medicine cat apprentice I think its a bad rule for medicine cats who can’t have kits BUT HEY!!! THE RULE EXISTS BECUASE ERIN HUNTER WANTS CUTE COUPES AND WE GOT THEM HAAHHH But forbidden love is a good plot so I’m happy those rules exist uwu
Man I finally read Squirrelflight's hope- I loathed the sisters in Tree's novella but I rooted for them in this book - this book made me loathe both Bramblestar and Tigerstar though.
