Fr the 2 problems last year is that the giddler couldnt shoot and killed their offense anytime he stepped on the court and that they basically didnt have a center
I think if the warriors offered Klay 3yrs/60mil it'd be more than fair. If he doesn't accept 20 mil a yr for 3 yrs then golden state could officially say they did EVERYTHING possible to keep him..
i don’t think the warriors have any problems giving him $20 a year, it’s that they don’t want his contract to extend to 3 years because they want him and curry’s contracts to end together so they can assess their future at that time.
@adamjhonson2194 Brooks and Brown are not offensive players....At one time, Klay was a great 2-way player; not so much anymore. And his offense is not there anymore. Klay should take the 2 year contract with plans on retiring at the end of those 2 years.
At the end of the day it all comes down to Steph. Their timeline is Steph’s timeline and they have to decide the best way to take and take advantage of a superstar before he is gone
That is true but as a Warriors fan. I think Steph body is starting to break down. Body can't hold up for 82 games and just like Bron. He needs a guy who can be a second option but can be a first option at times when Steph can't be there.
As a warriors fan. Heart to Heart we want klay back but we know w him there the team will never grow w our young players. Moody and Podz won't come to their own w him there. Whether he stays or not i will live w it. Will always love klay . Had to be there between 2013-2019 . Got that love for klay
You're too emotionally into this sports thing. There is no "heart to heart we want him back" with me. He's not a good player anymore. The best thing would be for him to be gone no matter what.
He is not that player, but he is the same guy. The decision here is if you offer the contract to the guy, you know you won't offer the contract to the player.
@@jmgpptt0 points in an elimination game. He's NOT the guy, the him or that player. If they don't trade him and get something good in return, they gonna get humiliated by the Kings again.
He got a max that front office knew he wouldn’t be playing on for a year at least. If he’s just about the money then they should let him go. He’s not worth it. If he wants to do something new then they should let him go.
Klay got offered a max when he was injured wht are we talking about … I get it trynna secure ur future but it’s like the organization showed their gratitude already and the way he carried himself last season was bad .he was always pouting and aside from inconsistent performance he was acting like a child.I thank him for ll he’s done but respectfully dnt bring him back 😂.he is not gonna wanna continue coming off the bench .What makes it worse is he can be the next 6moty for sure but he’s not accepting that he’s not the same person so why should we .
@@michaelg.2515he literally left because Jordan retired because Phil Jackson was being let go after that season. Scottie was looking for a massive pay out, not dissimilar to klay. Barkley posits pippens pissy attitude at the time despite being past his prime. Scottie always thought he was THAT guy 😂
He wants a long term contract because his market might not be there in 2 seasons ? It’s already gone, bro is cooked, it’s time for veteran minimum bub, you’re done
@@willjensen5595 high impact player ? Come on bro, he doesn’t defend anymore and can’t shoot anymore, he’s a shadow of himself, I think you underestimate how washed he is cause you’re a splash brothers fan, but it’s time to face the truth, warriors dynasty is done, and klay is cooked
@@mathieumalecki6332He averaged .387 3PFG% and had a career high from the free throw line. If he was a bit more accurate he would’ve been 50-40-90, one of his closest years. His defense is significantly worse than his prime, but he’s not an awful defender. All people remember is 0-10 in the play in.
Klay is the one making it uncomfortable. If there's anything we learn this past season is that he is a diva. He needs to understand and accept reality of everything instead of just saying it. He's not a 2 way player, or all star sg anymore. He's just a good person to bring off the bench. Often this man is shooting the warriors out of games. As a warriors fan I would love to see all 3 retired together. But it seems like that may not be the case anymore
Hard agree. He needs to accept something close to a role player's contract to get some more talent around the team. This gives him the best chance of winning one more ring instead of hopping to Sacramento or wherever else. Also, he can still get a bag after his playing years. Especially if he ends it with the big 3 and in a city that loves him. If he hops on a team that doesn't contend the next few years, he'll fade into existence and there's nothing worth marketing there. Idk why it seems like he's too focused on "right now" and acting like, what you said, a diva. Those 4 rings got to his head and cut off the blood supply in his brain.
I'm beginning to dislike klay and Draymond!! Draymond thinking he's the smartest person in the world attitude and Klay acting like a Diva. I'm ok with trading Klay!! Draymond has helped win 4 rings but has also cost us 2 rings!! If Draymond does 1 more crazy thing, he'll be out the League, unfortunately I don't see Draymond containing himself!!
@@welder9163 Steph is also a big part of the Warrior's problems. Eating up all the salary cap space with his $55 million per year contract. If Curry and Klay both put their egos aside and accepted more team-friendly contracts, they could keep the veteran core of Curry, Klay, and Draymond together and have enough money to surround them with the talent necessary to be contenders again.
Agreed. We the fans gave Allen Iverson so much crap for not accepting a bench role. We called him selfish and arrogant and delusional, but somehow Klay is Teflon because he's a fan favorite.
@@alexanderhenry9133 you're not necessary wrong but curry is still a top nba player in this league and he took a big paycut back then despite having great success in the early years which then allowed Durant to be signed. Dray has always took paycut to stay in gsw. Klay is the only one who's never sacrificed at all. I think curry is justifiable.
I think Orlando should look for a point guard that can score and facilitate. I think if that problem is solved, it’ll help Orlando become a better 3-point shooting team.
I think we should keep the ball in Paolo and Franz hand, klay would be great off ball with Franz and Paolo setting him up. Let's be honest Orlando has way more rim pressure than gs could ever have
Yes Tyus Jones doesn't get anyone excited but he could be a valuable player for just stabilizing the lineup and not having to wonder who will start game to game.
Orlando needs shooting pretty bad as well. I have been feeling like they would be the top team to really make a strong move for Klay Thompson. The problem with Klay Thompson is that he doesn't seem to realize that he's not game 6 Klay anymore. I know he was mostly okay with coming off the bench but I don't think it was a smooth thing for Golden State. His numbers just get worse and worse and it would be foolish if they offered him more than 2 years. I know that Golden State still thinks they're in win now territory but they probably realistically aren't making a run for the title with the aging guys from their past and a bunch of young players who need to get more floor time. They're becoming one of those teams stuck in the middle.😊
You're exactly right. Magic could offer Klay a reasonable 2-year deal. He's not as good as Donte Divincenzo now, and Warriors refused to pay Donte 12 million a year -- so he signed with the Knicks. Klay looked awful in their biggest game of the year and he's never been a good rebounder, ball handler or passer. He was a great defender but not so much now.
@@randygraham926 if he wanted a 2-year deal he would just stay with the Warriors. Klay Thompson is looking for a three or four year deal. That's the divide between him and Golden State.
Why do so many people think that Klay Thompson had such a terrible season last year? He shot 39% from 3 and played in 77 games. Did he have a lot of games in the season where he shot terrible? Yes he did have a lot of games where he shot terrible, and no it wasn't like he was the Klay Thompson from 5 years ago but he was still very good. If a team adds him as a 3rd option on a three year contract I don't really see what the downside would be. Klay Thompson as a third option where he doesn't have a lot of responsibilities, but all he has to do is just catch and shoot like on the Sixers would be very dangerous. A sleeper team that no one is probably thinking about as well for Klay Thompson would be the Dallas Mavericks. Imagine Luka Doncic feeding Klay Thompson in the corner with Kyrie Irving. That would be a scary big three and you wouldn't be able to stop them.
@@smoothsavage2870 Seriously like if you have Klay Thompson on your team as a 3rd option he is one of the best 3rd options in the league and if the only thing that he has to focus on is making shots i'll trust him to make his shots more than at least half of the league. I'm a Sixers fan and I would love Klay Thompson as a third option.
U only talked about Klay 3pt shooting, which dropped and which means he useless outside of that fg horrible, he dont play make or rebound, can't create his own shot, and his defense not the same he rarely could hit 20 pts last year the exact reason he avg 17pts one of his lowest his stats wasnt impressive in his prime 22pts so looking casually look like he hast fell off but that's why stat lines don't tell the full story and I'm a gsw fan who ever get him will find out sooner than later
After next year he will be like 14 3 and 1.5 and 1.2 combined blocks and steals a game....people are overrating how many years and how much he should get....
As a Warriors fan, I think it's best for both the Warriors and Klay to go their separate ways. I just hope the relationship doesn't sour too much and the Dubs retire his number one day!
no matter what happens Klay Thompson will get a retired number in warriors stadium. I'm a bulls fan but I want those three to stay together on warriors until their retirement. (Maybe Green will go to another team at some point)
@@viciouslyeatingaburger Yeah, that would be ideal, but with the salaries, caps, and everything today, it's neqrly impossible to keep a player their entire career, let alone multiple players. The Dubs will def want to retire his number - and he 100% deserves that! - but just hope if Klay leaves, he doesn't sour on the Dubs so much that he doesn't want anything to do with the team.
Nobody talking about the fact that he owes the majority of his reputation to curry, stephs movement and draw of defenders has always got Klay the best looks, he won’t find that anywhere else and he’s already fell off. He’ll get paid but in all reality he’s done either way
These players today, live off social media so much, they forget about reality. He must've forget time is real, and his time is up. No team will pick him for less than 2 yrs. He's not risking youth for age at this point, that injury was too much for him, and he needs to accept that.
Morey stated he wanted a wing so its between LBJ (unlikely), PG13 (likely but depending on LAC offer), Jimmy Butler (most likely but depends on how many years Sixers are willing to offer).
OKC and Magic make a lot of sense for Klay in terms of impact on the floor. 76ers have too many question marks on roster before considering whether Embiid can get into a good playing weight or stay health.
No team is going to give Klay more than two years, and Monk has shown that $17-20mil per season is about the ceiling. Teams have money, but it doesn't mean they want to spend it because of their desire to be under the aprons. The Warriors are doing the right thing by letting Klay find out that the market isn't there.
Yeah, they didn't learn the lesson from the past few champions. Chasing stars won't help them win unless they all take a pay cut because having depth is key right now.
@@BaithNaThe Celtics literally have 4 all star caliber players in their starting lineup. That's the part y'all keep skipping over. What works for one team doesn't always work for another.
Make no mistake: if Klay leaves the warriors, it's for one reason alone: the extremely punitive luxury tax penalties that were put in the CBA agreed to last summer. Many of those restrictions were put in place specifically for the warriors. The 2nd apron penalties are draconian, and paying Steph, Klay and Draymond $100 million combined the next two seasons means the warriors are not winning anything. Klay is not what he once was. Moses Moody is the best SG on the team, and he needs to play as much as possible as quickly as possible. That being said, if Klay gets more money and more years someplace else, I wish him luck. I don't think it's going to happen, I still think 90% chance he re-signs with the warriors.
He’s not worth that kind of money any longer. Especially since he’s nowhere near the defensive player he was. It has nothing to do with the CBA. He is the reason meyers quit. He didn’t want to have to tell Klay no.
@@bwanimations7130 In NBA free agency, it's not how much you're worth, it's how much you can convince someone to pay. Remember: the reason the warriors do not have a first round pick in next week's draft is because Andre Iguodala flirted with Houston and several other teams as a free agent, which scared Lacob into offering Iguodala an extra year on his contract. The extra year had to be salary dumped in the summer of 2019 at the cost of the 2024 first round pick. Klay and his agent are no less sharp than Iguodala was. Klay has value to the warriors. There is value in keeping the big 3 together and in them all retiring never having played for another team. There is value to the fans in that, there is value in being able to sell merch with the big 3 from now to the end of time and no other team ever being able to sell a Klay Thompson jersey. The fans would be heart-broken if Klay left, and unhappy fans can lead to declining engagement and ticket sales and merch sales. Those same value parameters are how Draymond Green managed to leverage a gigantic overpay by the warriors one offseason ago. Draymond hasn't been a $25 million a year player for several years now, but he got the contract because of his closeness with Steph and how much the fans love him. You always overpay for talent in free agency, if Philly or Orlando believes Klay Thompson's skill set can take them to a new level, they'll offer him more than he is objectively "worth".
@@SuperSupersoda the financials are what bother me with sports, especially basketball. It would be great if he retired a Warrior but if they re-sign him we can safely count them out as contenders until the the big 3 retire. all this overpaying for players is at the cost of the fan base. More expensive to experience a game. Difficulty even being able to watch on tv. In 10 years where 90% of the shots will be threes will ruin the game.
@@bwanimations7130 I think the warrior's front office has already committed to a 2 year farewell tour for the big 3, that's why the team is not willing to add a third year to their offer. They want to move on, and get back to winning, but they have to contend with a very simple fact: the fan base doesn't necessarily want to win, they want to win another ring for the big 3 in general and Steph in particular. If you are paying Steph, Draymond and Klay over $100 million a year, there is no pathway to being a team that gets past the second round of the playoffs, absolute best case scenario. the fanbase is still delusional with the 2022 title; the warriors have missed the playoffs 3 of the last 5 seasons, the 2022 title was a last gasp miracle where everything worked out perfectly. Missing the playoffs altogether is this team's true level right now. Remember one other key thing: Joe Lacob does NOT own a majority stake in the franchise, he owns a plurality stake in the franchise. This means, unlike the overwhelming majority of other owners, Joe Lacob is vulnerable to a coup d'état attempt. If enough of the minority owners band together and push a vote of no-confidence in Lacob's leadership, they can remove him as owner. He can be outvoted. The reason why there is no chance of that happening is that Lacob might spend a ton of money, but the franchise value has exploded under his leadership, and exploding franchise value is what the minority owners care about. Winning or losing games, or championships, is not why most people own pro sprots teams, they own them to make money. Joe Lacob has a unique incentive to keep the fans happy, keep the merchandise sales strong and to keep Chase Center full every night. I'm guessing the minority owners want to keep the fans happy, and to make money, which means keeping Klay.
2 years 30m max. Or 3 years 30m max, hope for a ring. The warriors need to build, not pay dividends for past rings. Klay's injury took his mojo out. For years, he was paid to rest. It's time to get real.
it's better for him to stay in Warriors with Steph until their retirement! Like Kobe and others like him who stayed for their team. It hits different when you are one of those players who just in one team throughout all of your career and achievements that you made with that single team who drafted you even if it was in a trade draft swap scenario.
Tyler Herro can fit actually if Milwaukee wanted to forward the #12 to Miami, Miami might do that straight with no 2nds for the salary purposes. This would leave Milwaukee with Herro, Dort, Dieng, 4 1sts and 5 2nds for Giannis no one's beating that
No way I'd pay him a big long term contract. Kick rocks buddy. You don't get paid for what you did years ago, already been paid 100 times over for that.
5 1sts and 5 2nds, not necessarily all the ones from OKC going to Milwaukee. In this trade they can accept up to 31 more million minus the 3m slot for the #12 pick if applicable I believe.
Bring Klay to the the spurs. So he can teach the young guys hard work and how to shoot. He probably not ready to do that yet but id pick up that jersey real quick.
As an OKC fan, why the hell would we want a washed up Klay? We have plenty of shooters that are much more younger and versatile. Just because we have the assets and cap space doesnt mean any player that wants a max money is going to be signed by the team. OKC doesnt operate that way. Plus we still remember what he did to us in 2016. So hell no GS or other team can keep him
The warriors have enough young talent to start a rebuild, however with Steph there they are essentially in always win now situation. Even with kuminga breaking out and the other rookies showing flashes realistically it’ll take them 2 years to get good enough to even think about a title. While they are not gonna do it the best interest would be to either trade most of their young talent and klay, get a solid team around curry and commit to one last time, or call it quits and let klay Steph and dray go and commit to the younger players. Them trying to do both rebuild and compete is what made their season end the way it did.
Obviously Milwaukee could convert those 2nds soon. If they are 5 2029 2nds New York might give them the #23 and #24 (maybe Knicks get a player or expand the trade)Milwaukee would have 3 1sts in a row this year with 4 more 1sts coming
The question for me is how much do teams want to pay Klay in 3-5 years? The answer I'd give is not a damn dollar lol. 60 for 2 years sounds about right.
The Sixers are not going to wait for PG and aren't interested in Klay. And if we punt on trading for Ingram, then we will go the bargain hunting for good role players, while preserving 4 first round pics for a post Dec 15 trade. For the big shooting guard, I'd rather have the younger Hield at 12 M than aging Klay at 25 M. Klay seems to be high maintenance and he wouldn't work well with a Joel/Maxey led team. ORL will probably be going with KCP as 1st option, but if DEN matches, could switch to offering Klay 3 yrs.
Somebody is gunna pay klay regret it 😂🤦🏾♂️Orlando/kings/mavs/lakers is the only teams I see willing to pay him & be on a winning team he prolly can get a decent pay but short term contract
What is golden states goal for the future though? Like they’re obviously not a championship contender but like its not like they’ll be bad because they still have steph on the roster.
Honestly they need to shed payroll, too many players making greatly and I am sorry, but if you have a top 5 payroll, getting smeared by the Kings in the play in is not good or acceptable… o also hope they are looking for their next head coach too
Nice and balanced 2-3-4 for the roster of a 1st round level franchise these days anyway 😅 in the big picture it's like the team's getting a few 1sts for free 😏😏
Steph deserves to get another star in Golden State and give him a serious shot for another ring for what he has done. They shouldn't give a shi about their future and focus on building around Steph last good years.
Warriors! Get a big... Give steph a big man! There r many available this time. Get a big man for step🙏 if steph had a guy like steven Adams, he'll have eight rings by now.
As a thunder fan, I would disagree that getting Klay is something to look into tbh. While he would fit into the team, we already have players that are younger with similar skillsets so it would take up space for their development. More importantly, Klay is a mold of player that we just don't need as much. We really need a back up big for when Chet isn't on the floor like Kelly Olynyk or somebody else so if we do make a move like him, then we probably won't have as much as Klay may want since I believe that he is looking more towards money than another ring.
Malik Monk on a similar tier as Klay Thompson? Hell no, Monk is a much more dynamic player, a good playmaker, a great shotmaker and a clutch scorer. He might not be a good defender, but Klay isn't either. I'm willling to think Klay will provide some good shooting and spacing to certain teams, but he is not on the same level as Monk.
Klay Thompson is still a very good player, only prob is his big ego........that ultimately leads him to very bad shot selections....just sad really.... He had two good seasons to figure out that he isn't what he used to be, after coming back from two career ending injuries, that's obvious to everyone....but he just doesn't seem to be able to cope with that....sad really. Hope he can accept reality soon
Could someone other than the Warriors please sign Klank already. We need him off the team because it will be addition by subtraction. Moody is twice the player Klay is and he makes 20 million less.
SGA, JDub, Dort, Caruso, Wallace, Wiggins, Joe... There is no space on OKC to add any more perimeter players that want any sort of minutes at all... I am all in on position less basketball being the future and all... But Klay Thompson isn't playing the 4...
It would be so amusing if another team took him in with so much money just to not work out well. Dude still thinks he's still consistent as before but he needs to accept he's a role player now with all his injuries that happened. Bringing that prideful person in a young team like the thunder would just be too risky to make or break the team since he will be viewed as the veteran.
