The Water Crisis in the American Southwest || Peter Zeihan 

It's like when they move right next to an active volcano and then wonder why they have lava in the livingroom. (George Carlin quote)

Who’s complaining? I live in Las Vegas and never had a water issue. No lawn, but I do have a pool. Life is good 🤙

There IS water, just the prior appropriative use rights established in the western US isn't at all how the rest of the world plans out water rights, so you get REALLY sub-optimal water use planning and all the shortages just get blamed on newcomers instead of scaling everyone's water appropriations equally in dry years.

@@Schlabbeflicker There isn’t water in a desert by definition. This video points out the only reason people can live there is crazy extravagant engineering feats to move it there. Long supply lines by definition are fragile.

@@Mr_Fairdale Being a statistical sample of one isn't relevant to the general issues of your city. Las Vegas and Phoenix do and will continue to have struggles with water which is to be expected in a true desert. Not having grass is one of the sensible solutions. Preventing evaporation from a pool is another. I live in San Diego county and fully expect Colorado to turn down the tap and some point. CA needs to come to the realization that desalinization plants (and the accompanying electrical demand) will need to be implemented along the coast for long term planning. We're fortunate enough to have access to a large body of water although desal isn't an inexpensive option. Since we just experienced record rainfall this "winter" I'm sure everyone will become complacent again until the next drought cycle takes hold.

10:45am if you live in the UK.

​@Gutenmorgenside 2021 good morning :)

And if you throw in some 5am deadlifts, you're pretty much winning at life.

And if California gov Gary Newsom becomes president, he won't pressure CA to give up water to let other states grow

Ha! Being from CO and both formerly pre-law and academic counseling, I often suggested resource rights, mainly water, as a great specialization for burgeoning attorneys. Travels well globally if one makes a name for themselves too!

Not quite ALL of the time, even in Manchester!

*@Adam Lee* I never complain about the weather here in the Pennines cos I know other parts of the country WILL be struggling at some time later in the year.

I live in the midwestern part of the United States, which is actually more to the east, and we have abundant water.

@@user-kh8mg7ci5i well i was born here, i didn't have much of a choice

"It can't rain all the time." Brandon Lee, The Crow.

This is America dang it. You cannot take California's water for the common good

Isn't Arizona just as irresponsible continuing to build and do agriculture that it can't support?

Californian here, can you please point to the dams that you think have been removed so I can take pictures and make fun of you properly?

@@jaevric - I’m a former Californian. I lived through them doing that in the early 2000’s. It was done because the environtalists said those artificial lakes were harming the species that lived there and for the purpose of “environmental Justice” those lakes needed to be drained and dams removed. Asking someone to track down the details 20+ years later is a straw man argument, especially since your only purpose is to defend it if true and mock it if false, but not to actually recognize the reality that environmentalists are the cause of nearly every natural disaster that impacts CALIFORNIA presently and not the Climate Change boogeyman

@@Drew-gi5dw Dam removal projects take years and are major projects on par with building the things in the first place, and I have never seen any articles or other information regarding dam removals in California. Also, calling someone a liar in the absence of evidence while they are making a fantastic claim with loaded language that attempts to drive a political agenda is hardly a strawman. The only logical fallacy I see here is you attempting to blame environmentalists for conducting actions that never occurred. Also, I've actually lived here for 30 years, so I think I'd notice.

@@jaevric - you called me a liar from the beginning, so don’t play the victim now. And yes, it did take years, I’d guess, to drain those lakes and remove them, but again, happened while Bush was POTUS and we had the Governator, although I believe it was authorized before him about the same time as the disastrous attempt at deregulating only half of the electricity market. It’s interesting to me how Democrats do stuff, it turns out to be a disaster, and they either deny it happened or blame Republicans or anything else. ESPECIALLY environmentalists. Remember, it was also during that period that at the national level the environmentalists in the Federal Government terminated numerous other regulations related to preventing forest fires and large scale fires, such as controlled burns, for the exact same reasoning: it damages/destroys the natural habitats of creatures. That’s how we ended up with all these mass fires becoming more frequent, which are then blamed on Climate Change when they are man made not by burning fossil fuels but by failing to take responsibility for preventing their spread. Later they forced PG&E to divert funds for maintaining the electrical infrastructure to buying solar panels and wind turbines, making things even worse. And of course, just like with the production of solar panels, the efforts to save the environment are far worse for the environment than had they not tried to save the environment in the first place.

Environmental organizations such as the Sierra Club and NRDC have long opposed construction of any new water storage facilities, including the proposed Sites Reservoir. They also continue to oppose desalination. Remember the recently-killed Huntington Beach desalination project? Let’s hope no dam removals happen. (The enviros have been pushing to destroy Hetch-Hetchy for a long time)

There is for example a prolonged drought in the Po river plain in northern Italy. Much of the grain and rice that is produced in italy grows there. In spain continues the decertification where lots of fruits and veggies for the european market is produced. I am sure there are other examples.

@@AlfredMorganAllenou don’t read news? Barges couldn’t even navigate for a large part of last year.

Water is $0.01 by water truck for 1000 pounds. People just are spoiled and like to whine for subsidy to get even cheaper like their neighbor. Sand too went up a bit, to $.02 for 1000 pounds, but compared to cost of wheat or oil this is dirt cheap. No factory anywhere is water cost more than 1% of the cost of the product, humans with pipes and market have mostly solved water. It's just not limitless and free, so let's have perspective, not everything is nearing crisis levels. Arizona went from 1 to 10m since 1930 yet still manages.... Yes if try to grow watermelons in desert it'll be $20 water bill a melon, so literally just grow in Alabama, why do we even discuss this stupid problem, we have Alabama......

Tony Robins said, it’s not how few resources you have, it’s how resourceful you are. You have resources everywhere but you don’t do anything with it. I’ve seen so much rain water go into the sea and realized it’s such a waste. To help keep inflation down, Water flows can spin magnets generate electricity in dams. Rather than building oil pipelines, we could have a national rain water grid pipeline to use potential and kinetic energy water flows to generate electricity and water crops, etc. You could have perpetual energy and lower energy costs to keep inflation down. If pipeline leaks, it’s only water. The maintenance can create easy safe jobs in every state than oil pipelines.

coming up? it has been here for years. now its just too big to be overlooked

Points of clarification. The Colorado Compact gave allocations for water in the 1920s, not based on when your infrastructure was built. AZ has the second largest allocation, after Calif, because at the time it was the second largest population and, as pointed out, a major producer of fresh produce for the U.S. Still true today. No one wants to talk about where the replacement for all of the desert produce of today will come from if we remove all of those farms in AZ and Calif. It would be a massive hit to the US food supply. Second, all PHX golf courses and city parks use "reclaimed" water -- meaning treated effluent from sewage treatment plants. Lastly, the CAP canal came online in 1993. Before that PHX got all of our water from 6 reservoirs above the city, and Tucson from underground water. Those same 6 reservoirs still provide a large portion of the PHX metro water. One more food for thought, the last water supply reservoir built in AZ was Lake Powell in 1965. No one at that time saw the population explosion that would occur over the following 50+ years, in AZ or Las Vegas. There have been proposals to build more, but all have been blocked. As I type this, there is a large amount of flood water flowing across the desert that is not being captured by any reservoir since the 6 above PHX area currently full and there are none below them to capture this rare excess. This is also part of the desert climate. Long dry spells and truly massive floods... repeat. (For one day in March 2023, the Verde River had the same flow as the Mississippi River in Iowa! And that has happened a few times in the 32 years I have lived here.)

It would be Relatively Easy to Pipe Columbia River Water from Medford to California Reservoirs.. But???

@@donalbershardt9290 I would not be "easy". 1. Medford is on the Willamette, well upstream of the Columbia and not enough water even for Sacramento. 2. Too expensive, it has been priced out - not the least would be building resevoirs and cost of pumping water over the Siskiyou mountains. 3. You'd never get rights through all private lands. 4. You'd never get past environmental impact issues. 5. Then you'd have to negotiate you way through California water rights.

@@donalbershardt9290 the Columbia nonsense was politically crushed years ago,

@@donalbershardt9290 California once suggested that. It was received with the phrase 'cold dead hands'.

Florida here. Why do you call 14 inches of rain a flood?

There is old tech to capture as much rain water as possible. In India the villages compete with each other to build the most structures that capture rain water and they can grow more plants, trees, vegetables and fruit trees and food for their animals . Contest was started by Indian actor. In north Africa people are digging water saving half- moons into the ground/ desert to trap what little rain falls from the sky. The are growing more fruit and plants and keeping the Sahara desert from moving south. Man named Tony Rinauldo, from Australia? Who is reforesting many African countries by teaching farmers how to bring back the trees that were cut down decades ago. I think there is something called permaculture? And you use gravity and hills and the natural land to catch and save as much water as possible and next thing you know rivers are being created and trees and vegetables and fruit are growing. So many ways to go about this. It is about allowing water to get absorbed into the soil and keeping rain from washing away the top soil, and trapping into the ground as much rain as possible, when you only get one or 2 inches per year.

Because SoCal is not a flat swamp. It dries up into a nearly cement brick during the summer. Then when the rains come water gushes down ravines where the dancing media make a much bigger deal out of it than it actually is.@@matthewmcclary7855

⁠@@patphatkittenProblem is that Cali has barely invested in new reservoirs for decades… Rainwater storage is great if you have the space. Flooding large parts of SoCal isn’t something the farmers are interested in.

@@innosam123 yes, but it is the farmers that will dig the structures, as many as they have space for, to capture the rain so that they can water their fields, grapes, whatever they are growing,bring back some needed trees that still have roots underground, grow plants and grains for their sheep or cows, etc. The structures can be 2 feet across or smaller or as big as a small pond or bigger. They can go in the side of a mountain, etc. You are basically digging half moon shaped holes, man- made ponds and lakes, etc. There is a technology to it and there are several schools of thought. I think one is permaculture??. The other is Regenerative Farming ??? In Africa and they don't even collect rainfall and they don't plant trees. They bring back to life all of the trees that were cut down decades ago. They thought the trees were competing with their crops, but the trees help their crops by protecting soil and attracting water for their farms and animals. The farmers do the work of bringing trees back to life, once they are shown how and it happens very quickly by working WITH Mother Nature. So, many ways to go about it, all 3 methods based on science. The farmers in California will have to do it for themselves 🎉and each person in California with land, homeowners,will have to use one of these methods to water their own land and lawn. This could be done on a bigger scale IF the politicians knew about these methods and IF they want to. P.s. large, new infrastructures may not be needed, at first. Can't wait for politicians to do something.

The world isn't deglobalizing. It's globalizing in a different way, i.e. one that disfavors free markets.

Very interesting data. Thanks!

The challenge of water sustainability is something that is/ will cut across all sectors of the economy, nationally and globally, through food and energy pricing, and unlike the intangibility of carbon/ climate change that continues to confound civic/ business leaders, the tangibility of this challenge will become VERY real VERY quickly.

@@cletushatfield8817 Disfavors free markets or globalization? I ask only in that the globalization of last 25 years wasn't exactly free, be it thorough the subsidies/ regulations meant to support domestic industry or the externalizes (economic, social, and environmental) that were faced. Either way, I like the word disfavors, or at a minimum looking to discourage (in some areas, for a period of time).

@@RichardBrubaker Given comments from the recent Trilateral Commission in New Delhi, it appears to be a matter of increasing scale, centralization, concentration, what have you, of influence.

You're on it. As someone living in Tucson I have to say Phoenix is just California writ small. Wasteful, arrogant, and fumbling.

Yeah I work in Ag and the the way Arizona irrigates is so wasteful, California is an asshole in regards to using seniority to hog a-lot or the water, but on work trips to Yuma you see the difference in how wasteful they are with water. They should switch to drip systems like a lot of California Ag uses. That and I don’t think Peter is thanking “can the Southwest sustain the massive population boom we’ve seen recently? Should this many millions move into a desert that doesn’t have the resources to sustain such a population?”

Flood irrigation causes the maximum percentage of water to actually soak into the ground. It is best for deeply rooted plants, e.g. orchards. Drip is better for vegetable crops, but expensive to put in on real farms. Greenhouses are excellent, but expensive. Spray irrigation is absolutely wasteful, and daytime spray irrigation is absolute idiocy. Anyone doing daytime spray irrigation should lose their water rights.

@@robertschulke1596 that’s the thing about Yuma, they grow predominantly leafy greens, broccoli, cauliflower and herbs down there during the winter when we can’t grow in California. They don’t really do orchards, those stay in the Central Valley/ we get offshore fruit from Chile and Peru in the winter. Last trip down there we were talking about how sooner or later AZ is going to have to get on the drip system if they want to keep farming down there. California has a lot of work to do in updating is aging infrastructure that can help

Desalination plants would be the most resourceful thing to do, but everyone suddenly lacks imagination and will-power when it comes to something like this. We've lost the grit that settled the west in the first place! The transcontinental railroad, the california aqueducts, the panama canal, the interstate highway system, the stupid mandates during COVID. People is capable of growing the necessary genitalia when they value something. Start building a massive web of pipes from the west coast to the interior of the west. Today! Saying this is too expensive today, and that it will tak too long is the attitude of short-sided people who lack vision and appreciation for future generations.

There's a near future novel called The Water Knife that deals with all of this in a dry future

You mean all 57? Barrack's number not mine.

@@troythomason8032 On the campaign trail, Obama once mistakenly said "57 states", and of course trump jumped in with "the fake media never...". From this we can infer that in fifteen years trump never learned the difference between mistakes and lies. How could he? He NEVER makes mistakes.

​@@troythomason8032This from a four time loser, that supports a lying four time loser, facts.

​​​@@danyeager7561Yep, Trump lies _all_ the time, but his supporters _love_ it. I used to think evangelicals and conservatives put a higher premium on the truth, I was wrong, alas.

Wow. Trump just lives in your head like he owes rent. The conversation was about Obama. Keep up.

4th generation on both sides of the family on the western slope. Water wars and killing over water are a real thing. Smacked up side the head with a shovel or shot between the eyes the out come is the same. There is some serious emotions over water. This water year is going to be interesting. Mud slides, rockslides and flooding. Snowpack is biggest ever recorded. There is already damage with more to come. Luckily we have really good managers in this area. reservoirs are dumping at historic records for this time of the year. Ridgeway is the problem child with no spill way. They have it knocked down to historic lows to take on the incoming. I hope its enough. The glory hole can only take so much.

Pretty common Macroeconomics 201 way to handle the tragedy of the commons.

Ya, but our Columbia river water is a helluva lot clearer and cleaner! LOL

Tony Robins said, it’s not how few resources you have, it’s how resourceful you are. You have resources everywhere but you don’t do anything with it. I’ve seen so much rain water go into the sea and realized it’s such a waste. To help keep inflation down, Water flows can spin magnets generate electricity in dams. Rather than building oil pipelines, we could have a national rain water grid pipeline to use potential and kinetic energy water flows to generate electricity and water crops, etc. You could have perpetual energy and lower energy costs to keep inflation down. If pipeline leaks, it’s only water. The maintenance can create easy safe jobs in every state than oil pipelines.

I remember seeing aerial film of Phoenix, with green lawns and gardens, with a sudden change to arid scrub when the houses ended. Unsustainable.

​@@andylane247 hasn't changed. NV at least has been changing to native desert/drought resistant plants.

@@andylane247 Most AZ lawns are gravel, not all, but most.

​@@seapeajones no if they would give up their fountains.

Also that the ability of the Hoover dam to produce power is at issue.

I agree. Peter's voice is so enjoyable that I will happily listen to him speak on any topic whatsoever.

LA called dibs.

Almost NONE of the Colorado's water even originates in California, and almost all of California's river diversions leave the basin completely and end up some 250 miles away in LA. It's absolutely insane. You can bet if they built an aqueduct from the Columbia River a hundred years ago, they would still try and claim rights to the entire river today.

Fellow Arizonan, I couldn't agree more. Vast majority of the lower Colorado basin is fed by AZ rainfall. AZ uses only as much water now as the 1950s w/ 10x the population. AZ does not have the option of desalinization. Yet, California takes more water than anyone and spits in our eyes while doing so.

@@GeoffO856 I'm from the northern part of the state, we've had immense run off this year, the Little Colorado drainage is what's brought the resivors back up. Not cool knowing that water that ran off of my rocky slopes, is watering avocados a state away, instead of benefiting a neighbor downstream.

I’m just glad AZ had record rainfall over the past year. Our canals are full of water unlike a few years past.

California not getting absolutely everything it wants is always framed as betrayal

Keep in mind that California's politicians don't favor their farmers. If anything they hate them unless they are wineries and maybe these days marijuana farms. (Because most farmers are conservatives, even in California, excepting those groups.) California does however understand that a lot of people who leave move to Arizona and Nevada. So they have good reason to suppress those states.

@@shannonkohl68 thank you for mentioning the political hate

Huh. I guess this does provide an opportunity for the GOP if they win federally - either force them to renegotiate, or just pull an Andrew Jackson: hold the military back so they don’t do anything, and let Arizona, supported by the Texas national guard and local guard, build a dam, and tell the court to enforce their laws themselves. This can absolutely destroy a Democrat stronghold physically (sure they won’t vote for GOP ever again, but they already don’t do that, and they matter a lot less if they have a population collapse.) while gaining the support of several states, potentially even win over Colorado.

California has proven their managerial skills time and time again. California needs to add effort to their finely ground aggregate.

Till it dries up again

I grew up in Santa Clarita not far from pdale moved last year just before the water came back I was in ems/fire was so dry and water non existent.

@@WoodLifeCrisis I still have a lot of family out there. We moved to Missouri in the early 90's. I just kinda stayed. Lol.

Being surprised by dry in desert is like being surprised by cold in Minnesota, it's not mind-blowing, it's expected. Truck in water and it'll be $100 a month per house, this is not a crisis issue. Owners of water in west will sell for hi price, but whiners like to see if whining will work instead. I'm a whiner too, but gotta admit whining is not a good argument, I could just pay a medium bit. Water is literally cheaper per pound than sand, $0.01, it's fun how everything gets spun as crisis to see if whining will get govt help .. The psychology of crisis is cool, yell and ignore facts, sometimes it works. . . . No factory pays more than 1% of total cost of product on water, we humans have cheap water....

Mead has been in drought conditions for decades. Vegas is actually pretty conservative with water- with the water being recycled and/or re-entering the reservoir due to the fact the Vegas Basin drains into Mead.

Yes but it’s in Nebraska. Snow, tornadoes and the persistent smell of cow dung that wafts over the entire state. Hard pass on Nebraska.

Yeah, it’s great that you love your hometown, but the 1,000 miles away from major cities is a big drag. Also if you are into nature i.e. huge forests, mountains, buttes, beaches etc., Nebraska is a real snooze fest.

@@frankjennings4489 No reasonable person would suggest that anyone comes to any part of the Great Plains for the pretty scenery. I regularly drive across Nebraska to Denver and Colorado Springs. You are preaching to the choir. I actually enjoy the drive in spite of the drab view. But that's just a personal preference, and I completely understand why a person would dread making that trip. However, it's important to distinguish *good* geography from *attractive* geography. Eastern Nebraska and Western Iowa have great geography. Excellent soil, easy road and rail access, and more miles of rivers for navigation and irrigation than any place in the US - perhaps the planet. It's also important to distinguish nice weather from favorable climate. Nebraska's hot, humid summers and cold, windy winters are not a good draw for tourists. But they serve the purpose of driving agriculture exceptionally well. Zeihan is largely agnostic about aesthetics, with respect to his evaluation of a place's economic potential. After all, Omaha is basically a cold version of Dallas, from a geographic standpoint. And he is (rightfully, in my opinion) aggressively bullish on the Big D. Finally, you ought to recheck your mileage. Omaha is not "1000 miles from the next major city" - unless you narrowly define "major" as coastal. It's an easy day's drive to Denver, the Twin Cities, Chicago, Milwaukee, and Saint Louis. It's a two and a half hour drive to Kansas City. I certainly have criticisms with respect to Omaha. I think the basic conservatism (by which I mean philosophical conservatism, rather than political conservatism) of the local population has stifled growth opportunities in the past. Local taxes - especially real estate taxes - are incredibly high. And the rest of the state, addicted to Omaha-generated wealth and tax revenue, is loathe to allow Omaha tax revenue remain in Omaha at the expense of.... Well, whatever they spend our money on. And finally - I love mountains and sunshine and pretty forests as much as anyone. I do sometimes bemoan the lack thereof in my hometown. Nevertheless, that philosophical conservatism and Midwestern stoicism have placed the city in a fantastic economic position. They have furthermore shielded the region from the worst of economic downturns which have ravaged other parts of the country in recent years. Again, I'm not trying to be a billboard advertisement for transplants to come to Omaha. I'm personally bullish on the city because I see advantages we have relative to similarly sized cities and even some larger ones. I'm only curious to know what if any research Zeihan might have done on the region, and whether he shares my thoughts.

I wouldn’t mind living in Omaha, but I don’t think it has good, and varied job opportunities.

@@hectorcardenas2171 Do some research, my man. I understand why people think that, so I totally get why that would be your initial reaction. But Omaha is truly a powerhouse, economically speaking. Punches way above its weight. Headquarters to five of the Fortune 500, huge tech sector, health care, transportation, finance, engineering, ag science, etc, etc, etc. And wages relative to the cost of living are quite high. While Nebraska is a Right to Work state, Omaha itself is strongly pro-union. Something like 80% of local industrial and commercial construction is performed by union workers, the railroad is obviously heavily unionized, etc. People don't know it because it's in the middle of flyover country and the NFL hasn't got a franchise here (that's important to a lot of people, I guess). But, I'm telling you... When people visit for the first time, or find themselves transplanted for work, they're astonished. From the arts, to public safety, to the quality of local education, to nightlife, to local events... The city has got much more going for it than most people appreciate. Fun fact - Omaha's ethnic demographics mirror those of the United States as a whole - almost exactly. IE: if the US as a whole is 13% Latino, 13% black, 5% Asian, 2% native American, 68% white, that's about exactly what Omaha looks like. That's why national companies test market new products here. If it sells in Omaha, it'll sell everywhere.

Agreed! Normalize brown lawns!

I think las Vegas was paying residents to rip out the grass and go to a natural landscape.

To quote an old article: "The front lawn is the most expensive crop in the world, and you can't eat it."

Maybe need to start promoting shade covers for these reservoirs. or Floating solar power?

I'm five-generation Yuma farmboy, but now live in the Phoenix area. Yes, it often feels as if rain is a myth here-- especially in Yuma, more so in Yuma than anywhere else in North America (perhaps excl. Death Valley). Yuma is an agricultural paradise. Citrus, dates, pecans, cantaloupes-- and most especially, in terms of our national food supply, winter vegetables. With our mild and balmy winters, sandy soil and ample sunshine, no other place in the country can duplicate the wintertime agricultural productivity of Yuma County, AZ. Scary to think how much of our nation's winter vegetables come out of one Arizona County even while California's fingers are tight on the spigot. We're just an hour from the Gulf-- if they had drawn the Gadsden Purchase just another 50 miles to the south, Arizona would have had that beach! But the talk of building a pipe from Santa Clara, Sonora, to Yuma, and then up the Gila River to Phoenix and Pinal County: Seriously, you really wanna trust Mexico with the security and management of the pipe, pump and nuclear desalination infrastructure over the first fifty miles of this artificial anti-river flowing upstream? This state is also a wintertime golfing mecca-- and the amount of water required to keep the golf courses green is nothing short of obscene. But meanwhile, there are reservoirs all over the Rocky Mountains, both large and small, whose main contribution to the world consists of trout fishing, duck hunting and water skiing. We all need to make changes and sacrifices, and the changes will hurt.

"Climate change" is a natural constant since the beginning of the world. It's not a separate entity, like a layer put on top of static "normal". Goodness.

There is a similar thing happening between China(BRICS) and South East Asia(ASEAN).

You may not be aware, but this actually happens throughout much of Mexico and Central America, and even parts of South America. I experienced this and Guatemala and El Salvador as well. It has to do with their water, treatment capacity and ability to produce enough potable water. These locations had no drought issues whatsoever and received significant amounts of water

@@damienbates That is interesting. To be fair at least three of the TJ shut downs were infrastructure related, ie. Having to pump over hills and a fast growing, poorly planned city? My experience in central Mexico has been perfect, but those too are more touristed places.

Deal with it. We only have so much land that gets all this sun. And our farm land is YOUR farm land. Vegas recycles 100% of their water. AZ was set to do the same thing decades ago but retards put a stop to it. Morons. The fact is we have the tech and capability to do the same. I have no fears over this. Whats on the table is someone paying big bucks to make that all happen.

Aren't soy and alfalfa part of a crop rotation to keep the soil productive, though?

@@jimluebke3869 Alfalfa is a very thirsty plant, isn’t there better things to grow like wheat or corn?

​@@xdCrispy-Crisss Too hot for wheat. Corn is also thirsty and needs fertilizer. The arid climate deters some of the pests, so AZ agriculture isn't so crazy.

The easy answer is to cut agriculture. Growing crops in AZ is really dumb. Growing it somewhere else isn't a big deal except for a few farmers growing orange juice and cotton in Phoenix. It ultimately requires a correction of first in time, first in right.

He fair gets around!! No wonder he excuses carbon footprints lol

Energy intensive, loud (so expect the NIMBYS), expensive & brine disposal is an eco problem. But you get water. Open sea vapor harvesting looks more promising on every front.

@@seapeajones Mostly correct. Energy intensive (CA's grid struggles with above average A/C usage during hot spells so it isn't ready for additional loads), loud (so expect the NIMBYS) [High pressure pumps running inside a building don't create a local noise issue. I've been around the Carlsbad desal plant and heard nothing, but I agree the NIMBYs will always be a problem anywhere on the coast], expensive (True and 50% of it is paying off the jackass environmentalists) & brine disposal is an eco problem (I disagree. Run the concentrate water out via pipe 1/4 to 1/2 mile into the ocean and the roughly 60,000 ppm water will blend very quickly with the roughly 30,000 ppm water. The amount of drain water produced by a desal plant is negligible to the volume of the ocean). Interested in open sea vapor harvesting, but even a bigger NIMBY issue than a desal plant every 50-100 miles up the coast.

@@seapeajones Energy intensive or not, other countries do it, CA is one of the largest economies on earth, the can afford it, if not for the corruption.

@@gregoryclifford6938 called rainwater collection.....

People from dry countries will move there in droves Sound familiar?

The UK has a lot of resources for the British to flourish. Not so much when you invite in half of Africa and Asia lol

Which is why California should probably be last on the list of priority, because they actually have the tidewater access to build Desal plants.

LOLOL exactly

How dare you point out the obvious!

And then had northern European features like lawns and golf courses that look like Scotland. 😅

​@@julianshepherd2038 dont forget the big outdoor swimmingpool

The Californian gov't, and those who vote for said current gov't, haven't a f*cking clue about solving real world environmental issues. Good to know sharing resources doesn't apply to them too.

Storage crisis, like with renewable energy loads of power not enough storage, renewable water (AKA rain) not enough storage, a big chunk runs into the Ocean!?!

Sociopaths talk about a "people crisis". "We just need less people!" And how do you propose that? "Forced sterilization and Mass Euthenasia!" Real Humanitarians.

More like a cancerous COVID bug will be on the loose soon!?!

Orange County CA just chose not to build a desalination plant after discussing for a decade? Environmentally bad as it increases the salt in the water and the oceans are beat up as is. If they won't allow it for themselves it's hard to see how they would allow it for another.

It reminds me of Californians, building a log home in the middle of a California desert complain cause they lost their house to fire.

U mean in a middle of a forest???

There were also machine gun nests above Hoover Dam if I remember correctly lol

And yet still proportionately not as well represented as far less populous states.

Yeah, that's not going to happen. Certainly neither politely nor quickly. This will need to be settled in the courts.

It's one of the trade off's you need to make. You get the consistent weather and climate that you feel comfortable in, but unfortunately the trade off is you have to have fake grass. I don't think that's an unreasonable trade. Nevada has to do it

Do you harvest any rainwater that does occur??

@@kaythegardener I'd need guidance for that, I've been considering using bath water and sink from dishwasher to add to our sprinkler system by taking a big bucket and just dumping it out there. Not sure how to be efficient in this, but if anyone has any advice on DIY rainwater or water usage to grass/flower conservation, I'm willing to learn. In fact, I'm starting my research this week.

​@@wanbcwboyin some states it's actually illegal to capture rainwater, I think it is in CA, check the regs for your state then search RU-vid for rainwater capture systems I'm sure there are a million prepper videos about building them (you'll start getting weird ads tho). Also got to worry about the stored water going bad and mosquitos, so research it thoroughly.

@@kaythegardener Rainwater is few and sparse. Not that much except for maybe 2-3 week window of the year, but most of it is drained or accepted already in our soil as it's not as hard as most people believe.

Get ready for the big letdown when that water crisis doesn't appear. Yes, there has been a 20-year drought, but that is common, and things are looking up given this last winter's rain and show and El Nino on the way. One could predict the reverse of the drought just as easily as predicting the drought to continue.

I think the video on Appalachia will just be a video on the Jones Act.

I’m outside of Detroit on a lake. We have more water than we know what to do with. But we’re never sending it to the southwest. Let them fight over their little water. They chose to live in a desert

@@richardeinheuser5529 I agree 100%! I can see the Columbia river from my house, up here in S.E. Washington, and feel the same way! Leave my river alone!

Appalachian here, we don’t want you here. Stay home

Im surprised he didnt mention that in detail. Werent you? or did I miss it?

The oldest people on the planet are the San peoples (also Saan), or Bushmen according to their genes. They have always lived in the desert. In a nuclear war ending in a nuclear winter, they will probably be the only ones left. Maybe. Hmmm You nuke e, I nuke you, nuclear winter. We all die.

You mean they are "out of the drought" for the moment.

Colorado River basin is the problem...central and South California are going to have floods this spring and summer from snowmelt.

One lucky year changes nothing

LMAO what are you? the fucking gatekeeper? stop crying.

Thank you; this was completely glossed over.

Tony Robins said, it’s not how few resources you have, it’s how resourceful you are. You have resources everywhere but you don’t do anything with it. I’ve seen so much rain water go into the sea and realized it’s such a waste. To help keep inflation down, Water flows can spin magnets generate electricity in dams. Rather than building oil pipelines, we could have a national rain water grid pipeline to use potential and kinetic energy water flows to generate electricity and water crops, etc. You could have perpetual energy and lower energy costs to keep inflation down. If pipeline leaks, it’s only water. The maintenance can create easy safe jobs in every state than oil pipelines.

The fact that CA dumped trillions of gallons of fresh water into the ocean a few years ago to make a fake crisis and instantly blame it on "climate change" tells me they need to put CA at the bottom of the stack immediately and charge them 20x the normal amount for water. They can't be trusted. Ever.

Not really. Having over 20 million immigrants here jacks up our water usage and building small towns in forests leads to devastating forest fires. The “environmental policies” here are mainly fake virtue signaling nowadays

I've seen many people poop in their diapers and spread it around the room.

50.000 NORTH KOREAN SPECIAL FORCES DEPLOYED TO UKRAINE, 500.000 STANDARD SOLDIERS FOLLOWING ! ! ! WHERE'S PETER'S STATEMENT?!

yes democrats have failed to properly manage the environment in Cali for decades, but we need to give them more power to control more 😂 unfortunately their delusional voters like Pete here gobble the propaganda right up

Agreed. Seems foolish, even if water rights were changed or updated. Even more people would end up moving to Arizona, causing continuous strain on their water supply.

No matter. Central planning and Socialism will save us all

Does it not run north to south?

50.000 NORTH KOREAN SPECIAL FORCES BEING DEPLOYED TO THE UKRAINIAN WAR THEATER, 500.000 STANDARD SOLDIERS FOLLOWING ! ! ! WHERE'S PETER'S STATEMENT?!

That may be how the current intakes work, I don't know but Arizona of course has control over much more of the Colorado than Nevada (or California) does. All it would require is building an intake that is upstream from Nevada. Obviously we're ignoring what the courts would say about that. But when push comes to shove, Arizona can control all that water if they want to. I would also point out that about half of Phoenix's water supply comes from the Salt River, which joins the Colorado downstream from Nevada.

But didn’t Peter just say that California is at the top of the water list, and Arizona was at the bottom? So technically CA’s straw is the deepest. Everyone else’s consumption can go to zero before CA has to cut. According to Peter the other states agreed to cut if CA would agree to cut as well, and CA told them all to go pound sand. Which is why the other states just want to pull out of the agreement, take the water they need, and let the courts work it out in the next generation.

Our aquifers in Phoenix have about a 20 year supply and the state has a 100 year supply of groundwater. The problem is the state government is selling off the groundwater to various corporate interests at too quick a pace. And we're not replacing it fast enough, if at all.

​@@captiveamerica1776 exactly. Made a deal with Saudi Arabia to line the pockets of local politicians.

Yeah they will. Lol. Do you think poor people run the world?