The Weird History of the NASCAR Overtime

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In 2004, a race between Jeff Gordon and Dale Earnhardt Jr would end prematurely thanks to a teammate spinning out, and multiple circumstances prior to the Spring Talladega Race. The result would cause the race to end under caution and upset the entire fanbase in Talladega. NASCAR decided to come up with a rule change to help lower the chances of a race ending under yellow thanks to the new Overtime Rule. What NASCAR didn't realize at the time, was that this change would lead to a near 20 year rabbit hole that no one saw coming. Today, we go around in circles discussing the weird history of the NASCAR Overtime.
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Комментарии : 44

@IOSARBX 20 дней назад

Vanillawafer, Keep grinding!

@vanillawafer176 20 дней назад

I definitely will! Thank you so much!

@jasonstraight1320 20 дней назад

Only one OT attempt is necessary. -If there's a late-race caution, it takes the pressure off safety personnel to make sure the track is ready for a restart. -Limits carnage. -Keeps the race from bleeding over their airtime. As SpiderMan would say, "Everybody gets one."

@boo1_gaming927 20 дней назад

Motorsports is a very dangerous sport, so to put drivers in a position to potentially get seriously hurt or even get killed just to finish the race under green to please the fans is irresponsible. Ryan Newman could have died in the 2020 Daytona 500 because of overtime, and now, he's out of the sport and hasn't been the same ever since. Plus, ending a race under caution isn't a bad thing, and not everything has to be exciting. Not every football game is a deadheat. Neither is NASCAR, but the Frances may disagree. Plus, overtime doesn't add excitement to me.

@adamalfredsson373 20 дней назад

I totally agree with you

@TheBoringLlama 16 дней назад

No offense to newman but he should have been out the sport at least 2 years before 2020

@extramile150 14 дней назад

well said.

@jaykizer3488 20 дней назад

11:57 That spin actually traumatized NRF Productions.

@vanillawafer176 20 дней назад

Hell, it traumatized me too haha

@duncachinoahimiha3889 20 дней назад

Me too 😔

@chrisuncleahmad 20 дней назад

I sometimes wonder what if one of the other cars that finished top 5 that day (Kevin Harvick, Jimmie Johnson, or Robby Gordon) had been in the lead when that last caution flew Had an RCR car ended up winning or Jimmie when he had yet to win a title…… is that viewed any differently by the fans in the stands?

@codileger4876 20 дней назад

I’m glad someone finally made a video on this. I pulled the data after Nashville being curious and crazy to find that 1 in 5 races since 2004 have it, and that when overtime occurs the winner from advertised distance changes 37 percent of time. Also Jimmie Johnson statistically is the best OT driver of all time

@metronorthfoamer4085 20 дней назад

i still wonder if had that caution not happened in 1998 dale sr would’ve been beaten by bobby labonte

@JackLikesTrackhouse 20 дней назад

I’m an overtime supporter personally but I will say it’s been a little overkill this year. Michigan this year is a prime example of an unnecessary occurrence of one. I was at Indy for the whole debacle with Preece’s spin. I wasn’t mad about the ending and seemingly not many people there were, but I think Larson winning probably helped.

@connor.f 20 дней назад

This channel is underrated

@pugzilla330 20 дней назад

I think they should bring back the overtime line, BUT, make it so the LAST car on track has to cross it, not the first. Then put it at the exit of turn 2 (or maybe the backstretech for short tracks), so that the track is totally clear for the leaders to slow down after the finish. Doing this with infinite overtimes (or a high limit like 5) will keep the finishes untainted by super late in the lap cautions while keeping everyone safe. There is no reason a crash out of turn 4 at Daytona on the last lap should lead to a caution before the leaders reach the line. Of course, this does lead to the same caution manipulation scenarios as before, but making the cautions more objective is a separate beast of an issue Nascar has.

@bobbybrandon584 20 дней назад

I still can't believe Dillon didn't go into the stands.

@csxtrainfan319 20 дней назад

Nascar fans are spoiled, they hated 1 attempt, hated 3 attempts, hated the overtime line, and this unlimited attempts

@Mystogan553 19 дней назад

It always felt like unlimited attempts were inevitable. I wish they would've just done that to begin with. Also love the Mcjuggernuggets references

@vanillawafer176 19 дней назад

Always have to reference Mcjuggernuggets when a raging moment happens haha

@LucasGR88 6 дней назад

I think NASCAR should allow unlimited restarts with 3 laps to finish because there would be several chances for winners and many battles in the decisions to finish the races. Regarding the yellow flag on the last lap, the only thing I say is to improve and restart the race. If something happens on the track, a yellow flag is issued, announcing that there will be a restart. The grid organizes itself and restarts unlimitedly until the race actually ends. Will it take long? IT WILL, but only in this way so that the drivers can resolve themselves and actually finish the race so that it does not end in controversy and at the same time the track and NASCAR officialdom team do not have problems with the unlimited restarts of 3 laps and on the last lap as well, because throughout the history of the sport there have been several moments when they failed and did not throw the flags at the right time. I say this because it is real and it applies to all NASCAR series.

@MoltenRage41 20 дней назад

I'm mixed on overtime it could be really good but my problem isn't overtime it's how it's officiated NASCAR is not consistent with overtime rules like what we saw at Indianapolis Preece should have been a caution the car was not going to get back rolling but they waited till the White Flag to throw it if they could officiate it better than I would love overtime Also it shouldn't be unlimited it should only be one overtime if the drivers can't finish under Green in 1 overtime then they don't deserve to do it multiple times but hay that's just my opinion.

@Dupontman627 20 дней назад

Ricky Stenhouse Jr is to blame for the Richmond fiasco

@ic3man 20 дней назад

I’d suggest a one lap dash instead of 2 laps. Waive the green and white together and there be no cautions on the final lap

@fryBASS 19 дней назад

I blame Jr. Nation for overtime AND the Chase/playoffs

@SpectralUmbreon197 20 дней назад

Overtime has become so common lately that I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Nascar makes it an actual rule to throw a random caution within 10 or 5 laps to go to guarantee a GWC, because that just sounds like something that they would do unironically. (Please don’t bring this into existence, I swear to God)

@FallingPicturesProductions 19 дней назад

No need to do it, like a fifth of the field are so low quality in skill and respect that they'll make something happen almost like clockwork.

@duncachinoahimiha3889 20 дней назад

Red flag the race for any caution under 5 to go. Race back to the line if it’s safe. Tick down at least a lap for every restart. Problem solved

@RooneyMac 19 дней назад

10:13 what track is this?

@lordvoldemort4944 20 дней назад

Yeah, actually you do have some incorrect information. NASCAR did give green and white finishes and it did happen a couple of times.

@vanillawafer176 19 дней назад

Not counting the All Star race in 2022 or the ARCA series, when has NASCAR done an overtime finish with a Green and White at the same time?

@thebestbomberintheworld 20 дней назад

when is next video for when nascar froze

@vanillawafer176 20 дней назад

I just released one prior to this, I will get a couple going for October

@thebestbomberintheworld 20 дней назад

@@vanillawafer176 i watched all of them thats why im asking

@vanillawafer176 20 дней назад

@@thebestbomberintheworld I guess I got to speed up my content making skills haha

@thebestbomberintheworld 20 дней назад

@@vanillawafer176 lol

@oscarjimenezsr.560 20 дней назад

I'm so glad Dale Earnhardt Sr never won any of his races with GWC

@lordvoldemort4944 20 дней назад

Well, they didn’t have them back then, unless it was a scheduled distance version

@RooneyMac 19 дней назад

What? Ya think he wouldn't just go and race it out? Hell I thought y'all said he loved racing so much that he'd do it constantly. Why wouldn't he go for a couple more laps?

@oscarjimenezsr.560 16 дней назад

@@RooneyMac GWCS were never needed

@RooneyMac 16 дней назад

@@oscarjimenezsr.560 hell he might have some words about stage racing too, but I'd imagine he'd still race ya for it! But how the fuck would any of us know? The only one that would really know is Dale. But he's dead, so 🙄

@metronorthfoamer4085 20 дней назад

Personally, I disagree with overtimes being the best way to determine a winner. There’s a reason no other racing series does something like this, it results in more accidents. Bunching up the field again, especially at superspeedways, will only breed more cautions, and eventually you get the races of attrition. Yes attrition already happens (Coke Zero 400’s best cars were all wrecked out during normal racing) but finishing at scheduled distance saves cars and money.