What an absolute power move to put chapters on your video, but also to make sure that the first actual show you cover isn’t marked from where you start covering it, but right towards the end of the ad so that even if people want to skip what you’re shilling they know what your advertising anyway. Nobody’s still gonna buy it but at least you got the money.
My favorite Scoobyless Scooby Doo show was the obscure "Scrappy & Yabba-Doo," which I don't think I've seen anyone cover on RU-vid. I doubt Scooby fans under 35 would know about it.
God I wish they had the balls to add Scrappy to Velma without adding Scooby. Edit: Well this aged... interestingly. Still not a good show, but props nonetheless.
They probably have the balls, but are they clever enough to think of it? I believe not having Scooby Doo was like their only guidline for season 1, so all the obscure family members should be fair game.
The annoying thing about Velma to me is that it was that the producers and writers of the show obviously did not want to write a Scooby-Doo show and in the process wasted some very good horror animation on a show that didn't want to exist.
It didn't help that they didn't give their audience any credit whatsoever. So many of the jokes felt like the writers grabbing the audience by the collar, shaking really hand and screaming "DO YOU GET IT?"
@@davidhill2020they hate the audience just as much as they hate the source material. It's more like a show written by showrunnners for showrunnners/executives
@@hxr717 I think this is the inevitable result of the "Everything Must be in a Franchise" mentality. I can only imagine how much writers resent having to make everything fit in to a preexisting property and it shows in the works that are seething with contempt for the source, IDK if this team could have made a good original IP but maybe if they were not shackled to a property they CLEARLY didn't want to be working on they could have made SOMETHING interesting instead of wasting their energy on making something they resented working on, but instead so much of media is forced to constantly rehash decades old properties over and over and over because it is the only thing producers will green-light.
I have to disagree there. Matthew Lillard is great, but he's still doing an impression of Casey Kasem's Shaggy in the same way that Jack Nicholson's great, but he did an impression of Caesar Romero's Joker.
@@davidhill2020 To be fair, you'll find a lot of Shaggy's voice actors just try to do an impression of Casey Kasem's Shaggy. Lillard is the best at that cause his voice feels the most its own.
I didn't realize just how obscure Scooby-Dumb was. I had very vague memories of him, and my dad actually has pretty strong memories of him, to the point where he's begun referring to our harlequin great Dane as Scooby-Dumb. So to learn that he only appeared in 4 episodes of a pretty obscure Scooby iteration is kinda surprising to me.
@@ribbodile6225im pretty sure that is also pretty obscure. I mean i only remember seeing reruns of it once while i was growing up, and that was on boomerang for like i think a special marathon.
same here, i mean . . . i'm not even that old, i'm 27, and i hace CLEAR memories of whatching at least 3 out of those 4 chapters on boomerang (when it used to recicle old hannah barbera animations) and even in some scooby-doo specials in CN, i even remember HIM out of all characters in one of those publicity videos of early CN. and i know that my sister (who is also a huge fan) know the whole scooby familly rigth out of her head (including scooby-dee).
Scrappy is only really brought up to say how much of a mistake he was but I’d say Scooby-Dum is more deserving of that. I guess after Mystery Inc people wanted or were expecting more of that and hate that Be Cool was more comedic, even though Scooby Doo was never really that serious of a franchise to begin with.
i like be cool but the reason it was so much more hated than it deserved was bc it came off the heels of mystery inc which was pretty much the opposite
Yeah no the other reply is right it was just the artstyle (for most people I've seen at least). I didn't watch Mystery Inc as it aired, so I didn't have that perspective, but I was just looking through Scooby shows one day online and saw Be Cool and thought "Wow this artstyle sucks I hate this" and never gave it a shot, but hearing about in this video, it actually sounds really good and I'm very tempted to check it out. I can't imagine there being anyone out there who would dislike the fact that a comedy franchise is comedic.
@@Griever49Well a lot of Scooby shows had been lasting for two seasons for a while. Mystery Incorporated, Be Cool, Guess Who, and hopefully that one. Still I really wish the two could have a third season.
I feel like Be Cool is the inverse to Velma. Bad art style but some of the best writing as a comedy. Velma has at least a pleasing art style but the writing is the most generic adult cartoon you can get. At least people are gradually appreciating it, along with Rise of the TMNT and Star Trek Underdeck for abandoning them and ignoring genuinely great cartoons that we constantly whining for.
man i think be cool is probably one of the funniest cartoons of the 2010s if not the funniest. but i think opinions are changing cause people are giving it a chance. finally.
Be Cool Scooby Doo wasn't bad at all, the issue was that it came just after Mystery Inc. From a show focused on melodrama to one focused on comedy, it was a big 180 turn.
I didn't mind the 180 personally. I was just so used to scooby doo being like Be Cool because of What's new the only thing really bothering was the style but I got used to it. Mystery Inc still peak though.
I actually really did not like Mystery Inc bc it added a lot of lore that I just couldn't get behind. No shade to the fans, just not for me... But Be cool was just pure comedy fun. It never tried to be anything else and I really enjoyed it :) The art style never bothered me tbh
Pay attention and you'll see that if there's one thing Scooby Doo is good at, it's 180s. Once a show runs its course it's expected for the next iteration to go in another wildly different direction.
@gameb9oy I've tried watching it twice. The second time I made it through the first season before realising that I just wasn't having any fun with it. The worst part when it came to relationships, for me, was Velma. She got jealous over a fucking dog! That show made her plenty unlikeable even without Mindy Kaling.
I gotta say, Be Cool Scooby Doo is an utter Gem and deserved like another season or 2! AND it had its own over arcing story we don't find out until the season 2 finale!!! but I've grown up with scooby Doo and have seen almost every interaction (Haven't seen Velma but have seen all the others). The dog has been through a lot.
Velmas network only has like 3- 4 animation series so it's not even like it necessarily has a lot of views. It's just comparatively to their other animation series which is normal since it's their most well known animation ip.
HBO also never showed any sort of statistics or anything like it to the public, so they can very easily lie about it like other media companies have done before when they don’t show anything to the public.
I really did want Velma to be good- to prove everyone wrong and not to judge something before it come out but- It wasn’t good- They just made Velma so unlikable! I just felt bad for all the other characters :(
I judge all things before buying/seeing things...Especially when I know the history of the people making it or if they are trying to push certain things through said product/show. Especially when it comes to doing what they did to the characters and it showed in the writing of Velma. Though to be fair I hate most modern movies and shows so I tend not to watch a lot of modern things...Do to poor writing and/or acting.
I legitimately struggle to imagine, how exactly you were able to hold out any kind of hope for this show ^^ From the very first trailer snippet I saw, I could've told you - start to end - how exactly the show was going to play out.
Velma is so baffling to me that the show runners actually thought it was mature. I'm sure that they just used the Scooby-Doo IP just to make Mindy Kaling look good and failed miserably.
Velma really looks like all those really bad adult shows that came out a few years ago as family guy ripoffs, and I would argue that, by itself, it is not as bad as some of those, but the fact that it uses the Scooby-doo IP is what makes it go from bad to insulting
I think they saw how well Harley Quinn was doing and said, "that, but for Scooby Doo". It was an interesting idea to make it a prequel (which is why there's no Scooby Doo and Shaggy uses his real name) but it was poorly written.
I put off Be Cool for SO LONG because of the animation and then proceeded to finish it in less than a week LOL I am not surprised you also enjoyed it because I favor 13 Ghosts as well and it is just really reminiscent of that with interpersonal plot due to committing to the bit mixed with a regular scooby doo formula. Shaggy/Daphne basically being a married couple is my favorite gang pairing too, it just works so well
Headcannon: Scooby and Shaggy are actually incredibly rich due to their families and personal accomplishments (I think Shag is an olympic athlete, eating champion, food critic/cook, pilot, ect.) They act like goofballs cuz they never liked the glory and high life their pedigree and accomplishments earned them. The love their friends more than the fame and fortune. It's why despite being scared every mystery, they still go along with it. The fun they have with their friends always outweighs the absolute terror they experience every time. Ironically, a lot like Cars Mater.
I like the idea that they keep being left cursed estates from estranged relatives and have learned to just never touch that money because weird stuff happens whenever they do.
My conspiracy theory about Velma: Scooby is absent and Shaggy goes with his birth name because the Shaggy&Scooby duo are a separate part of the IP (indeed they starred alone in quite a bunch of movies and TV-series) and the show didn't get the rights to use it. Norville has so little in common with Shaggy (just the green T-shirt) that can be considered an OC of this series.
The Velma cartoon was such a bad turn for the Scooby Doo franchise I hope the team behind SD have a plan or this could be the end of our favorite mystery solving dog.
@@arsenelupin9697 I was impressed with the crossover movie with Courage the Cowardly Dog and I am hoping to see more classic CN characters meet Mystery Inc, but they better not pull a stunt like Return to Zombie Island ever again.
my headcanon has ALWAYS been that Shaggy owns the mystery machine, legally, its under his name, but Fred is just so emotionally attached to it and Shaggy isn't possessive (or confrontational) enough to push back on that
My head cannon was Shaggy was gifted this machine by one of his many reach relatives, but since he doesn't have right at the beginning of the show, he allow Fred to drive it.
Be Cool Scooby-Doo is easily among my top three favorite Scooby shows. The humor is laugh out loud funny. As for Velma, my main issue with it is the pop culture/meta humor was too on the nose and didn't allow for subtlety like a lot of the best episodes of Community had.
Or a running gag where he is well knowledge on drugs and chemicals but everyone thinks he's a Crack head hippie when in reality he just spends a lot of time with his Uncle Albert, who's a forensics cops in this timeline
Can’t wait for you to keep tackling these shows, movies and specials. I’d love to see you cover “Night of the Living Doo”, “Bravo Dooby Doo” and the uber-repetitive “Guess Who”.
The last time I watched the show was 10 years ago and I didn’t think that show was bad at all. But looking at these retrospective reviews, I’ve definitely understood a lot more why it wasn’t looked at well. And as someone who loved Johnny Test when I was young, It completely clicked when Billiam said it felt like a mix of that show + Phineas and Ferb. Also Scott Menville’s voice acting of Shaggy sounds way worse than I remembered it!
Fun fact! The Hanna Barbara sound effects are used all the time, and it makes me feel like a crazy person every time I recognize one! I'll just be watching Adventure Time, hear a little boioioioingggg, and I'm like ah yes, I know this sound from Pajama Sam
They animated the hell out of that Doo-Dum cousin greeting for their budget, so they were gonna repeat that whenever they had the excuse. Also, I'm probably one of the few people who loved Be Cool, Scooby-Doo, art style and all, because as much as a loved Mystery Inc having another show reset their dynamics to still fun but with minimal character drama was pretty nice. And the little tweaks to the characters while still maintaining their overall archetypes I also felt were done well. And I too am a Shaggy x Daphne shipper. There's dozens of us-DOZENS!
We gotta find a way for this guy to talk about Scooby Doo again. He’s simply too good! Don’t know about my favorite weird iteration. What’s New & Pup will always be the most nostalgic to me. Best weird one would probably be the Scooby, Shaggy, and Scrappy movies like Ghoul School.
So bottom line, I would've hated Velma even if it's good because Mindy Kaling is a piece of shit, she openly admitted to assaulting one of her co-workers on the Mindy Show in a Conan interview but since it's a man being assaulted by a woman nobody cares. That being said, I still think it's bad because it really just flies in the face of what Scooby-Doo has always been, a group of friends from many different walks of life who came together as outcasts over a mutual love of solving mysteries, and the show didn't really feel like they were friends at any point, I mean in the first scene Velma shows up at school and hits a girl with a lead pipe!? What the heck?!? I'm not sure I've heard anyone who likes it, I mean it got lower scores than Dragonball Evolution, that movie was the lowest rated piece of media ever until Velma came out, people watched it yeah, but they hatewatched it, but views are views there is no such thing as bad publicity so its getting a second season and I'll pray it gets cancelled
It got a second season before it came out. It's actually a common practice that happens with TV shows. It happened with the last of us. I'm just pointing out the second season misconception.
I still think my favorite is mystery incorporated. I’ve rewatched it a couple times and it still holds up. I like shows that are one off episodes, and it expanded the lore
I'm glad Be Cool. Scooby Doo is getting some love. I'm sad a lot of people rejected it just for not being Mystery Incorporated (and them shoving it onto Boomerang) but the show was really funny and I enjoyed the way the characters were presented. Plus its the first time we got the current voice of Velma and we even got a take of that version of Daphne in the "Happy Halloween, Scooby Doo", the movie that was done by the creator of Billy and Mandy.
Tfw two RU-vidrs that you're subbed to both do a Scooby-Doo video on Halloween. Seriously, I just finished watching PBG's reaction to the first live-action Scooby-Doo movie on his second channel, and as soon as it was over, the reccomended video that popped up on screen was this one! As a huge Scooby-Doo fan (so much so that I actually had a Scooby-Doo themed bedroom when I was little), I'm loving the Scooby representation from everyone this Halloween!
Velma is not a fuckimg scooby doo show its mindy kaling highjacking an ip to make herself feel good about her waning brand Like take mindy kaling out and itd be pretty solid for what its trying to be but she just drags it down
how was the Velma show even green lit like??? if you’re gonna make an adult Scooby Doo show….model it after what the 2002 movie was SUPPOSED to be before it was cut and changed to a PG rating.
Venture Bros. Also has two really good Scooby Doo episodes. Taking place in a world where all the old Johnny quest episodes were real, Venture Bros. Plays with the Scooby doo formula with the “Groovy Gang” a version of the Scooby gang where all the members of the Scooby gang are fictionalized versions of real criminals and serial killers from the 60s and 70s. For instance shaggy is Son of Sam and Scooby is the supposedly possessed talking dog that the real life killer claimed gave him instructions. Fred is now Ted Bundy, Daphne is Patty Hearst and Velma is Valerie Solanas, venture bros also plays with the idea of what would happen if the Scooby doo formula was injected into other shows, for instance a villain finds out the hard way what happens when you put on a rubber mask and attempt to scare a bodyguard that received combat training from what is essentially a cross between GI Joe and the CIA.
Oh my God, I had a DVD of "Shaggy and Scooby Doo get a clue" where it had a lot of episodes of it, I watched it so much I'm so happy to know the name now. Nostalgia overload. Also don't remember the style of the show looking that different from other scooby shows at all, wild.
The Scooby-Doo show is my favorite iteration of the franchise. I also really adore when it's just Scooby, Scrappy and Shaggy. I don't care for the Scooby-Doo project because I can't stand when the gang are mean to one another. Check out the Behind the Scenes series where the gang has sit down interviews.
Scooby Doo is one of my favorites, most definitely. I was alive when they introduced Scrappy, though I was just very young. I never had a problem with Scrappy. He didn't annoy me, but he was also just.... Whatever in the show. He could stay or go would've made no difference to me.
Scrappy could get a bit annoying in '79-'82, but I never disliked him. He became more likeable in '83-'88. Sad what they did to him in the 2002 live-action film (and other small appearances and references here and there since). The Scooby-Doo Project probably did the "Scrappy bashing" gag the best; it was also in 1999, so before it became popular.
I like to think that Shaggy and Fred made a deal where Shaggy would let Fred drive his van and do what he wants with it, Shaggy would get the right to design it and came up with The Mystery Machine as a way to piss Fred off but Fred unironically loves it because he’s Fred and Shaggy just went with it.
hands down the best thing to come from the “no gang” era of classic scooby doo was the ghoul school movie. that whole film had such an impact they referenced it in ok ko and got most of the og voice actresses to reprise their roles. rip russi taylor btw she was SUCH a real one
My favorite had to be the reruns of Ghoul School. Or whatever it was called, the one where Shaggy and Scooby were teachers for monsters kids or somethin? I think the villain was just like an eyeball? I'm just now realizing i remember very little about the show lol
Be cool Scooby Doo is unironically funny to me I'm ngl. Daphne was basically the most insane woman ever and all the gang had their own humorous parts of it. A pup named Scooby Doo is the one that I know the least about here but I can remember liking it when I was 5. And the Velma show can go to hell. There's my review of weird Scooby Doo stuff, hope y'all enjoyed (P.S, I haven't even watched the video, that's just my thoughts on these specific shows LMAO. Best Scooby Doo anything is Scooby Doo mystery incorporated)
I can definitely agree with your take on "Be Cool Scooby Doo". The show is worth checking out for Daphne alone - when she brought out the puppets, I had to pause, because I couldn't stop laughing ^^
My personal favorite Scooby Doo series is Thirteen Ghosts of Scooby Doo. As both a long time Scooby Doo fan and a “monster kid” it really gelled with me and now as an adult I get to be like “It’s got Vincent Price in it, hell yeah!”
I loved watching Shaggy & Scooby Doo get a clue! When they made copies of "Scooby Doo Where Are You" they used to add Get a clue on the disk as a special and I loved watching them!
I always felt that Get a Clue was more like Scooby Doo crossed with Venture Bros. than anything else. surface level, at least, the two series have got a fairly similar formula and a lot of analogous characters.
Billiam: season 2 might be good but i may get punished for holding my breathe. Just give us the hex girls movie. Velma season 2: look how they butchered our queens.
“He just doesn’t hit Shaggy very good for me… but neither do I” Billiam, I guarantee you S&SDGAC would’ve been a 10/10 if they had you voicing Shaggy instead😭
I, for one, just want the Ghoul School girls to come back. You never know you want something until they make a cameo in OK KO!, and you realize you have a monster-girl shaped hole in your heart. One that you've spent your entire adult life trying to fill. Also, let them acknowledge that Shaggy has racing-themed history with Dracula. Just bring back that whole era of failed pilot movie characters.
@@elchomper.1063 True but if they hate so much and still wanna watch it pirate it the company ain't gonna be getting money and you aren't supporting the actual release by doing that.
It's actually pointed out multiple times the mystery machine is Fred's he just let shaggy scoob and scrappy use it for a couple years when they were on their own adventure
Be Cool Scooby Doo really surprised me when I watched it for the first time a year or so ago. I was caught up in the discourse of "art style is bad therefore show is bad" when it first came out. Definitely a favorite iteration of the show for me. Meanwhile, I found Velma to be just okay. I tried to watch it with an open mind (as opposed to how I skipped Be Cool Scooby Doo) and it was just fine. I didn't finish it, because it wasn't an enjoyable watch for me. Hopefully we get a new series that is more of a quality similar to Mystery Incorporated.
The Scooby-Doo Show from 1976-1978 has always been my favorite incarnation. But I never realized until recently that the second season of Scooby-Doo, Where Are You only had eight episodes. Speaking of that, I’m 43 years old and the house used during the credits for that season _still_ creeps me out.
I really enjoy Be Cool Scooby-Doo. I didn't love the designs but I tried watching the show and it grew on me so fast and became one of my top 3. Original, A Pup Named Scooby-Doo and Be Cool.
I'm one of the few who was actually never put off by the designs. I went into the show excited (because it was a new Scooby show for kid me) and I've always been a fan of it to this day.
Honestly, the only reason I remember either Scooby Dum or Scooby Dee is because my cousin's dog was named Scooby Dee and he forced me to watch that episode like six times
I love Scooby Doo but there have definitely been some "versions" of it that I haven't cared for. I thought Be Cool Scooby Doo would be one of them but I'm actually glad to say I was wrong. I really like that it had it's own style and voice while still keeping the feel of Scooby Doo. They did it right.
So any point covering Scooby Apocalypse comic, which released at the same time as Be Cool, Scooby Doo...yet for some reason people found that comic to be more "try hard" than Be Cool, Scooby Doo. Velma, not sure how Riverdale managed to make it work as "tongue-in-cheek serious mystery" show (even writers of Riverdale stated that they were influenced by Twin Peaks). Also not sure if entire series would go Miracle Man since there is a hint about "Project Scooby" (like Scooby Doo being product is unethical secret science project, just like how Alan Moore's Miracleman portrayed the titular character along with his "adventure" being virtual reality).
Completely unlocked a core memory there with Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get a Clue. I watched every single episode of that show and had just completely forgotten it. But all of those clips just brought back all of those memories.
My favorite version of Scooby Doo is the 80s Saturday day morning cartoon: A PUP NAMED SCOOBY DOO. Set in a vague 1950s/1960s era, it starred kid versions of the cast and featured a more zany lighthearted tone complete with goofy running gags.
