That's why fat shaming is extremely important, if you see some fat lazy piece of sht you make sure you tell him or her to drop the fork and give you 10 right now on the spot
Dude at least 15 percent of Americans look like Charlie, probably 30 percent that order pizza that often. Delivery guy really shouldn’t have been that surprised
This alone is scarier than a lot of horror movies because you just know somewhere, someone is doing this. You might just personally know one. Or worse, you could even be, used to be or even become one yourself.
This describes slasher movies as well though, you know damn well that someone's torturing somebody, and you could be the one on the receiving end of that torture.
@@Piece-Of-TimeAn addiction is always, for the most part, a personal failure. Indeed, anyone could find themselves vulnerable and umable to cope, thus turning to pleasure - but the way you subsequently handle this unfair, unjust and quite frankly harrowing ordeal is only, and only, on you. I do not judge those who fall to addiction and stay addicted even for long periods of time; I absolutely do judge those who continue indulging themselves in spite of all the pain and suffering they inflict upon others. In other words, an unrepentant addict is a selfish coward unable to take anything but the easy way out.
This scene is even harder to watch when you know how someone eating from pure adiction and anxiety looks like, and you see how well Brendan Fraser acted that. You dont even stop to aprecciate the flavours of what you're eating, you may not even be tasting it, you're just opening your mouth as wide as you can to shove the biggest amount of food possible inside, and chewing fast so you can make room for more food the fastest way possible. And sometimes you will do things like putting ham and mayo on pizza, or chips on bread, or any other pointless food combination so maybe the weird variaty of flavours actually make you feel anything that distracts you from whats going in your head. It feels terrible, and it was painfully well shown in the movie.
This absolutely shook me bc ive done the same during hard times. Down to mixing random snacks with extra toppings / sauces. It got so bad once i ended up in the ER after liver and kidney problems.
I used this movie to keep my motivation when i was on my diet earlier this year. Started at 255lbs the dropped to 235 and stayed there for years, January began my diet and got down to 180lbs by September.
after a long time of being unhealthy im at 220-230lbs, and i have a chubby goblin torso i cant stand. Started trying to reverse it before it gets actually bad.
Great job! I was at 230,220lbs a couple months ago and now I'm at 193 give or take, I still have a ways to go but I feel so much better. I have so much more energy and it's much easier to breath I get to sleep better etc. It is kind of sad because I do kind of miss food that tastes really good. My favorite used to be pasta. I eat mainly eggs, sardines, greens, healthy stuff that tastes ok but not amazing. But the weird thing is I have found I don't actually need food anymore. I needed food as a kid, the joy it gave me helped me get through bad times and I spent many days after I ate looking forward to my next meal. When people were mean I could always look forward to food. I used to be very sad, sometimes i get that way but not as much. I still eat these sort of things every once in awhile but I know the cost of them. I also have a plan to where if I eat a rough meal I have that be a "rough meal" and not a "eat bad the whole day".... sometimes I do binge but not often. Just getting in a pattern is nice. I may not be the healthiest right now but I am a lot better and this is working for me right now. I hope to be 190lbs by the end of the month. But either way we will see what happens. Just gotta eat good and avoid bread and empty calories. And also need to plan put my meals ahead of time when I have energy... if I am trying to find something to eat when I am hungry I will already struggle. So I have lots of sardines, eggs, and protein bars at home for me to make better choices. And I don't snack.
You don't have to specifically be a binge-eater in order to connect deeply with this scene. There are millions of Charlies in the world, consuming and abusing something or other - food, alcohol, drugs, sex - desperate to medicate feelings they can't cope with. There is not a single sign in this scene that Charlie is enjoying what he is doing - props to Fraser's great acting. He's frantic, desperate - latching onto the food like it's his only hope of ever feeling stable again. This isn't a love for food - it's a crippling emotional dependence on it. What fitting music for the situation, too - again, not a shred of joy in it. It's strange and terrifying - a descent into madness.
That's why this movie means a lot to me. Because it treats binge eating with the same depth as drug addiction or alcoholism or self harm. Most movies or shows don't do that. It's just always "Haha look at the fat guy" instead of seeing the true suffering behind the person.
More like a descent into depression. Wouldn't necessarily say madness being as he's not going mad or crazy. He's just filled with self loathing and hatred, mixed with depression leading to a desire to self-harm. I do this with alcohol but I get joy from it. I had someone ask me once if I was OK, assuming I was depressed because I drink so much. I said why do I have to be depressed or upset to drink? I genuinely enjoy the feeling of being inebriated. Maybe my endorphins burned out long ago, but unless I'm buzzed, I can't really enjoy anything. Went to a carnival one time and after I got off one of the rides I thought, that was fun I guess. Had a few beers, rode another one, and I was lit. I was like "fuck yea let's do that shit again".
@@Mathiasvenegasjuarez1 I agree, to be honest, there really should be more movies like this that show the harsh reality of mental illnesses. Like binge eating or some other form of addiction?
As someone who has suffered from crippling OCD for most of my life, this scene hits hard. His eating is a compulsion. He doesn't eat for pleasure. It's a coping mechanism. All he feels is pain and hopelessness.
@@godzillaaa740 Stay strong man. I never dreamed that I could beat my OCD after living with it for the first 25 years of my life, but now I'm living a full life with a great career, big home, and beautiful girlfriend. What makes OCD difficult to beat is that it is an anxiety disorder. Your obsessions are fueled by fear and your rituals only add more fuel to that fear. The only way to beat OCD is with exposure therapy. That's how I finally beat my OCD when I was 25 years old. The way to stop being afraid is to face your fears until they aren't scary anymore. If OCD makes you wash your hands over and over again, then go a whole day without washing them at all. It might not be sanitary, but that's the whole point. If you're afraid of germs, then the only true cure is to get your hands dirty and not wash them. The first few times you do that it will terrify you. But over time you'll notice that it bothers you less and less. And eventually it won't bother you at all. The process is slow and painful, but it is the only way to freedom.
Currently in recovery myself. My entire adult life has been controlled by severe OCD. I’m 26 now, and I have been recovering with my husky. I’ve been on all the meds imaginable, and none of them helped. I’d argue they made it worse. About a year and a half ago, I had a few spiritual experiences with mushrooms. These experiences had begun my recovery. They were not a cure, but a very important tool. Soon after the experiences, I rescued my husky. I’m now about to get my drivers license, just obtained my HiSet diploma, and just got accepted into community college. I haven’t drank alcohol in well over a year. I developed a bad drinking problem due to OCD. I will get my two year degree, and then will enroll into Purdue for my bachelor degree. You’re right when you say exposure therapy is the only way. Medications have their place, but they’re overprescribed, and a lot of the time they cause more negative effects than positive ones. It all starts with the person. They have to want freedom, and they have to fight hard for it. No medication on the planet will make you well if you aren’t ready to be well. At some point, you have to be so sick of being sick, that there’s no other option other than recovery. I had become terrified of never being well again. I realized that I have the power to take my life back. Life is all about choices. Everyday we’re presented with opportunities for growth. We can choose to take them or we can choose to stay the same. Staying the same was a more terrifying thought than any torturous thought that OCD had ever made me conceive of. I’m done wasting days. Today I’m not on any medications other than Aptiom, which is an anticonvulsant. My OCD was so severe, that due to the constant state of stress and anxiety I was in, I began to have seizures at around 19. I’m not epileptic. My seizures were stress induced. One day I feel I’ll be able to get off of Aptiom as well. But one step at a time. I’ve been seizure free for over two years now. Knock on wood. I’m glad I saw your comment, and I wish nothing but the best for you, and for the young man above in the comments. Also, to anyone else who sees this who needs to see it. While there’s breath, there’s hope.
As someone who has struggled with binge eating, this scene hits way too close to home. I'm ashamed to admit this, but people don't realize that this can be exactly what binge eating looks like. I've had these phases too, stuffing anything and everything I could find down my throat in the most unusual combination just for the sake of stuffing down all these feelings I was feeling. And fuck, does this scene make me realize that...I don't ever want to go back to this time and I will never let myself end up in a spot like this ever again. Beautiful depiction, that man damn well deserved that oscar.
I feel you 100%. I envy people who have a relatively healthy relationship with food. Once it becomes unhealthy, you will struggle for the rest of your life, even if you “get better.” It unfortunately always has the possibility of coming back. What’s sad about binge eating disorders and food addiction is that people NEED food to survive unlike other addictions/substances. It’s truly a scary and hopeless feeling and one just simply can’t truly understand until they’ve been through it.
I felt anxiety from many movies, but this scene in this movie gave me such a raw form of new anxiety I've never felt. I felt so raw and emotionally invested in this scene, such an amazing movie
This scene broke my heart. I was once in this exact situation. The only difference was that alcohol was my choice of tool to destroy myself. But this is how exactly it is. You keep binging until you feel numb. You try to stay in that place where the hurt is not there so you keep consuming and consuming, until your body gives up. After puking my gutts out, later on I would just sob and really hate myself for being defeated. I would sometimes even hit myself. Exercise, self-love and focusing on work really helped me a lot. I also dedicated myself to serving a purpose greater than myself. That gave me a reason to not destroy myself. Although the temptation is always there though. The possibility of relapsing is something I need to fight everyday, since I am dealing with PTSD.
It's amazing how they make the eating so sad. How it shows you someone's eating being a comfort but also the hate in his eyes the self loathing because he can't stop.
I work in a hospital as a nursing aide and nursing student. We had this over 600lb woman on our unit who was there for complications of cellulitis. She also said she wanted to get gastric bypass surgery. The plan was to have her lose weight, treat her infection, and eventually proceed to the surgery. This woman would order very large meals from varied fast food restaraunts. These meals were enough to feed a party of 10 people. We're talking 10 burgers, 10 fries, 5 large drinks all in one meal. Sometimes she would order pizza. In one sitting, she ate 5 large pizzas on her own. She ended up gaining an additional 100lb in her 3 month stay. She accused us for her weight gain and said we should have stopped her. There was nothing we could do about it. We told her not to be eating that way, but we can't stop someone when they have the right to eat whatever they want. This movie reminds me of that.
Some people just can’t be helped. A lot of these people have other mental disorders like narcissism. They like to weaponize pity so you always feel bad for them. Nothing is ever their fault though.
With my 120kg/260 pounds, I cannot imagine eating more then one large pizza and I'm an eater. 5 large pizzas? Five? Are you fucking serious? How can you even put that amount in you stomach? I'm going through crisis right now and it feels good for a few minutes when I eat, but five pizzas? That's an attempt to make a suicide for fuck sake.
I feel his pain, as an alcoholic the scene where the delivery guy sees him hit so hard. One time i ordered my usual liquor. Order on skip the dishes 750 ml of vodka and a bottle of coke. This time the delivery guys said “ i dont need to see your id, i see you everyday” the pain in knowing others could see that i was slowly killing myself was too much to bear. I remember having a complete self destructive breakdown like in this scene afterwards too. Ive never seen any other story portray addiction snd self destruction so accurately.
Yeah, I was soon known as the "black velvet girl" at the abc store near my house and they stopped carding me even though I just turned 21. I changed abc stores after i found out. Years later I finally kicked it because it just made me miserable and sick. Now years later I can't even smell alcohol without getting nauseous.
I can see why people find this particular scene terrifying because it can really happen to any of us. It's terrifying because its still happening to people out there, and there's nothing we can do to help. Self destruction, is probably our greatest fear, even scarier than death.
we have all been there at some point.. just one moment away from being absolutely reckless.. It terrifies me to think what if someday I just lose control
@@satsumamoon that’s what makes it terrifying. People choose to do these horrible things to themselves (ex. Drugs, Alcohol, Smoking, Overeating, etc.) even when they know it’s hurting them. Their friends and family can only watch them descend further into self-destruction
This movie made such an impact. This was perfectly depicted on how a man feels when he lacks control of everything around him, and the one thing he can control is what goes down his throat. Heart breaking
I use to be in Charlie’s shoes with my food addiction (no i was not super obese) until I saw this movie and ever since the start of 2023, I improved my diet and worked out so much more
As someone who has never had a proper binging episode, but got pretty darn close to one by eating their feelings, this was quite literally terrifying to watch.
If you haven't seen this movie yet, it's an absolute must-watch. No film has ever impacted me this deeply. Everything about it was exceptional-the script, directing, acting, music and so on. Truly unbelievable.
As a recovering addict and alcoholic who struggled to get clean and sober for 20 years. It is the most horrible feeling to keep doing something you know will kill you but can’t stop. The regret hangover afterwards is the worst!
This scene alone was an effective depiction of binge eating, addiction, and major depression, and I've dealt with all three in recent years. I do get why this movie got polarizing reviews, but this is one of those movies that I constantly think about because of the way this stuff is all too real.
I legitimately teared up watching this. Something about seeing Charlie destroy himself so aggressively after hitting his lowest low in the entire movie really hurts. Every character's breakdown (and they all had a breakdown at some point) felt realistic in a difficult-to-watch way, but this one was definitely the most painful
I have both binge eating disorder and anorexia. Whenever I get the urge to binge, I just take some plain popcorn, cucumbers, carrots, or blueberries. They are low calorie, so you can eat quite an abundance of them without feeling like you just devoured a baby mule.
@@ronburgundy3172 Another tip I find useful with BED, is heating up a cup of water, and pairing it with every meal. This will allow you to slow down when eating, since it requires you to take slow sips, as to not burn your mouth. Sometimes I even have a cup of tea with meals. A simple warm drink of sorts has saved me multiple times from taking a huge trip to the fridge.
Not gonna lie… I bought a bunch of snacks to go see the movie in theaters. When this part came… I immediately felt so disgusted to even eat anymore. I ate nothing for the rest of the night due to how shocking and traumatizing this scene was. I really hope all that food was fake. Congrats to Brendan for such a heart wrenching yet horrifyingly realistic performance.
I just feel this like sense of sadness just watching. Almost as if so many people go through this and can’t pull themselves out. Always be nice to people including those that are overweight.
I really think the score is what sets this scene. It's chaotic, atonal, and uncomfortable, and this reflects Charlie's escalating breakdown as he tries to eat his way out of his despair.
Addiction. Desperately trying not to feel emotional pain. Knowing the numbness doesn’t last long. The panic begins. Frantically shoveling an shoving as much as you can, hoping you don’t get too full too fast, wanting it to last but wanting it be over with.
this scene was absolutely heartbreaking. i had snacks to see the whale but i instantly got put off at this scene. i still struggle with just eating when im bored or to destruct myself from my feelings about everything. it’s truly, truly consuming and just overall so horrible
This scene got to me as almost 2 years ago I was binge eating my feelings away like in this clip I was 270 pounds, eating 2 large pizzas every day from a little caesars close to me because I was broke working a dead end job, stressing about college and lonely. I was destroying myself and didn't care about my wellbeing because I didn't feel it was worth anything to care about. This was before I was admitted to the hospital on account of having covid and it triggering kitoacidosis in my body me being a diabetic, I couldn't eat without my body rejecting it, I could barely breathe let alone walk anywhere and was constantly tired to the point I slept for 16 hours at a time. During my time at the hospital I lost 100 pounds and found new reasons to live and take care of myself. To create content for the world, to make my current and future family proud of me, and to make myself the best version of myself mentally and physically. That being said to anyone reading this please take care of yourself and know you have purpose to be healthy.
Bro I understand how you feel, I failed college my life was in shambles my gf cheated on me and never told me and then broke up with me. Saw my dogs die and even then finding out my mom had cancer. Yeah I lost all hope and started eating away my feelings. Then I realized I can turn my life around and do my best. Everyday now I workout, jog and walk drink plenty of water and looking for work usually. I'm very happy currently but I hope you're happy as well. Stay strong
My friends and I were at an all you can eat Chinese buffet. Sitting across from us was a young man in his mid twenties who was morbidly obese and eating huge plates of food. We watched him and we all lost our appetites and left. We felt bad for the guy.
This brings me back to how I used to cope in my abusive relationship with my ex. I gained a whopping 35lbs in five years. I don’t miss that time in my life and I don’t wish this on anybody.
This scene hit so close to home. As a child I never had my parents love or support . Everyone judged me & told me I was worthless basically. I always depended on others for my happiness. I didn’t feel capable of making myself happy. I used to be terrified of being alone. Being alone meant facing my emotions and feeling like shit. When I was in college, I lived in an apartment with three roommates and whenever they would go back home for the weekend and I would stay alone in the apartment, I would binge eat. I would eat anything I could find to the point where I would throw up because of how full I was. Other times I would force myself to vomit because of the guilt I felt afterwards. I didn’t know I was capable of finding happiness within myself so I always depended on others & masked it with food. Now I am learning how to love myself and being alone. This depicts such a reality. I gained 40 pounds and I haven’t been able to return to my baseline because I still struggle with food. I hope one day I can view food as a normal person does.
@@custardcat5185 Still working on it. Im still binge eating but its not as bad as before. I know one day ill be able to have a good relationship with food.
This scene isn't so much about eating specifically as it is about how we deal with stress. How do we react to stress? Pressure? Anxiety? This movie helped me realized the scariest thing in life isn't some ghost or monster in the corner of our room. This scene depicts moments when we're incapable of handling stress, and that has to be the scariest shit ever. Our reactions to intolerable strain will more likely kill us sooner than any shark in the water, or airplane malfunction, or shadow in the corner. Sure, at face value, it's a man binge eating. Although I believe it's a beautifully haunting allegory of the way we deal with tension, whether it be eating, not eating, smoking, drugs, burning bridges, shutting ourselves in, drinking... et frigg'n cetera. This scene is just too real to be afraid of a boogeyman.
After becoming sober from alcohol after a DUI, this is what happened a couple times after the first few weeks of bad cravings as I didnt know what the hell to do. The gym and my chiropractors saved my life. I'm a skinny guy, but this scene hit me in the face really hard. I felt like I was looking in the mirror.
As someone who has struggled with binge eating disorder, this is spot on. I remember eating pies, cupcakes, and dorritos. I'd keep eating even after I was full, I just wanted to continue eating. I'm doing better now.
This hits closer to home with my binge eating disorder the amount of pain I felt in my abdomen after so much food. It was also because I would eat hardly anything for a week then binge.
I hope things are better for you now I suffered from a lot of mental health leaving the military but now on the other side of the fence enjoying life. It takes work daily to overcome obstacles in the mind but there is calmness after the storm.
Genuinely a heartbreaking scene. It’s painful to watch someone wither away physically and mentally by their own hand with no signs of help at their disposal. How this scene is captured is perfect. The music, the colors, the pain yet inn ability to stop. What sucks abt this scene is that he doesn’t find pleasure or any sort of catharsis through his addiction. He just does it in a desperate search of alleviation from the crippling pain he’s feeling. Pizza, sandwiches, jam, any absurdity that comes to mind as long as it soothes him. But none of it does and it drives him crazy. The sad truth is that we all have a little bit of Charlie in us. We all have issues we try to cover up with things, activities, or even people. We run from what torments us in our heads whether that be insecurities, fears, loneliness, depression, stress, despair, etc. To be liberated from this is to truly live. The tragedy of this is that many people aren’t lucky enough to truly live a life they wake up excited to embark on. They die on a day to day basis hoping that when they go to bed their time will come and the crippling pain will all finally be over.
If somebody was asking, how it is to have binge eating disorder or bulimia, this is how it looks like. Life with those disorders is terrible exactly like that. This scene made me cry because it´s heartbreaking to see someone else doing it as well.
Movies about humans with anxiety/feelings of losing hope/stress or anything else are the scariest movies to me. Because they're the ones that so many people can relate/find a connection to.
Damn. I felt this scene in the theater. Food addiction makes you go crazy once you start eating good food. It's exciting in your head, but this scene portrays the reality of it very well.
Some people self sabotage with food, others with alcohol, drugs, sex, prescription pills, our phones, steroids, etc. we all have our vices/ addictions. If only we could truly stop.
Before my gastric surgery, i did have my binge moments. But they were thankfully never this out of control. Im so grateful i was fortunate enough to reach out for help.
It's both touching and heartbreaking to see the amount of comments here from people coming forward with their addictions and saying how honestly this scene captures it. I thought about my own gambling addiction (a year and a half sober now) and how I would spiral for hours and hours and it would be a toxic rush of dopamine until the sky got dark and I'd end the day feeling sick and empty.
I know this feeling. Doesn’t matter how cohesive it is or whether or not there’s wayyy to much of something (cheese, icing, dressing) on top of it. It tastes good enough to numb you, that’s all that matters. As long as it’s *there* in front of you.
This makes me want to cry. I know a few people who live like this and I love them so so so so much and I don’t know how to help them when they’re making choices like this. When they’re choking because they can’t shove enough food in their mouth because they’re so hungry and so lonely and so upset with themselves that they can’t control it and then an hour or two later they’re sobbing their eyes out out of shame and disgust and disappointment in themselves and just feel like a lost cause stuck in a viscous cycle that’s killing them. My mom has had issues with binge eating my whole life and she raised me and my sisters very healthy despite her own addiction and I ended up dealing with anorexia out of fear of ending up like that and it put me in the hospital and my mom stayed with me the whole time and tried not to cry but she felt so responsible for me ending up there and she kept telling doctors that it was her fault and that shattered my heart. My heart absolutely breaks for people struggling with addictions like this. I see this and I see drug addicts the same, they’re all going to die unless they find the strength in themselves or someone is willing to sacrifice themself to help them and get them the care they need. It’s such a cruel life to live. I wish I could do something, anything to help.
This story has a lot of similarities to Requiem for a Dream, Aronofskys other film, it’s absolutely horrifying to watch a person self destruct like that. I don’t even think he stood up at the end, I think it was just his dying dream
It's one of the few times where i've been genuinely horrified by something. it's so visceral you can't stop looking at it. Sure, spooked by jumpscares, disturbed by analog horror, but looking at this makes me feel sick. There's something real about it. As a person who's gone through rage before, it's easy to suddenly give up everything to satisfy your anger. So to see something like this hits hard where it hurts.
People call this scene over the top or stupid. But if you have any sort of depression resulting in shoving endless food in your mouth just to feel bit better, you know well this was on spot.
bro this scene real as hell. as i binge eater that trying to improving life this movie is that movie is top at quality but not like a exaggereated acting but on the spot as hell.
The grimness of this scene is so accurate, I think that’s the reason why it’s so hard to watch. It’s so real! The sound effects of the food when he eats it, what you yourself hear when you actually eat. Also the lighting of the scene makes it feel like your in some shitty apartment with some nicotine covered light bulbs. The director really did an outstanding job, he puts you in the moment with him. I need to watch this whole movie.
This is the first time I have ever even seen or thought of eating two slices of pizza at once. That alone was enough to throw me off in discomfort, well done.
This scene is so Disturbing and Terrifing to me. Not the fact that Charlie is overweight, but that his life is so down that he feels like eating is the only way for him to feel worth. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.
