The Winners & Losers of Ranged DPS in The War Within 

Winners 00:15 Arcane Mage 02:31 Fire Mage 04:19 Marksman Hunter 06:17 Demonology Warlock Losers 07:53 Balance Druid 10:06 Beastmaster Hunter

Mages continue being main characters of WoW

Timestamps my dude

Shadow Priest : Am I a joke to you?

Glad to see arcane getting a ton of love. I hope it stays strong as more tuning comes. Looks pretty fun to play from what I’ve seen on the beta.

Blizz can make bm hunters a ‘vehicle’ test subject: abilities/cooldowns to build charges to spend on a ‘legendary’ pet summon, a vehicle mechanic where the hunter mount a pet vehicle that does special attacks.

Hey what a great video! What is your weakaura for nameplates tho ? I know it but can't find it anymore!

Make BM hunters summon Epicus Maximus, the shark with a lazer and 2 rockets that has a dinosaur on top that carries an undead. An actual real NPC by the way, not making it up.

What addon are you using for nameplates, or it just a cutlstomized plater?

Keep those videos coming! Greatly enjoying them, got yourself a new sub!

Hearing nothing on Ele shams after the changes. Have any thoughts on that?

Great video as always! I had a feeling that we'd see mage in the video but good lord Diabolist demo lock has probably some of the sickest visuals in the game as it stands right now! Imagine if we see the same pet treatment for a spec like BM hunter, like being able to summon animals of different sorts like a zoo keeper kind of style and not only from our stables, see that could be amazing!

Hunter MM, Hunter BM, Fire mage or Arcane mage for M+ in TWW ( which is better?? ) and for raid S1 ?

Gutted about boomkin.. will still main it and hope for changes

Feel the same about arcane. It's such a fast paced, proc machine at the moment

friendly suggestion: please add timestamps to your videos

I remember when the beta first started everyone was saying Voidweaver was god tier. Did they nerf it/kill it off or something or is everything else just better?

I was going to level a Warlock and unholy DK, then i'll chose who is going to be my main. However after seeing arcane mage i might level one up as well

Does anyone know how to get their UI to look like that? Looks great with so little clutter

Agreed about balance druid changes. They always do our stuff too early every expansion (often as a display at blizzcon and such), do it wrong, then forget us, leaving us cobbled together with wonky gameplay. We keep playing bc we love the fantasy of it all but... sigh.

dang and here I was thinking about maining Boomkin going into the War Within ... lol may have to rethink this

On one hand you love the CDR in the MM hero trees, on the other hand you don't like barbed shot resets from Dark Ranger. You are aware that casting barbed shot reduces the CD of Beastial Wrath?

You missed one, what about the Evokers?

as a former boomkin, it is sad to see the state it is in now. on the plus side, bear is fun!

I've been maining Druid for DF and i'm super depressed with the lack of changes for guardian and balance, man it feels bad. Guardian tree hasn't been touched as far as i'm aware, and the alune hero talents don't even add any new animations with like the arcane thrash. and balance is you know... in the dirt.

Everyone likes the dark brooding classes like warlock and such but ... totally forgot elemental shaman existed apparently ...

Am I the only one who think Arcane's arcane orbs look super lame?

It’s about pve only?

They should have made pack leader into something to do with spirit beasts.

How hard is arcane to play now?

Lets GO!

Are u doing a melee one aswell?

You left out voidweaver SP what happened lol I thought you were in love with it? Anyway thanks for the content as always you're a legend

Mage looks fun! Especially a mobile arcane spec!

Soooooo what about the specs that you didn't cover? How are these specs the winners and losers of TWW but you only talked about a handful of specs?

Brother, I’m so sad about moonkin lol - it’s the first time ever where I’m not even planning to play it as an alt let alone a main, sad times

Having mained holy priest forever & never played boomkin I quite like it, I’ve decided to main Druid for TWW if boomie doesn’t work out resto & moon bear are fun, cat I’m not really interested in. I think it’s a good fit for me since I’ll have to be casual for TWW.

For the first time ever I might main mage, arcane looks stunning this xpac

Arcane, Fire and Frost it's amazing, mage is pure art. Demonology look nice, but I miss 5 shards with de big demon, feels super slow, IDK.

Current BM main here atm, and seriously looking at either Ret or WW for TWW...

Such a banger. Shame i cant decide what to play. You Malaysian coconut infused noodles with a sprinkle of saffron

Seriously, BM and Survival needs to swap, BM needs to be a melee class with pet summoning as a damage, this can allow BM to also become a tank class. makes the class lore friendly too! And make survival range DPS again, and deal damage with traps, DOTs and firebombs, poison etc. It is also possible to play as a support class, where they can throw out healing darts or AOE heals here and there and then can shoot enraging shots to increase haste to 1 person, just like power infusion for priest.

For fiest time since vanklla alpha im maining lock

I am sad about BM. I main'd it in S1 of DF - and its just so casual to play it makes it just fun to hop around and DPS. Its just fun. I hope they improve it. Well, on to Resto/Ele in TWW. I will mostly healing in S1 of TWW.

BM needs better animations. Beasts should summon from off camera, pounce in from above, or have some kind of summoning animation similar to Warlock. Maybe a nature themed portal or something. Fading in out of thin air is terrible. Cobra Strike looks dated and odd. Barbed Shot is so lackluster. Make it cause a big bleed animation when it lands. Or, you could drop summoning extra temporary pets entirely, and focus on making your one/two pets become massive unstoppable looking beasts.

Looking at Demonology Warlock summoning all kinds of cool demons feel so cool. Meanwhile, Druid's Keeper of the Grove is using treants that are introduced back in Burning Crusade. What a joke.

Wait, What about priest?

after attempting to read some of the comments on this video i now understand why wow needs lfr

New expansion looks fun

What about for BM hunters... How about they give us a good large set of "Pets" we can tame and then customize them and make them unique and larger pets instead of them shrinking so drastically

what ever is op now will be nerfed after the world first race and what ever is bad will be buffed so do you want to play something thats going to get nerfed hard or big time buffed anyone else having problems deciding on what to play besides me?

Where ele shaman 🤔🥲

Its weird that bm hunter is one of the least visually appeasing specs and thrn you have demonology that is one of the most satisfying. Both pet based classes and so far apart on the spectrum

MM Hunter bro! 🤤

But MM didn’t get their current tier set made into a talent is a major L

Shadow priest?

Fire was amazing and it went from top DPS to dumpster tier with one nerf.. they'll do the same to arcane. Mage might not be great on release :

BM has Cobra shot, it looks terrible and has looked terrible since it was introduced, it looks like a green crayon that weaves (ridiculously) through the air to the target and it annoys the hell out of me so much i haven't played BM ever since. I spent the entire history of the game up to that point maining BM Hunter but Cobra shot bothers me so much i had to move all my Hunters to MM. Good to see MM is in a better space than it was for quite awhile and i'm looking forward to playing it in TWW.

Great take. I agreeee with all of it xD Except hunters, but thats just cause i have no idea what im talking about. Never played hunter Keep making great content!

So skipping ele sham huh?

This video got Arcane nerfed!

Ele sham? :'(

You have really good suggestions. But an issue I see is that you're not considering pvp. Even though pvp isn't as popular as pve, they will still balance for pvp as well. You can't fire multiple orbital beams after one another in pvp, that'd be broken af for druid, as an example.

Elemental Shaman can easily be one of those winners after rework . Great video though , keep it up

Well, was a soft "ranged dps" view point. Since you only talked about 6 ranged classes, i guess that was because you only focused your experiences on those 6. Interesting point of view ( i still find BM hunter fun 😂 ).

my BM omg so sad

Destro and aff are more fun and better than demo

im really sad because balance druid has been cast to the wayside again. They say they work on us first because we're "complicated" but they end up doing a mediocre job and be like "ok that's good enough, let's move on to the other specs" LAZY! It's bland and boring and WEAK!

Aff terrible because of rapture

bald xdd

"I tested every ranged dps on the beta" Well that was a lie

Delete the arcane segment please, i don't want others to find out

All druid specs suck. i'll say it again though. let boomkins proc spawn little spectral moonkin dudes (instead of trees) like demo imps that fire moonfires. Who doesnt want an army of little moonkins running around after them

half of the ranged dps are not here

Not a single melee on the list? I guess its really down bad in The War Within LOL! Even though Blizzard has forgotten about melee its nice that VesperalTV hasn't forgotten about us casuals, really loved seeing the abilities on the screen so thankyou for doing that! Super nice touch!